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- freedomjoe, on 04/02/2009, -8/+65They're terrified that lawyers who uphold the constitution will take over their fundy filled, corrupt partisan attack vehicle, our JUSTICE DEPARTMENT.
- thejimmyo, on 04/02/2009, -7/+61The New York Post printed this letter from the organizer of the event at Yale, and she calls out The New York Post for its earlier story:
"I was the organizer of the Yale Club of Greenwich event on March 13, which Meghan Clyne references.
The account given by Steve Stein of Dean Koh's comments is totally fictitious and inaccurate. I was in the room with my husband and several fellow alumni, and we are all adamant that Koh never said or suggested that sharia law could be used to govern cases in US courts.
The subject of his talk was Globalization and Yale Law School, so, of course, other forms of law were mentioned. But never did Koh state or suggest that other forms of law should govern or dictate the American legal system.
Hopefully, your readers are interested in the facts.
Robin Reeves Zorthian
President
Yale Alumni Association of Greenwich
Greenwich, Conn."
http://www.nypost.com/seven/04012009/postopinion/l ... - therebis, on 04/02/2009, -12/+66The right wing witch hunt continues. Truth? Justice? They are just words without meaning to the right wing.
- jleopold, on 04/02/2009, -6/+59Republicans are also threatening to filibuster Dawn Johnsen, Obama's pick to head the DOJ's Office of Legal Counsel, where John Yoo used to work
- sarahlee, on 04/02/2009, -5/+40They don't want anyone in place to go after the dirtbags and corruption folks like Ken Salazar are uncovering.
http://digg.com/political_opinion/Obama_s_Sheriff_ ... - TorDrowae, on 04/02/2009, -1/+34This part of the story is especially disappointing. A person who is in a position to confirm or deny the truth of the accusation denies it's true, and people repeat the false accusation anyway.
- meantime, on 04/02/2009, -10/+32No surprise here
Fox News = Rupert Murdoch = New York Post - thejimmyo, on 04/02/2009, -2/+20Remember this?
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/59600.html
Also, Koh was nominated to the State Department. - novenator, on 04/02/2009, -4/+20filibusters have SKYROCKETED since the Republicans became the minority, especially since Obama became president.
- MaxxusFlamus, on 04/02/2009, -6/+21I'm surprised they haven't accused him of being a communist spy for the north koreans because of his slanty eyes.
- kingmanic, on 04/02/2009, -1/+15If being overweight hurts your credibility then few Americans are credible?
- Hetman, on 04/02/2009, -4/+18I think that it is funny that the Republicans wanted to get rid of the filibuster and now they are using twice as much if not more than the dems.
- Vaiper, on 04/02/2009, -2/+15Why so angry?
- mgraham80, on 04/02/2009, -5/+17I am Koh.
/spartacus - Dumbledorito, on 04/02/2009, -1/+12The GOP are trying to kill this nomination based on what someone alleged the nominee said once during a Yale club speech. Not on the man's actual record or anything like that, but a comment that has been fictitiously portrayed as advocating Shari'a law for the United States. How is that not news?
- RatatRatR, on 04/02/2009, -1/+10You're still making reference to "Bush Derangement Syndrome"? Really?
- zip000, on 04/03/2009, -7/+15I'm surprised the Right cares. They pretty much want Sharia law anyway - they just want it with a more "Christian" sounding name.
- deathweaver108, on 04/02/2009, -1/+8Let them filibuster
Let them stand up in front of the cameras and talk for hours about how they aren't supporting this very popular president - razor150, on 04/02/2009, -4/+11They're just trying to protect Bush, because these people tore apart his lawyers for their idiotic opinions. They'll continue make ***** up to do it too.
- Insightful, on 04/02/2009, -1/+7Limbaugh must be the least credible person on the radio by that logic.
Well, the logic is not true but Limbaugh is a big fat idiot. - Hypatia42, on 04/03/2009, -2/+8The Republicans are threatening to filibuster Obama's appointments. The courtesy of open-debate and up/down votes in Congress will only occur if Congress members are shown the American public will not buy into petty, false gossip campaigns against professionals.
