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PS3 Price Drop causes a 2800% increase in sales
ps3fanboy.com — After official confirmation of the price drop, sales at Amazon.com for the 60GB PS3 have spiked by 2800% and have overtaken the Wii and Guitar Hero: Rock the 80s as the best selling item in the Video Game category.
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- FriendsOfWario, on 10/11/2007, -48/+6As Captain Ellerby from The Departed would say, 'this is an elite unit'
- devindotcom, on 10/11/2007, -0/+21what?!
- NgrHader, on 10/11/2007, -3/+18Here at my Best Buy we had about 10 calls asking if they had dropped in price but we were already sold out...then again all we had were 5 left, but to sell 5 in 10 minutes is 'good' for the PS3 I guess
- charlescheese, on 10/11/2007, -0/+26Wow, I just noticed Amazon added this comment:
"• PS3 Price Drop Bonus: For a limited time receive a Blu-ray Remote Controller & Six Blu-ray discs FREE when you buy a PS3 from amazon.com. See offer details."
Free remote and the disks, that's the first I've seen with the remote too.- rarson, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1Now that's almost worth buying.
- GrantTheGr8, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2That's what she said.
- seanthebond, on 10/11/2007, -28/+203There will be no dawn.. for HD-DVD.
- XxERMxX, on 10/11/2007, -64/+2Because PS3 fans don't know how to RIP and burn.
Or... netflix. - devindotcom, on 10/11/2007, -4/+26I don't have a horse in this race, but that comment was pretty funny.
- charlescheese, on 10/11/2007, -2/+13You know the PS3 is selling well today, Memento on Blu-Ray (which they're giving away free with PS3 purchase right now) is #2 in the movie/DVD category on the movers and shakers list.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/movers-and-shakers/dvd/ref=pd_ms_d_nav/105-3253475-8110859?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=left-1&pf_rd_r=112SNRFHE32NWBRAJEZK&pf_rd_t=2301&pf_rd_p=221590901&pf_rd_i=51550011
And 300 on bluray is #5 in the whole movies category which includes dvd and vhs.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/dvd/ref=pd_dp_ts_d_1/105-3253475-8110859- daridave, on 10/11/2007, -12/+4@ seanthebond
Yeah, please DO make it about movies, because game wise, there's no freaking hope.
Your self-ownage is approved.- GawtMilk, on 10/11/2007, -5/+3All the consoles games right now suck. ALL OF THEM. If you try to explain to us that any of the games on the Wii / 360 will be played for the life of the console, you'd just get laughed at and buried. Gears of War, Resistance and Twilight Princess are the best three from all consoles, in my opinion, and they're all around the range of "B" or "B+". There are no knockout "A+" games out for ANY consoles.
The PS3, Wii and 360's good games are all future releases.
Your ignorance is self-exposed.- BobsYourUncle, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2Oblivion. I'll be playing that the life of the console.
- daridave, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2You REALLY need to try Forza 2, idiot.
- SpaceMonkeyZero, on 10/11/2007, -3/+3Guitar Hero III for the Wii is going to revolutionize the genre!
- rarson, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1Yeah, I'm definitely feeling a bit miffed about this generation. Video games in general have gotten a bit stale to me, there's little to no innovation. That said, ironically enough, I spend most of my gaming time playing the Virtual Console on the Wii. It just doesn't get any better than classics like Mike Tyson's Punch-Out and Contra 3.
- GawtMilk, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3"A bit stale" was fair. But then you brought up Punch-Out...are you serious? The LEAST innovative game ever.
Punch-Out proved that you don't have to have in-depth games to have fun...but it wasn't an innovator.
- GawtMilk, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3"A bit stale" was fair. But then you brought up Punch-Out...are you serious? The LEAST innovative game ever.
- GawtMilk, on 10/11/2007, -5/+3All the consoles games right now suck. ALL OF THEM. If you try to explain to us that any of the games on the Wii / 360 will be played for the life of the console, you'd just get laughed at and buried. Gears of War, Resistance and Twilight Princess are the best three from all consoles, in my opinion, and they're all around the range of "B" or "B+". There are no knockout "A+" games out for ANY consoles.
- daridave, on 10/11/2007, -12/+4@ seanthebond
- themastersb, on 10/11/2007, -11/+5We've gotta stop beta..... err... I mean Bluray
- Allanon, on 10/11/2007, -10/+6Yes, there are more Blu-Ray players due to the PS3 but the movie attach rate for a PS3 is nowhere near a regular player. With Toshiba selling HD-DVD players for half the price of Blu-Ray players it doesn't look good for Blu-Ray.
http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/multimedia/display/20070625235506.html- staticneuron, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4lol. Does it have to be? Lets to some math! lets say that 300,000 hd-dvd players has an attach rate of 10 and the 3.5 million PS3's have an attach rate of 2. Who still wins? It is only going to get worse for HD-DVD. The sales help but how much really? It is as if people expect gamers to "only" play games and not watch movies. Even if I liked HD-DVD. There is no justification for me going out and buying one when the quality is pretty much the same ( I have used 360 add on not the toshiba) and all the chest beating of the HD-DVD camp doens't mean much if the movie sales are countinuosly higher for blu ray.
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/07/05/euro-blu-ray-sales-up-1000-since-ps3-launch/
http://www.psu.com/node/11763
http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Industry_Trends/More_HD_DVD_Titles_Released_in_Q2_Than_Blu-ray/735
http://www.twice.com/index.asp?layout=articlePrint&articleID=CA6453379
http://www.ps3forums.com/showthread.php?t=81427- warriorscot, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1The PS3 is the best Blu-ray player you can get at the moment its also better than any of the HD-DVD players cheaper than all the good ones as well, i cant see HD-DVD pulling it out of the bag considering that even taking into account the HD-DVD on the 360 its not a proper player like the PS3.
If not being a console owner and not intending to be were looking for a next-gen DVD player i would get a PS3 and just use it as a blu-ray player.
- warriorscot, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1The PS3 is the best Blu-ray player you can get at the moment its also better than any of the HD-DVD players cheaper than all the good ones as well, i cant see HD-DVD pulling it out of the bag considering that even taking into account the HD-DVD on the 360 its not a proper player like the PS3.
- staticneuron, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4lol. Does it have to be? Lets to some math! lets say that 300,000 hd-dvd players has an attach rate of 10 and the 3.5 million PS3's have an attach rate of 2. Who still wins? It is only going to get worse for HD-DVD. The sales help but how much really? It is as if people expect gamers to "only" play games and not watch movies. Even if I liked HD-DVD. There is no justification for me going out and buying one when the quality is pretty much the same ( I have used 360 add on not the toshiba) and all the chest beating of the HD-DVD camp doens't mean much if the movie sales are countinuosly higher for blu ray.
