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- AlmostEvil, on 10/11/2007, -2/+54I have heard some right-wing Americans compare Bush to Churchill.
As a citizen of the UK can I please ask any Americans who do this to please refrain from doing so, it's deeply insulting to not only Winston Churchill but also the UK as a whole.
In the UK Winston Churchill is regarded by many as one of the greatest wartime leaders in our history, he is also conversely regarded as among the worst peacetime leaders. While he could galvanize and lead our country during war he wasn't as great at peace time.
The only similarity between Churchill and Bush that I can see is that Bush was also something of a lameduck before 9/11. That's where the similarity ends. Churchill was a wonderfully eloquent public speaker, able to enunciate his point. Whereas Bush frankly, stumbles through his speeches.
Now, I could go on but i'd probably upset some people. So therefore i'll leave it at this:
Please stop comparing the two, there is pretty much nothing to compare the two and it's deeply insulting to the UK.
Thanks.. - yakimushi, on 10/11/2007, -1/+51I think we'll feel about Bush about as good as we feel about Nixon.
Yeah.. good 'ol Nixon. Love that guy... - Insightful, on 10/11/2007, -5/+47Talk about illusion of grandeur. White House can best described as an asylum.
- diggerydood, on 10/11/2007, -3/+32My wet dream is seeing those two idiots doing the "perp walk".
- Millsee, on 10/11/2007, -2/+26As a Brit, I'm so sorry for the decent Americans who have to live under this snivelling *****-pig.
- Fire4Effect, on 10/11/2007, -2/+25My wet dream would be to tell the Bush and Cheney how much I appreciate them in 20 years..through plate glass at some federal prison. Or better yet, an insane asylum.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -8/+23we'll see bush how history writes bush, which will be horrible propaganda. in a sane and enlightened world he will be seen as a mass murderering inbred puppet satanist dictator comparable to hitler
- lickmylovepump, on 10/11/2007, -7/+21My wet dream involves iranian women with no burkas.
- ElwoodHerring, on 10/11/2007, -1/+14It's not just a matter of eloquence. Churchill led us to victory in a war which was forced upon us. Bush is leading the U.S. into a humiliating defeat in a war which he started himself. Churchill is quite rightly remembered as a hero and great historical figure who pulled us through our darkest hour. Bush will go down in history as a warmongering buffoon who managed to turn almost the entire world against the U.S. Every time Bush mentions Churchill it makes me want to punch him in the face, and I have never hit another human being in my life.
I hope the name "Churchill" sticks in his throat and asphixiates him. - jmgoody311, on 10/11/2007, -1/+13This is the scariest thing I've seen today.
- shawnfassett, on 10/11/2007, -4/+15WHENEVER Sy Hersh speaks, we all need to listen. I heard him speak last year and he mentioned that several within the Administration are devout (Leo) Strauss(ians).
- brufleth, on 10/11/2007, -1/+12Doubtful. Nixon, while disgraced and more or less forced to resign, still holds a certain level of respect. Bush will probably be remembered for being the president who managed to divide the country and turn foreign allies against the US despite a terrible tragedy early in his first term which initially unified all parties towards a common goal.
- Waiting2awake, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11OK, lets see if I get this straight... You use a bit of violence and get a bit of opposition. You use more force, and create more enemies. You then use more force, and create even more enemies. Then you surge - and create yet more enemies bot at home and abroad now.... and you see this and say the solution is..... MORE violence?????
Buddy, I think you really need to re-examine your thought patterns. If a bit doesn't work, and more doesn't work, and even more doesn't work - then how in the name of goodness will more violence not just not work even more. - Trutholder, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11You took the words out of my mouth. i have been saying that for the past few weeks now. We have become a population of pussies, We need to take to the Streets. All we do is complain and bitch online but we never take any actions.
You Set the DATE, and ill be their standing next to you as we march and cause dissent in DC. - drewkinney, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10That would be 'delusions of grandeur'-BTW
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -2/+12I think people would rather rant from the PC than hit the streets of DC. What happens when 20 to 40 million men, woman and children
hit the streets of DC to bring their dissent to Congress and the President? The government has promised to test Non Lethal military weapons on large protest crowds, that's what. If that is what's stopping you, than Americans really are pussies. Hey I'm American. I'm in. Go ahead, microwave me. At least I didn't sit by while thugs rape me of my freedoms. - Waiting2awake, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10Ahhh you haven't heard anyone speak like that - THAT WAS A LIE!!! There isn't even a dictum in Farsi for him to say that even if he wanted too!!!! You are being lied to about Iran, the same way you were lied to about Iraq. For all that is good and holy and righteous - Please smarten up and don't buy the lie this time.