If politicans think they can secure future elections or sway public opinion by slowing the nomination process, they will. The democratic party is trying to remain active in order to preserve the momentum of the administration. Strategy 101... from both sides. - freedomjoe, on 04/03/2009, -1/+7I not only remember that, I followed it really closely and it has haunted me ever since. Inspector Fine first found them guilty of that last summer -- and then all summer bits and pieces were coming out about just how illegal the Bush DoJ was. You can download the entire investigation by Fine;; it's really enlightening.
It was horrific. They literally vetted people by their religious beliefs (fundy christians only) and being ultra ultra hard right conservatives. You know they can't fire those asshats? and some of the political appointees who were supposed to quit when the new admin came have refused to leave -- and as an example of the damage they are doing, they're prosecuting that guy who made false bids on public land in an effort to save it for the environment the Bush admin put up for sale. so now a holdover US attorney is prosecuting that guy. he did us a favor and protected our land.
thanks for the the reminder re state dept:-) - Gemfinder, on 04/03/2009, -1/+7This whole fah-foo-rah is straight-up, untrammeled ludicrousness.
Sharia law as it's understood and practiced would violate at least two Constitutional Amendments (separation of church/state, cruel and unusual punishment). Every lawyer worth their salt would slap it down so fast your hair would curl and fall out. And I'd probably be among the first to throw out a hue and cry.
Second of all, President Obama was a Constitutional Law professor. If Koh pulled anything like that, he'd probably be leading the pack to kill it. Remember that death-glare he gave VP Biden when he stepped out of line? He's got his own cabinet on a shorter leash than any of us would put on 'em. - hawkeye17, on 04/02/2009, -7/+13Fear and smear is all the Right Wing has. It's kinda pathetic actually and absolutely childish. "Repeat a lie often enough and people will begin to believe it's true." Goebbels. The Right Wing in America takes that quote to heart and does damage to the country in the process.
- novenator, on 04/03/2009, -1/+7I think its funny that you think Hetman was insinuating that they were filibustering to prevent appointments by the executive branch when he clearly never implied that anywhere in his post.
- novenator, on 04/03/2009, -2/+8The left were the only voices of reason during the disastrous reign of King George. The right certainly wasn't doing anything about it, well, except calling us traitors, telling us "if you don't like it, GTFO", encouraging deregulation, saying we need to support our president in a time of war, claiming throughout that Saddam really *did* have WMDs, and reasoning that domestic espionage was OK as long as you didn't have anything to hide.
- ShavedBusch, on 04/02/2009, -1/+6I guess that's what happens when you watch a handful of ***** idiots destroy your country and disregard your rights for 8 years. You tend to get annoyed at them.
But no, your right, we shouldn't have an opinion on their actions while they were leading our country. - novenator, on 04/03/2009, -1/+6comments that follow the format of the one before them = unimaginative
- zip000, on 04/03/2009, -0/+5You're the one bringing up Bush.
- ViperStrike05, on 04/02/2009, -6/+10Facebook Group in support of Koh
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=61354015962 - Alheithinn, on 04/03/2009, -1/+5taibo, rbiii, when the Republicans fussed about Democrat filibustering they were ignoring the fact that they had done the same thing under Clinton. That point needs to be made and remembered.
- ramilehti, on 04/03/2009, -0/+3That would be racism and frowned upon.
However accuse him of supporting a fundamentalist islamic law and it's OK.
The double standard is THE standard of the US. - inactive, on 04/03/2009, -1/+4This from the ***** who thinks Obama is a socialist muslim who was born in Kenya. Ignore this cockbag.
- novenator, on 04/03/2009, -1/+4feel free to go to Rigg anytime you want. A bunch of conservapedia, WND nuts over there. You would probably fit right in.
- novenator, on 04/03/2009, -1/+3Thx, joined up.
- inactive, on 04/03/2009, -2/+4Why are you guys digging this down? He's correct. Koh thinks that we should submit ourselves to the laws in other countries. How despicable. Can I vote for lawmakers in other countries? Then they should have zero to say about our laws.
It would be unconstitutional. Remember, half the world lives under bloody dictatorships. Do you want them telling you what to do? - theOster, on 04/02/2009, -4/+5you lost me at "the New York Post printed"...
- LastVisibleDog, on 04/06/2009, -0/+1So the left can dish it out - but they cannot take it.
