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Birth Control Is A ‘Pesticide’ That Will Make Women ‘Like Men'

thinkprogress.org — Yesterday on Fox News, Leslee Unruh, president of the National Abstinence Clearinghouse, argued that the new birth control pill is a “pesticide” that will make women “like men.” She called it an “attack on children and families,” ending the segment with shouts of, “I want more babies. More babies. We love babies.”

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  • Insightful, on 10/11/2007, -7/+205Why do we even reason with these crazy folks?

    Mary Carr should've just said, "Woman - listen to me - are you friggin' crazy?" and then turned around to Cavuto and ask why he invited a nut on the show if he wanted a serious conversation.
  • OneHine, on 10/11/2007, -6/+194@Insightful

    That's precisely the problem. Instead of being able to discuss things rationally, society is forced to accommodate completely insane views simply because those who hold these insane views shout so loudly. Instead of being able to look at subtle points and valid data, these nuts drown out informed discourse with a constant barrage of one-liners and repetitious talking points. And it's nearly impossible to simply respond once to these talking points because they don't care how often or how obviously their claims are disproved, they just keep on repeating them and their followers just eat it up.

    For them, it's not about coming to conclusions rationally, it's about preaching the party line.
  • Slovenian6474, on 10/11/2007, -6/+143"argued that this pill a “pesticide” that will make women “like men.”"

    So...it makes them grow a penis?
  • inactive, on 10/11/2007, -12/+139Anyone who does not believe we already have WAY too many monkeys on this planet should go visit a country where they are starving to death on a regular basis.

    Mother Theresa did more damage than possibly any other person in history. She went to the poorest parts of the world and told them that birth control was a sin.

    Wow.
  • revenge7, on 10/11/2007, -3/+125"Let's make babies!"
    "500 of them!"
    "Babies everywhere!"
  • inactive, on 10/11/2007, -3/+118She should just come out and say what she means. She wants more WHITE CHRISTIAN babies.
  • DeathtotheSwiss, on 10/11/2007, -2/+113Remember folks, AIDS might be pretty bad in Africa, but the real threat is of course condoms.
  • Junkyarddawg, on 10/11/2007, -2/+89She loves babies. She just doesn't like sex. Hence - abstinence.
  • Detritus, on 10/11/2007, -8/+92The only thing more frightening than this insanity in the name of being "Fair and Balanced" is the Snorg Tee girl's over-bite. Just because there are two sides to every story doesn't mean that they both deserve fair representation. If a Flat Earth guy and a Scientist have opposing views we can look at their merits, but when the Flat Earth guy doesn't have any that doesn't mean we need to just give them air time to say crazy ***** because that is somehow "Balanced".

  • helinism, on 10/11/2007, -3/+83'Planned Parenthood and NARAL have been out there trying to control women for many years... We need to celebrate our fertility'.

    Well I can celebrate my femininity whilst suppressing my fertility and have a damned good time! Which to me seems more about being in control as opposed to being controlled.
  • InfiniteNothing, on 10/11/2007, -13/+86She says that as if women becoming more like men is a bad thing. Maybe they'll quit nagging and start putting out more.
  • nblsavage, on 10/11/2007, -1/+65I always find it very amusing that the pro-life/anti-birth control zealots are all about people having babies, but pretty much don't give a ***** about what happens to the children after they are born.
  • VIrus9, on 10/11/2007, -2/+65Are you kidding? These people should be the last ones allowed to breed!
  • The_Wallbanger, on 10/11/2007, -2/+62She loves babies, America needs MORE babies -- Hence, abstinence-only education programs!
  • Wonkanobi, on 10/11/2007, -2/+61Yeah! Let's go back to the days where we truly "celebrate our fertility" and all women are merely baby-making machines. Now get back in the kitchen barefoot and make me a pie while your vagina remains a clown-car of reproduction in obedience of God's will!
  • OneHine, on 10/11/2007, -0/+55The darkly hilarious thing is that for years fundamentalists have been whining that organizations like Planned Parenthood supposedly remove control from women, turning them into wild, immoral beasts because they are somehow "free of consequences". It seems that fundamentalists can't even get their accusations straight, but just make whatever dishonest accusation that paints their opponents the worst.
  • usrlocalbin, on 10/11/2007, -6/+59When I saw the headline......I thought to my self 'thats some silly ***** to say'.

