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- scoot87, on 10/12/2007, -3/+35the sad part is that you knew it was a terrible joke but you still submitted the comment
- t3soro, on 10/12/2007, -2/+29Because intelligence doesn't stop bullets from men on grassy knolls.
- Trublmakr, on 10/12/2007, -1/+28JFK was before my time, but from what I've studied, he was honest and enlightened,.. he probably had to work really hard to stomach Washington politics and I'm convinced it's this integrity that led to his murder. To my American neighbors, here's hoping you can find another leader of this caliber in 2008.
- JonForTheWin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+26He was too smart and knew too much.
- Thater, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15The CIA drew up those plans, and Kennedy immediately nixed them and fired Allen Dulles in the process. The CIA was consistently at odds with JFK which is why the Bay of Pigs happened in the first place. The CIA tried to force him into a war, he refused, their men died, and subsequently he earned a lot of enemies in the intelligence community and was killed.
He had nothing to do with Operation Northwoods himself. He was dead against it from the moment it was brought to him. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18He was smart enough to pen executive order 11110 which has never been repealed. (Not that I am a fan of executive orders since they are completely un-Constitutional)
http://www.john-f-kennedy.net/executiveorder11110.htm
However, this one would change the US for the better. Funny it has never been implemented. - thepompano, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15The audio track is pretty solid, but what's with the pictures? Freemasons and Darth Vader? Austin Powers and riot squads?
- Cojawfee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9He's also the guy that sent us to the moon. And got people talking about Berlin. I agree, worst president ever.
- lordmetroid, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10I belive it was the central bankers in cooperation with CIA. Just like any other president who tried to shut down the Central Bank he was murdered. Andrew Jackson was darn lucky escaping death in the way he did.
- DigDugDigger, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8This speech ranks up there with the speech by Eisenhower warning us about the 'military-industrial-complex'. It's amazing how the words of past presidents relate to what is going on today so well.
Now I'm going to kill my chances of being dugg up by throwing in some speculation. Wasn't he murdered soon after making this speech? Sounds like he used the secret societies he spoke of so he could get in power (because if you don't get in those societies you lose no matter how great the issues you run on are), and once he got in power he started acting in the best interest of the people instead of those very societies, so he had to be stopped. But yeah, that's ONLY speculation... but seems to make sense to me. - JonForTheWin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7JFK personally rejected the high-treason 911-style plan named Operation Northwoods.
JFK for the win!
If you don't know what Northwoods is LOOK IT UP.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods - mdfrake, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7The imagery was not appropriate for the message. There was a G.I. Joe's Cobra symbol mixed in. There was a Mel Brooks shot mixed in. Either this was a joke, or it was serious. At this point it seems the only one that knows is the creator. Besides, the speech was powerful enough that it didn't need an image to flash by every 2 seconds, at best it was distracting, at worst it was ridiculous.
- MrFlesh, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8He was killed by the CIA because he was trying to dismantle the CIA.
- Karmalary, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I have several of those Silver Certificates. My grandfather gave them to me in the 60s.
- Cojawfee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+71963 is not the mid seventies.
- chip0wa, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6did you forget to take your anxiety pills?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8damn this makes me have even more respect for JFK
this is exactly what america needed
get the US back out of the control of those central banks..
they RULE the country, and by proxy, most of the world
they print the money! they control its worth, they control interest rates, they control your mortage, its cause of them taht the american dollar today is worht 4 cents compared to what an american dollar was worth in 1913 - blandrys, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7"Thats right, old JFK says everything thats happening now is basically...well... unamerican".
Hmmm... let's see... a continent full of gun crazed, racist, brainwashed religious
freaks denying evolution, torturing POWs, wiretapping it's own citizens, killing
and raping across all continents in the name of "freedom", worshipping money
and capitalism, locking up millions of it's own citizens for smoking a little herb,
refusing to sign treaties to slow down global warming, keeps building nukes while
forbidding others to do so...
Nope, sorry. Everything that´'s happening now is absolutely american.