No surprise here.
novenator - your knowledge of history comes straight from the anus of the left. get out of your Mom's basement and get your information from a source other that the anal excretions of the far left. - LastVisibleDog, on 04/06/2009, -0/+1Paybacks are hell.
Hell the Democrats refused to allow Bush some nominees to come up for vote.
Now for the truth - the filibuster talk comes from unnamed sources in left-wing spin - oops. - Hypatia42, on 04/03/2009, -1/+2Sharia, as proposed by St. Augustine?
- rayen99, on 04/03/2009, -4/+5So much mudslinging, not much talk about Koh's beliefs. I did a quick search on google books. There's quite a bit of his writing online. Here's a sample from "Recueil Des Cours", 1996.
"As I have summarized in these lectures, the Court's 'transnational' jurisprudence has had four core premises. First, it has accepted the collapse of the traditional distinctions between private and public, domestic and international law in favour of a transnational vision of law that percolates from the realm of the private into the public sphere and generates rules that can be internalized into domestic legal systems. By so doing, the transnational vision recognizes that 'international law is part of United States law'. This is so not just in the public realm, but also in the private realm."
"over the past few decades, the Court has treated sovereignty with respectful, but not blind, deference. The Court must now be aware that if its rulings are insufficiently respectful of national sovereignty, those rulings 'are not necessarily the final word on questions of international law'. Thus, United States Supreme Court rulings can be subsequently analysed in other national courts, as well as subjected to review before World Trade Organization panels (as in the Helms-Burton Affair), challenged before an array of international fora, and otherwise tested for their correctness under international law."
Unfortunantly ther's a lot of pages missing from Google books, and he is simply commenting on transnationalist ideas, not necessarily agreeing with them. But the section about international law being part of US law in not just the public but also the private realm doesn't make me feel "warm and fuzzy". - BrutePhysics, on 04/03/2009, -2/+3"Koh also has long held that the U.S. should accept international law when deliberating cases at home."
Key word here... INTERNATIONAL.
Sharia law is NOT international. True international law would be a law that a body consisting of multiple nations decided to allow. Sharia law is law system used in only a few countries and ONLY within the borders of those countries. No other countries have agreed to abide by that set of laws and therefore they are not truly international.
We should accept international law when it comes to deliberating our cases. In the same way that other countries should. Here is an example:
Lets say that a country (call it country A) is part of a body of many countries who all agree to follow the law "Don't murder children". In that case, when dealing with a murder case inside it's borders, the law "Don't murder children" applies because the country has already agreed to follow it.
If country B has a law within it's borders that says "Wear hats on mondays", country A is not required to abide by that law because it was not agreed upon by the international body..
Have I explained enough? - repins, on 04/03/2009, -3/+3@novenator Obama voted for that very same domestic espionage and to contiue the Patriot Act, do not forget that.
- inactive, on 04/03/2009, -2/+1These are two separate reasons to reject Koh.
Koh is unconstitutionally in favor of bending U.S. law to international law AND he's made comments that seem to say he's open to using sharia law in some circumstances.
He stinks in two departments.
Have I explained enough? - RatatRatR, on 04/03/2009, -1/+0Ooh, now "libtards." I'd love to keep talking to you, but... No, I actually wouldn't.
- inactive, on 04/03/2009, -8/+5"Koh also has long held that the U.S. should accept international law when deliberating cases at home."
That's unconstitutional. Just because a guy is an expert on the Constitution doesn't mean he believes in it. And clearly, just like Obama, he does not. - repins, on 04/02/2009, -8/+4This guy said we should judge the US Constition based on the laws of other countries. That is a load of crap! plain and simple. It is not about protecting Bush, it is about protecting the Rights of the American People and limiting the power of the Federal Government.
- LastVisibleDog, on 04/03/2009, -6/+1comments like that = sock-puppet
- taibo, on 04/02/2009, -6/+0Just because someone commits a wrong, doesn't give you the right to commit the same wrong.
- LastVisibleDog, on 04/03/2009, -9/+3If Koh is a good guy then this stuff will pass - protesting even looking into the claims is way-over-the-top Brownshirt behavior
The Democrats doth protest too much, methinks -
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