- XxERMxX, on 10/11/2007, -64/+2Because PS3 fans don't know how to RIP and burn.
- Alphateam, on 10/11/2007, -87/+12Too little too late. Maybe if they have a worth wile game to buy with the announcement I would buy one. OK I lie. I still wouldn't buy one. They still have to drop the price some more.
- Ajajadude, on 10/11/2007, -16/+83Why would they drop the price more? It has more hardware features than the 360 and Wii. The price is extremely reasonable, especially now.
- rarson, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4Since when is $500 a reasonable price for a ***** console? Are you new to gaming or what?
- ProvidenceCrow, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3I dunno man, I work as a tech and had to set up a ps3 for a customer the other day (yeah i know, i was amazed that was my service call too) and I was flat out flabberghasted at the ps3 + price point when i opened up the box to do the job.
This was my first real experience with a ps3 other than playing a demo console in an EB, but here is what i noticed right off the dick:
No HD cables in the box what so ever, only RCA, there was no component, vga, dvi, or hdmi, but there was an hdmi port in the back. Okay but whatever.
So i set everything up, it was a standard def tv, so the lack of a hi def cable was okay in this situation. Next thing i notice was that the charge cable for the controller was like a foot long, a bit annoying but once again okay, would have rather been able to put my own batteries in like AAs or something but sony loves their proprietary hardware so whatever.
They bought a second controller with it, but guess what, that controller doesnt come with a charge cable. Now that is just retarded.
Then the thing wouldnt charge the controllers in standby so the thing had to be fully powered on to even charge, now things are getting ridiculous.
Then the clincher, the wireless net support. It would not take the WEP key what so ever, until i changed the WEP key to nothing but not hex digits, but DECIMAL digits, yes it had no idea what A-G were.
so for 600, or even 500, or even 400 the price is completely unwarranted. When they decide to start including the right cables, allowing the thing to charge controllers in standby, have regular WEP support, etc.. etc.. etc.. then we can talk. Until then i wouldnt even pay 300 for what you get out of the box- apoc06, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11. they didnt include hd cables? no big deal... my printer didnt come with a usb cable either.
2. proprietary?!?!? as a "tech" you should notice the VERY standard USB cable that sony uses to charge the controllers. if you want a longer cable you can go buy your own, or charge it using a camera charger, a blackberry charger, or any other device that charges using USB. if you had any idea how much money ive spent on AA batteries for my xbox360 controller, you wouldnt complain at all.
3. you very rarely need to charge the controllers. when one is being used, charge the other one. when the other one is low on power plug it in.
4. again, you can charge the controller using any USB powered device. plug it into your laptop if you dont have a USB charger in this day and age.
5. you couldnt configure the WEP key? i have never heard of this one. out of 3 million users, no one else [including me] has had a problem configuring a wep key. maybe you were rushing too fast? - jacksons98, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1First you are the worst tech ever. How is a standard mini-usb cable "Sony proprietary"? 1ft cable?? I think it's a standard 5-6ft, mine reaches my couch just barely. WEP what?? Nobody else has made mention of that issue, I don't have that issue, 3rd most electronics don't come with every flavor of cable, not a big deal. In fact you probably like it. The cable costs you another $3-5 and you probably ding your customer $50. Maybe you are new to electronics and that hi tech kinda stuff.
- apoc06, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11. they didnt include hd cables? no big deal... my printer didnt come with a usb cable either.
- fxspec06, on 10/11/2007, -3/+36How the HELL is it too little too late?
Am I missing something?- GreyICE, on 10/11/2007, -7/+10Yes. You're missing the Xbot mentality. They're just as bad as the PS3 fanboys.
- 48h69h, on 10/11/2007, -7/+19And that why there was a 2800% increase in sales? Good call...
- gwolf, on 10/11/2007, -4/+2Not much of a price cut, PS3's are still 5 or 6 hundred dollars right.
- Ajajadude, on 10/11/2007, -16/+83Why would they drop the price more? It has more hardware features than the 360 and Wii. The price is extremely reasonable, especially now.
- shug7272, on 10/11/2007, -51/+5Didnt they just upgrade the 20 gig model to the 60 and the 60 to an 80.... I bet we see another drop before christmas. This is silly.
- Ajajadude, on 10/11/2007, -1/+14No...they had the 20 GB and the 60 GB model out at the same time and eventually dropped the 20 GB model.
It just wasn't worth it to buy the 20 GB model.- nreynolds, on 10/11/2007, -4/+5it was worth it to me since I have wired internet at my TV(didn't want to pay for 360's wifi adapter either), don't care about those memory card slots, and was planning on upgrading my HDD anyways(still am, but I'm waiting for the prices on a 160GB to go down a little). It has everything I need. I don't know why more people didn't buy them, 20GB seemed like enough for every 360 owner when they bought them(until the elite came out).
- mywhitenoise, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7the lack of chrome. I use the SD card slots and wi-fi, but the chrome trim was the selling point for me. I'm shallow.
- EllimistX, on 10/11/2007, -4/+0The chrome trim was what made me not want to buy the 60 gig model....it seemed too tacky...so i decided not to buy at all...
- rarson, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3The LACK OF GOOD GAMES convinced me to not buy at all, considering it is a video game console.
- sirbeta, on 10/11/2007, -5/+1Well, even inside the SCEA building we were all quietly laughing at the 20GB PS3's because they are essentially crippled. The memory card slots not being available was a deal breaker alone for a lot of people, let alone the other lackings. You never know when you might need to move your save files somewhere easily, only to realize the only method at that point is taking the whole hard drive.
- MWeather, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6Just use a USB hard drive.
- MWeather, on 10/11/2007, -9/+3Just use a USB hard drive.
- nreynolds, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5@ sirbeta
If I have to take my save files somewhere, I'll just pop in a USB flash drive, instead of bothering with one of the countless different types of memory cards.
How exactly are they crippled? What does a 20GB NOT have that a premium 360 does? - rarson, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2You know, you can click "reply" to the comment you are replying to...
- mywhitenoise, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7the lack of chrome. I use the SD card slots and wi-fi, but the chrome trim was the selling point for me. I'm shallow.