Stop living in ***** fairy-tale land you. America is one of the most ignorant
places on earth, and what makes it even worse is the fact that americans still
somehow are "proud to be americans" because of (insert list of beautiful
propaganda that has absolutely nothing to do with reality here). - MaximusIGN, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7>>>Cheating on a person is one of the worst human crimes.
Huh? Adultery is in the same league as killing, genocide, child molesting? If so why aren't people that commit adultery executed? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7hes the greatest president since in the last 100 years or so thats for sure..
if we had another president like him RIGHT NOW my faith in the survival of a free and democratic america might be restored
but for now we are stuck in this facist illusion - jhshukla, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5If God had wanted us to vote, he would have given us candidates.
- junk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Sorry to abuse the first comment but this is a HEAVILY edited version of the speech.
You can read and listen to the original here:
http://www.jfklibrary.org/Historical+Resources/Archives/Reference+Desk/Speeches/JFK/003POF03NewspaperPublishers04271961.htm
There is a link at the top of the speech that will open the audio in a pop-up window. - littlebylittle, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Nope. It was the Mob and the CIA. Evidence in this book has been corroborated by recently declassified documents. Most of America doesn't know this yet. You got the scoop here.
Ultimate Sacrifice: John and Robert Kennedy, the Plan for a Coup in Cuba, and the Murder of JFK (Paperback)
http://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Sacrifice-Robert-Kennedy-Murder/dp/0786718323/sr=1-2/qid=1167570073/ref=sr_1_2/102-8768182-6759344?ie=UTF8&s=books
The newest evidence is only in the updated trade paperback. - AlfaWolph, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8JonFTW nails it.
- AlfaWolph, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I don't even care if a president enjoys jacking to gerbils dressed in leather slathered in peanut butter. For one thing, it's not my business what someone does in their personal life so long as it's between his or herself and other consensual adults. If they deliver a strong economy and sound and safe foreign policy, their personal life is just that, personal. That of course means I may not like a president as a person but consider him or her damn good for the job. I have both casual and professional colleagues I can (and do) feel the same way about and vice versa.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Beyond31 - Welcome to my block list!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10i think it was the cia too, the cia acting thru a small group of cubans they trained to carry out terror attacks in cuba
- hobgobbler, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9the imagery was stupid. I couldn't take any of what he said seriously after the still from 'eyes wide shut'.
- littlebylittle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4JFTW, sometimes you can be a little extreme. I agree with much of what you say, but I think you should start offering some solutions and a little optimism instead of always flushing America down the toilet like we're finished. We're not finished.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Indeed. This man really wanted to help make the world a better place. He refused 'their' schemes and wanted to help us rather than use us as 'they' do. The scumbags who inhabit our system wouldn't have it, however. JFK is truly the greatest president ever. In fact, he is the few REAL president we've ever had (and that they didn't let us keep), the rest are just following orders.
- geronimo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6This is why you lost the last election. Greatness with just a click and that's all you have to say.
- kaiwai, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Pardon? but this has been the status quo for ages; in New Zealand, the reserve bank is owned by the government, and all banks bank with the reserve bank; prior to the reserve bank act, the government controlled interest rates directly along with money supply; thats to that stupidity, we ended up with interests of 17%+
The reserve bank act ensures that the bank acts independently of the government in a non-political manner to ensure price stability and market confidence by ensuring inflation is kept between 0-3% - littlebylittle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Hey, Digg came from an American. "The News" will never be the same. Don't underestimate the American ability to rescue itself from its own stupidity.
Much of what you say does need to be addressed. - anonydigg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"in New Zealand, the reserve bank is owned by the government"
In the United States, it's not; although it's partially controlled by government entities, private member banks(private corporations) collectively own all shares of the Federal Reserve. American people pay interest through taxes to private entities by simply holding forms of money. That's whats wrong with it, not the premise of an independent body controlling interest rates. I will add that I am not an expert in this area and only have elementary knowledge of economics. I will even appreciate it if I'm wrong and you correct me. - Rosemary02, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I loved JFK and was a fanatic Kennedy lover for years. I wanted to BE Jackie Kennedy. I was the JFK campaign chairman in my 5th grade mock election. He was bright, charming, well educated, and a product of the very privileged elites that you all are fantasizing about here with your loony conspiracy theories and highly edited tapes. His father's (Joseph) wealth came primarily from breaking the law by running bootleg whiskey. Joseph Kennedy too, deeply hurt his wife by being an habitual womanizer. As a German sympathizer before WWII, he was a huge embarrassment to FDR. Joe Kennedy and the corrupt Democrat machine bought the 1961 election for Kennedy through a vote- buying scheme that tipped the elections in West Virginia and Missouri. I'm sorry to say that the whole Kennedy myth is built on a foundation of lies and corruption.
