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Improving PS3 visuals with a simple display setting in XMB?

techbugtv.com — The general response about 360/PS3 comparisons is that the PS3 versions always seemed washed out. The video claims that setting the RGB settings to "Full" instead of "Limited" fixes this problem. Apparently Super-white setting should be set to "On" as well. I would (Click on the link to read more)!

Who dugg this? Made popular Dec 23, 2007

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  • mywhitenoise, on 12/23/2007, -2/+102I've been saying that forever. Set your RGB to 'Full'.
  • vinht426, on 12/23/2007, -1/+90when i first got my ps3 i was just messing with my hdmi settings and set the RGB to full to mess around and just left it that way cause 'full' sounded better than 'limited' ... huh.. who knew!
  • tarjan, on 12/23/2007, -1/+73full rgb means that the ps3 will understand that 0-20ire is not black and that your set can reproduce an rgb signal of 0-50. Super white is the same thing but between 80-100ire or around 200-255. So in reality they are taking an 8bit (0-255) rgb signal, and dropping it to about 155 possible settings between the lightest and darkest image on the screen. In most cases they screw up contrast pretty badly.

    Without these settings on, they are guessing (rightly I might add) that the standard television is setup to be watched in daylight by someone who really doesn't know what they are doing. This is not so you or anyone takes offense, just the way it works. If you have your television in "dynamic" or your contrast and brightness set to 100, you are the target for having both on off.

    Simple quiz, what does brightness change? I would bet that 70% of you will get this wrong. Give up? Brightness sets the minimum level of black your television can produce. It has *nothing* to do with how bright your television is. Yeah, stupid name for the setting, I agree. The reason is just that you are raising the bottom, so dark items start to appear brighter. Contrast is what actually sets how much light the television throws out when sent a maximum white signal (rgb 255 or 100ire)

    My suggestion is to look for avia, dve, or download some proper images/grey patterns and learn how to setup your television. A basic contrast and brightness setting will dramatically improve what you see, as will turning off any "dynamic contrast" crap. Then you will see your game how it was supposed to be viewed. Then turn on both full and super white. Should be a huge difference.

    If you REALLY want to get into it, try a spyder or i2pro or some other measurement tool and setup your color balance and gamma (rate at which your set gets brighter when given a straight ramped signal.) My caution to you on this is, unless you are prepared to spend HOURS AND HOURS trying to get it right, leave it along and do not obsess.


  • EDmAN, on 12/23/2007, -0/+36I am not sure why Sony hasn't made this feature more obvious, but I think the Limited is the default because if you set it to full on some LCD displays you get a lot of black-wash (where all you blacks blend together). This happenes when the contrast ration of your TV is low. The TV (contrast 1200:1) that I owned when I first bought my PS3 had this problem, but the new Samsung Plasma (contrast 15000:1) that I bought looks excellent and definately a lot better of Full. I don't think the white setting makes any differenct whatsoever though at least not on my set. That being said, I don't think it has any effect on the PS3s ability to play the games, it doesn't slow the game down, or cause the PS3 more work.
  • scabbers, on 12/23/2007, -3/+33They should have an initial setup and a "which looks better?" test for these settings.

    I'm not surprised that a gaming website can't set up their equipment properly before declaring a game 'washed-out'. I'm actually amazed most of those guys can find the [on] button.
  • inactive, on 12/23/2007, -4/+32I suppose Sony is to blame at least partially for not setting it to Full by default, and not giving a better explanation of what the settings mean when you're at the menu to change them.
  • inactive, on 12/23/2007, -4/+29Plus, you can spend a lot more time playing games when you're out of work on disability because you snapped your spine while trying to move the TV.
  • etruscan, on 12/23/2007, -8/+29It was never a lame duck. It was slower to market, and Sony was charging too much for it. Now, when you compare the two hard-core consoles (360 and PS3) the PS3 comes out in front, in my mind... thanks to a price drop that puts it on par with the 360. In fact, it's a better value since you get the BluRay with the package. The games catalog may not be as full yet - but I think that will change soon, and there are some fantastic looking titles on their way... (Killzone 2, anyone?)
  • dansmeek, on 12/23/2007, -4/+24yeah, i did this when assassins creed came out after reading it on a msg board.
    the other thing (which gamestop complained about in the cod4 review) is to override 720p to get games into 1080p. i.e. in COD4 ps3 auto sets it on 720p (since it was designed for both 360/ps3 in this resolution). but the box "says it will run on 1080p." which it does. you have to go into the resolution settings and UNCHECK 720p, so that only 1080p is checked. and bam, you'll get the game at 1080p.
    the thing is, it's not that big of a difference, if at all. its simply 720p upscaled to 1080p.. not really 1080p. the 360 automatically will upscale everything to 1080p for whatever reason. probably because it came out sooner and they did not realize that so many games would only be taking advantage of 720p.
    anyway. i can not understand why ps3 offers "limited" RGB as default. the only possible thing i can think of is it won't tax the processor as much. but this isn't a handheld.. it's not like their is battery life to worry about.
  • topbravo, on 12/23/2007, -1/+20you need to reset your contrast and brightness settings on your tv again.
  • mywhitenoise, on 12/23/2007, -1/+18They really should, I have no idea what the 3 types of 'bitmapping' do under the audio section.
  • 0ceanic, on 12/23/2007, -1/+18some tvs (especially on a global scale) dont support the full color range. and you will see the wrong hue or a black and white image or a blank screen instead.

