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- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -15/+94I'm no Maher fan, but Falwell does not get a pass, considering his hateful rhetoric while alive.
- DrFelch, on 10/11/2007, -16/+63Maher is right on the money, as usual. What he failed to mention, however was how racism, sexism and homophobia
are now the mantra of the Republican party, mainly thanks to whackos and christofascists like the demagogue Falwell. Falwell is the man who made it possible for an ignorant, moronic lifelong failure to be elected president
simple for declaring himself a "religious" man, and duping all the stupid christos into voting for him. It was a bit of sweet irony how he only really paid lip service to heir social agenda in large part. He did give them a LOT of our tax dollars, though, for their simple minded "faith based" initiatives that hve been a miserable, ineffective and probably illegal failure. Falwell is proof that humanity needs to evolve past the deadly disease of religion. It has killed more throughout the course of human history than any other bad idea. Down with religion. We can do far better without it. - aidanpryde18, on 10/11/2007, -2/+44This is a ridiculous sentiment.
I'm sorry, but comparing the actions of two consenting adults, with a violent crime such as a person forcing themselves on a child is horrible.
You talk about turning an action into a joke to destroy the taboo. Well, perhaps you are doing the the exact opposite by comparing something that is harmless with a violent criminal act.
you should be ashamed of yourself for using such a horrible metaphor. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -46/+78
A lot of research points towards christianity (or other faith based religions) as being some sort of addiction disorder. People believe in an invisible fairy god. Endorphins are released. They get high and seek to get high again. It's a lot like smoking crack. Guys like Falwell, Robertson, Graham, they know this. It's what makes them rich. They're the crack dealers. - swrostmore, on 10/11/2007, -7/+35Falwell is rumored to have said, and I quote, "God is a Republican"
- onionblaster, on 10/11/2007, -3/+31...unlike falwell, who only had the best intentions?
- deathweaver108, on 10/11/2007, -11/+38@dildooreilly
I'm no christain.... but do you have a cite for these "studies" or are you just spouting hate? - Toshibi, on 10/11/2007, -3/+29I hope you're joking. What two consenting adults do with each other is none of your ***** business. You can draw all the parallels you want between homosexuality and pedophilia, but it doesn't make them the same thing.
Adults consenting to having sex with each other is fine. Adults forcing sex on children is not. There's a huge difference there. If you can't see it you're fooling yourself. - JonMcL, on 10/11/2007, -1/+24Okay, I have to take some time out to reply to this one.
If God created the HIV virus to punish homosexuals (and of course those horrible bisexuals), then don't you think he would've made it a little more precise? So that it didn't accidentally infect hetero women and newborn babies? If he created the entire universe in 7 days, can't he make the virus only target those of us who are evil with our homosexual ways?
I can't believe you people are really that dumb, are you? - obrysii, on 10/11/2007, -1/+24Falwell preached the exact opposite of what Jesus taught. At one point he stated--and I'm paraphrasing here because I can't find the link at the moment--that Jimmy Carter's idea for peace in the middle east was 'against Christianity as [Falwell] understood it', and that the 'turn the other cheek' idea is not what Jesus 'fought and died for'
- therightside, on 10/11/2007, -9/+32Really a lot of research? Those are good sources and good points.
- polyGone, on 10/11/2007, -8/+30Thanks for curing us of this unimaginable bore with your clever and witty response.
- amsoell, on 04/20/2009, -5/+27"a lot of research?" yeah, that's a statement I can get behind.
- Mrstupid7, on 10/11/2007, -5/+26I don't need sources to believe dildooreilly. I have faith.
- sishgupta, on 10/11/2007, -3/+22Falwell didnt have anything close to the best intentions. He had ignorant intentions. It was his intent to convince everyone that homosexuality was immoral...
***** JERRY FALWELL. - fantasticFlan, on 10/11/2007, -1/+19Simple counter: lesbians have the lowest incidence of HIV.
- torgos, on 10/11/2007, -8/+26Death couldn't have happened to a more deserving man than Falwell. Good riddance, *****.
- FenderF4i, on 10/11/2007, -1/+18"It can also be said that environmentalism is a religion."
No it cannot. A religion includes a belief in a supernatural power. Environmentalism does not. - Rossoneri22, on 10/11/2007, -2/+19That doesn't work anymore. You can only stand to the side and remain quite for so long. We have done that and as a result people like Falwell have gained far too much influence and power.
