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- senorcool, on 10/12/2007, -51/+812Its like "Home Alone" but with a girl and illegal aliens...and shotguns.
- CBanga, on 10/12/2007, -45/+663I blame video games. St00pid Counter-Strike. Hopefully Jack Thompson will help sort this mess out.
- Pssdoff, on 10/12/2007, -60/+537If everyone had a 12 gauge Mossberg 500 shotgun and knew how to use it, how many criminals would be willing to break into houses?
- gharding, on 10/12/2007, -37/+326@phantombantam:
I doubt most 11-year-old girls can operate a shotgun. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -74/+344Girl Power!
- Niten, on 10/12/2007, -27/+273THIS IS FAKE
This story showed up on rec.guns a few days ago and was promptly debunked. The names are fabricated, and the home invasion never took place. I love my second amendment as much as anybody, but this was clearly just a fantasy piece on the part of some ultra-conservatives (*of course* the home invaders would be illegal aliens... sheesh). It probably just got passed around a few times, and somewhere along the lines the fact that it is fiction was lost. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -63/+277Wait .... Guns are supposed to always be bad ... what happened? This story can't be true. If it is true she should be arrested and put in jail for life. Those men had the right to be there!
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Shows how much you know about using a gun in an extremely stressful situation. Not to mention all the fear and adrenaline.
I have to say that she did a better job than most people I know. - jj9000, on 10/12/2007, -9/+187From the comments in the article:
"This is an "urban legend" and there doesn't seem to be any evidence to back up it up.
Raphael Resendez-Ramirez is the infamous "Railroad Killer" illegal alien / serial murderer. He eventually was captured.
Enrique Garza is a musician from Snyder, Texas whose 3 sons formed the band "Los Lonely Boys".
Patricia Harrington is an adult woman who writes children’s mystery books.
I can find no reference to David Burien.
The story has no author or news source listed. There is no date, time or address of where the incident took place. I would wager that this is an invented account. There's absolutely nothing on the web (aside from this verbatim account itself) to indicate this ever actually happened, or that anyone named Patricia Harrington ever was a champion clay-shooter anywhere. No news station, web site or paper has published this story.
Please prove me wrong by providing some verifiable facts or citations!
gfeldt posted on 2007-05-02 14:04:10 ET " - irvman21, on 10/12/2007, -27/+199Every time an 11 year old girl kills two illegal aliens breaking into her house an Angel gets its wings.
- norbiu, on 10/12/2007, -33/+168wow, she shot one of them in the balls. ouch!
- gb506, on 10/12/2007, -29/+160@ghandi69
You're a friggin idiot - if you RTFA you'd know that one of the perps had a .45 pistol on him that he'd stolen from another home, during which altercation the perp stabbed the 50y/o homeowner to death - with a knife - repeat - with a knife. How would your precious gun control have helped the homeowner there? Shove your gun control up your ass, this little girl did the planet a favor by blowing that dude's balls off. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -57/+188this is exactly what im talking about
children shouldnt have the ability to defend themselves against home invaders!
NO ONE SHOULD
everyone should be disarmed, take everyones guns, 11 year old girls should be completely defensless and at the mercy of criminals who will always have guns even if they are outlawed
protect illegal immigrant rights at all costs!
why do politicians get away with sending that message? - Otto, on 10/12/2007, -5/+126From what I can find, this sounds fake. The date I found on one copy of the article was November 11, 2006, but there's no reference to any of these names in the Montana Standard newspaper archives (online).
Here are some non-fake stories though:
The Times, Anchorage, AK, 1/15/92
State: AK
American Rifleman Issue: 4/1/1992
Only 11, a Talkeetna, Alaska, girl called on the firearms training her
mother had given her when someone broke into her home early one morning.
When she heard movement outside, then inside, the house, the girl got a
shotgun and yelled "I've got a loaded shotgun and if you don't get out of
here right now, I'm going to blow your head off!" The intruder took the
none-too-subtle hint and fled.
