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- charlescheese, on 01/03/2008, -8/+109Oh I never saw this coming... This should squash the rumor for another two days at least before some talks to Konami's janitor's 5 year old unnamed daughter, who will unequivocally confirm that MGS4 is in fact an xbox 360 exclusive forever and the PS3 version was just a lie.
- inactive, on 01/03/2008, -10/+95There would be no reason for Konami to announce an Xbox 360 version of the game if it is going to be released a year after the PS3 version... it would only take sales away from the PS3 version. This rumor won't die until at least a year after the game comes out on PS3.
- Mk3890, on 01/03/2008, -3/+46For the millionth time.
- BlGBOSS, on 01/03/2008, -10/+51Good, I've been looking for an excuse to get a PS3. All I have now is a 360, and while it's great, I'm still really hoping Sony can make a come back because they do a really good job. The PS3 can actually play games without overheating and breaking every couple of months.
- shinythingy, on 01/03/2008, -8/+43Yeah because porting MGS2 to the XBOX worked so well for sales didn't it?
- charlescheese, on 01/03/2008, -5/+38And what about MGS3? PS2 exclusive...still.
If you don't care about MGS, why do bother comment in MGS threads? - CarzorStelatis, on 01/03/2008, -6/+37If you're that bothered about MGS4, just buy a PS3 ffs. Bluray looks like winning the format war anyway, so you'll be getting a very good high-def movie player into the bargain. (Note: I'm a 360 owner, don't have a PS3, just tiring of the fanboy whining)
- LordSeth, on 01/03/2008, -8/+32Ok this has been officially a PS3 Exclusive and confirmed to be Never coming to the 360 how many times now? Why do xbox fanboys continue to beleive this will change. I like the 360 as much as an average gamer but this is not and will never be made for the 360.
- mywhitenoise, on 01/03/2008, -1/+24How the hell do you get 'confirmation' from "There are no plans for a 360 version"? Seriously, some of you guys are just ***** nuts.
- Sparkster185, on 01/03/2008, -2/+22Watch the gameplay trailer from E3. They've added lots of depth to the game. It looks incredible.
- Khabi, on 01/03/2008, -4/+21MGS3 Ported to another console? Nope. Just because it happened in the past doesn't mean its going to happen in the future.
- tehforumkat, on 01/03/2008, -5/+22its not coming to 360!!! they've said like eight million ***** times that it isn't. ***** DEAL WITH IT!!!
[sarcasm]but i hear halo is coming to PS3. microsoft said it isn't so IT MUST BE.[sarcasm] - stafax, on 01/03/2008, -3/+19I thought they already officially confirmed this like three times already
- Bulletbillx, on 01/03/2008, -0/+16No. More like how RE 4 was supposed to be exclusive to Gamecube.
- joehobbes, on 01/03/2008, -16/+31Yeah, just enough to technically meet their agreement of an "exclusive".
Then its on to porting it elsewhere... - Dibbz, on 01/03/2008, -1/+15Erm... Halo?
- truspect0r, on 01/03/2008, -5/+19First Apple puts Blu-ray on their systems and then this...
- InfinitySnatch, on 01/03/2008, -1/+14Nuh-uh.
- mageofdeath, on 01/03/2008, -4/+16yeah, I've gotten really tired of all the skewed lopsided fanboy stuff, so I just gave up, we don't convince anybody to switch sides...
all we end up doing is frustrating ourselves, so we need to recognize the waste of time that is fanboyism, and spend that time playing games, which is what we all end up supporting in one form or another isn't it?
in fact I would say that all the time we spend fanboying would be better spent petitioning our congresspeople to allow AO games to be published for _______ console, cuz then we could have gotten a gem with manhunt.... - deaftly, on 01/03/2008, -3/+15The wii can barely handle ps2 ports
- jeremy1967, on 01/03/2008, -2/+12You do care. Your obsession with all things PS3 shows that news like this will cause you to lose sleep tonight.
- dandonia, on 01/03/2008, -1/+11both machines have 512 ram they are just split differently
- BinaryDelt, on 01/03/2008, -7/+17Will you let me be an irrational fanboy in peace please?
- fantasticFlan, on 01/03/2008, -2/+112/3 is not every.
- kingmanic, on 01/03/2008, -2/+11It was a year after the N/A release for MGS2 and MGS3 has not yet been ported anywhere.
- inactive, on 01/03/2008, -2/+11"Its also got less RAM"
Both have 512....
PS3s GPU is faster and more powerful, AND offloading culling to cell doubles the polygon count - Nobi-Wan, on 01/03/2008, -0/+9Cyborg ninjas are WAY more believable than vampires or force field chicks, dude.
And when my wife wants me to take out the trash I just hide under a cardboard box. Problem solved. - kingmanic, on 01/03/2008, -1/+9The GPU on both are on par in general, with the 360 having unified but slower shaders. Meaning it's easier to keep it busy. The GPU's are very comparable but the PS3 RSX needs a whole lot of tickering to get the same juice out of. The Ram is the same except the PS3 is divided into two areas. 256 mb of DDR3 and 256 mb of slightly faster XDR. The xbox has a unified 512 DDR3. The advantage the 360 has is it's easy to adjust reserved ram on the fly making programing easier. The advantage for the PS3 is the 1/2 the ram is clocked at the same speed the CPU is thus reducing the the cache miss penalties and perhaps some other performance improvements.
