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Being Politically Correct Has Gone Too Far

resourcesforattorneys.com — The Act Of Being Politically Correct Has Gone From The Sublime To The Ridiculous.

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  • BitterrootBob, on 06/21/2008, -20/+37Makes you want to stick needles in your eyeballs. Funny that these same "politically correct" people that seem so tolerant want to be able to tell you how you should live every aspect of your life. They even want the government to legislate it.
    • oxdeltaxo, on 06/22/2008, -1/+6I try to be as direct as possible, regardless of offense. Trying to beat around the bush only makes things less politically correct.
    • sTiKyt, on 06/22/2008, -1/+10OMFG Does anyone RTFA these days. Half of these comments are just generic anti-political correct posts you'd expect to see if someone read the title, agreed to some extent and decided to leave a comment just to vent their opinions. Never mind the fact that the author of this article believes the president is above criticism or that there is some kind of 'Hollywood Left-Wing conspiracy' to spread political correctness.
      Plz read all of the article and at least reference some part of it to your comments instead of posting all this vague useless *****.
    • Dumbledorito, on 06/22/2008, -1/+1Yeah, darn those lib'rulls trying to change how we talk:

      http://www.lubbockonline.com/news/020897/heaveno.h ...

      Oh, wait, no. That's a right-wing religious nut who actually got his language change ('heaveno," as opposed to the obviously blasphemous "hello") legislated as the official county greeting.
  • rcnevada, on 06/21/2008, -11/+31In the future please refer to me as a melononin challenged, vertically enhanced, irreligious, non-female, American of Anglo Saxon descent.
    • Nudar, on 06/22/2008, -0/+6"melanin challenged"
    • philthetechie, on 06/22/2008, -4/+3since it's the internet, I'm just gonna call you a douche bag instead.

      /flame
      • beesaretasty, on 06/22/2008, -1/+1American would be considered insulting to the rest of people from North/Central/South America since they are also from the Americas. Better go with the state you are from...
        • quesi, on 06/22/2008, -0/+1This is one of the more intelligent statements I have seen recently, and I am shocked to see the total count = zero. Why would this be dugg down, if any of the marauders would care to comment?
    • foxhaze, on 06/22/2008, -7/+2I'll go with "*****."
  • P8triot1, on 06/21/2008, -17/+12I think it may not be political correctness that's the problem.

    I find we are not supposed to say we are our brother's keeper, responsible for each other's welfare.

    We can't say taxes should be proportional and they are how we care for the common good.

    We can't say greedy capitalism has hurt the world's poor deeply.

    We can't say "free trade" is best when it is also "fair trade".

    We can't say we are a nation of immigrants and have that mean something.

    We can't say this world has been lent to us in trust for all future generations.
  • davidhallstrom, on 06/21/2008, -8/+15To P8triot1: I am confused as to what your comment has to do with political correctness, however in response I will say the following:
    1. I agree with your first point and don't know of anyone who would fault you for saying that. That does not mean though, that we should allow ourselves to be taken advantage of.
    2. I don't know what you mean by proportional taxes. If you mean that a person who works 70 and 80 hour work weeks in order to get ahead should pay a higher percentage in taxes, then I disagree. Why work so hard just to have it taken away from you? If you mean that that person should have to pay the same proportion of his income in taxes as a person who works a 40 hour work week then I agree completely.
    3. I agree with number three, with the statement that not all capitalists are greedy. As far as I'm concerned greed is bad no matter who or what is greedy. Some people are greedy for money and some people are greedy for power. They are both just as bad.
    4. I am against blanket free trade and that is one of the things that I did not like about President Clinton and that is one of the things that I disagree with President Bush on
    5. We are a nation of immigrants and it does mean something. My wife and her family came here legally from Mexico in the 1960's. My great grandparents came here as legal immigrants in the early 1900's. I am all for legal immigration and I feel that the quotas for some countries should be increased. I am, however, very much against illegal immigration as I want us to know something about the type of person coming to live in this country before he or she comes here.
    6. I believe that we should take care of this planet but I also believe that fanatical environmentalism causes more harm than it does good. There needs to be a balance and with extremism there is never a balance.
    Now that I have responded, please tell me what any of this has to do with political correctness.
    • mikesbaker, on 06/22/2008, -4/+4REPLY BUTTON DO YOU SPEAK IT MOTHER *****!!!!
  • P8triot1, on 06/22/2008, -5/+6You gave many examples of things that you felt were taken too far.