- JOrtiz8612, on 10/11/2007, -2/+19Falwell was a lunatic who made millions herding sheep (narrow minded people) who believed in his *****.
- torgos, on 10/11/2007, -3/+192 things:
1) The right NEVER hates, right?
2) You should have used its, not it's. So your entire argument is now invalid. - Rossoneri22, on 10/11/2007, -1/+16So what if he is gay? If you ever watched the show you'd think otherwise. But anyway, what does being gay have to do with him making these comments about Falwell? It's not like he is the leader of the evangelical church or something...
- typographics, on 10/11/2007, -5/+19for his sake, i hope hell does exists.
- plhearn, on 10/11/2007, -1/+15@weside
can I interest you in some buttseks? - xt0ph3r, on 10/11/2007, -1/+13There's no reason to be tolerant of intolerance personified.
- dodus, on 10/11/2007, -1/+12Fred Phelps also compared sodomy to eating banana pudding, not sure what your point is.
- xt0ph3r, on 10/11/2007, -2/+12Those rules only apply if you are a Christian. Falwell did a LOT of judging in his time, and now that his time is over, we can look back on his life and judge him entirely and accordingly. The specific difference, here, is that we are not judging Falwell by the color of his skin or his sexual preference... but rather, we are judging his actions.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -7/+16"Really a lot of research? Those are good sources and good points."
It's called psychology. Read up on it sometime.
Most people who are overly religious have a longing that can't be fulfilled via social or direct relationships, and the "love/affection" they get through religion makes up for this.
Then it's the "best thing ever", so then they keep on with it.
This is why they appear somewhat insane... sorta because they are. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9There's no hypocrisy here. I know personally, I'm tolerant as long as people are somewhat reasonable.
Falwell was a manipulator and a liar. Nothing to tolerate there considering that type of thing should be eradicated. I know the right loves manipulators and liars, so maybe that's a hard thing for ya to grasp. - ozzum, on 10/11/2007, -4/+12Some thoughts:
Religion and politics should never mix - that was the premise this country was founded on - Falwell brought the religious right into politics and gave us George - Perhaps we should take a strong look at taking away the non-profit tax status of militant religions that meddle in politics.
Religion has always been the opiate of the masses - IE. it is easier to control a mind and make it do what you want it to than to control someones body. It is easier to take suffering, if you think your reward is in heaven. Philosophies have always ruled over reason - right or wrong as it maybe.
God is always the final curtain of understanding of any era - man goes so far and what is unexplainable with the present science of the day is the will of god or magic until it is finally explained.
As Ayn Rand (Atlas Shrugged) said "More sins have been committed in the name of altruism than for any other cause". Falwell acted in his own best self interest as did Hitler, Stalin, Genghis Khan etc.
At the present time it would be unthinkable for an atheist to run for President
Benjamin Franklin expressed the thought that if man is still evil even with religion - imagine where he would be without it.
To sum up as I see it and as Ronald Reagan said - the only thing that will unite and unify all humans to the context that we are all the same and are quantumly entangled is a visit or threat from space. - OralCavity, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9you are right. i am completely bigoted against ***** who's only goal is to make life hell for other people.
unlike falwell, who was bigoted against people who never did a single thing against him and just decided to arbitrarily make them pariahs.
no shame in my bigotry of ***** - jamshid, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9I think Tinky Winky said it best:
http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2007/05/16/falwell_tinky/
But at the end of the day, I'm not terribly sad, and I think a lot of people feel the same way. Jerry Falwell was a divisive person, a hateful person, and what I've tried to be all about, in the Teletubbies days and since then, has been love. I've got to keep it that way. I don't want anybody feeling good about it when it's my time for Tubby bye-bye. - EntropyMan, on 10/11/2007, -3/+11@fisharmor, nearly ever single statement you made is incorrect. Did you realize you were ignorant, or were you simply lying? And if so, who did you think would fall for that crap?
- billyverde, on 10/11/2007, -2/+10LooseCannon1: "The left just loves to spew it's hate."