- nreynolds, on 10/11/2007, -4/+5it was worth it to me since I have wired internet at my TV(didn't want to pay for 360's wifi adapter either), don't care about those memory card slots, and was planning on upgrading my HDD anyways(still am, but I'm waiting for the prices on a 160GB to go down a little). It has everything I need. I don't know why more people didn't buy them, 20GB seemed like enough for every 360 owner when they bought them(until the elite came out).
- phoenixp3k, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6The 20GB did not have WiFi and card readers...
- czimmerman, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I bought the 20 gig used for $300 from a friend of mine. Like another person said, I had no need for the wireless, and really just got it for a Blu-ray player at the moment. The 20 gig was a good value for the people who found one AFTER the fact, like in my case, but at launch, it wasn't good at all, considering everything it missed compared to the 60 gig.
- Ajajadude, on 10/11/2007, -1/+14No...they had the 20 GB and the 60 GB model out at the same time and eventually dropped the 20 GB model.
- nreynolds, on 10/11/2007, -14/+85What's important about this is that it is actually SALES rank. The article about the elite going up 4000%(about) was about popularity, not sales. And popularity can be manipulated.
- synce, on 10/11/2007, -4/+3What's also important about this is that it's an amazon.com rank, not a global one, yet some diggers treat it as if it were.
- kweee, on 10/11/2007, -57/+415So that means they sold 28 instead of 1 today.
- VanD, on 10/11/2007, -20/+29EXACTLY
- wakebrdr, on 10/11/2007, -16/+3are you idiots? a 2800% increase would mean they sold 28 additional (assuming they had sold one only) meaning a total of 29!!! are you stupid??!?!
- YoctoYotta, on 10/11/2007, -1/+20You're right, but a dick.
- wakebrdr, on 10/11/2007, -16/+3are you idiots? a 2800% increase would mean they sold 28 additional (assuming they had sold one only) meaning a total of 29!!! are you stupid??!?!
- Swifty227, on 10/11/2007, -27/+16That was REALLY clever. Wow!
- NeilM, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1I concur. lol
- strictnein, on 10/11/2007, -19/+29Exactly. Amazon isn't much of a presence in the console market.
- h4mx0r, on 10/11/2007, -5/+40Except for that one time they did $100 x360s.
- unloud, on 10/11/2007, -5/+1That was the only reason why I ever bought a 360.
- scott9378, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Wouldn't the fact that a retailer not in the console market having a large spike in sales of a particular console say good things about that console, not negative like you are implying?
- h4mx0r, on 10/11/2007, -5/+40Except for that one time they did $100 x360s.
- nick2, on 10/11/2007, -20/+3Just about to post the same comment!
- Jinno, on 10/11/2007, -19/+2That's what I was thinking xD
- devindotcom, on 10/11/2007, -13/+4I can't tell which of you is being sarcastic...
- idonthack, on 10/11/2007, -4/+3It's Swifty227
- dabears1218, on 10/11/2007, -14/+9Right... so the fact that it's #2 overall for the entire video games category means nothing now.
- shelbygt33, on 10/11/2007, -7/+4If they can continually hold that spot, then sure it does. But not just for one day.
- Jeffler, on 10/11/2007, -3/+4#1 has 29.
- Rettocs, on 10/11/2007, -9/+4True, but you have to consider why it all of a sudden jumped from 1 to 28. Even that seemingly small jump is still out of the ordinary.
- daridave, on 10/11/2007, -7/+4Yes, and as you can read above, the fanboys talk about movies again.
Too bad this is supposed to be about games. Oh and I'm not against the price drop, the PS3 is now the cheapest Blu-Ray player out there, but then again... it's still too expensive for what it offers.- g3r4, on 10/11/2007, -3/+4No its not. Even if you're just bitching about games, saying that the PS3 isn't worth the $500 is just stupid.
Linux Capable
Blu Ray Player (Hey, look, its already worth it...)
Bluetooth (Keyboards, Mice, Headsets, Phones, hopefully Guitar Hero Controllers)
Standard HDD (Big deal for me. 120-200GB 2.5 SATA is just great)
WiFi (Web browsing on Linux, Gaming online)
Card Reader- rarson, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Okay, so where does the fun come in again?
Sorry, this is a bait and switch. Sony got into the console market by offering a good platform at a good price with great games, remember? They effectively brought mature gaming into focus within the industry. Sony played a big part in pushing things forward. Now, they've reversed themselves. Their only goal is to have an all-singing, all-dancing box attached to the TV that does everything, as long as it has a Sony label on it. Now the problem is, IT DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH GOOD SOFTWARE. That's the entire point of a GAME console. Not any of the crap that you mentioned above (case in point: My SNES doesn't have any of that ***** and it's about 20 million times more fun than the PS3).
- rarson, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Okay, so where does the fun come in again?
- g3r4, on 10/11/2007, -3/+4No its not. Even if you're just bitching about games, saying that the PS3 isn't worth the $500 is just stupid.
- alx242, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4And seeing as it has overtaken Wii and Guitar Hero 80s in the sales on Amazon...how many of those would your ironic statement figure they sold?
- Vagari, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Right, but how many Wii's do they have in stock and are able to sell? It's not hard to see that it would beat out something that's difficult to find.
- zeroeffect, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4The price cut wasn't a big secret so a large number of people held off on buying one. The real test of the PS3 will been seen in a month, after this little flurry has subsided. Will we see its sales fall back to its previously dismal numbers?
- Corinthos, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Just what I was thinking. About 4 years ago at my job I got Employee of the Month twice then offered a supervisor position. It was in sales. They kept seeing 4000 percent increase in sales from me. Some of the people just weren't bright enough to realize it was because no one was in that department that time last year. Anyways I still kindof want a PS3 but still think I am going to wait until a game comes out I want for it that isn't going to be on 360. Probably going to buy it for FFXIII. Hopefully will be another price drop by then. ^_^ If it would ever come down to 400 thats when I'll for sure pick one up.
- VanD, on 10/11/2007, -20/+29EXACTLY
- CrimsonRiot, on 10/11/2007, -2/+10ref=pd_ts_mte
whats that mean?- HolyChimp, on 10/11/2007, -2/+13It means it's the same guy that was spamming his amazon referral code with the 360 elite story earlier.
Hats off to him for his innovation in making money :D- afx1, on 10/11/2007, -7/+5"It means it's the same guy that was spamming his amazon referral code with the 360 elite story earlier."
Or it could mean you don't know what the hell an amazon affiliate link looks like.
- afx1, on 10/11/2007, -7/+5"It means it's the same guy that was spamming his amazon referral code with the 360 elite story earlier."