Your DVD games example is flawed. PC games use lossless and slow encryption on their textures. The work to decompress them is done up front on install. 360 games especially don't have this luxury since MS still mandates non-HD support for licensing. Most console games have their textures uncompressed on disc for performance purposes. Texture right now look fine because texture are small right now. But compare out of the box 640x640 oblivion PC to the 2048x2048 texture pack and tell me there isn't a difference at 1024x768(most common PC resolution right now). a HD TV at true 1080p is 1920×1080. So yes in fact you'd ntoice a difference. Even at the 720p mark it's 1280×720.
Also, the Cell isn't actually "faster". It's different. The 360 uses 3 3.2ghz specialized PPC cores while the PS3 uses 1 3.2 GHZ PPC core and 6 SPU's. Actually 8 on di but 1 turned off for yield and 1 taken up for other purposes. In general if you were doing standard computing the 360 is technically better however for specialized tasks like vector math the PS3 is better. Coincidentally many gaming problems break down itno vector math. - staticneuron, on 01/04/2008, -1/+9Banmaster you obviously haven't been keeping up on popular techniques that devs used with the PS3. Most of the exclusive devs don't try to compress the textures into the ram but stream them from the disc. That is a luxary and technique afforded by blu ray's disc size.
- inactive, on 01/03/2008, -1/+9MGS is voiced....
- charlescheese, on 01/03/2008, -3/+11Huh? Look at my comment history, I very very rarely ever post in a 360 thread. Since this thread involves MGS4 (a PS3 exclusive title), which I will own, I think I can post in here. For the record, I like the 360, and there are at least three exclusive 360 games I'd really like to own on the 360. I just think the PS3 is a better value since I personally need wifi, bluray, free online, and the ability to upgrade my HD to a 500gb drive if I choose. I will eventually own a 360 though, and I don't think people are nuts or stupid for owning one. I get why people like it.
For the record though 95% of what I comment on is PS3 related in PS3 submissions. I don't venture into Halo threads telling people how much Halo sucks (I don't think Halo sucks, just an example) just because I have a PS3 and Halo isn't on PS3. - DarkShroud, on 01/03/2008, -1/+9$$400-$500, there is currently no version of the PS3 that costs $600.
- monkeyrun, on 01/03/2008, -8/+16xBox Fanboy: YAY That confirms "MGS4: 360 Special Edition" for xBox 360 !!!
- mywhitenoise, on 01/03/2008, -2/+10You get a ***** $500 console.
- DarkShroud, on 01/03/2008, -2/+10The XDR memeory is a lot more than "slightly faster." Also its been reported that MGS4 is going to use a duel-layer blu-ray disc because it's so damn big. So a 360 version even after compression and degrading would still need at least 4 duel-layer DVDs.
- FriedTurkey, on 01/04/2008, -2/+9Konami can issue a press release daily and it won't change the fact that fanboys want to believe it is coming to the 360.
- exscind, on 01/03/2008, -7/+14I don't know why you're getting downed; you're right on the money.
- monkeyrun, on 01/03/2008, -1/+8Konami ... Capcom .... Konami ... Capcom ....
Well they are all Japanese. - JapaneseEconomy, on 01/03/2008, -4/+10Yes, with your wallet and heart.
- Sutanreyu, on 01/04/2008, -3/+9MGS4 is not just "one freaking game".
It's one freaking amazing game that the 360 will never have, and that 360 owners would want. - mywhitenoise, on 01/03/2008, -2/+8Not if Sony pays them enough...which if they're smart, they will. Sony knows this game is going to sell consoles, it would be unwise to move it anywhere else.
- DarkShroud, on 01/04/2008, -1/+7Except there is no real demand. Most 360 fans just want the PS3 to loose another exclusive.
- davewelsh79, on 01/03/2008, -2/+8Yes. That is the word. You cannot "squash" a rumor. You quash it. Look it up.
- BlGBOSS, on 01/03/2008, -1/+7Yeah man, they've really upped the bar, the new game play looks incredible. Kojima productions has the right attitude toward game design, this is from their website:
"The 21st century isn't about "selling good things" or "good games finding success."
It's about finding a hit business for everybody, be it movies, music, or publications.
However, lucky hits have no face (GENE). This era (SCENE) has no memory.
Even if a product makes a profit, no memories (MEME) are left behind.
With games, before there was business, there was a culture.
Are games simply products that help you gleefully kill time?
Are games just a tool for big corporations to make profit?
Kojima Productions is a group of creators. We want to send out "products
with faces" to the world.
We want to sponser quality products that are worth spending
your precious time on.
An era of "selling great products" is something we aim to usher in
-- it's our mission as Kojima Productions. It's our mission (SENSE)." - kingmanic, on 01/04/2008, -1/+7As well as HD caching. A option Microsoft has thus far not allowed due to keeping support for the core boxes.
- triplehelix, on 01/04/2008, -1/+7just for the record, i didn't digg you down for voicing an opinion, i dugg you down for being a dick about it.
- mywhitenoise, on 01/03/2008, -1/+7Yet you were convinced by a huge, chain-gun weilding Raven, and a half man/half cyborg ninja? It's a game, don't take it too seriously.
- inactive, on 01/03/2008, -1/+7Snake Eater, Subsistence, Portable Ops, Portable Ops+, Acid, and Acid 2 have remained exclusive.
MGS 1 and 2 have not.
That's not most - fantasticFlan, on 01/03/2008, -5/+11Don't remember where I heard this, but there are supposedly other games for the PS3.
- charlescheese, on 01/03/2008, -3/+8It's English, and you can squash a rumor just like a bug if you choose. Ain't that right? ;)
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