So forgive them. - daRoach, on 10/11/2007, -11/+19There is a flaw in your logic, you assume that he only easily led people are religious or Republicans. There are people who are easily persuaded on all sides. There are Christians and Republicans who saw Falwell for what he was, a loudmouthed bigot who spoke opposite in the way that Christ would have. I could mention people on the other side of the political and religious spectrum who employ the same tactics Falwell and others used, but I'm not trying to start a political argument. I know it is pretty futile, but I'm just pretty tired of the hypocritical posts being made about how stupid people are while at the same time making stupid assumptions and reinforcing their own ignorance.
- tdogg241, on 10/11/2007, -2/+10I would've gone with Rot In Hell, myself. That ***** deserves no rest.
- JuCee, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9The left isn't inclusive of *****.
- archiesteel, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8Wait a minute - *you* can say these things about Falwell, but the left can't because - according to you - the fact that they support tolerance means they can't denounce an intolerant bigot?
First, being tolerant does not mean what you think it means. It means that no one should be judged by the color of their skin, their sex, their religion, their nationality, etc. It does *not* mean that one considers all moral positions to be equal in value - in particular, anyone preaching intolerance can justly be condemned, because it goes straight against those core values.
You, on the other, seem to take great care in dissociating yourself from the tolerance that is at the core of leftist political theory. Does that mean that you think it's okay to discriminate against someone due to their color, sex, religion, etc.? Careful: if you say yes, you're a bigot, and if you say no, you're a hypocrite.
All in all, though, I think it's quite clear that you are first and foremost a dumbass. - ubuwalker31, on 10/11/2007, -21/+28@stepcousin
and your mother is an incredible whore :-) - OralCavity, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7tolerance of people is different than tolerance for people's actions.
having tolerance for someone who was born different than you merely for genetic reasons (racial, sexual, etc..) does equate to having tolerance for someone's actions. the "left" has never told people to be more tolerant of murders or rapists because those are ACTIONS. the "left" has told you to be tolerant of homosexuals, african americans, hispanics, and so on because those are PEOPLE.
you don't see anyone being criticized for talking ill of murders or hate mongers or rapists, why should we not talk ill of someone who has caused so much hate in his life?
no hypocrisy there at all. - krebcycle, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7because God loves them? what are you insinuating?
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -2/+8Tinkey winkey is gay and Pat Roberson is dying of cancer, what a wonderful world.........
- joeyjojo, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7"Why can't we 'be the better man (or woman)' and just let it go."
a) it's cathartic
b) 'tolerating hate' is not a thing we should do for socieity's sake
And 'hating hate' is not the same thing as 'hating'.
It's a tired (but alas, well proven) spin tactic to bash anyone that tries to quash hate speech as somehow being 'more hateful' for standing against it.
Falwell hated blacks, gays, women, society, etc. But if someone hates Falwell, well then THEY are the evil one...not Falwell? - Rossoneri22, on 10/11/2007, -9/+15@dildooreilly
Wow, I hope that's actually true (scientifically backed) just to see what reasoning the religious nuts use to try and disprove it. - Jade10145, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7I would say the best point of this monologue was that people like Falwell use God as an excuse to say things that they themselves are against. If you use God it just looks better then if you said it. Also I liked how he pointed out the baseless statements that Falwell has said in the past. 9/11 caused by gay people? WTF!
On a side note, I am curious what kind of stories come out about Falwell now that he is gone...Gay cover up anyone? - Moosington, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Maher also goes to every Playboy Mansion party and is known as a womanizer of sorts, so what's your point? Of course I didn't hear these things from your Wife's friend in L.A. so it's probably BS.
- pktgumby, on 10/11/2007, -4/+9"But the Bible also says 'judge not, lest ye be judged'"
Wait...wasn't that Metallica?! - revenge7, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7And Colbert would be Press Secretary.
- joeyjojo, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6If you think they sound the same, then you are like many americans who seems to believe anything Falwell said...you're simply a shallow thinker, at best.
Maher is saying he disliked Falwell because he was a racist, homophobic mysogynist who used the bible as a weapon of hate.
Phelps is saying he disliked Falwell because he wasn't ENOUGH OF a racist, homophobic mysogynist who used the bible as a weapon of hate.
Opposite ends of the spectrum there, bud. - Morelia, on 10/11/2007, -17/+22I love Bill Maher and Jon Stewart ..... they should be president and vice president of the USA! They'd create the best administration ever!
Falwell deserces, in death as in life, to be exposed for the farce that he is and the harm that he has caused to America's families and especially children. -
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