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- Charun, on 08/10/2008, -22/+168I would bet that those 15% was going to vote for a republican regardless.
- barcelona10, on 08/09/2008, -35/+119I donno about this article... it makes a few assumptions about the electorate. So, McCain and Obama are in a statistical dead heat perhaps because of racism. That's quite a statement! just because people wont vote for Obama doesn't mean they are racist.
- Armor1901, on 08/09/2008, -55/+13515 percent of Americans can rot in hell
- inactive, on 08/10/2008, -4/+83Is it that hard to give us some ***** details about the poll?
What age groups were polled?
(There is a big difference in political opinions between 18 year olds and 68 year olds)
Where did they live?
(It could be a "liberal" city like Seattle or a "conservative" city like Dallas)
How were they polled?
( Internet users seem to be more left leaning. If it was a telephone poll nobody under 30 would even bother to answer it.)
Until the media starts providing details like this, I will continue to call ***** on these retarded statistics. - ObamaWins08, on 08/10/2008, -18/+90I wonder how many black Americans will vote for Obama simply because he is black? Seriously...
I wouldn't blame them for it. I imagine that I would do the same thing if I were in their shoes... I would think it would be great to feel like someone more like me will be making decisions that effect me. - AmyVernon, on 08/10/2008, -12/+76But 85 percent would, then..
- EatingPie, on 08/10/2008, -14/+48The statistics questions this was based on is completely bogus.
"Would PEOPLE YOU KNOW not vote for a black person?"
That's 100% assumption right there in the answer, and yet the author of the piece calls this a "more accurate" view of the US electorate. Give me a break.
-Pie - mach32, on 08/10/2008, -21/+46about 98% of blacks won't vote for a white president this november.
- pr0phet491, on 08/10/2008, -8/+31Actually not all of them, my grandma is a huge democrat and refuses to vote for a "n*****" as she calls it...i hate that bitch :(
- fluoro, on 08/10/2008, -5/+28You wouldn't blame people for voting Obama just because he's black? Why? How is a racially-motivated vote in favor of a black guy somehow better than a racially-motivated vote against a black guy? Why does the someone "more like me" have to be like you because of skin color? Why can't we Americans pick someone who doesn't suck based on good policy? Obama and McCain both suck horribly in this area.
- cgbspender, on 08/10/2008, -10/+33Trying to guilt-trip people into voting for somebody is despicable.
I guess you'll find 15% will not vote for women, men, white people, Chinese, candidates younger than 70, demented old circusmonkeys, ...
If you vote for someone or want others to vote for you candidate, why not focus on the real issues instead of throwing superficial crap? That would be real change. - Marc39, on 08/10/2008, -48/+70Doesn't matter since most racists are Republicans who wouldn't vote for any Democrat, black or white.
- Khanvalescent, on 08/10/2008, -6/+25Typically this is why I voted for Republicans. Unfortunately our Grand Party has been crashed by the spendthrifts, interventionist hawks, and religious right.
I'm loathe to quote Michael Moore, but he wrote, "Democrats openly say they are going to ***** you, and Republicans say they aren't - but then they do."
Until the republican party returns to its fiscally conservative, small government, low tax roots, I'm going to vote for the guy who at least wants to end our Billion dollar expense called the Iraq War. - MacSuxWindozSux, on 08/10/2008, -18/+3715% of American's won't vote against a Black President.
My own assumption. - SwedishNinja, on 08/10/2008, -3/+20She's probably a pre-LBJ Democrat, back before the 1960s, the Democrats were staunchly racist, supported segregation, etc. No reason to hate her, she's just from a different time.
- B08ama, on 08/10/2008, -6/+23I don't think that you read the article.
- flink405, on 08/10/2008, -9/+25If 99% of black people vote for Obama does that mean they are racist?
Would one write a headline "In 2008, 99% of blacks won't vote for a white President"? - Ryan32, on 08/10/2008, -3/+19nedz your wrong.... Blacks were the ones selling other blacks into that system. Educate yourself.
Besides, I am behind any African American or any race that wants equality all around. I am completely against any race who thinks they deserve reparations for something that didn't happen in their lifetime.
Equality means equality, not "you owe us for what people with your skin color did to people with my skin color 75 years ago". - jesushchrist00, on 08/10/2008, -13/+28I want to know these numbers ... what percent:
- are voting for a guy BECAUSE he's black
- are voting for a guy but can't name one of his policies
- are voting for a guy because he promises 'change', is good looking, or is a good speaker
- support redistribution of wealth
- want to punish Big Oil companies like Exxon, even though they ONLY made 11 billion profit on 130 billion revenue while the government made 30 billion in taxes on that revenue already. - moulin1, on 08/10/2008, -6/+20I keep hearing "african americans vote democratic anyway so what difference does it make how many vote for Obama". What these commenters fail to account for is the record number of new voter registrations. Both african american and young voters were disenfranchised. They voted for no one in the past. In a presidential election a 5% margin is a landslide. But if these formerly disenfranchised, and now enthusiastic, voters make up, say 10% of the electorate that has never been counted before it is a whole new world.
- dupems, on 08/10/2008, -16/+29Most racists are Republicans... Yeah that's not a retarded generalization at all. I'm sure you wouldn't like it if someone said most societal parasites are democrats.