    I watched the video......I thought to my self 'WHAT THE ***** IS WRONG WITH THAT LADY?!'

    Can we get rid of Fox News for Christmas this year? Please? And the people who watch it?
  • shadus, on 10/11/2007, -1/+53@helinism,
    Very true. There is a sect of people in society who aren't satisfied with having control over their own bodies but want to control what other people can do with their bodies too. It's a disease of the mind when you're so insecure that you can't accept someone else's right to make their own choices regardless of whether or not you agree with those choices.

    I'm all for women having full control of their reproductive functions and I'm all for men having full control of their reproductive functions. If people agree to have children that's great, but it's unfair for either sex to have that forced upon them by a less than truthful member of the opposite sex or through force.
  • dysfunct, on 10/11/2007, -5/+57Woah woah woah.... someone f*cked her?
  • naevity, on 10/11/2007, -1/+51This woman is an absolute nut. From: http://www.plannedparenthood.org/news-articles-press/politics-policy-issues/abortion-access/leslee-unruh-6248.htm

    "Unruh had an abortion when she was in her early 20s, an experience she has said left her with feelings of extreme guilt. "
    "In 1987, Unruh was investigated by authorities after complaints surfaced that she had offered money to young women to carry their pregnancies to term and put their babies up for adoption."

  • EntropyMan, on 10/11/2007, -3/+48It's amusing to see the religious right turn itself into a klein bottle over the issue of non-abortive contraception.

    Do we want less abortion? Do we less teen sex? We can't decide. So we'll attack contraception and those who promote it and we'll also make kids so scared they won't have sex (as if). MORE BABIES. WE WANT MORE BABIES.

    If they were being honest, they'd admit that the ONLY thing they're opposed to is premarital sex, oh, and gay sex, which they will only allow, to the extent they do, to be pre-marital.

  • EntropyMan, on 10/11/2007, -1/+45Especially if those babies are poor, non-white, or non-Christian.
  • inactive, on 10/11/2007, -5/+47Am I the only one who thought "Fatal Attraction" when she started freaking out?
  • raitchison, on 10/11/2007, -1/+40The truly sad and frightening thing is that people like her ARE having more babies, the "breeders" are popping out kids at a ridiculous rate while the birth rate among normal people is declining. Eventually the crazies will outnumber us.
  • MammasMilk, on 10/11/2007, -2/+39I'm gonna have lots of babies.... I LOVE babies... I'm gonna make lots and LOTS OF BABIES!!!!!!

    Then I'll give them growth hormones to accelerate their growth rate, train them to be ninja assassins, and send them out to cut down crazy people like the baby lady.

    Yessssss, sooooon my precious babies

    sooooooooooon
  • mrgreen4242, on 10/11/2007, -1/+36Not anymore - though they probably used to. King Bush has an official abstinence only education policy that's failed miserably. The government needs to stop funding all of them, though. It's only fair. I think this woman is completely crazy, but she's entitled to her belief. I'd personally love to see Planned Parenthood get a billion dollars a year from the government, but there are taxpayers out there (lots of them) that disagree, so it's really only fair if we just don't give any of them any money, and then cut taxes so we can give the money to who ever we want.

    Better yet would be a national health care system that would let people make their own choices with the help of a doctor of their choice (someone who feels the same way they do) about birth control, abortions, etc. Ah well.
  • Cerialthriller, on 10/11/2007, -0/+34whats next, trying to make laws that require women to have babies? I mean *****, me and my wife don't want kids, so we arent supposed to have sex? GTFO fundies.
  • PrettyMuchBryce, on 10/11/2007, -2/+35America needs MORE sex -- Especially digg users.
  • LessThan3, on 10/11/2007, -1/+34"and her Abstinence Clearinghouse receives funding from the federal government"

    Shouldn't that be kind of illegal? Well, I guess maybe she isn't using religion as a reason for abstinence.

    Does any general "sex ed/pro-contraceptive" group get government funding to be taught in schools?
  • j4200, on 10/11/2007, -1/+34Her argument about women having fertility is laughable. Apparantly Men aren't part of the baby making process either...

    Wait.. aren't we the ones that do the fertilizing in the first place? ZING
  • JohnnyXmas, on 10/11/2007, -2/+34Well, yeah. They're a choking hazard for small children. Can small children choke on the HIV virus? No. Bottom line - condoms are more dangerous than AIDS.