    Political correctness seemed to mean to you that you could not say certain things anymore.
    (Janitor is out of fashion)

    I think the reality is that who ever is in power seems to control (often thru the MSM) what we are supposed to say or not say. Including the janitor concept.

    I totally agree that we should not be coerced into shutting up and not saying what we think. I agree we need to say things to each other. Talk and listen.

    You seem to find progressive people doing the coercing. I find conservative, reactive people doing it.
    • davidhallstrom, on 06/22/2008, -1/+4No, I find extremists on both sides doing it. But I find that the far left does it much more. By the way, I don't equate far left with progressive. That is just my opinion and I don't know everything.
  • FlForever, on 06/22/2008, -12/+7Well written David and good submission (I liked it better than the jokes... :) )
  • jontalisman, on 06/22/2008, -3/+9Dave, I think you're taking life too seriously. Stick to the great jokes. Cheers, Jon
  • davidhallstrom, on 06/22/2008, -6/+4To FLForeever and jontalism: Thank you both, for different reasons. I post humor, gardening, fitness, health, legal, golf, fishing, camping, opinion and other articles. None of them ever go popular and most likely none of them ever will. I don't mind. Believe it or not I don't take life that seriously. I just like to post things that may be of help or of interest to people and the opinion pieces that I post are just my opinions. Things that I feel other people would like to say but don't. Additionally, I have fun with the opinion pieces. I like to read and respond to what others have to say.
    Thank you both again for your comments.
  • mejaredme, on 06/22/2008, -18/+16Politically correct=extreme left wing.
    • carpespasm, on 06/22/2008, -3/+7*****. It covers all sorts of cruft that people have insensitive terms for. Is it "extreme left wing" for me to be politically correct and call a religious person "faithful" instead of "deluded" or "willfully ignorant"? That door swings both ways.
  • mellomeh, on 06/22/2008, -12/+35What a terrible article. Most of the observations are exaggerated or simply untrue. Others are complete non-sequiturs.

    The liberal Hollywood elite is trying to force you to speak in a manner acceptable to them? Seriously? Last time I checked, there's nothing stopping you from wishing people a 'merry Christmas', there's nothing stopping you calling people what you want. If you don't like the fact that a store isn't celebrating your holiday, then you're free to shop elsewhere.

    What gives you the idea that the President should be immune from criticism? More to the point, what exactly does criticising the President have to do with 'Political Correctness'? It's perfectly possible to hate a President or Government of a country while still loving that country. I'm British, I dislike Bush, but I still like the USA as a country and would love to visit again someday.
    • Eiknujrac, on 06/22/2008, -1/+17My favorite fallacy is "The fact that President Bush is the elected leader of this country and that when they insult him they are insulting the Office Of The President and thereby insulting this country, doesn't seem to matter."

      Never EVER do I insult the country when I say things that might insult Bush. Bush is NOT America, contrary to some people's beliefs. I reserve the right, and in fact have a duty, to criticize the president.
  • ronalton, on 06/22/2008, -12/+6I agree with almost everything written in this article.
  • P8triot1, on 06/22/2008, -3/+38May we never confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion.
    ~Dwight D. Eisenhower

    To announce that there must be no criticism of the president...is morally treasonable to the American public.
    ~Theodore Roosevelt
    • Eiknujrac, on 06/22/2008, -2/+16“Dissent is the highest form of patriotism.”

      “No matter that patriotism is too often the refuge of scoundrels. Dissent, rebellion, and all-around hell-raising remain the true duty of patriots.”
      • Simonft, on 06/22/2008, -0/+4Howard Zinn and Barbara Ehrenreich, attribute them please.
    • screamthenrun, on 06/22/2008, -0/+3I agreed with the rest of the article, but the whole thing about insulting the President is slightly ludicrous. If anything, he was correct that the goal of some of Hollywood is to make the jokes believable, but that has nothing to do with political correctness.

      Anyways.... overall, good article except for saying that you can't criticize the prez.