- vexingmodstwo, on 08/10/2008, -23/+36A very lame attempt to scare some Democrats into voting for Obama. Contrary to liberal opinion, Obama gives plenty of reason for people not to vote for him that don't include his race. This entire argument's premise is: "Obama is so great the only reason someone wouldn't vote for him is race." To that I say: "***** you"
- ryan83189, on 08/10/2008, -5/+18This poll sucks. It is rigged and worded to get the result they want. 5% != 15% The second poll was unscientific "They asked the same whites if most of the people they knew would vote for a black candidate. Nineteen percent said that those they knew would not." Everyone knows_that_guy and he is not exactly a slice of the modern demographic, many people were probably incorrect in their assumptions too, I know I was wrong about some people I know. Then to top the cake they state that 90% of black voters are voting for Obama, which is about the amount of those who are true democrats, this is true, but he fails to realize the HUGE amounts of turnout from the black community that did not vote before, they are finally proud of a candidate and feel like their vote counts. Obama is going to re draw election maps, polls like this mean little.
- solid12345, on 08/10/2008, -12/+24But black Americans voting for Obama just because he is black is not racist in itself either?
- brundlefly76, on 08/10/2008, -6/+18In this matter the point is moot because blacks largely vote democratic anyway.
Besides, voting for someone who best represents your interests isn't racist.
Personally although the article says that black voters tend to vote democratic anyway ignores a huge fact that I think this election will see unprecedented black *voter turnout*. - DeviateSeptum, on 08/10/2008, -4/+14"just because people wont vote for Obama doesn't mean they are racist."
This doesn't even come to play in the article. Nor would the author say this. Your reading comprehension is low. - credential101, on 08/10/2008, -3/+13I wonder what's the percentage of black Americans that won't vote for a white candidate if another major party candidate is black. I bet it's a lot higher than 15%.
- inactive, on 08/10/2008, -2/+12..........
-Tone
(lol..... oh yeah my name is to the left of my post) - Shoegaze99, on 08/10/2008, -1/+10You realize the 15% number was a guess by the columnist, not the actual results of the poll, right? Or did you not bother to read the actual piece and instead focused on the misleading headline?
- inactive, on 08/10/2008, -4/+1350% don't vote for a white president.
- Ajd9784, on 08/10/2008, -3/+12Ok to somewhat back up this article from my own personal experience. I was watching tv with my mother and a Pro McCain add was playing and of course I was rambling on about how he is a super moron. And this is what she says to me, no joke... "At least he looks like an American."
WHAT THE HELL IS THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN??
Blast all of the uninformed racist honkeys.
I mean I was shocked, my mother has never made any racist comments in her life until now?? WTF mate! - nedzeve, on 08/10/2008, -5/+14Well, if it's merely an assumption, then I doubt anyone would care.
But if it's your hypothesis, conduct a study, publish your findings and methodology, have it peer reviewed, and then perhaps people will listen to you.
In any event, the OP and perhaps yourself are mistaken about the NYT writer's assumptions. He bases his findings on polling data, and not assumptions. - inactive, on 08/10/2008, -0/+9But then they'd have to make real polls. Those cost money and don't sell well.
- datwunkid, on 08/10/2008, -4/+12Vegeta!, what do the polls say about his power level?
- inactive, on 08/10/2008, -7/+15Yeah, that's totally right, Mr. Benson. Obama wants us to LOSE THE IRAQ WAR! He HATES AMERICA! He'll STEAL YOUR MONEY!
Idiot. - gobbleplex, on 08/10/2008, -12/+20Since the white guy is a Republican, this is surprising how?
- insinuate, on 08/10/2008, -1/+9>9000!!!
- danthemanhan, on 08/10/2008, -3/+11check out this website. I was surfing, and came across this, and had to do a double take when i first read it, because i thought they were joking. i then started lurking, and it's appalling that these people find nothing wrong with what's being said. they have 140000 members. http://www.stormfront.org/forum/
- bejayel, on 08/10/2008, -2/+10they said that 89% of blacks plan to vote for obama, but it is not a big deal since 99% of those 89 voted democrat in the past anyway.
- Shoegaze99, on 08/10/2008, -0/+8Even your corrections are inaccurate. According to the poll in question, the accurate number is 5 percent. The 15 percent number was invented by the columnist; it's a number pulled out of the air so he could make a point, not the actual results of the poll. Zaibatsu, the person who wrote the Digg headline, either has poor reading comprehension or is trolling for controversy.
- ZenMojo, on 08/10/2008, -0/+7Actually, in 2004, Carol Moseley-Braun and Al Sharpton together couldn't pull even a quarter of the black vote in the Democratic Primaries. One thing's for sure, blacks don't vote their race.
- dafunkmonster, on 08/10/2008, -2/+9LOL you're going to get buried for being ignorant. Good job.
- SgtQuackers, on 08/10/2008, -0/+7On the other hand how many people are voting for him because he is black?
- seantubridy, on 08/11/2008, -0/+7"No reason to hate her, she's just from a different time."
Being old doesn't get you a free pass to be a racist. - kru1e, on 08/10/2008, -7/+14he's black?
- inactive, on 08/10/2008, -9/+16He's talking about the percentage of Americans that can rot in hell; he's included the ones that voted for Bush. I can't believe I had to explain that.
- insinuate, on 08/10/2008, -3/+10I love how you fox news watchers love to keep throwing in there how the guys middle name is Hussein.
Instead of trying to make America think he's related to Saddam, why not make a case against his proposed policies? Oh wait, that would take an actual thought process, sorry. - secrity, on 08/10/2008, -25/+32More like close to 50%; the ones who voted for Bush -- twice.
- nosecohn, on 08/10/2008, -4/+11The biggest fallacy about this article is that the race is a dead heat. That´s just a story that the media propagates to keep people tuned in. If we had a national direct democracy, it might be true, but given that we use the electoral college, the race doesn't look so close:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama ... - BrandonP63, on 08/10/2008, -0/+6haha ditto. you can't make up many news stories about what people REALLY think.
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