The Janesville Gazette, Janesville, WI, 3/24/99
State: WI
American Rifleman Issue: 6/1/1999
A 14-year-old Plymouth Township, Wisconsin, girl was getting ready for
school early one morning when she noticed a man peering inside through a
bedroom window. The frightened girl, whose parents had already left for
work, responded by retrieving a double-barrelled shotgun. That image was
apparently enough to send the man fleeing. The girl's father had set out
both the shotgun and a pistol for exactly such a contingency after she
reported seeing the same man the previous day.
The Herald-Citizen, Cookeville, TN, 6/13/96
State: TN
American Rifleman Issue: 10/1/1996
Despite the presence of her parents and a sheriff's deputy, a 15-year-old
Cookeville, Tennessee, teenager was still forced to defend herself from an
abusive ex-boyfriend. Confronted by the deputy and the girl's parents
outside of the family's residence, the young man broke free from the deputy,
jumped a fence, and kicked in the door of the house where the girl was
hiding. There the ex-boyfriend came at the girl to attack her as she held
the phone--with a 911 operator on the line--in one hand and a Ruger .44
Magnum in the other. A single fatal shot ended the attack.
The California, Bakersfield, CA, 9/21/92
State: CA
American Rifleman Issue: 1/1/1993
Two teenage girls were asleep at the one's Bakersfield, Calif., home when
two armed, masked men kicked their way in through the door, confronted the
young women and demanded money. When one man grabbed a wallet, one girl, a
guest in the home, grabbed a 9 mm and opened fire, mortally wounding one of
the invaders. The other escaped. Police said the girl would not face
charges. - mtaylor314, on 10/12/2007, -20/+139@ghandi
If you read the article, they just killed stabbed another man to death at another house and took his gun. I am pretty sure the kid might have had the same thing coming - WileEPeyote, on 10/12/2007, -29/+134It's not the aiming that is amazing. If you have ever fired a shotgun then you know there is TREMENDOUS kick, as a full-grown adult if you don't hold the weapon correctly you can cause yourself some injury (bruising mostly). That an 11 year old girl was able to fire twice and hit both times is amazing.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+109WTF is illegle?
- camiloteram, on 10/31/2007, -35/+135Where were the gun-laws to protect us when the criminals illegally got their weapon??
I'm just glad her dad had a readily available weapon and she was trained to use it. - PhantomBantam, on 10/12/2007, -98/+189I don't know much about guns, but I don't think you need to be a champion shooter to hit someone at point blank with a shotgun.
- opticsnake, on 10/12/2007, -28/+116@phantombantam
She didn't have to be an expert to make that shot but, how many 11-year olds do you know that are experienced enough with a mossberg to get it working right when they need to? - rebopper, on 10/12/2007, -16/+99The sound of a shotgun being cocked is the best alarm system ever.
- mrbeagle, on 10/12/2007, -17/+96This whole story is a hoax that has been circulating all over the internet.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=David%20Burien
Not one legitimate news source - they're all reposts of the same old B.S. Buried as right-wing gun nut propaganda. - goeatsmsht, on 10/12/2007, -49/+121LMFAO
Serves them right - nickbender, on 10/12/2007, -20/+86almost forgot...
i-l-l-e-g-a-l - jcblitz, on 10/12/2007, -4/+64I don't care about MSM, a police report is sufficient. But I don't want to be another person just forwarding along chain mails that I heard with no factual basis, I'd just like to be able to back it up with facts. This story doesn't mention any dates or places, there is nothing substantial in it besides a "feel good" message. The only specifics in this story (besides peoples names which I googled every one of them) is she used a mossberg 500. I'm not alone in wanting to find evidence before I start passing this along. http://www.tcftalk.com/clairefiles/index.php?PHPSESSID=af4e948fdddf8cfce7a3bfd34c1cac7f&topic=13891.0 for example I found while searching the peoples names.
- manixrock, on 10/12/2007, -15/+74Here's what a Mossberg 500 gun looks like: http://images.google.com/images?q=Mossberg+500
- nathron, on 10/12/2007, -2/+54In other news, the same 11 year old girl wrote the title for this article.
