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- inactive, on 04/22/2008, -5/+60$40
- Darrelc, on 04/22/2008, -12/+64"Besides, how many 'demos' give you 6 tracks and over 60 cars? None. "
Any how many demos cost 40 bucks? - vorbalhorde, on 04/22/2008, -8/+51How many cars are in GT4? 721
How many cars are in GT5:P? 60. It's an expensive demo. - staticneuron, on 04/22/2008, -42/+78This honestly makes no sense. For one he talks about the content. IMO, if he has paid for warhawk or games like shadowrun then it is way more than he should be used to getting. Besides, how many 'demos' give you 6 tracks and over 60 cars? None.
Then there is the physics and penalty aspect. You can adjust them yourselves. If you want the game to be more arcade like. Turn on all the assists and leave it at standard physics and keep your cars on automatic. But if you really want to go at it like a simulation turn of the assists and set it to manual and professional. The game isn't flawed if you 'choose' to play it liek an arcade game or if you 'choose' to try to exploit it. If you play the races like you are racing a car, you hit the wall and then you would either spinout or reduce greatly in speed (in s class receive a penalty).
If you rent this game, I would be surprised if you made it to S class which unlocks Qt tune which is what makes prologue worth it.
IMO, he is right in saying that this is will make you want to see GT5 but I disagree with his demo statement. I have never played a 'demo' with this much content depth and replay. I have 4 videos on my GT TV not to mention the track rundowns, the 16 player online play and the sequential classes to go through and otain 60+ cars. This doesn't sound like a demo to me..... more like..... a little bit like...... a prologue. - truspector, on 04/22/2008, -26/+51I think a $20 price point would be easier to swallow, but with all of the issues in this game, I don't know if I would have bitten at $20 either. No damage modeling once again (promised in an update but I'm not holding my breath), no online matches with friends (random matches only), no voice chat online (completely unacceptable for 2008), no car tuning, absolutely retarded AI, and only six tracks.
If Polyphony would give me a credit towards the final game for buying prologue, I'm in, but if you buy prologue and then get the full GT5 you're buying all of the content in prologue twice and that's a load of crap. - wageslaven, on 04/22/2008, -19/+39Call it a Demo or dont call it a demo. I dont care. For the purpose of this conversation, I'll call it GT5-Lite.
For the Sony owners who think this is a great deal, and dead set against it being called "a demo".
Let me explain it to you; what is happening is Sony is charging $40 in place of what they used to give for free as a Demo.
I'll accept that this is bigger than "a demo" -- sure. But who cares?
At the end of the day, owners of GT5-Lite are going to have less than GT5. So, why pay $40 for something you're only going to replace in the future?
You people are *TOTALLY* missing the point on this $40 GT5-Lite deal.
This is the point: If you are a game fan, and you cant wait to try the next GT game, Sony is charging you $40 for what is normally a *DEMO* everywhere else.
And, if you want the whole game -- and you want to try before you buy via a "Demo" -- you cant, in order to do that, you're going to pay $100.
GT5 is going to cost $100 for anyone who cares about the GT series -- and that is the bottom line.
Sony isnt doing *ANYONE* any favours by releasing GT5-Lite for $40 -- they are exploiting their fanbase.
Call GT5P anything you want, but if i was a big-GT fan, I wouldnt be thanking sony for charging me $100 to enjoy GT5. - mywhitenoise, on 04/22/2008, -6/+23It wont let me respond directly to wageslaven.
Oh well, $40 for a game I get to preview a year in advance isn't that big of a deal. You have no problem paying $50 a year to play online on your 360, I have no problem paying $40 for a decent preview of a game. - djSyndrome, on 04/22/2008, -3/+17I don't know why you're getting dugg down. For $40 I would have expected simple things like lobbies and voice chat, and although I knew they wouldn't be in there, I'm still disappointed anyway. I still enjoy it, but now that it's been released in all territories PD really need to get to work on the updates.
- logicalnoise, on 04/22/2008, -12/+25it does make sense. You said it yourself. your 40 dollars just gets you something that makes you want to spend another 60 on the real game. If it was an enclosed game you'd be set for another 4 years til GT6 comes out.