The entire Kennedy Camelot legacy was a carefully crafted sham which gullible people still believe in today. During his lifetime, his image was presented as an athletic, healthy family man. But Kennedy was very ill, took strong painkilling drugs, was a sex addict (including a very dangerous affair with a Mafia don's girlfriend), and hired his brother as AG which would never pass the smell test today. His maturity and judgment were highly questionable in retrospect. All of this was ignored by an adoring press when times were different and a president's personal life wasn't so public. After his death, numerous loyal administration members like Ted Sorensen wrote loving, if mostly misleading, pseudo-histories to paint the best picture of this flawed man.
Kennedy and his brother Bobby were the ultimate civil rights abusers when it came to trapping criminals they didn't like. They frequently abused the power of the F.B.I. (Though I have no sympathy for their criminal victims.) They used every means possible, legal and otherwise to achieve their goals. So those of you who praise Kennedy (who even spied on Martin Luther King) and damn the Bush administration for wiretapping a few terrorists, just haven't read your Kennedy history. Robert Kennedy worked closely with Joe McCarthy, and when McCarthy fell into disgrace, JFK was the only Senator not to speak out against him. Kennedy began to escalate our involvement in Viet Nam too, but with his death, he completely escaped any responsibility for that. Though many argue that he wouldn't have gotten any deeper into Viet Nam, we cannot know.
All of that said, I still think that had he lived he would have developed into a good president. But as a friend of mine who worked for the State Department during the Kennedy administration, and who liked Kennedy a lot personally said, "The best thing that happened to Kennedy's legacy was his assassination." My friend thinks that eventually knowledge of the seamy underbelly of the Kennedy clan, and their abusive power plays would have come out. Much of which would have been unacceptable to the public at that time. Instead, he was killed and everything was forgiven.
The press, Hollywood, and other media have made hundreds of millions of dollars promoting books and movies on the "Camelot" legacy and gullible people who are no longer taught much history, believe.
The Democrat Party benefits too from this myth too and does all it can to promote Kennedy's memory in order to win elections. Oddly enough, JFK was a pro-business, tax-cutting, tough on crime, cold warrior who would not recognize the Democratic Party of today. It is astonishing how far the party has drifted from Kennedy's ideals.
It would be enlightening for everyone to read a copy of Kennedy's first (and sadly, only) inaugural address from 1961. After declaring that our human rights came from God, not man (George W. Bush was criticized for stating the same) Kennedy goes on to defiantly say:
"...Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty."
It is truly one of the finest speeches of all time. And though our enemy was different then, state-sponsored Communism as opposed to stateless terrorists, I think he would have been very aggressive today in fighting our enemies.
Well, there's my rant on one of my old, if deeply flawed, heroes. - JonForTheWin, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6I live in America and it's more like land of the cowards home of the slaves.
- starlord1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3At about 2 minutes a good three paragraphs are missing. Whilst the twisted message might be entertaining and agree with what you are trying to get others to understand, those are the actions that you all would find abhor ant if the current administration were caught doing. You can't just chop out chunks of a speech to support your facts like that. Selective quoting is one thing but you've just created a whole different speech. Some previous poster compare the current residents of Pennsylvania Ave. to some Orwellian nightmare, the tactics used above are the weapons of that vision just as much. Whilst you may be harmonizing a single message in a speech you are indeed cheating the audience and the author out of the full message.