- HolyChimp, on 10/11/2007, -2/+13It means it's the same guy that was spamming his amazon referral code with the 360 elite story earlier.
- axiomflash, on 10/11/2007, -38/+6Wow! Did you know that when the original Wii first was for sale it caused an Infitity% increase in sales?!?
Of course thats because no one had bought one before it was for sale. I imagine thats the same case with this new PS3.- AntBing, on 10/11/2007, -4/+12I own one. You fail.
- KMartSheriff, on 10/11/2007, -4/+11I hate all fanboys, but I hate you Wii fanboys the most.
- Otnip, on 10/11/2007, -15/+6Holy *****
- over9, on 10/11/2007, -30/+63let's see how long before wii and xbox360 fanboys dig into this story.
- Veurruckte, on 10/11/2007, -13/+2You've got to love digg! :)
- NSMike, on 10/11/2007, -4/+39Fanboys are stupid. If there's one thing a lower priced PS3 will do, it will attract more sales, encourage competition, and make the console market a lot more interesting. Nothing bad there.
- hockey, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Your entire comment was valid. However I must point out that if you would simply have stopped at "Fanboys are stupid" I would have still dugg you up.
- MCHampster, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1That isn't necessarily true for some people. Not everyone wants to have to purchase three consoles to get to play all of the major games. If the PS3 continues to do badly, it will mean more games that were formerly exclusive to the PS3 coming over to the 360. We've already seen this happen with other titles like Devil May Cry, etc. So if you don't want to spend the money on a PS3, there could be incentive to hope that the PS3 does badly.
- NSMike, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Nope. Without the PS3 competition, devs making exclusives for the 360 won't have as much incentive to create truly worthwhile games. Quality will drop across the board. If you're saying, "Gee, I'm missing out on these great games on the PS3/360," then the PS3/360 isn't living up to the competition anyway.
- MCHampster, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1?
That makes no sense at all. You are assuming that if the PS3 does poorly, it simply means people aren't buying any console. It could be that instead they are just buying the 360. Developers making games for any system still have to compete against other developers for your dollar.
True, if the PS3 bombs and the 360 is the only real graphical powerhouse/media center out there, then MS might not have the incentive to improve upon the platform with great updates. But I hardly see how it will hurt competition among developers seeking the dollars of people who buy games.
- MCHampster, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1?
- NSMike, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Nope. Without the PS3 competition, devs making exclusives for the 360 won't have as much incentive to create truly worthwhile games. Quality will drop across the board. If you're saying, "Gee, I'm missing out on these great games on the PS3/360," then the PS3/360 isn't living up to the competition anyway.
- Wiinii, on 10/11/2007, -6/+2Politics in GAMING is stupid.
- shableep, on 10/11/2007, -33/+15oh hey! PS3Fanboy.com! obviously, THE most unquestionably objective and unbiased source for console related news!
- djSyndrome, on 10/11/2007, -3/+19How do you put bias onto a statistic from the world's biggest online retailer? (hint: you can't).
- Jeffler, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11Also, PS3Fanboy is a PS3-Only section of Joystiq, more or less.
- cavie2002, on 10/11/2007, -29/+8stop posting articles about fricken price drops already
- 48h69h, on 10/11/2007, -1/+15Why? This is actually news... Or are you a PS3 owner who's ***** because you just bought one before the price drop? Or are you a wii/360 owner who's ***** that there's less of a price gap now?
Oh, and you dugg a story titled: "Blu-ray laser shortage ending; PS3 prices cuts should follow" and now you're mad when they confirmed the price drop?
- 48h69h, on 10/11/2007, -1/+15Why? This is actually news... Or are you a PS3 owner who's ***** because you just bought one before the price drop? Or are you a wii/360 owner who's ***** that there's less of a price gap now?
- pauleku, on 10/11/2007, -35/+12The price drop is a joke. The only difference is that the hard drive. And there is a 20 GB difference between the 500 dollar and 600 dollar ps3s. Whats the point? A hard drive can be found much cheaper than that.
- OhFrak, on 10/11/2007, -4/+31The 60 gig PS3 has a larger harddrive, WiFI, and the card readers. The Wifi alone costs 100 dollars extra on another console.
- Bob042, on 10/11/2007, -3/+7The Wifi adaptor for the 360 is certainly overpriced. Should we be able to buy a version of the Wii for $150 without wifi? Sign me up for one and 5 yards of ethernet cable, please.
- TridenTBoy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+20You forgot something else...IT HAS ***** BLU-RAY!
- nreynolds, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1he's saying the different between the original 20gb and the 60gb... and since I own a 20gb, i'm *pretty sure* it has blu-ray too.
- KMartSheriff, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10I agree. I don't see how the PS3 sucks. It has everything the other consoles have without charging extra (WiFi, Blu-ray, etc.). Of course that means the price is higher, but it's worth it. Now we just need some quality games for it...
- topbravo, on 10/11/2007, -7/+7okkkk so wireless on a 360 is a 100 dollar value and media card reader is nothing... I want to see M$ give you guys a 100 dollar price drop and a free wireless adaptor... Yeah not so funny...
- carpespasm, on 10/11/2007, -5/+5well they're already gonna do a price drop on the 360 at E3....
- dmcbride6, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2I think Pauleku is referring more to the difference between the "new" 80gb version and the original 60gb version.
It's a joke they only lowered it $100. In some cases 80GB harddrives cost LESS than 60GB harddrives...in other cases they cost a few more dollars - read: $3-4 more/less dollars. Factor in the fact they are bundling it with an old 'ok' game and most people start to wonder what accounts for the $100 difference. I would have considered buying the "new" ps3 had they put in an 80GB drive and sold it for $100 less...rather than the same damn price. Its the 600 price point that is killing them.
What we are seeing is nothing new in the console market though. the 360 elite did the same crap...bundled with a larger harddrive with no account as to what the big jump in price came from.- nreynolds, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1it's not a joke they lowered it $100, it's still an amazing deal. The 80gb is stupid as hell, though.
- OhFrak, on 10/11/2007, -4/+31The 60 gig PS3 has a larger harddrive, WiFI, and the card readers. The Wifi alone costs 100 dollars extra on another console.
- dabears1218, on 10/11/2007, -11/+84Not to mention the top 5 selling products in the video game category on Amazon are all now PS3 related. Smart move by Sony it looks like.
- allenu, on 10/11/2007, -6/+1Yup, this was their plan from release day. Price it just out of reach of most people and then months later when it is all but written off, drop the price by $100 just to get the top Amazon sales rankings. Well played, Sony. Well played.
