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- shinythings, on 01/15/2009, -7/+113Seriously, its time to stop wasting tax dollars on fighting Marijuana. Legalize it and start taxing the F^%& out it!
- Talphin, on 01/15/2009, -5/+61Stop the tyranny! Legalize!
- Diggrock, on 01/16/2009, -2/+42In the suburb where I live, there's a ***** weed monopoly by the local gang. They charge ridiculous prices and treat you like ***** and it sucks. So basically, instead of my money going to the government to fund schools, healthcare etc., it goes to these guys, so they can buy more guns and cars. LEGALIZE!
- Frankyfan3, on 01/16/2009, -4/+42“The greatest service which can be rendered any country is to add a useful plant to its culture." -Thomas Jefferson
- Linguo, on 01/16/2009, -3/+37This is obvious. We need money. This is the easiest way to create jobs and get taxes.
- Garofoli, on 01/16/2009, -0/+33Whoa there, we don't want them taxing the "F^%&" out of it... Some taxation is fine...
- inactive, on 01/15/2009, -3/+32Neglected revenue source for ALL states, and taxes why pay them? Social services don't take care of me, and the government could care less about the good of the people, as is evident with prohibition....
- 48snickers, on 01/16/2009, -0/+28The existence of Budweiser hasn't stamped out micro brews. In fact, the diversity of the beer market seems like it has never been richer. Wouldn't the Marijuana market be similar?
- Frankyfan3, on 01/16/2009, -2/+26Thank you for your sound advice, Mr Anslinger.
Apparently all of the non-smoking supporters of abolishing prohibition were a figment of my imagination... or perhaps you're stance is ethically unsound.
Prohibition of alcohol seemed like it was a good idea, but after 13 years of mob murders and government corruption, the good was outweighed dramatically by the bad.
75 years for cannabis so far.... and too many people in power are making huge profits on the backs of nonviolent citizens to make legalization feasible, huh?
Hemp, the non psycho-active strain of cannabis is still illegal to grow here.
We used it for our sails and ropes during the revolution, and even during WW2 (See Hemp for Victory from the department of agriculture) but it's illegal now because it's too close in appearance to a competition for alcohol & big pharma.
Get of your high-horse.
Your comment was the embodiment of ignorance on the issue. - inactive, on 01/16/2009, -9/+31"President- Elect Obama does not support marijuana legalization"
Do not pass go. Do not collect $200. - 7yler, on 01/16/2009, -5/+27Marijuana is a civil right.
- JenniferInMO, on 01/16/2009, -1/+22Well then, we'll have to make our voices louder, won't we?
Check out these organizations: http://www.leap.cc/cms/index.php and http://www.mpp.org/ - EvilJon, on 01/16/2009, -0/+19I'd take Wal-Mart pot over risk of jail any day.
Plus, let's be serious. Making pot legal is likely only going to increase quality (and decrease price - it's practically free to grow). - kemp34, on 01/16/2009, -0/+19So that means shut up about it?
Don't think so. - cremaster6, on 01/16/2009, -2/+20I gladly pay sales tax on the medical marijuana I buy in CA.
- lamejoketeller, on 01/16/2009, -0/+17how long does such a large portion of the population need to be unwaveringly in favor of drug law reform before the government gets over its Red-Scare-Status phobia of harmless drugs?
- NinaOdell, on 01/16/2009, -0/+16How many folks do you know grow their own tobacco or make their own liquor?
- BCPneumatics, on 01/16/2009, -1/+16And living in Ca I can say it's some seriously good crop too. Most of the country would eat it up. (The same way all US tobacco comes from the regions that can grow high quality plants.)
- andronmon, on 01/16/2009, -1/+15Isn't the wal-mart effect more a problem of capitalism than legalization? I don't see a problem in taxing pot. The state is hurting for money and I am all for buying taxed weed if that means we don't have to cut funding for education and health care.
I seriously doubt the local economy would fail especially if they are bringing in millions.
Personally I think there needs to be more competition because I am tired of buying weed at 60 an eighth. Some of you might get it cheaper, but it's hard to find a new guy since they don't exactly advertise. - JenniferInMO, on 01/16/2009, -2/+16@nolibertarian:
Why the name calling? Why the hostility? Instead of looking at this issue irrationally why not check it out for yourself?
There is no reason to continue on with the failed "War on Drugs" because it isn't working: http://digg.com/politics/How_America_Lost_the_War_ ...
