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- triplehelix, on 11/19/2007, -18/+99anti-sony people can spin it however they want, but this is nothing but good news.
- JayD16, on 11/19/2007, -13/+60My goodness...Joystiq is certainly as biased as ever. The comments must be 80% Mario avatars.
- mywhitenoise, on 11/19/2007, -12/+49Too bad we can't have half of your useless comments. ***** off.
- Mejogid, on 11/19/2007, -8/+38I'm beginning to wonder if there's any action Sony could take that wouldn't be labelled as desperate or arrogant...
- adidos, on 11/19/2007, -1/+30naive!!!
- djSyndrome, on 11/19/2007, -6/+3310 grand is chump change to a developer like Capcom or Konami, who bought all of their PS3 devkits long ago anyways. This move was designed to lure smaller developers to help create indie games.
- JayD16, on 11/19/2007, -8/+34Truspector must be back from his vacation. Party's over guys...
- dn11, on 11/19/2007, -2/+28I truly don't understand this BS fanboi war. the Wii and the PS3 aren't even truly competing products (sales should show that). Some people really need to get a life and stop worrying about defending their chosen piece of consumer electronics.
- NGliam, on 11/19/2007, -10/+35Yeah, I'm getting sick of these crappy 60fps 1080p games.. wish I could go back to some good old SNES.
- Zamfir, on 11/19/2007, -7/+29Joystiq is a Nintendo ass blaster's paradise.
- TangentThought, on 11/19/2007, -2/+22Ladies and gentlemen, this is what you would call an "idiot".
- McInternet, on 11/19/2007, -3/+22protip: when they added avatars, everyone's was defaulted to that
- Abno, on 11/19/2007, -4/+23They did the same thing a year after the PS2 launch.
- iofthestorm, on 11/19/2007, -1/+18Uhh, the XNA dev kit isn't the full dev kit that real developers use fyi.
- xOpifex, on 11/19/2007, -4/+21I think no console manufacturer does this because if they were free every joe schmo could start writing code for their console which could lead to more cheating, malicious use, etc. By making it fairly expensive you know that the people buying it are going to use it legitimately.
- charlescheese, on 11/19/2007, -6/+23Trollspector hath returned. Cue the theme song kids. What Troll, did you actually stop trolling the PS3 on Digg for a week to play 360 games? Somehow I doubt it. My guess is your mommy and daddy took you on vacation for a little while, maybe disney world or something, and now you're back to trolling more than gaming.
- liquisoft, on 11/19/2007, -6/+22Call me naive, but I didn't know that the dev kits had to be purchased. I thought that the console companies gave them to developers in order to, you know, get people to make games for the console.
- charlescheese, on 11/19/2007, -4/+19If a dev kit used to cost 10,000 and now it's 5000 grand, and it takes 40-50 people a year to make a game, that's about 6-12 salaries for a company that's going to make a game on the PS3. I'd say that makes the price cut significant for newer developers. Sony has always tried to cultivate new development on its consoles, and this is just the start.
- bejayel, on 11/19/2007, -3/+17This is awesome. Given most of the expected titles are made by the huge companies. This gives a chance to the little guy. They always have good idea, just not enough money to make it happen.
- MagicCake, on 11/19/2007, -3/+16Translation: I'm too poor to afford one and it makes me angry! As a result I've never played a PS3 in my life!
- Paroparo, on 11/19/2007, -14/+26This isn't really as big as it sounds. Dev kits are the tools developers need to make games, but the actual costs of maintaining development aren't much affected by this, nor are the licensing fees Sony asks from third party games. The big black box is still way too expensive for little developers to work on, and the big developers all bought truckloads of these things ages ago.
Also, the PS3 kits are still 5 times more expensive than those of the Wii, and around the same price as the 360's, so this is more like leveling the playing field than gaining an advantage. - Rev0lver, on 11/19/2007, -2/+13Lay off the turpentine.
- inactive, on 11/19/2007, -1/+11Actually, FTA it used to cost $20k, and now it costs $10k.
- cusoman, on 11/19/2007, -1/+11Don't digg him down. That's the truth. Anyone who has frequented the site for any length of time knows that, this guy included *points at himself*
- TheBaronVonJim, on 11/19/2007, -0/+9Good news for small dev studios IMO.
That said, a free 'express'-like version of the SDK would be really good for helping people to learn the Cell processor, and for PS3 homebrew. - inactive, on 11/19/2007, -3/+11This is nothing but good news. Please all you Xbox people just go back to playing Halo or something and realize that any push for more cheaper better and possibly diverse games is a win for all game consoles. ***** ovens on fire bbiaf
- Abno, on 11/19/2007, -2/+10Trolling seems to have gone up significantly in the last day. Now that one of their leaders has returned, all the little trolls feel safe to come out and play. Just look at the PS3grid thread, there's people trying to spin that and F@H into a negative.