      EDIT: some of the terms looked like they just tacked on "impaired"-- i've never seen some of those terms before.
      my general point however was that political correctness sucks.. really hard
  • larryoldem, on 06/22/2008, -11/+9P8triot1 - According to the American Heritage dictionary dissent means "To differ in opinion or feeling; disagree. To withhold assent or approval." Nowhere in any dictionary does it say that dissent means to insult by calling names.

    mellomeh - Criticize is to "find fault with" again nowhere does any dictionary that I have read state that to criticize is to call names or insult. Idiot, moron, jerk and stupid are not criticisms nor are they dissent.

    Nowhere in this article do I find any complaint about criticism of the President or of disagreeing with the President. The author talks solely about insulting the President. In my opinion there is a big difference between insulting the President and criticizing or disagreeing with the President.
    • 180andback, on 06/22/2008, -1/+2I find fault with the fact that the President of the United States has failed to perform his job in a satisfactory manner. Ergo, I call him a ***** douchebag.
  • mentallyinhell, on 06/22/2008, -2/+3No matter what the trend is, people will always take it too far.
  • davidmesaaz, on 06/22/2008, -3/+6this is crazy...
  • davidhallstrom, on 06/22/2008, -8/+3To P8triot1: What we have hear is a failure to communicate. I have nothing against criticizing the this or any other President. I criticize our President all the time. I have nothing against disagreeing with this or any President. I disagree with and criticize our current President on many matters. What I don't like is insulting this or any President. In my opinion that is just plain wrong. As larryoldem stated there is a big difference between insulting and criticizing and disagreeing. Of course I don't like the use of insults in any discussion. In my opinion there is no reason to use insults. In my opinion people who use insults lower themselves and show their immaturity. A person can get his or her point across much better by using reasonable discourse than by using insults. In the past I have resorted to insults a couple of times and each time I regretted it because I felt stupid afterward. There were better and more educated ways that I could have gotten my point across.
  • davidhallstrom, on 06/22/2008, -8/+6To anyone who comes after this. These comments have gotten of track. The post was about political correctness in general. Insulting or not insulting the President was just one small part of it.
  • P8triot1, on 06/22/2008, -2/+3I suspect that we would agree on much if we were talking face to face. I know the uselessness and hurtfulness of insults.

    Your comment in the article about the abuse of priests, lumping them in with pedophiles, matches what I have seen often, also.

    And I really think that many of us have become sensitive in the last six years to the insulting abuse of "patriotism" as a bludgeon against honest critical assessment of the Iraq occupation / invasion, (and other forms of "anti-terrorism") from day one.

    That sensitivity makes us (me) cynical about most discussions of the use of words to describe other "conservative" catch-phrases like political correctness.
    • davidhallstrom, on 06/22/2008, -1/+21. Thank you for your first sentence. I think you could be right.

      2. Patriotism can manifest itself in many different ways.
      • P8triot1, on 06/22/2008, -0/+1Interestingly, you have gotten a lot of Diggs. Even tho I'm personally tired of this kind of discussion, I'm happy that you got a lot of folks involved and sharing.