    but thats like .00001%, and its unlikely that american ps3 owners would have such a ***** tv.
  • charlescheese, on 12/23/2007, -1/+17Yep, when I discovered this on accident it was such a huge improvement. Both that and the super white setting make for one hell of a great picture.
  • drizzlelicious, on 12/23/2007, -4/+19Where do you live?
  • JigoroKano, on 12/23/2007, -0/+14Definitely set RGB full if your display supports it, which is highly likely. RGB full expands the color palette by quite a bit. But many displays do not support "Super-White" and turning this on can wash out the lights.
  • Dantetheinferno, on 12/24/2007, -1/+14It's going to be alright.

    Puberty is just around the corner.
  • EDmAN, on 12/23/2007, -1/+13You are right about the 1080p not looking any different. The game designer dictates what resolution the game defaults too, I think 720p is native(or closer to it) and actually looks better than the 1080p. I switched back and forth and I decided to go with 720.
  • Whackly, on 12/23/2007, -4/+15And then spend hundreds of dollars per year and waste hours and hours trying to make sure your pc is always upgraded enough to play the newest releases. Then replace the machine every 3 years to the tune of a grand or more. Also have to sit in an office chair in front of a monitor playing by yourself instead of on your couch in front of your huge HDTV playing with your friends and family. And don't forget about driver, compatibility, and hardware/warranty issues or the 5 minutes or more it takes to get the thing up and running. And please ignore the other 1000 reasons why console gaming has become better than pc gaming.
  • Caliber, on 12/23/2007, -1/+12just discover this setting the other day
  • slaystench, on 12/23/2007, -0/+10I always wondered why my PS3 graphics looked better then those comparison vids, maybe this is why.
  • AnimZero, on 12/23/2007, 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  • MaTT2011, on 12/23/2007, -3/+12Why in THE HELL would sony ship their units with these settings? It doesn't make any sense....
  • charlescheese, on 12/23/2007, -4/+12I have a bravia and the upscaler in the bravia is far better than anything the PS3 can do. There may be some people where an upscaled image looks better if your tv has a really awful upscaler, but I think in most cases you're better off letting the TV do the upscaling. I'm pretty sure that upscaling to 1080p results in a performance hit as well, so you may want to just let your tv do it, especially if you can't see a difference.
  • SystmBetatester, on 12/23/2007, -4/+12360 has plenty if color fixing options as well... its up to the user to set the best settings but for comparison i think reviewes just go by whats default.
  • wush, on 12/23/2007, -2/+10They are programmable GPUs. The graphics are as good as you have the skill to make them.
  • wush, on 12/23/2007, -5/+13so is your face
  • madk, on 12/23/2007, -2/+10Any tech details as to what exactly this does? If it gives out a better picture why wouldn't it be enabled by default?
  • volacide, on 12/23/2007, -3/+11Black is supposed to look black.
  • charlescheese, on 12/23/2007, -1/+8Your Bravia certainly supports it. You probably need to redo your settings though if you did any calibration. The dark contrast settings in the advanced section need to be set properly or you'll have problems. I have a bravia and it looks wonderful.
  • pixelate, on 12/23/2007, -0/+7Dugg for the first part of your comment, but I don't agree with the last part.