- Bob042, on 10/11/2007, -6/+21I wonder what the percent change in Sony's profits/revenue will be?
- Otnip, on 10/11/2007, -3/+6They don't profit by only selling units, so... yeah.
- Smeed, on 10/11/2007, -3/+12They lose money on the console itself
- dabears1218, on 10/11/2007, -1/+20Yeah, but more consoles sold = more games and accessories sold.
- Kardall, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3Either an Economics guy or you worked at "bestbuy/futureshop/etc." :) It's all about accessories. The product itself = nothing. You sell a product, but oh, you need another controller, a network adapter, speaker/video cables.. oh what's that? You have friends? here's a couple more wireless controllers for them so the cables don't get tangled.... ya...
- neATL, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1but does those accessories balance out what SONY is losing per console? From the start, they were losing something like $220 per console, now they dropped it $100 and they losing even more. SONY needs to get more consoles out there and this is a way of doing it, but they are taking a "L" in the process.
- apoc06, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1under normal circumstances, but since sony manufacturers alot of the parts themselves, they can drop the price easier and faster. since alot of that extra "accessory money" is already factored into the cost of the SKU. even users that use a wired connection to their ps3 paid for the wireless connection if they own a 60g model ps3.
- neATL, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1but does those accessories balance out what SONY is losing per console? From the start, they were losing something like $220 per console, now they dropped it $100 and they losing even more. SONY needs to get more consoles out there and this is a way of doing it, but they are taking a "L" in the process.
- rarson, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1No, it doesn't. Have you heard of something called an "attach rate?" When the only selling point for your video game console is that it plays movies, it's hard to sell any games.
- Kardall, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3Either an Economics guy or you worked at "bestbuy/futureshop/etc." :) It's all about accessories. The product itself = nothing. You sell a product, but oh, you need another controller, a network adapter, speaker/video cables.. oh what's that? You have friends? here's a couple more wireless controllers for them so the cables don't get tangled.... ya...
- Jeffler, on 10/11/2007, -10/+720% up in revenue, 40% down in profits.
- rumorsofdemise, on 10/11/2007, -26/+8well, yeah. a 2800% increase isn't hard when they weren't selling any.
- dabears1218, on 10/11/2007, -3/+13Again, it was the #1 selling video game related product on Amazon, and now is #2 (#1 still being a PS3 accessory). Check your facts before you bash stuff guys.
- reedreeder, on 10/11/2007, -7/+30I just now realized that Guitar Hero: Rock the 80's is fifty bucks! Where do they get off charging that much money for an expansion pack?!
- Jeffler, on 10/11/2007, -7/+4Its a sequel. You don't need GHII to play it.
- teletran1, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4In console terms, it IS an expansion pack. There are no new features, just new songs. Hence the "Encore" in the title.
- floatingpoints, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2It's an expansion pack if the core of the game has not changed and new ***** is added.
Thus, it's an expansion pack.
- Jeffler, on 10/11/2007, -7/+4Its a sequel. You don't need GHII to play it.
- ut2k4king, on 10/11/2007, -24/+3Great, real nice. Call me back when it drops to a reasonable price (read: 400) and has a decent online network THEN it'll be front page news.
- repmekevets, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3sorry buddy, didn't you see...? it already IS on the front page.
- g3r4, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2Yeah, you're right. $500 is just unreasonably. Now go back to your $400 console, $200 HD-DVD Drive, $100 WiFi Adapter.
Or if you have a Wii, you're a completely different market. Wii owners just want games for a cheap console. (Never mind that there's basically no functionality in the Wii barring its Wiimote and that their games are mostly mini games)- 35263526, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Excuse me, are we forgetting what a _games_ console is?
I have a Wii, and for the record, it does have functionality other than gaming, but frankly, I couldn't care less; I got the thing to game. If I wanted to watch movies I'd get a DVD player; if I wanted to browse the web (which I can do anyway) I'd get a PC.
Don't be bitter just because Nintendo managed to put out a console just as fun as your precious PS3 for several hundred dollars less.
- 35263526, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Excuse me, are we forgetting what a _games_ console is?
- ThinkBox, on 10/11/2007, -10/+21URL freakin look at the URL
- markp93, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9This one?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/movers-and-shakers/videogames/ref=pd_ts_mte/002-7413643-6366425 - HAKdragon, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3ps3fanboy.com is a PS3 specific version of joystiq. They have the similar sites for the XBox 360 and the Wii. I think they could have chosen a better name though.
- markp93, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9This one?
- Malarie, on 10/11/2007, -21/+39Blue Ray Player, Console, Slick design, 100$ cheaper....
I want one. Thank you $0ny.- tony1972, on 10/11/2007, -7/+0Slick design? I had VCRs, which were smaller.
- craig4, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1but did it play blu ray?
- repmekevets, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1seriously, has anyone noticed how much stand-alone blu ray players are going for? its almost cheaper to buy the ps3 to use for blu ray movies alone.
- BabyWookie, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Now, if it only had some decent games to play.
- tony1972, on 10/11/2007, -7/+0Slick design? I had VCRs, which were smaller.
- wiirdo, on 10/11/2007, -20/+6Aren't they losing money on the sale of each console? Now add another $100 loss on the sale of each console.
They need to take ECON 101 again.- OhFrak, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11The BluRay drive's diodes have dropped dramatically since the PS3 shipped from 100 dollars down to about 10 from the news stories I've seen. And that is just one component. There are obviously many other areas that are getting cheaper as the volume ramps up. Sony has recently stated that they are on track to break even on the PS3 hardware at the one year mark just like they did with the PS2.
- djSyndrome, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11At that rate, they would need to sell ten million consoles just to equal the one billion dollar ***** Microsoft just took on 360 repairs.
- AntBing, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5Blu-ray sales?
Game royalties?
Sony has enough cash and creditors to lose money for a long time as long as it rolls in eventually, and it will. - iampoch, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1and you need to finish a business course before shooting fart out of your mouth
- OhFrak, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11The BluRay drive's diodes have dropped dramatically since the PS3 shipped from 100 dollars down to about 10 from the news stories I've seen. And that is just one component. There are obviously many other areas that are getting cheaper as the volume ramps up. Sony has recently stated that they are on track to break even on the PS3 hardware at the one year mark just like they did with the PS2.
- legacyboy, on 10/11/2007, -24/+3Whats a %2,800 increase on 0.2 units a day equal?
