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- Kdog22, on 10/10/2007, -10/+116Is Woolworths still in business? haven't seen one of those since I was a kid.. (Pittsburgh)
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -17/+96What the hell is a Woolworth?
- Sparke, on 10/10/2007, -22/+65Target is also going Blu-Ray as well - http://www.digg.com/gadgets/Target_goes_Blu_Another_blow_to_the_HD_DVD_camp
- WhereAmI, on 10/10/2007, -4/+38Or they could start putting in the HD DVD hard drives in all consoles that come in for repair. That will bring everyone up to date.
- eurobloke, on 10/10/2007, -1/+27The Woolworths, the person is describing is the UK Woolworths (http://www.woolworths.co.uk/web/jsp/index.jsp ). They are a notable retailer in confectionery, toys, music, videos, games and children's clothing. Much of the market for them is class categories C1, C2, D & Es.
They aren't big but you know that like dominoes one tends for fall on one and the other. The big question is what the big four supermarkets, Tesco, Asda Wal-Mart, Sainsbury's and Morrisons are going to chose, that is as an American would say, that is the $64 000 question? - falch69, on 10/10/2007, -8/+34Did you ever think that it could be winning because it has a higher capacity, better security, more companies backing it, and in general is a better format than HD-DVD?
- JackSrenton, on 10/10/2007, -4/+29Im sure everyone in 1950 is happy.
- WhereAmI, on 10/10/2007, -5/+29What are you talking about? size differences irrelevant? since when is 20 GB irrelevant?
- MCHampster, on 10/10/2007, -0/+22Oooh, I see what you did there. Very nice!
- djSyndrome, on 10/10/2007, -1/+21Microsoft may be able to sell the system with an HD-DVD drive built-in, but they can never use it for games - it would fracture the userbase.
(then again, this is the same company that made the hard drive optional...) - LetsGoHawks, on 10/10/2007, -8/+27Movie studios don't give a rip about the number of players sold or whether they're PS3's or standalones are whatever. All they care about is which format is selling the most discs. Why? Because they sell discs. BR is outselling HD by a wide margin.
I expect the 'war' to be all over but the cryin' by the end of 2008. And BR will be the winner. - shinythingy, on 10/10/2007, -1/+19A sheep and a dog
- JayD16, on 10/10/2007, -3/+20You're thinking really short term. Three years down the line wouldn't you rather have a bluray burner then an HDDVD burner for the sake of that 'meaningless' size difference?
- LetsGoHawks, on 10/10/2007, -6/+22The fat lady is just about done warming up.....
Universal is going to announce support for Blu-Ray eventualy. I thought it would be this year, but it looks like they weren't that smart. Look for it early next year after the holiday shopping season..... after BR outsells HD 3 or 4 to 1. - loganhid, on 10/10/2007, -12/+28Blu-Ray will win as it has the backing of most of major firms. Gaming wise it looks like a good choice, and i think Microsoft aren't 100% on HD-DVD, otherwise they would have included built-in HD-DVD drives in all of their new production of 360 consoles (instead they give you the choice of an Add-on).
- freestatelover, on 10/10/2007, -6/+21It is a UK company.
- HenvY, on 10/10/2007, -0/+15"F W Woolworth & Co, Ltd was founded by Frank Woolworth in Liverpool, the United Kingdom in 1909 as a subsidiary of the American company F.W. Woolworth Company."
- JayD16, on 10/10/2007, -0/+14About 1gold a stack....
- djSyndrome, on 10/10/2007, -2/+14Actualy, LetsGoHawks does. Retailers make very little money on hardware sales, especially game consoles and disc players. It's the software - in this case the movies - that carry the high margin profits. And in disc sales, yes, BR is outselling HD-DVD worldwide.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -7/+19Of course, they are still selling HD-DVDs and the 360 HD-DVD player... so only partially blu-ray.
- lickmygiggle, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13Hi, since when is 20 gigabytes "a little more"?
- psi0nicgh0st, on 10/10/2007, -6/+17Sony winning a format war? Hell is about to freeze over.....
- djSyndrome, on 10/10/2007, -5/+16Do you really think your average Wal-Mart customer is the kind to buy hi-def players and discs? HD-DVDs and Blu-Ray discs are bought by people with money, and most people in that category are smart enough to shop online. Wal-Mart sales won't mean a thing until the price for both formats goes way down, and by then the format war will be all but over.
As far as studios changing sides, I don't see Sony Pictures *ever* printing an HD-DVD disc, and the Disney Blu-Ray deal has been lucrative for them so far. Even Universal - the last BR holdout - has given hints that they'll at least support both shortly. - Harrison88, on 10/10/2007, -2/+13It's in Australia too.