Maybe the steady flow of quality games and the successful launch of the 40GB console has them worried, and they thought it was time to organize a new surge. Unfortunately for them, they're struggling to come up with new material for their trolling, and their old material doesn't hold any weight anymore. - Coopjust, on 11/19/2007, -1/+9I agree. Not only would it help sony to beef up the amount of games in their PS3 Store (and make more money as a result), it would help to make future game developers learn and excel at PS3 coding.
Sort of like the free version of Visual Basic- people learn how to code in it, and they buy it when they outgrow it, since they're familiar with it. And it would give startup companies a fighting chance. - totorototoro, on 11/19/2007, -13/+21to take a break from the platform bashers for a second...Shouldn't dev kits be basically free? Shouldn't all the game console manufacturers be sending these machines out to every major dev. house as fast as they can make them?
- sint4x, on 11/19/2007, -2/+9You wipe your ass with PissS?
- Burn, on 11/19/2007, -1/+8And 50% as a fraction is...
- smoger, on 11/19/2007, -5/+12..the reason that dev's can't afford to work on the ps3 isn't because of the dev kit pricing -- that's competitive to the 360's -- the reason that they can't afford to do it is because in order to make a fleshed out game on the ps3, they'd need to be able to sell that game to nearly everyone who owns a ps3 in order to profit on it. lower install base = lower potential for ROI.
- staticneuron, on 11/19/2007, -1/+8No.... they don't. Ever heard of a title named flow? Super stardust? The total cost of a title is dependant on the devs ambition and cutting the cost of Dev kits and tools is a HUGE first step.
- slundal, on 11/19/2007, -4/+11we heard you the first time.
- inactive, on 11/19/2007, -2/+9The free version is running linux on a ps3
- xOpifex, on 11/19/2007, -12/+18Not by people on Digg. Just like Ron Paul is the savior of the universe and conservatives eat babies, Sony is an evil corporation who can't do anything right.
- staticneuron, on 11/19/2007, -5/+11Just because devs couldn't afford to work on the PS3 that doesn't equate to them not "wanting" to work on the PS3.
- xdevit, on 11/19/2007, -8/+14Last i checked the 360 was ~$2000. Good to see Sony helping out the little guys alittle.
Note to those who say XNA for $100. yes you can do SOME development for the 360 with it. but you cant publish anything or even share as far as i know. - rusty123jimi, on 11/19/2007, -1/+7What everyone else said...plus....***** off troll!!!!
- freakstyle571, on 11/19/2007, -1/+7I think what he was getting at was that Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo should be giving it away to developers. Not hocking it off to anyone who wants it. And it makes sense... give EA and other big companies their copies free and as early as possible. But if Joe Schmo wants to buy it, "okay, that will be $xxxx.xx"
- EvilBillCosby, on 11/19/2007, -1/+6so you are comparing a market share dominator with a company trying to break into a new industry?
too funny - BearinG, on 11/19/2007, -1/+6Have to agree, that is a good move for the PS3
- rarson, on 11/20/2007, -1/+6You're the moron. The PS3 is expensive enough as it is, and you think Sony should give them away, along with all the first-party tools and middleware required to program and debug the games? And I suppose they should offer developer support for free as well (as that is part of the price of a dev kit).
- wentwj, on 11/19/2007, -3/+8How the hell is this inaccurate? The title says they cut the dev kit prices in half... thats what they did. So how is it in any way inaccurate?
- shinythingy, on 11/19/2007, -2/+7Why must you be so misinformed and stupid?
- triplehelix, on 11/19/2007, -0/+5mostly to control who's hands it gets into.
- Xlr8ed, on 11/19/2007, -2/+7They could just make it free and properly vet the companies getting the kits.
- Shaflugi, on 11/20/2007, -1/+5Yeah, I'm not trying to be negative or anything, but why do the devkits cost anything to begin with? PC development is completely free, what do these devkits contain that make them so expensive, and why should developers have to pay for them? Doesn't Sony already get a cut of the profits made off PS3 games sold?
- sint4x, on 11/19/2007, -1/+5So is Toshiba with HD-DVD, looks like its time for Blu-ray.
Idiot. - rusty123jimi, on 11/19/2007, -1/+5You can use your 360 to get all angles wipping your ass! Go away freaking troll!
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