        I'm tired because it seems like a distraction from living a healthy and productive life (for me that is a Gospel centered life), and doing something positive about the horrendous harm Bush and cronies have caused in this world.
  • ChrisshEnzo, on 06/22/2008, -2/+4be careful what you wish for is all i can say.
  • janetaSiri, on 06/22/2008, -2/+11Starting Each Word With A Capital Makes It More Important, No?
  • shanlee88, on 06/22/2008, -3/+3It gets scary when they start introducing government legislation
  • rebotfc, on 06/22/2008, -1/+7This article reminds me of the internet in 1997,
    • 180andback, on 06/22/2008, -0/+4When people had not yet mastered the use of basic punctuation ,
  • RachaelMichele, on 06/22/2008, -5/+12I'm perfectly fine with everyone being pc if it means I don't have to hear about "god" and my kids don't have to say "under god" at school.
    • Nudar, on 06/22/2008, -4/+4As long as I never have to hear another atheist espouse their beliefs.
      • carpespasm, on 06/22/2008, -0/+4Show me you're and I'll show you mine is my policy.
      • 180andback, on 06/22/2008, -0/+1@Nudar: That's fair. But whenever I handle American currency and see the words "In God We Trust", I'll launch into a diatribe about the separation of church and state.
      • RachaelMichele, on 06/22/2008, -0/+1I don't even tell people I'm an atheist unless asked. And I except the same courtesy from everyone else.
    • screamthenrun, on 06/22/2008, -0/+3Oh intolerance...
    • bullhead2007, on 06/22/2008, -0/+2Agreed. Only because I believe in the separation of church and state. And "Under God" and "in God we Trust" were added in the mid 1900's. I'm fine if Christians want to do their own thing. It's not like I'm trying to put "One nation under No god" or "We trust in No God" on things. That would be espousing Atheist ideals. There's a difference between not wanting Christian ***** in our face all the time, and forcing Atheist beliefs on people.
  • IconoclastStill, on 06/22/2008, -9/+4Your overall comment is exactly on point, David, and I agree with you on most of the details. Nicely stated.
  • prompel, on 06/22/2008, -2/+7"Politically Correct" does not equal "Tolerant".
    • Dumbledorito, on 06/22/2008, -0/+4You mean it doesn't mean "acceptance." "Tolerant" just means you don't let your panties get in a twist when someone does or doesn't say "god bless you" after a sneeze.
  • Dralha, on 06/22/2008, -5/+19PC has gone too far. Republicans aren't "fascist," they're "patriotic." Radical christian extremists aren't "theocrats," they're "social conservatives." Anti-abortion activists aren't "misogynists," they're "pro-life." Global warming denialists aren't "denialists," they're "skeptics."
    • redassassin7, on 06/22/2008, -0/+1And you are no longer "ignorant" but rather "learning impaired".
  • highlymodified, on 06/22/2008, -4/+28Calling this out as whiny *****.

    Anyone who refers to the "politically left wing Elite" (who of course are drug users), atheists, critics of the government, Hollywood, minorities and unions as in defiance to God, Christ, Priests, teachers, and "pure Americanism" needs a serious dose of "think for yourself."

    If you wanna talk about euphemisms, read George Carlin.
    If you wanna bash Hollywood, don't watch their movies or TV.
    If you have a problem with racial, ethnic, or national identities, you best leave the country.
    If you wanna change the world, get off your ass and start being one of those activists you love to hate... from your armchair, of course.

    PS: This article was posted on December 8, 2005
    • Simonft, on 06/22/2008, -0/+1I love GC on euphemisms, read Napalm and Silly putty for a lot of them.
  • mooseontheloose, on 06/22/2008, -3/+15I'm going to have to plead with people to read this inane rambling article before digging it up. It's basically whacko religious conservatism disguised as a diatribe against political correctness (which everybody hates).
  • mellomeh, on 06/22/2008, -5/+31Ok then, so let's have a look at some other points in the article.

    "A person who is deaf is now hearing impaired. A blind person is now visually impaired."

    That's not quite accurate. If someone is deaf, then it's generally assumed that they're totally deaf, same if someone is blind. However, there are many varying degrees of deafness and blindness, which is where the terms 'hearing impaired' and 'visually impaired' come in handy. They're both useful terms to describe the range of impairment. If someone is totally blind or deaf, they are technically visually or hearing impaired, so what's wrong with referring to them as such?

    "A handicapped person is now physically impaired."

    And why not? 'Handicapped' is quite a generalising term, which implies that anyone with a physical disability is being held back in some way. 'Physically impaired' is technically a more correct term. So if this is an example of political correctness, how can you argue that it's a case of it going too far?

    "A fat person is now called weight challenged or weight impaired"

    Absolute rubbish. A Google search reveals that the latter term is used a little, to ironically describe a fat person in politically correct language, but I can't find a single example of these terms being used seriously.

    "A pet is now called an animal friend."

    What?

    "A person who is slow to learn is now mentally challenged."

    What's wrong with this? "Oh this is my son Timothy, he's mentally challenged" is easier to say than "Oh this is my son Timothy, he is a person who is slow to learn".

    "Orientals are now Asians."

    Anything wrong with this?

    "Anno Domini (AD) is now Common Era (CE)."

    The phrase 'Common Era' has existed for hundreds of years, and has been used more frequently in more secular countries. Does it really annoy you that someone might refer to the 'Common Era' because they aren't Christian? Is anyone stopping you from saying 'Anno Domini'?

    "A prison is now a House Of Corrections."

    I can't find many examples of this, but when referring to the act of imprisonment 'corrections' has existed for hundreds of years, it's nothing new.

    "An illegal alien is now an undocumented immigrant or an undocumented worker."