The immediate and direct savings of stopping the stupidity are billions per year: http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/index.html
And contrary to your belief most people who favor legalization do not smoke pot (although many have in the past): http://www.leap.cc/cms/index.php (this group alone consists of 10,000 members of law enforcement who actively work to end the "War on Drugs")
And I'm a big advocate and I don't do drugs. - NinaOdell, on 01/16/2009, -1/+14This is more than a revenue issue, it's a health issue. If doctors could freely prescribe marijuana, I guarantee you that overall prescription drugs costs would fall.
The idea that the price would come way down comes from folks who haven't tried to grow high quality cannabis. It's as labor intensive as any other crop.
"Everyone would grow it" is simply not true, or at least it's no truer than folks brewing their own beer or growing their own tobacco.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_cannabis - xprojects, on 01/16/2009, -2/+14Another reason to continue ranting that Ron Paul would have made a better president?
Mr. Obama also supports unconstitutional wire-tapping, unprovoked war, and Israel. - dreicher, on 01/16/2009, -0/+11Thank you for being the voice of reason. Markup on marijuana right now is ridiculous because of the risk involve and relatively small supply. Take away the risks and increase supply and $13.8B (pulled out of somewhere) would be much closer to $2-$3B in revenue.
Not to mention, we're just shuffling money around at that point. That $13.8B does go back into the economy, it already creates "jobs", etc.
Stop compromising. Make it legal because it SHOULD be legal - not because nanny government sees it as a new opportunity to get their greedy fingers in another area of your life and you'll give up anything to have the "right" to use a plant in the way you see fit. - kemp34, on 01/16/2009, -2/+13Prohibition = organized crime
NoLibertarians supports organized crime. - emjaymj, on 01/16/2009, -0/+11The fact that you don't know who Anslinger is shows you're not qualified to so much as comment on the War on Drugs.
However, saying that the "Potheads are are trying to use the economic crisis to get their fix legalized just shows a complete lack of intelligence. I, and I'm sure many other who support legalization, are not potheads at all. I'll admit to trying it, but I've had nothing but bad experiences with it and haven't used it for ages. So I clearly don't have any interest in getting a "fix." So what's your rationale here?
The War on Drugs is wasting huge amounts of taxpayer money, ruining the lives of non-violent "criminals," and our little experiment with prohibition (not to mention LOGIC, but that's clearly not your strong suit) indicates that it's almost entirely responsible for gangs and related violence. The fact that it's an affront to personal responsibility alone should be enough reason for it to be legal, but there's a whole lot of benefit for society too.
Conversely, the only reason for keeping it illegal is that some people regard it as morally wrong. So no, these aren't potheads "trying to use the economic crisis to get their fix legalized," these are just ordinary, disenfranchised people, some users and others not, crying out for a little common sense. - KrisfromFlorida, on 01/16/2009, -1/+11I say why not give it a try California ? These tough economical times require some non-conventional ways to get the budget balanced .
Put it on a ballot and let the people decide it ! - alapoet, on 01/16/2009, -3/+13@NoLibertarians
http://www.erowid.org/culture/characters/anslinger ... - inactive, on 01/16/2009, -1/+10 If it's legalized people are not going to keep paying the ridiculous prices they do now so all of the figures are way off.
It's a weed and grows anywhere, it should sell for 50 bucks and ounce legal, if that. - Joodtimes, on 01/16/2009, -0/+9Canadians have been barking up that tree for years. Particularly British Columbia...and our governments haven't been too responsive. I imagine the American government and their "Drug Czar" would be even less receptive.
- fightingforair, on 01/16/2009, -2/+10No no no, lets not tax it. Politicians want the deficit to continue. They don't want to explore the option of stopping all this hardship on citizens.
Politicians like it when people suffer obviously, because they ignore easy solutions like this. - inactive, on 01/16/2009, -2/+10I'm sure the collapsed nasal cavity and perma-paranoia will suit you just perfectly
- Frankyfan3, on 01/16/2009, -3/+11.... and your point is... what?
That xenophobia supports a continued criminalization of cultivating a very useful and popular plant, simply to get foreigners out of the country?
Harry Anslinger would have loved you. - JenniferInMO, on 01/16/2009, -0/+8He ignored our question. I will ignore the answer. We need to send a louder message. I don't expect him to legalize, but it would be a huge move forward if the "Drug Czar" was tasked with allowing a public debate, real science and an honest look at what works and what actually harms us all.
- rmarler85, on 01/16/2009, -0/+7You need a new dealer
- xprojects, on 01/16/2009, -0/+7@NoLibertarians: In case you haven't noticed you're in a thread of people discussing, openly, the use of cannabis on an extremely popular internet site, one that is very often promoting news stories of legalization. "Most" are for it. Polls across the country are slowly moving from "keep it criminalized, think of the children" to "hell, yes, legalize it, we thought about the children and we're sick of the crimes of prohibition."