Anyone?- luperry, on 10/11/2007, -1/+12so I guess you are saying it still isn't selling much.
wow, then I guess amazon is nearing bankruptcy, having a product selling at 5.6 units a day listing at #1(or #2) spot.
- luperry, on 10/11/2007, -1/+12so I guess you are saying it still isn't selling much.
- mc7winkie, on 10/11/2007, -22/+3Of course there is no bias from a site called PS3 Fanboy...
- MWeather, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9It's a verifiable sales figure. How exactly can that be biased?
- mc7winkie, on 10/11/2007, -11/+2It's a misinterpreted sensationalized story.
- MWeather, on 10/11/2007, -4/+4It's a verifiable sales figure. How exactly can that be biased?
- KMartSheriff, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5So what does that make you? A Wii fanboy?
- MWeather, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9It's a verifiable sales figure. How exactly can that be biased?
- TDR25, on 10/11/2007, -6/+43Nothing surprises me about this news. It was only the price, a few dumb(and arrogant) comments, and no really great games that hampered the PS3's success...we all knew this. Not hating on the 360, I'm just surprised after 2 years of hardware problems that it's still pretty successful.
- stubadub, on 10/11/2007, -5/+2The thing is there was already a $500 PS3 that wasn't selling strongly. With the new 80 GB unit coming out in August we're just back to the same price points we started at back in the Fall, albeit more for each.
- BobsYourUncle, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1The 20GB was impossible to find. And severely crippled. Now it's more a comparison between the Premium and Elite 360's. I don't need HDMI or a bigger HDD (no video marketplace in Canada) so the Premium serves me well. Now I can get a 60GB PS3 as well, $100 cheaper than before. If the reported lower price in Canada ($549) is true, then it's only a $50 difference between the Premium 360 and 60GB PS3. Arguing over variety of SKUs is meaningless. Price and features are what matter. If I can get both for a reasonable price without being crippled technologically, I'm satisfied.
- stubadub, on 10/11/2007, -5/+2The thing is there was already a $500 PS3 that wasn't selling strongly. With the new 80 GB unit coming out in August we're just back to the same price points we started at back in the Fall, albeit more for each.
- SAOSiN, on 10/11/2007, -18/+5I dunno...thats still a lot of money. Yea the the xbox 360 was a lot of money too but it was worth it...
- TridenTBoy, on 10/11/2007, -8/+3Don't want to be an ass or anything. But yea, isn't yeah.
- iampoch, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Yes, and so's the PS3. Only dumb, uninformed people fail to realize the benefits of competition of which digg seem to have a lot of.
- ernasty10050, on 10/11/2007, -15/+1Not to be a dick but according to the link the site provides, it's 2500%. I have a feeling "ps3fanboy.com" would make an error like that on purpose.
- dabears1218, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7It was 2800% at the time the article was posted.
- chuckpenzone, on 10/11/2007, -6/+2I 2nd Kwee - percentage statistics can be misleading.
- DDRSkata, on 10/11/2007, -5/+16When the ***** did Rock the 80s come out?
- icealchemist, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2Guess you can't read the words PREORDER.
- DDRSkata, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Guess I looked at the description and didn't RTFA. Don't have to be a dick about it.
- icealchemist, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2Guess you can't read the words PREORDER.
- bigstinky, on 10/11/2007, -4/+24I've always owned a Sony game product until the PS3 came out. There was just no way I could afford it.
I've always had a Nintendo product as well, so when the new generation of machines came out, I went for the Wii. Still, I've always had a soft spot of "wanting" for the PS3. I could never understand the amount of hate this system received since it's release. Yes, it's price was astronomical, but to me all new-release systems seem that way, so I opt to wait for these type of price drops. It seems that the jump in sales indicates that alot of people feel the same way I do. Sony may have started out slow, but maybe people just wanted too much up front...And understandably so. Gamers do invest alot in their medium. I'm guilty of it.
Now the PS3 is in range, but I think I'll wait until the next big promo hits. Hopefully Nintendo will give me some nice options to get me through 'til then.- mojibake, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2I feel exactly the same way. It's not worth it till GTA 4 is out, anyway. ;P
- iampoch, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I don't know why you're getting dugg down. To each his own anyway. Tekken 5 DR made my early adoption justifiable for me. VF5, resistance, and motorstorm became simply icing on the cake. And with t5dr going online, it made the ps3 much much sweeter.
- AntBing, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4Like online play and the removal of friend codes.....yea right.
- Slrarp, on 10/11/2007, -5/+1I don't know... it's still 500$ I really can't see why this price drop is successful at all. Maybe people are fooled by the "499" lol.
- floatingpoints, on 10/11/2007, -3/+3***** LOL
So you can afford it if it was $500... but $600 is just way too far across the line?
I think you need to get your finances in order if $100 makes an item go from "I can't afford this" to "I'm getting one!!!"
- mojibake, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2I feel exactly the same way. It's not worth it till GTA 4 is out, anyway. ;P
- AndrewDB, on 01/10/2008, -6/+41Christ.... Bush considering a gradual withdrawal from Iraq.. A Digg news story has mugglenet as it's source, and now the PS3 has a 2800% sales jump?..
Hell's not frozen over, Hell's looking at subzero temps now..- smackhero, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3this can only mean that tomorrow's headline will probably be about a Google + Microsoft merger, followed by an announcement by the RIAA that the next Metallica album will be released as a free bittorrent download in DRM-free FLAC format. and by wednesday we should start seeing sightings of the four horsemen of the apocalypse in New Jersey.
- guntario, on 10/11/2007, -4/+29I'm convinced to buy one now. I have been wanting one for a long time, but I think $500 did it for me :)
- Matter0099, on 10/11/2007, -3/+18Another site using Digg to increase their Amazon referred sales. (see ref_id in the URL)
- dvsbastard, on 10/11/2007, -11/+48"The Movers & Shakers index identifies, by category, the biggest gainers in sales rank at Amazon.com in the past 24 hours. For example, suppose a music item has a sales rank of 10 today, but was ranked as low as 30 yesterday. Its Movers & Shakers increase would be 200 percent."
The PS3 did not increase 2800% sales... It increased it's sales rank by that amount over a 24 hour period (i.e. at the time of the article, it moved up 28 positions)...
Misinterpretation at its best!- charlescheese, on 10/11/2007, -3/+8Still, it's pretty amazing that the top 20 items in the gaming section are all Sony related. Too bad the HDMI cable is in there, suckers.
- santaliqueur, on 10/11/2007, -12/+8"have overtaken the Wii"
So the PS3 overtook a console that has fixed sales, because demand is astronomically high compared to supply?