    I don't see a problem with this. 'Illegal Alien' is a loaded term, so some people prefer to use the less biased 'undocumented immigrant'.

    "Terrorists are now called insurgents"

    This one is tricky. It's entirely possible to be an insurgent without resorting to terrorism and it's possible to be a terrorist without being an insurgent. You claim that "the definition of an insurgent is a rebel and a rebel does not usually kill innocent people" which is untrue, the dictionary definition of insurgent is "Rising in revolt against established authority, especially a government." I think it's perfectly reasonable to expect that an insurgent might kill innocent people.

    "Punks and deliquents are now called environmentally challenged youths"

    I just Googled 'environmentally challenged youths'. There were seven results, three of those results were your article.

    "People are no longer laid off, they are now downsized."

    'Downsizing' is more of a euphemism than political correctness. Would you say that someone is taking political correctness too far if they say someone has 'passed away' as opposed to 'died'?

    "Merry Christmas is now Happy Holidays."

    Oh no!

    "Happy Thanksgiving is now Happy Turkey Day."

    Actually 'Turkey Day' is just a nickname. Given that Thanksgiving is a secular holiday by nature, it wouldn't make any sense to give it a PC term.

    "Even Valentines day is now being called Friends Day."

    No it's not.
    • beesaretasty, on 06/22/2008, -2/+7Absolutely. Also Native American or American Indian depends on where you live and what tribes you are referring to. I see no problem with people not wanting to be called Indians when they have nothing to do with India, nor do I have any problem with some tribes' acceptance of the term.

      I was all ready to agree with the article from the title because I think things have gone too far, but I think the article was written by a jackass.
    • unearth, on 06/22/2008, -1/+1Thanks for replying point-by-point so the rest of us don't have to. This article was brain poison, and I can't believe it's about to frontpage.
    • davidhallstrom, on 06/22/2008, -0/+2I won't bother responding to all of your points but if you have any children in elementary school there is a good chance they celebrated ' Friends Day" I know that my grandchildren were forced to write "Friends Day" cards instead of "Valentines Day" cards. There was also a whole section of "Friends Day" cards in the card section of our local card shop.
    • fudged71, on 06/24/2008, -1/+1I'm not taking your opinion, because you are a 4channer.
      You aren't exactly top of the scale for political correctness credibility
  • Zap2, on 06/22/2008, -4/+10All the person does is bitch and complain about the "proper" word vs the more commonly used name.
    Shut Up!
  • Dumbledorito, on 06/22/2008, -3/+17"For instance Christmas is a legal holiday and was made a legal holiday in order to celebrate the birth of Christ. It is now, however, politically incorrect to say Merry Christmas because you might insult non Christians and atheists. We are told that the correct greeting is now Happy Holidays."

    Actually, it's conservatives who get all bent out of shape at this. I don't think about what I say around the time of December 25th, I often parrot back whatever was just said to me, be it "Merry Christmas," "Happy Holidays," or "Have a Kwazy Kwanzaa." I've never seen any "atheist" or anybody get ticked because someone said "Merry Christmas," but I have seen people act as if their dog was just set on fire if someone dares to utter "Happy Holidays" which they seem to interprit as "***** God and his Bastard Son and may Satan fill your head with demonic marshmallow fluff."