- PhantomBantam, on 10/12/2007, -10/+62At least they weren't 3 armed.
- rumor, on 10/12/2007, -18/+69@ghandi69 (#6470532)
uh they already murdered one person during a burglary, stabbed him to death and took his weapon, and then broke into her house with said weapon. think about it. it doesn't take a genius to figure out that they wouldn't have taken a second thought about killing someone. - nickbender, on 10/12/2007, -67/+118where's her NBC manifesto?
... too soon? - mutatron, on 10/12/2007, -62/+104I believe it's "Grrrrl Power!"
- imaclatchie, on 10/12/2007, -7/+48I only hope she's ok. Pulling on clay pigeons and killing a man (or two) are very different psychological events. Police and Military are trained to use weapons too, but their first kills can still be traumatic. What if you're 11? Heavy.
- LavaHot, on 10/12/2007, -25/+63@donut guy
Why do all DAs have to be corrupt? They can be incompetent, childish, vain, suggestible, and fat, and still not be corrupt. - jcblitz, on 10/12/2007, -17/+53Where is the source for this story? http://email sounds like a chain letter to me.
- jtoon, on 10/12/2007, -14/+49"Well ideally the gun laws would prevent the "illegally obtained" weapon from being left out at another house so easy to rob. Where do you think the tens of thousands of illegal hang guns come from? Space? They are sold by the companies that make them one way or another."
RTFA. They STABBED the 50-year old first. Should we ban all kitchen knives too? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+35I have submitted the link to Snopes.com. Hopefully they'll come up with something one way or the other soon. If they do, I'll post what they sent in this thread.
- The_Mule, on 10/12/2007, -8/+38I call shenanigans! This story seems a little too good to be true. White (presumably) all-American, gun-owning girl exercises her 2nd Amendment rights by killing two illegal alien murderers? The only other things this story is missing are a Bible and a reference to 9/11.
- oddmanout, on 10/12/2007, -5/+34what is the source of this article? it looks like a chain mail.... which are notoriously fake. It claims the source is "NRA Files" whats this?
- ScottyMo, on 10/12/2007, -18/+44@ilyag
While I agree that ending a life must be a hard thing to deal with, I would disagree about your statement of the mentality of those in battle, whether out in a "battlefield" or in your own home when someone engages you there. If I were in a "kill or be killed" situation, I would have far less trouble with it.
That is, of course, unless you are saying that the "he's going to kill you if you don't kill him first" is the kind of brainwashing that makes one side think that the other side is evil. Now, I could see someone being told that falsely, but there *are* cases where they will kill you if you don't stop them in any way that you can. - krispykremester, on 10/12/2007, -3/+28Home invasion gone wrong for [illegal] criminals??
I didn't know there could be LEGAL criminals!!! - SultanTravi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+27@jerful
You should know that linking to a series of news articles on gun deaths is a poor way to make a point.
But yes, this is FAKE. Please bury as inaccurate. - Mosatii, on 10/12/2007, -6/+30It's fake.
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.::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: - OldGuyCalif, on 10/12/2007, -8/+29The NRA is NOT a News Source
Without verification this is nothing but a politically motivated urban legend. - nepawoods, on 10/12/2007, -2/+23Anything about this story from a reliable news source? Even semi-reliable will do. Possibly conceivably reliable, sometimes, maybe.
- SpaceMonkeyZero, on 10/12/2007, -5/+26I'm kinda siding with jc on this.
As much as I want this to be true... I'd like to see a local newspaper mention of this. - Urusai, on 10/12/2007, -4/+24Some skinhead in Idaho is beating off to this story as we speak. As much as I hate gun control, this article stinks of fantasy. Look, blue-eyed Aryan girl from a whites-only state shoots dirty illegal Meskin beaner in the nuts!
- Nougat, on 10/12/2007, -3/+22@jcblitz (#6467055)
I just did a quick look around as well and found nothing but forum posts on this. I call shenanigans. - AzBats, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18http://blog.lewrockwell.com/ - retracted the previously posted story about the shotgun wielding 11yr old.
Start to undigg and begin burying - this story is fiction. -
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