- HenvY, on 04/22/2008, -2/+14Try driving a Ford GT with no traction control, professional physics and manual transmission! Just try it!
- DFENS, on 04/22/2008, -12/+24None. Therefore it's not a demo.
- staticneuron, on 04/22/2008, -3/+14Sega how slow can you be? The box says what is on the disc. When it is in your system it gets added content before you are even allowed to play. Oh and GT -TV has more videos than beyond the apex as well. I know, I know..... don't try to think so hard, you'll hurt yourself.
- Eddiecoaster, on 04/22/2008, -7/+18It is a really badass game, however I think $30 would have been more fair.
- Eparause, on 04/22/2008, -8/+18Correction: < 10% of a game = demo
- mywhitenoise, on 04/22/2008, -4/+14And the box also says it needs 5MB worth of installation, which is clearly false (needs 5GBs for the disc). The box also has dualshock compatible on the back, but games like Resistance, Ratchet, Warhawk, Motorstorm, Uncharted...and many others don't have the dualshock compatible logo, yet they have rumble when you play the games. The PS3 doesn't have a DTS-MA logo on the box, or casing...yet it does with the new firmware update.
Do you not know what a required patch is? - staticneuron, on 04/22/2008, -11/+20So it's an introduction right? I see. Without your wise copy and paste skills and the smarts to find a dictionary, I fear we would all be lost.
No one said it was a real game. Simply put it offers more than a demo. It takes more time to complete than any demo I've ever seen. - kanariya, on 04/23/2008, -0/+9It's a fair review.
I think this game is for GT fans only. If you're not a GT fan, you might feel that you're getting rip off like some people.
I personally enjoy this game way more than any other PS3 games so far, with the racing wheel. - mywhitenoise, on 04/22/2008, -3/+12"but what would make me happy is if some of my cars or in-game money transferred over."
That's what's supposed to happen. All your cars and money will be transfered over. - truspector, on 04/22/2008, -4/+13No asshat, I have a PS3 AND 360 AND they both currently work, but thanks for asking.
PSN: Truspector
XBL: Truspector
Feel free to send me a message on either and I'll make sure you get a nice reply, but don't bother with a friend request, I don't ***** like you. KTHXBYE - mywhitenoise, on 04/22/2008, -8/+17it has 76 cars NOW for US users. 71 cars for European. You are retarded.
- DarkPrince11, on 04/23/2008, -2/+10It's not a full release. It's a PROLOGUE.
- TheXeno, on 04/22/2008, -2/+10You do realize everything you just mentioned is optional. Usually people sort of buy what they think is worth it. To some, paying for Prologue and in turn GT5, will be more than worth it. To others, namely yourself, not worth it. I bought it, and think it's worth my money. Who are you to tell me or anyone who loves GT and what it provides, that it "exploits" us? That's not exploitation at all, it's preference. Other people place value on something you don't, and you mock them for it? Here's some advice, stop worrying what other people like, and just enjoy what you like and leave it at that.
- VinnieDaMac, on 04/22/2008, -2/+10Yes, it's a demo. Hence why it's called "Prologue," if you don't know what prologue means, it means introductory, beginning, preliminary, preface, etc. In other words, it's a demo/preview of the final game, but really, who cares what it's called. If you're happy with 70 cars, 6 tracks, and online play, buy it, who cares what other people are calling it. Personally, I wouldn't buy it because what kind of message does that send to publishers? It says you're willing to make two payments for a hyped up game; $40 for a demo and another $60 for the real game. $$$$$
- mywhitenoise, on 04/22/2008, -11/+19http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gran_Turismo_5_Prolog ...
"Spec II update adds new manufacturers, more stock cars and introduces racing cars, tuners and "Tuned" cars. Total number of playable cars reaches 71."
***** moron. - mywhitenoise, on 04/22/2008, -4/+12I own the game you stupid *****. You're prompted to an immediate patch (released a day or two before the game even hit shelves) once you pop in the game. YOU NEED TO INSTALL THIS PATCH BEFORE PLAYING. In this patch, there's an update with new cars...bringing the total to 76 cars.