What he said was akin to saying "The Zionist regime in Jerusalem will be wiped from the pages of time" - further proof of this is his linking of South Africa and the U.S.S.R to the Israel. He was refering to the governing style of them - not the people.
But if you really want to find some answers - ask yourself this - why would someone who would know the difference(The initial reporter) claim something he didn't say - worse, why wouldn't anyone in your admin double check the information after getting so much wrong?? *Hint - it is to illicit your agreement, just like they did with Iraq. Please wake up before it is too late. - fractalman, on 10/11/2007, -2/+10The only clear cut way to prevent this from happening is to get congress off their asses, and force them to do their constitutional duty. Crimes have been committed by Bush and his administration, and congress has an obligation to move forward on impeachment proceedings. Please stop the insanity, contact your legislator today and make your voice heard. Demand action now!!!
- lithera, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8"At the time Iran has a nuclear weapon don't you think that would make them more of a legitimate target? If they ever launched anything in any direction"
This still isnt a valid argument to go to war with them. Dozens of countries have nuclear weapons, why would Iran be different then say... Israel, or China, or the UK? I haven't heard Adol... erm Bush complain about them yet..
"In the end, the US's real strength is in our technology and weaponry why would a second tier country like Iran want to go after us in an area where we are the stronges"
Yes, Iraq is a great succes too after all, so why not go after a country that actually has quite a brutal and *well functioning* army.
Ignorant fools... - Blimundus, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8Also, Churchill won the Nobel prize for peace, ánd the nobel prize for literature. I'm not sure which of those prizes Bush is more likely to win in the next twenty years...
- thewump, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8Really? Mine usually has chicks in it.
- Osjpr, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8I almost cracked up at seeing him mention Churchill as if they are even remotely similar. Then I realized he is serious and then it wasn't so funny.
- brufleth, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Well...Bush would probably not be able to read that sentence and there's a good chance he doesn't know where Delhi is.
- HillerMylife, on 07/24/2008, -1/+7International politics, for one. His trip to China was momentous.
- leszek, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6The US shouldn't have started this war !
- thewump, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Does contacting your legislator help? I truly see no way in the US today that "we the people" have ANY control over anything. It seems that all we can do is vote for candidates who are left or right, then they go and vote the party line. Ron Paul makes more sense every day.
- joe573, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5The only people I have heard comparing Bush to Churchill is Bush himself. The man is obviously delusional.
- sabach, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Oh no, here's your sign....
- tHePeOPle, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Maybe if they make a Nobel prize for douchebaggery, he'll have a fighting chance.
- epitaphic, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6Churchill referred to Mahatma Gandhi, as "a half-naked fakir" who "ought to be laid, bound hand and foot, at the gates of Delhi and then trampled on by an enormous elephant with the new viceroy seated on its back."
Certainly a lot more eloquent than Bush. - sullyj, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6It is going to take 20 years to forget all this administrations ***** ups.
- BevansDesign, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Come on, can we PLEASE get these idiots out of office BEFORE they start WWIII? By any means necessary?
- futurebird, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4We should have concentrated on catching the responsible parties instead of using 9/11 as an excuse to advance neo-con foreign policy objectives AND THEN it would have worked.
- edebolt, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5A better comparison would be Harry Truman. Immensely unpopular. Made a lot of changes to govt. NSA, CIA, NATO, Marshall Plan. Prosecuted an unpopular war in Korea (58K Americans dead). Spent the country underwater 110% GDP debt during Truman versus 60% Bush. Was a poor speaker with a simple vocabulary and now is considered a top 10 president by historians.
- leszek, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Ahmedinijad's never said that:
http://digg.com/politics/Wiped_off_the_Map_The_Rumor_of_the_Century_2
and they don't plan to have nuclear weapons. They just want nuclear energy.
But it doesn't matter because 90% of the US population doesn't know this and the US leaders want to make war to them for oil/power/money/..