The very fact that this is an open discussion mostly in favor should show you that your ideals and principles are past their prime and that the rest of the world is moving on with or without you, and that legalization is slowly happening.
If you were here in Massachusetts with me I would gladly wave a bag of weed in front of your face right in front of the police station. - emjaymj, on 01/16/2009, -0/+7Snorting coke is for kids too.
Shoot it up like an adult. - perryc, on 01/15/2009, -7/+14I love Mari.
- fightingforair, on 01/16/2009, -0/+7I disagree. Like cigars and wine there will be specialty brands and areas of higher quality.
Of course, there will be Wal-Mart brands, but like Specialty stores there will be your Dominican's and your Fine Port wines that are only available at those small shops that know there way around pot. - gonzap1, on 01/16/2009, -1/+8Nolib is a douche..he loves big government and hates logic...
- erasedgod, on 01/16/2009, -1/+8NoLib, if you had a bowl, you might be able to find something more fun to do than trolling Digg all day.
Just a suggestion. - hadees, on 01/16/2009, -1/+8@NoLibertarians, You really think Marijuana is a hard drug? Alcohol causes way more problems then all illegal drugs combined. I'm not saying you have to legalize everything but if Alcohol is the line in the sand weed falls on the side of cigarettes and caffeine not crank and heroin.
- dacris, on 01/16/2009, -0/+6Marijuana is no worse than alcohol or tobacco, so why is it treated so differently in terms of laws? This is the one thing that truly demonstrates the degree of disenfranchisement of the American people by their own government.
- Frankyfan3, on 01/16/2009, -0/+6@NoLibs
You have about as much credibility to speak on the issue of prohibition as I have credibility to speak on theoretical physics.
And I can't do long division without a pen & paper. - emjaymj, on 01/16/2009, -0/+6No, but in all seriousness, those problems are pretty confined to excessive use. I mean, you wouldn't tell a stranger their liver is going to be seriously damaged just because they ordered a wine with their dinner. That's because most people use it responsibly, even though many don't. Anybody with a bit of experience in the world that the key to enjoying their vices is keeping it in moderation. I'm not endorsing coke use in the slightest, but I know at least a dozen people who use cocaine and it hasn't become a problem them for any of them. The same can be said for most drugs, but I don't really associate with the kind of people who use meth and crack in the first place.
- Reddog_x2000, on 01/16/2009, -2/+8This is what so ***** frustrating about the mess our country is in. WE KNOW THE ***** ANSWERS TO MOST OF OUR PROBLEMS.
- starmanfalls, on 01/16/2009, -1/+7Ha Ha Franky kicked your stupid ass all over the place. I have read your posts on other subjects. And dugg you up a few times. But on this issue you are soo damn wrong I am wondering what is your problem with weed. You bought the propaganda hook line and sinker. Bummer for you. And there are no hippies anymore.!!
- hadees, on 01/16/2009, -0/+6@NoLibertarians
I don't think anytime soon weed will be legal all across the United States, but in a lot of states currently small amounts is no worse then a parking ticket. I can see a day in the not to far future when weed is decriminalized federally and states make up their own mind like they do on gambling and prostitution. Plus the sheer cost of it will come into question in tight finical times like this where state governments are having to going to the feds for money. Decriminalizing marijuana would save a small fortune and free up a lot of cops so I think that makes a strong case. There definitely will be opposition but ultimately i think a lot of tough budgetary items will need to cut. I think the same goes for more liberal programs too. We can't spend like drunk sailors forever. - JenniferInMO, on 01/16/2009, -2/+8@nolib: please name some of those "other costs," just a few. In fact, how about one or two with a source instead of just throwing out nonsense?
- xprojects, on 01/16/2009, -1/+7@NoLibertarians: I totally respect your right to hold your opinion, but there's no facts regarding legalization of weed because it hasn't been done yet... at least not here in the U.S.
In any event, why are you so against it? You clearly think pot is a big danger but I don't understand why. Even if you have some research or something to support that it's "hazardous" to your health, it's not killing anyone and does less damage than alcohol. Drunk people have zero control, I think we can agree on that much, high people on the other hand usually do in comparison... What about countries where it's legal? They're not falling apart, and their crime is low. Why ignore that?
Just on a basic level I can understand not wanting to legalize it, but why are you so adamantly opposed? You seem really oppressive, do you mean to be or are you just fighting for what you think is right? - inactive, on 01/16/2009, -1/+7I'm not a wine, liquor, beer, or cigar connousieur, but I would love to be a pot snob and lecture people on the ins and outs of what real bud is once it's legalized.
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