BFD. The Wii has no room to move until you can walk into a store and buy one.
*btw, I own and enjoy both.- gajillion, on 10/11/2007, -4/+2Must be fanboiz digging you down because you're right on the money. A single sale of a PS3 is going to overtake the Wii because you can't friggin buy one - especially not at $100 off the list price. $100 over, maybe.
- OhFrak, on 10/11/2007, -0/+48There was no point to link to that crappy ps3fanboy site.
Direct link here to Amazon's top sellers in the video game section:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/videogames/
The PS3 is at #1 right now. - Awspire, on 10/11/2007, -7/+0Monopolies are bad, we pretty much know that to be true. Though, would gamers benefit with one major console manufacture, and let the competition happen amongst the game developers? I friggin hate exclusive game titles, and refuse to buy three consoles so I can play the latest and greatest. Just a thought.
- Borramakot, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Games would get better. Hardware would have no reason to improve much thought.
- Shaem1, on 10/11/2007, -17/+13Still costs too much
- KMartSheriff, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7How? The 360 costs pretty much the same. The difference is the PS3 comes with a built in WiFi (that works without having to pay another $99) and a Blu-ray player. I'd say you're wrong.
- Shaem1, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Hey I live in the U.K and the want me to pay £425...That's 855 dollars for ***** sake!
- KMartSheriff, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7How? The 360 costs pretty much the same. The difference is the PS3 comes with a built in WiFi (that works without having to pay another $99) and a Blu-ray player. I'd say you're wrong.
- fatdog789, on 10/11/2007, -6/+11Just think...all Sony had to do was start with this price, and they would have found the optimal pricing point...
- floatingpoints, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Yeah but then they wouldn't have sold their X million consoles for $100 more. Guess it's x*100 million dollars less they lost (don't remember if it was 2 or 3 million sold, maybe more). That's a lot of money.
Either way, still ahead of MS. That warranty debacle is projected to cost them about 1 billion. Sure, they can afford it, but shareholders don't like when a company blows 1 billion on a mistake.
- floatingpoints, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Yeah but then they wouldn't have sold their X million consoles for $100 more. Guess it's x*100 million dollars less they lost (don't remember if it was 2 or 3 million sold, maybe more). That's a lot of money.
- logicalnoise, on 10/11/2007, -9/+3of course it will sell well. They originally offered a 500 dollar ps3. Then discontinued it now they offer it again and all of sudden OMG!
- logicalnoise, on 10/11/2007, -5/+1go ahead digg me down but really the system was 500 when it first came out. This isn't a huge deal.
- iampoch, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3you're getting dugg down because you fail to mention the huge difference between the 20GB PS3 versus the 60GB model that's at that price range right now.
- Cirrius, on 10/11/2007, -9/+19Oh dear, what story will the Nintendo fanboys post in retaliation.
- Pinkshisno, on 10/11/2007, -9/+3They really don't have anything to say back, their console is doing great for them. The real question is what will 360 fanboys post.
- frygar, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4More *****, FUD, and "it's only 3%, my launch unit hasn't broken yet, I swear guys!"
- KMartSheriff, on 10/11/2007, -4/+4Exactly what I was thinking. I'm so tired of seeing "BREAKING: NEW WII MARIO SUPER GO KART SMASH BROTHERS WIIMOTE FANTASTIC EDITION COMING THIS FALL" articles.
- Pinkshisno, on 10/11/2007, -9/+3They really don't have anything to say back, their console is doing great for them. The real question is what will 360 fanboys post.
- qwerty1024, on 10/11/2007, -15/+9Amazon percentages dont mean squat.
Buried - lionpirate, on 10/11/2007, -9/+2Meh... why not make my computer Harder, Better, faster, Stronger?
Then I wont have to touch that ugly thing they call a controller.- Awspire, on 10/11/2007, -5/+2Cause key/mouse play SUCKS!
- luperry, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3try playing a fighting game or a platformer on your computer without a gamepad, they're virtually unplayable.
- CriticalImpacta, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2No, you just suck using a keyboard.
- luperry, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1keyboard? that's for babies and retards. I would totally play them with voice recognition. "JUMP, MARIO! JUMP!"
- smackhero, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2so get a gamepad? they're like what $20? i think you can use the PSP as an IR game controller too.
- luperry, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I have one, but that's not the point. the question is whether a controller(gamepad) is really as "ugly" as lionpirate has stated, and is the standard computer input(keyboard/mouse) really that much better. my opinion is they are different, and are better suited for different games.
- CriticalImpacta, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2No, you just suck using a keyboard.
- schoate09, on 10/11/2007, -11/+17Great system, with advanced hardware features, the hardware is definitely worth the money.
HD-DVD should give up now...- headband, on 10/11/2007, -9/+2thats what sony fans want them to do....but in reality when either format gets mainstream mabey 5% will be consoles...the set top market is where its at
sure blu ray will sell a few more discs right now because of the ps3 thing, but if HD DVD can take the set top market when more people adopt the ammount of disc sales from the ps3 will be a drop in the bucket- KMartSheriff, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1You're forgetting one thing: marketing. Whoever can get the word out to the most people that "Blu-ray (or HD-DVD) is the *****!" and have it stick, wins. It's the average mom & dad who are thinkin about gettin a new DVD player and come across the cutting edge (yet affordable) next gen. HD players who will say who wins. So far from what I've seen, it's been Blu-ray.
This news with the PS3 is only going to fuel more fire.
- KMartSheriff, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1You're forgetting one thing: marketing. Whoever can get the word out to the most people that "Blu-ray (or HD-DVD) is the *****!" and have it stick, wins. It's the average mom & dad who are thinkin about gettin a new DVD player and come across the cutting edge (yet affordable) next gen. HD players who will say who wins. So far from what I've seen, it's been Blu-ray.
- archer75, on 10/11/2007, -8/+1I'll take HD-DVD over blue ray any day of the week.
- Tahiri, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3And that makes you retarded. You're willing to invest that much money in a format that's already lost, out of an irrational hatred (phobia) of a company. Even though said company's product is clearly superior to HD DVD
- neATL, on 10/11/2007, -2/+0explain superior? Or is this something you read on a fanboy site?
- apoc06, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1more studio support and more storage space [when using it for data storage] equates to superior.
- digason, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2More space and higher bitrates is a good place to start.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-Ray_disc#Blu-ray_Disc_.2F_HD_DVD_comparison
- neATL, on 10/11/2007, -2/+0explain superior? Or is this something you read on a fanboy site?