If you want to reply saying that it is completely false and Iran --Obviously-- want nuclear weapons and are developing them, don't forget that the burden of proof is on you. Nobody has ever found a proof of nuclear weapon development in Iran. - sabach, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Yes, technically you're correct. Are you the kind of person who says "I don't get it" after the punch-line of a joke?
- williamdyer, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3i have NEVER heard a Republican, and I go to Republican fund raising events, compare Bush to Churchill. In fact, except for one-issue neocons, I can't find any Republicans that support the war.
- labmouse42, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Appreciate Bush in 20 years? I don't think so.
Maybe by then we would have forgotten about the thousands of Americans he killed in his war on Iraq. - DesuKN, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Yeah, I got it. You resent that reality has a 'liberal' bias.
- NonZionist, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Your little one-dimensional Left-Right universe is wildly at odds with reality. In the real world, mass murdering occurs BOTH on the "Left" (Clinton) AND on the "Right" (Bush), and vehement opposition to this mass-murdering can ALSO be found both on the "Left" (The Nation magazine) AND on the "Right" (The American Conservative).
Why, then, do you invest so much energy in this stupefying one-dimensional system? It seems like you are putting yourself on one side of an imaginary "Left-Right" see-saw, then demonizing the other side to boost your own self-esteem. If you were a little more honest with yourself, you would not need such transparent devices.
Like other neo-cons, you seem to live in a world where there are only two possibilities: one is either on the Top or on the Bottom, one is either the Master or the Slave, one is either Ubermenschen or Untermenschen.
Peace, for the neo-cons comes in only two forms: the Peace of the Slave and the Peace of the Grave. Obey or Die. If the people you seek to destroy have the same outlook, we are left with "Kill and be Killed" and "Might makes Right". That's not what I call living.
There is a third possibility that you do not seem to be aware of: CO-existence, middle status, participation in a community of EQUALS.
I invite you to make your escape! Once you get outside your ideological prison, once you experience the air and sunlight, you will find that the world is a complex place. It CANNOT be reduced to one dimension.
You will no longer need the Us-Them dynamic to feel good about yourself. You will discover reciprocity, mutual respect, the Golden Rule -- the elements of TRUE civilization. You will feel genuinely liberated.
In this way, the truth will set you free. - plhearn, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5As an American, I wish your leaders would quit supporting our president's bad decisions. Also, "*****-pig"? Is that British slang?
- scoobydoo84, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3@tomcpp
As long as we don't prop up more dictators in the middle east and give them wmd's to use on innocent people and then send Rummy to pat them on the back the Iraqi people won't be the victims of another genocide. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3one definition of insanity - doing the same thing OVER and OVER and expecting a different outcome
- futurebird, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4But Osama and the real villains are still out there, and a whole new generation is growing up with the USA as enemy #1 due to our stunning lack of diplomacy. Great job Bush!
- happyperson, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3If you remember rightly, with the years of hindsight we have on the Joseph McCarthy trials pretty much everybody realized that having an interest in differing political ideologies doesn't mean that you are a fruitcake who's every word should be discounted. Gather every opinion, every fact, and with a global sense of responsibility and morality make you own decisions and don't berate people for doing likewise.
- gbalon, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I was there! It was pretty funny to hear him say that, and probably true. Hersh is a very cynical guy, but he is brilliant. It was awesome to experience his speach
- 2k3john, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I'm not convinced the responsible parties were ever properly identified.
- 2k3john, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Is is a shame that you're dug down for speaking historically accurate facts. The problem with that though is that it only works from an objective standpoint. Toss around the subjective motivations that impel this administration down their chosen path and you come up with a very different picture from that of Admiral Nelson's famous 'Dam the torpedoes! Full speed ahead!" This administration is so tightly wrapped into the industrial military money-making complex that nobody involved can lose in the bottom line no matter what happens - and that bottom line is nothing more than money. The hell with the lives of our young solders. To hell with the lives of the innocents in Iraq. And to hell with the unforgivable mind-numbing carnage they commit. They don't care. This is a rapacious crew at their best and they are operating without any restraint and having the time of their lives. Don't you know that this entire country (including all of its people) is nothing more than a vast pool of expendable resources to be utilized in any way they choose towards their own personal gain?
Wake up. This country is broken when its leaders can start wars based on nothing more than the filth and lies they choose to propagate! - williamdyer, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Amnesty for illegals went down in flames. We can end the war, too.
- DocDEB, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3I've decided to never block liberalplacebo just so I can have the joy of burying his comments.
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