- littlebylittle, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4***BEST*** single volume on the JFK case: read on, November 19, 2005
Reviewer: Vince Palamara "SECRET SERVICE/JFK/STEELERS/MUSIC FANATIC" (South Park/Bethel Park, PA)
While I heartily recommend Harrison Livingstone's books, as well as James Fetzer's first two books, and even William Law's new book (regarding the **medical** evidence), as well as Walt Brown's "The Warren Omission" and Stewart Galanor's "Cover Up" for disecting the Warren Commission and the government's case quite amazingly, in my learned, experienced, well-read opinion, "Ultimate Sacrifice" is THE ultimate book on the JFK case (with a nod to Larry Hancock's "Someone Would Have Talked" as a very nice companion volume)!
Not only is it very well written and put together (and lengthy: over 900 pages!), it is extremely well documented and thought out. There is no other way to put it: forget all the many "theories" on the case put forward by others, however well meaning---"Ultimate Sacrifice" puts forward solid FACTS via HISTORIANS, utilizing a vast trove of (new) documents and unique-to-the-authors' knowledge obtained from Kennedy insiders, among many others.
There WAS indeed a conspiracy involved in the death of JFK...and "Ultimate Sacrifice" lays out the 'who', the 'what', and the 'why' better than any book I have ever seen. Get this book asap!
Vince Palamara (a very proud contributor [re: Abraham Bolden/ Secret Service]) - wheel, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4@arthurbarnhouse:
If you're going to be a douche bag and try to prove a pointless point, try not to spell perspective as 'prospective.' Idiot. - AlfaWolph, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2That was very constructive, Paul. Thank you for your thoughts.
- MusicalGenius, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Dude, look at the smart ones and see what happens to them... Kennedy was killed, Clinton was run through a scandal which by all means shouldn't have gone as far as it did. Abraham Lincoln was assassinated, was he stupid for it? Hey I just shot you, that makes you a moron. Your little joke could apply to other situations. A smart man 100 feet away from a man with a gun can still die can he not? The joke not only isn't funny, it has no Merritt what so ever.
Plus, It really is inappropriate to talk of a tragedy with such little care. Kennedy was very smart, his brother was smarter... They were both killed. I guess that means they are both pretty stupid huh? That just doesn't make sense let alone be even remotely funny.
I'd also like to add one thing... Watching this video did only 2 things to me. First, I have a friend who thinks all democrats are evil. I want to print this out in text and have him read it not knowing who it is. 2nd, it makes me think of something great. Clinton and Kennedy, two men I just love listening to. The VIGOR!! The stamina they had. The world usually takes this type of person away from the people who actually care. The dream of living with leaders like them I feel is almost lost.
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And to JackKnife, I agree that the video is unwise in this. Some of the pictures may not match up with Kennedy's idea, it's risky. But more importantly; I like to avoid video's like this because My sole intention is to convince those who are ignorant and can see NO flaw whatsoever in Bush that maybe they do not understand what the U.S. is supposed to stand for. We need to save ourselves from this terrible course of events; but will we? I try everyday just to convince others into just maybe accepting another idea. Videos like this seem to radical to many. They don't help the cause. There is such a thing as bad behavior. If bush had made a video against democrats using imagery to the same effect(though I think it would be hard) the same who enjoy the video part of this file would criticize him for it. There is a thing called behavior. Kennedy didn't seem far too radical or anything of the sort in the audio. He was BRILLIANT. Nothing less. He was being that politician that America needed and probably still needs.
For those that hate the U.S. There is much good here, but where there is good there will also be bad... Bush is nothing like Kennedy obviously. But to hate America for Bush when many doubt he was really even elected isn't giving any credit to the millions who voted against him or at least have come to the truth.
The internet is new and starting to become a teenager. With this new and powerful tool, you hear idiots as loud as the intelligent many times and this may take America farther away from a time that people used reason. It may do the opposite. But with the way things are looking with how many actually still love Bush, I worry that it won't be for good. America will always be divided. One side pissing off another. Now we've taken it to the world which is pure stupidity. Heaven help us. Point being that with the internet more publicity to everything. I truly believe that behavior is getting lost. Name calling rather than intelligent criticism etc. The video does have some truth in it. But Kennedy's words are better off alone than with this video.