- SpongeBad, on 10/10/2007, -2/+13Both the Blu Ray and HD DVD camps have been very specific that their sales figures do not include free discs given away with players as a promotion. The exception to that would be in-store promotions (e.g. Best Buy decides to offer a free copy of The Matrix box set with HD DVD players), as the studios have no way to know those were "free" (the cost of the box set is just included in the price of the player).
- colincornaby, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11They're just selling a Bluray player as their only standalone so far. They're not dumping HD-DVD. Quote from Target:
"We are not proclaiming one format vs. the other as the preferred consumer technology, and software will continue to be available to our guests in both the Blu-ray and HD DVD format," said Target spokeswoman Brie Heath. - luke16, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9Woolworths is still big here in england =)
- SpongeBad, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10People like Blu-Ray because it actually has the support of most of the major studios. And yes, the data issue is a big one. More storage space = less compression. Less compression = better picture quality, better audio quality. Also, more storage space = more extras, if that's your thing.
- speedk0re, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8An extinct mammal people would steal candy from in the 70s/80s
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -11/+18Whoever they are, they don't sound like they're in any condition to decide the format war. Still, Blu-Ray FTW
- curitibagarrett, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9Yah they used to be in the U.S. a while ago...haven't seen one here in a long time.
- Ajajadude, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9Anyone else find the irony in people saying Microsoft just wants to give us consumers a choice?
If the HD-DVD (or Blu-Ray) failed, they could still use that format for games. Just treat it like console cartridges of old. Couldn't do anything else with those other than play games. - tizz66, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Yeah, they aren't going to single-handedly decide who wins (we don't really have any retailers with the power of, say, Walmart [except perhaps Tescos]), but they are still one of the bigger retailers of games/DVD's in the UK, so I'd say it's fairly significant in the UK market.
- dle5, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Dugg down for not knowing how to spell lose.
- scabbers, on 10/10/2007, -3/+9Until you can sell a player for under £150, nobody is going to give a crap what you stock. It's only the PS3 owners buying those few blu-ray titles.
- CReyes4182, on 10/10/2007, -3/+9Most? Wow and no link to prove that? Its not a surprise. The fact is that only a couple of movies use MPEG 2 and last time I checked Sony replaced those movies for free. They use the same compression.
- CReyes4182, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Thanks for repeating a comment thats been posted 5 times already. Im sure it wont get old by the next 10 people that post it again.
- CReyes4182, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7Not sure but I think Target, maybe blockbuster, and Disney are relevant where you live ;P
- jmchez, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Why did Woolworth's close shop in the USA when it still survives in the UK?
Back in its heyday, there was a Woolworth's in every single neighborhood in America. In New York City there could be 4 Woolworth's with a 5 by 5 block area! They were as ubiquitous as Starbucks. They sold everything that Walmart and Target now sell, there was even a pet shop in every store. Somehow their management noticed that all of those stores were seating on top of a real estate gold mine but never though of building a giant Woolworth's in the suburbs, which is what Target and WalMart ended up doing to a very profitable result.
The Woolworth's building in New York still stand and has one of the most ornate lobby ever. It even has a gargoyle in the shape of Frank Woolworth counting his nickel and dimes. Obviously, Mr. Woolworth had a sense of humor. - PommyBrit, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6This is significant if this applies to the UK - Woolworths is a very big chain here.
- JayD16, on 10/10/2007, -7/+12Everyone would be happy but Toshiba and Universal but screw them. They orchestrated this format war in the first place.
- aegis9975, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Not in America. Still has a decent presence in the UK and other regions. It pulled out of the US awhile back.
- tizz66, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7Actually, it isn't (as such) :) It was an American company, but they didn't do so well over there, so now they only exist in the UK (and do well too). But yes, at one time they had stores in the US.
- Azriel7, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Yea, but the limited capacity of current dvd's will hurt them in the long run. Take heavenly sword for example, it has filled up a WHOLE blueraydisk, the only way we could get it on the 360 is to have multiple dvd's, this is mainly because of the HD content that eats up so much room. Ah, I remember those games that used to run on 7 cd's back in the day, I guess we are going full circle. Not having HD-DVD included in every 360 at the getgo was pretty short sighted on Microsoft part.
- 808kick, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6Can you even buy cutting edge electronics at wal-mart?
- aggies11, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6Good.
I don't care who wins, as long as someone does, format wars are so unnecessary.
Aggies - djSyndrome, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5To say you missed the point would be a colossal understatement.
- iampoch, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6Run me through that again...how is storage not that important? Last I checked, the reason why Beta fumbled to VHS is because of the much limited storage capacity. Isn't it also why DVDs are superior to CDs? Storage IS important, moreso right now that digital media hold much more relevancy than it did in the past.
- faston, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Sony eventually made VHS players and they were 10x more committed to Beta than they are to Blu-ray.
- SpongeBad, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Bah...almost double...that's nothing!
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