- diggrim, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1he's not a retard...just uneducated. He should compare the formats: HD-DVD is just an iteration of DVD, Blu-ray at least is a redesign, hence the greater storage capacity per layer
- cajie, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Why?
- Tahiri, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3And that makes you retarded. You're willing to invest that much money in a format that's already lost, out of an irrational hatred (phobia) of a company. Even though said company's product is clearly superior to HD DVD
- headband, on 10/11/2007, -9/+2thats what sony fans want them to do....but in reality when either format gets mainstream mabey 5% will be consoles...the set top market is where its at
- tracespeck, on 10/11/2007, -7/+4I'll consider getting a PS3 when the cost of the console + cost of the games i want < the value of the entertainment I will get. Right now thats not the case. They need a really solid line up of exclusive games to make it happen. I don't have HD TV or need any of the other things the console does either so for me there is a lot of unnecessary expense in the ps3 compared to what I would get relative to a person with a lot of money and the hd tv and junk.
- MWeather, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Don't rule out the non-exclusives. Blazing Angels is a ton of fun with sixaxis. It also comes in handy in Tony Hawk. I was never any good at balancing with the joysticks.
- Cockdiesel, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11amazon is giving dvd remote and free copy of memento bray dvd. remember you can also get 5 free movies on top of that by mail in.
can't beat this man. And I almost bought a 360 last week. It's meant to be. - Grivako, on 10/11/2007, -5/+4among the hate being tossed between Sony fanboys and Microsoft ones, even the Wii cant come out unscathed. I just hope to god Steve Jobs doesnt wade in with his own iConsole or something and cause everyones eyes and ears to start bleeding at the frenzy of it all.
- Exhaust, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4You mean like the "Pippin"?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Pippin
That would be hilarious if Apple tried video game consoles again. This thing is an example of how to do everything wrong in the video game console industry. I'd say the Pippin is why they are just barely dipping their toe in the water on the video ipod right now.- iampoch, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0yups, but franky, i think we could use at most one more console competitor. i don't think apple will enter right now, though the thought really isn't far off, if you look at the way they're expanding their horizon. I won't be surprised if they do enter the business in the next-gen console war.
- Exhaust, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4You mean like the "Pippin"?
- Maynza, on 10/11/2007, -3/+23Just bought mine, it is an awesome deal, you get a free blu-ray remote and memento on Blu-Ray for free.
- KingGoonie, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Too bad it doesnt include any good games... I mean I'm sure it would if there were any to choose from besides maybe 1 launch title... but since there isn't, gotta go with the free DVDs instead.
Maybe it is a good deal, I dunno... but I could give a crap about the blu-ray, its games that matter, and its still way overpriced for the horrible selection of games and loss of exclusives. That being said, I did send the link to that deal to my friend who is interested in buying a PS3, because if you really want one, that does seem like a good deal if you were just waiting on a price drop (the price should have dropped 200... but the free movies and remote is a free 100+ technically i guess) - craig4, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1If you go through gamestop I think you get 5 movies for free with a rebate through sony.
- KingGoonie, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Too bad it doesnt include any good games... I mean I'm sure it would if there were any to choose from besides maybe 1 launch title... but since there isn't, gotta go with the free DVDs instead.
- SnowBladerX, on 10/11/2007, -4/+10Ill be buying one very soon, I was already considering it but this sealed the deal,
- NiGHTSChao, on 10/11/2007, -11/+20I really hate how people are still bitching about the price, even at 500 dollars that still beats prices for building gaming computers (usually because 700 is the range you SHOULD spend for building a high-average-to-top-notch PC)
- dime, on 10/11/2007, -3/+8Except, like, I can still use my computer to do work that I can justify billing other people for and thereby offsetting the initial cost and ultimately making a profit a hundred times over.
- headband, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2well, the graphics card is the only real part that is exclusive to gaming
having quality components to the rest of the system is comprable to having an HDTV...in order to get they full experiance you need to buy one....but it can also do many other things besides play games - NiGHTSChao, on 10/11/2007, -6/+5uh but the ps3 can do a ***** load of other things too? besides gaming?
- nuclearzombie, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0like what? word processing? photo shop? printing? spreadsheets? or how about a mod community that adds content to a game for free? multiple displays?
and that is why PC > Consoles.- MWeather, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3"like what? word processing? photo shop? printing? spreadsheets?"
Yes. Though, Photoshop can be tricky to get running under Linux.
- MWeather, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3"like what? word processing? photo shop? printing? spreadsheets?"
- Tahiri, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3You can do that on PS3 too. It runs Linux remember?
- diggrim, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I browse digg on my PS3 running Linux using my HDTV...and I have things called Open Office and Gimp for word processing photo editing, etc.,etc.
- nuclearzombie, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0like what? word processing? photo shop? printing? spreadsheets? or how about a mod community that adds content to a game for free? multiple displays?
- Slrarp, on 10/11/2007, -5/+1PC's are a MUCH better investment. Even if you use it exclusively for gaming, you still have the option of upgrading it gradually over time for less money. Not only that, but you'll still be able to play top of the line games in a few years while all the console games start to "fail at graphics."
- floatingpoints, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1How is buying a PC an investment? It's an item that depreciates in value. A computer you spend $1000 on today will be $500 by next year.
- floatingpoints, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1How is buying a PC an investment? It's an item that depreciates in value. A computer you spend $1000 on today will be $500 by next year.
- elvenseven, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3It's the games damnit. Have fun waiting for GTA 4.
- KingGoonie, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1Yea, the lesser of the 2 GTA's coming out too... I mean give me downloadable content over slightly better graphics anyday. GTA4 is the reason I am buying a system alright... but the reason I'm buying a 360. And even the 360 best come down 100bucks, not that 50 buck rumor.
Besides we all know a GTA will be on Wii, and that will kick butt. Maybe not GTA4, but a GTA.. - elvenseven, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1It doesn't matter what console you buy. Games come on consoles first because they make more money there. Overall gaming, people buy consoles. Specific games like WoW/CS people buy PCs. I've upgraded the PC's graphic card countless times but couldn't beat the time spent on the console.
- KingGoonie, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1Yea, the lesser of the 2 GTA's coming out too... I mean give me downloadable content over slightly better graphics anyday. GTA4 is the reason I am buying a system alright... but the reason I'm buying a 360. And even the 360 best come down 100bucks, not that 50 buck rumor.
- rheaume, on 10/11/2007, -2/+12800% increase of 5 consoles sold is awesome!
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