Now I know I've rambled and it may seem a little bouncy as to where I'm headed with it, I apologize. Not much time, with many ideas. - Gman1223, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Dude, shut your ***** pie hole. You give your country a bad name (Canada?) for saying that you pig *****. Grow up.
P.S. Do what my icon says :) - littlebylittle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2What is Rice going to some kind of Nazi Black Mass at 4:52? Nice boots!
- rgov, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Cojawfree: Your insightful comment brought a tear to my eye.
- ChileanGoD, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@Beyond31 Your comments belong in break.com. Go there and you will find a lot of people that think just like you.
- mdnash, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3its amazing...a president is assasinated and all is forgiven. why is kennedy romanticized so? the man formed an army that he had direct control over (green berets)...he laid the groundwork for any president we have today. its to early for evidence. just check wikipedia
- Ystig, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2As much as it may seem farcical at first, personally, I think the choice of images is very worthy . It reminds me of the political imagery which George Orwell chose in his authorship of Nineteen Eighty-Four. Not merely of the tyranny of the enemy (in Orwell's case, Stalinism and Naziism alike, different as they were). And not merely of domestic governance and society (in Orwell's case, Chamberlain and Churchill alike, different as they were). But rather, as a whole, of how domestic governance and society threatens to impose upon the free world the shackles of tyranny, as a purported defence against tyranny itself. This will always be a worthy commentary. It need not be a commentary specifically on American governance of today, because it is a commentary on all governance, national, subnational or otherwise, for all time.
- CzechRebel, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@ starlord1
You seem to be mixing up genuine controversies with paranoid rants. I don’t know who shot JFK, but everything someone puts out a defense of the Warren Report it seems lamer and lamer.
When it comes to Lincoln you are in a different league altogether, as John Wilkes Booth was certainly not any “half-baked loon.” Had the Confederacy succeed, or had Booth merely failed to assassinate Lincoln he would have had a place in history as a great humanitarian, as the man who save so many lives by smuggling medical supplies and equipment to Confederate hospitals.
Of course, Israel was created for Jewish refugees.
It is fairly obvious that 9-11 was done by the terrorist who claim credit for it. However, many of us knew something was coming. In fact, many of knew that the government knew something was coming. “How?” you ask. Elementary my dear starlord1 when I saw a poster for a film entitled “Pearl Harbor,” I knew something was coming. It seems that the US Navy had given the film’s creators many millions of dollars in use of Navy ships and personal for a mere million from the filmmakers. But, so the wacko factor won’t try to blame Bush, that film was made on Clinton’s watch. I am sure that there are people on Digg who had the same experience. To sum it up what we were wondering: “Why would the government subsidize a film on the Pearl Harbor Attack and US retaliation unless they were expected an other attack in the near future.”
The moon landings were probably real. Those who deny it do make some good arguments, but there were just too many people involved. To do a Capricorn-I-style con-job on the public would have been a greater feat than getting to the moon.
I don’t know what to think of Princess Diana. Maybe it is just an example of the power of prayer. You know those Brits and their “God Save the Queen” song. So, maybe it was Divine Intervention. Maybe it was a conspiracy. Maybe you are right; it was a tragic accident. They all seem equally as likely.
Elvis most likely died, as you suggest. However, he certainly had a motive to fake his own death and assume a new identity. The fact that he was only 40 at the time also lends credibility to rumors.
I will give you about a 90-95% certainly on Hitler’s death. However, he did have a few doubles. The dead body of one of his doubles fooled nearly half of the people who actually knew Hitler. So, I will never be 100% sure.
Is there some point to your complete gullibility to the party line? There was a time when: doctors recommended smoking to help their patients relax; drivers relied on “being thrown clean of the wreck” to survive deadly accidents; and even a time when everyone KNEW that the world was flat.
So, keep an open mind on some subjects. Today’s “facts” may well be tomorrow’s myths. - JonForTheWin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@schroduggity
I think the sky is blue sometimes. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4What could be more American than leftist paranoia?
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