    They most likely run these comparisons with both boxes at their default settings. It's the least biased way to do it. Sony should either have an initial setting that looks better on most TV's (instead of the complete opposite) or, as you said, have some kind of initial screen that tells you how to set it correctly. Sony's fault, not the websites'.
  • ericthegreat, on 12/23/2007, -6/+13Q
  • FoxOrian, on 12/23/2007, -0/+7I imagine it's set to Limited by default because alot of earlier HDMI-equipped HDTV's have an option that enables full color xvYCC profile modes. My older Samsung 40" from about two years ago had this option, and when I turned on xvYCC while the PS3 was on limited, the picture appeared exactly the same as if the TV had xvYCC off and the PS3 set to Full. If both the PS3 and the TV were set to full, the image became hyper-contrasty. I have a newer Samsung made this year, and the xvYCC option had been taken away since more devices were being released with Full RGB processing rather than the TV having to do it itself. I'd imagine Sony might make the Full RGB option default in a future firmware release.
  • YoctoYotta, on 12/23/2007, -2/+9Really, did you just insult the guy that gave the correct advice and then follow up by giving the wrong advice? You're an idiot.
  • chops, on 12/23/2007, -0/+6Quit digging this guy down, he's right. Older HDTV's just don't support it, mainly those without HDMI 1.3. The block test is an easy way to find out.
  • crazy25000, on 12/23/2007, -0/+6same thing happened with my PS3....after i changed the settings, everything looked sooo much better!
  • triplehelix, on 12/23/2007, -0/+6don't know what set he has, but the sony xbr2 series is widely regarded as one of the best sets on the market.
  • inactive, on 12/23/2007, -3/+9Oh... So you are a troll then, I see...
  • Trat, on 12/23/2007, -1/+7Can anyone with a PS3 on a full rgb TV confirm he sees 16 blocks of black on this image? http://sr-388.net/images/patterns/Brightness.jpg

    Put it on your PS3 and see if your set really is full rgb capable. The blocks you don't see correspond with the amount of black detail you'll miss when running full rgb on a set that isn't compatible with it. Try it.
  • frieddonuts, on 12/23/2007, -3/+9Not to mention wifi and the free PSN
  • tarjan, on 12/23/2007, -0/+6Nope, you are actually wrong (in most cases). Most modern sets actually use a separate brightness and backlight setting. True, some are combined, but it is not the standard and honestly I cant think of any that do that released in the past couple of years. In the majority of sets (samsung, toshiba, sony etc) made today brightness is an attempt to match the luminescence produced at the lowest settings to what the set actually produces. Otherwise known as setting what "black" really is, for that set. It does NOT adjust the backlight or overall luminescence.

  • skinrock, on 12/23/2007, -0/+5I never knew what this setting was, so I left it to default, because I figured they would pick the best setting. The Uncharted demo looks a little better with both of these settings changed, I can't tell with the Burnout demo.

    The only way I could see a difference was by keeping my eye on the Uncharted background theme and seeing the difference going from Full to Limited. I can't believe how washed out it looked...going back to Limited makes it look like there is a white overlay on the screen...I really thought it was just something to do with the menu at first.

    Thanks for the tips, I can only assume the game play is much better for me now.
  • inactive, on 12/23/2007, -5/+10post your gamer tag or you are a troll
  • Jholder112233, on 12/23/2007, -0/+5So... many... ACRONYMS.
  • augmental, on 12/23/2007, -0/+5Full is wayyyy too dark on my Pioneer plasma. If you are using a Pio plasma leave it on Limited. I didn't notice a color boost with Full either.
  • MasterPlayer, on 12/23/2007, -1/+6I think the default is limited because the full option only makes games played on an HDTV look better, and has no effect, and maybe even a detrimental effect on non HDTVs. I think the full option would make some games too dark to play on a non HDTV, and since only a fraction of people actually own an HDTV, Sony made the limited option the default. The PS3 should probably include an option during setup which asks the users if they have an HDTV, and tell them full RGB mode is recommended.
  • HappyScrappy, on 12/23/2007, -2/+7I disagree. I like the graphics on both. They both have lots of graphical potential, and so far 360 has realized this potential more often because PS3's graphics are somewhat more difficult to use effectively. This will likely change going forward, but I think the preponderance of cross-platform ports means neither platform is going to outshine the other significantly most of the time.
  • inactive, on 12/23/2007, -5/+10His 30-inch olde timey box has better blacks than your SXRD can product. Hence, he has a better picture than you.
  • AvidPreatorian, on 12/23/2007, -1/+6your mom is exciting
  • BCRazgriz, on 12/23/2007, -1/+6I'm a PC gamer all the way, I play AoE, CSS, HL2, TF2, CoD4, CoD2, BF2, BF1942, BF:V, and even a couple others. I also happen to own a PS3 and as a PC gamer I'll tell you you won't be able to build a decent computer for $500 with a 8800GT in it. Besides, not all games get ported to the PC, the few that do will probably be from the 360 due to Microsoft's Games for Windows.

    As far as console being better than PC, I don't think so, they both have their pros and cons, but neither is superior to the other.
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