    "Conservative correctness" is more like it.
    • carpespasm, on 06/22/2008, -0/+5Little known fact: demonic marshmallow fluff always tastes like it's been perfectly roasted.
    • davidhallstrom, on 06/22/2008, -1/+2I don't mind people saying Happy Holidays what I do mind is when employers order their employees not to say Merry Christmas. I also don't like it when I wish somebody Merry Christmas and a lady several feet away gets angry and bawls me out for saying Merry Christmas,
  • chicoer2001, on 06/22/2008, -2/+8So if drug users are criminals, that makes Bush what?
  • ileftfark, on 06/22/2008, -2/+10The funniest ***** ever is when the overly-PC refer to Blacks living in Europe or elsewhere as "African-Americans".
    • bxblox, on 06/22/2008, -0/+4It's just as ridiculous when they assume every black person in the US is African-American.
  • kingofinternet, on 06/22/2008, -5/+9if you think political correctness is a big problem in america you need to get your head out of your ass
  • isparadiselost, on 06/22/2008, -7/+3PC = Population Control. There's no doubt about it.
  • iamondigghaha, on 06/22/2008, -0/+6I Think That A Bigger Problem Is The Rampant Capitalization Of Every Word In Digg Subtitles.
  • MasterThief117, on 06/22/2008, -3/+9This person needs to get out more. Or in more, I can't decide.
    It also seems he wants the country to revolve around Christianity.
    Also, some of the phrases he uses I have never heard of.
    This guy is 'mentally challenged.'
    • cjshamrock, on 06/22/2008, -1/+6And FAT
      • davidhallstrom, on 06/22/2008, -0/+2Well, cjshamrock, at least you weren't being politically correct. If you wish to make more comments here is some more information for you to use. I am 60 years old and due to illness I have lost most of the use of my left hand and arm and I have trouble walking. Now you can say partially crippled, fat, old person or whatever. I don't mind. I just look to the source,
  • spwpi10, on 06/22/2008, -4/+3I knew a really short kid in highschool, not a midget, just really short. He was vertically challenged.
  • cjshamrock, on 06/22/2008, -6/+9The article was going well until this:

    "Drug addicts are victims not criminals, even though they broke the law by using illegal drugs and even though they are aiding drug pushers by giving them money, because many of the Elite also use illegal drugs and they don't consider themselves to be criminals."

    ***** you, Mr Hallstrom. Go suck GWB's nutsack.









  • LeonidasStokely, on 06/22/2008, -0/+3I agree with the sentiment. Some policies and rules of ettiquette based on Political Correctness are absurd and unreasonable. I'd even say most are. However, this article is not slamming the PC culture fuelled by 'celebrities', trashy media (most of it), and popularity obsessed politicians; it is in fact defending an (in my opnion) antiquated and faintly xenophobicperception of the world.

    FTA "Political correctness is fine to a point, but like anything else, take it too far and it becomes ridiculous. "

    The criticsm of political correctness is fine to a point, but like anything else, take it too far and it becomes ridiculous.
  • tehbored, on 06/22/2008, -4/+8Stop your god damned bitching you little pussy. You just made most of those up and the ones you didn't really aren't that bad. You're just arguing for the sake of arguing. Bury this *****.
    • kolinkoolface2, on 06/22/2008, -0/+2you sound bitter because half of the article holds some truth.
      • tehbored, on 06/22/2008, -2/+1Actually it's just because I hear people complain about this way too often and it's really annoying.
  • killedinfog, on 06/22/2008, -6/+2Why do we will call it ramadan? it should be called Happy not eating food in day time month, that's what it should be called cus it offends us christians,
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  • Eric3k, on 06/22/2008, -0/+1A term gets changed when term takes on a negative connotation. The author who is over weight himself must realize that calling someone fat has that exact negative connotation. It is generally used in a demeaning manner. While I don't call someone physically challenged or differently abled because "handicapped" is not insulting I don't call a heavy person "fat"... that too often is meant to be negative.
  • DaDrake, on 06/22/2008, -7/+9Remember kids.... anyone who criticize Obama is a racist!
    • LeonidasStokely, on 06/22/2008, -2/+1No, but a lot of them are simply afraid of things that are new.

      I don't like him because he has a creepy smile though...
      • unearth, on 06/22/2008, -1/+1...What?

        You think OBAMA has a creepy smile? Look at McCain. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJHNizBm_BY

        Obama's smile might be goofy, but McCain's is just awkward and pathetic. Creepy, even.

        I mean, I wouldn't even debate something like this normally, but it's as if someone walked up to me and said "I don't want to move to Florida, it's too cold there."
  • CTK14A, on 06/22/2008, -4/+5Remember the Imus 'hoes' nonsense?
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=ioYrNYsNUfY
  • t4stringer, on 06/22/2008, -8/+5i agree 100% with this article
  • Idgit, on 06/22/2008, -2/+5"The fact that President Bush is the elected leader of this country and that when they insult him they are insulting the Office Of The President and thereby insulting this country, doesn't seem to matter."

    Seriously dude? That logic is pure *****. And even if you believe it, just learn to lighten the ***** up.
  • internetcoward, on 06/22/2008, -4/+3Quit griping and just stop being PC you ***** retards.
  • franklymister, on 06/22/2008, -0/+2Ignoring basic English rules of grammar, punctuation and spelling has gone too far.
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