    Why doesn't Fox put ME on?
  • sandbird, on 10/11/2007, -2/+33"More babies?" Lady, if any of them are going to grow up to be like you, then we certainly don't need more babies.
  • echinda, on 10/11/2007, -0/+27@jesusfreak

    Do you have any kids? I have two daughters and my oldest is ten. I hope against hope that she won't be sexually active at 13 but if she is, or even looks like she might be, she goes on the pill. I would far rather put my trust in the FDA than in my daughter's ability to ensure that a guy wears a condom. Maybe there is some rare outside 0.001% chance that some medical issue arises despite the FDA's battery of tests, but teen pregnancy has a 100% chance of screwing up her life.
  • laroja, on 10/11/2007, -0/+26Scary, scary woman; that's all I can say about that.
  • Kbennett, on 10/11/2007, -2/+27Crazy people = big ratings for Cavuto.
  • profOblivion, on 10/11/2007, -3/+25@BigManOnCampus

    Your point about "populations in industrialized nations [being] in free-fall" strikes me as being a little off the mark. I don't know about the rest of the world, here's some info for Canada: http://www.statcan.ca/Daily/English/060927/d060927a.htm - "Between July 1, 2005 and July 1, 2006, Canada's population increased by 324,000 to an estimated 32,623,500."

    I think what you're referring to is "natural increase", which has been declining over the years, but hasn't quite gone negative.

    What else is notable, though, is where the population increase is coming from: "On the other hand, international migration gained in importance and has accounted for more than 60% of Canada's population growth since 2001." So yeah, people (at least in Canada) are having fewer kids.
  • mywhitenoise, on 10/11/2007, -1/+23I can't believe they censored "God".
  • vuke69, on 10/11/2007, -0/+21"Why doesn't Fox put ME on?"

    Because you actually have logic (faulty, granted) to back up your position.
  • djvchris, on 10/11/2007, -5/+25Come on...tell us what you really think, and please be a little less cerebral about it. You lost me in the intellectual depth of your argument.
  • chodaboy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+20Well it was on Fox, so it must be fair and balanced news...
  • ventralnet, on 10/11/2007, -0/+19Did anyone find it funny that the woman arguing for birth control was good looking while the abstinence woman was a ugmo?
  • mywhitenoise, on 10/11/2007, -6/+25I hate overpopulation, I hate babies, and I hate irresponsible parents. Whoever thought of the abortion first, God has a spot saved for you in Heaven.
  • chaosium, on 10/11/2007, -0/+18I'm guessing she does it only for babymaking and cries afterwards.
  • swrostmore, on 10/11/2007, -2/+20MORE BABIES WE LOVE BABIES
  • JimXugle, on 10/11/2007, -2/+20Lets see her support all of the extra babies.

    ...

    Wait... where did all that love go?
  • johnhummel, on 10/11/2007, -1/+18@OneHine: I would mostly agree, but I also feel that we have the power to change this.

    Anyone remember the CNN show Crossfire - a liberal and conservative with their guests and shouting points (I won't even dignify it by calling them "talking points"). Until the day Jon Stewart showed up and spanked them both by being a reasonable moderate that showed that *both* emperor's on the show had no clothing. It was 2 weeks after that Crossfire was cancelled, Tucker Carlson was sent elsewhere.

    You could argue that other shows on CNN take up the same space, but I think they're not quite as bad. If we as viewers demand differently, then we'll get shows with reasonable discussions and viewpoints that can help moderates find the points they agree upon and act upon that. Granted, it means we have to turn off the TV, or appeal to the people who hosts the shows in very vocal and loud protests, but change *can* happen if we want it bad enough.
  • EricAnderton, on 10/11/2007, -1/+18Seriously. Where's the list of children she's adopted and put through school?
  • meltingrobot, on 10/11/2007, -0/+17@raitchison
    Idiocracy. I seriously recommend that movie to everybody.
    http://imdb.com/title/tt0387808/
  • JohnnyXmas, on 10/11/2007, -1/+18That's PRECISELY what she's saying.
  • djvchris, on 10/11/2007, -2/+19I don't think she has to worry about women becoming like men...unless they start actually moving to the left side of the lane when making a left turn.
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