Don't argue with me you stupid dip *****, I own the game, I see 76 cars. You're just talking out of your ass once again. - mywhitenoise, on 04/22/2008, -11/+1825% of any game is HUGE. No demo has that much content.
And I doubt GT5: Prologue is even 10% of the actual content of the final release...seeing as GT4 had over 700 cars, and Prologue only has 76 so far. - WhereAmI, on 04/22/2008, -8/+15Wow SEGA4life, I didn't know you couldn't read or count. Learn something new everyday.
- PleaseJustDie, on 04/22/2008, -2/+9you don't have to buy prologue, you can sit on your ass and wait for GT5 all you want and then only pay 60 dollars when it comes out. There is no stipulation anywhere that says "Gran Turismo 5 Prologue required to play Gran Turismo 5" So if you don't think paying 2/3rds the price for 2/3rds of a game is worth it, then don't ***** buy it. However I greatly enjoy Prologue and I don't think it is a waste of 40 bucks and I will continue to enjoy it until I get GT5.
- kanariya, on 04/23/2008, -2/+9Sony did not force people to buy the Prologue in order to play the Full version.
Buy or not, good deal or not, it's all up to the consumer.
You don't have to buy this IN ORDER to play and see what's the GT is like.
There's a FREE Prologue Demo on the Japan PS Store. FOR FREE. Anyone can download it.
It has 1 track and like 9 or 10 cars.
GT5 do not come until next year.
This is what Sony's offering for the GT fans until the full version is out.
Most of us (GT fans) are really happy that we are able to enjoy whatever they can offer while we wait for the final release.
If you don't think this is a good deal, just avoid it. What's the big deal? - jasmus, on 04/22/2008, -1/+8You're asking someone why they want car damage in a driving simulator? One that is well known for it's eye candy?
- coheedcollapse, on 04/22/2008, -2/+8First time I can honestly say I agree with you. I think it sucks that you spend 3/4ths of the full price on 1/10th the game or whatever and don't get any credit toward the full game. They should have made it $20 and give you $10 off of the full game with proof of purchase.
As for damage mapping, I hear they're adding that to prologue (and the full game) a while later with a patch. - logicalnoise, on 04/22/2008, -8/+14kane and lynch did better than most decent shooters doesn't make it any less of a waste of money.
- mywhitenoise, on 04/22/2008, -1/+7most online games on PS3 aren't bad. This is the first one (that I own at least) that doesnt have vioce or friend matching.
- KMartSheriff, on 04/22/2008, -2/+8Stop trolling, asshead.
- spidoman, on 04/22/2008, -9/+15I gotta agree with White noise, it's clearly not a demo, the content is much too deep to be a demo. At 40 dollars it is in fact a budget title compared to the 60 dollar regular games. The "review" is ridiculously biased, it's silly to read and take seriously.
And no, I'm not a fanboy, this is the first GT game that I've ever actually enjoyed. - lartones, on 04/22/2008, -1/+7Sorry, some of us don't mind paying $40 dollars for a "demo" of this game if the real thing isnt out for a year. I mean i've had this since the 16th and i've been playing it constantly, the S class is a ***** hard challenge on professional physics for some of the races(the last one.) Online is fun for me, when you only play with like 12 cars your experience is just fine.If you have nothing better to do than complain about a $40 dollar demo that alot of people love because it is a introduction to Gran Turismo 5 then go play your full Forza game.
- staticneuron, on 04/22/2008, -2/+8I understand where you are coming from but there has been a GT concept before in the past and a GT4 prologue. Looking back they were stand alone entities. GT4P was different than GT4.. period. This isn't being forced upon anyone, this is just there if you want to get your fix. You can actually get GTHD and be satisfied with that or wait around fro GT5 to come out. What 'you' and many others are not getting is that this is more of a stop gap. Substantial enough to occupy many of your time and if the word is true, your time would not be wasted because your cars and credits transfer over to GT5. Personally I know I am going to get a kick out of trying to beat s class and I really want to get that F-1 car.
- inactive, on 04/22/2008, -1/+6Utterly ridiculous. If you don't like that it doesn't have everything you want in the game, just wait until 2009. How hard is that? I'm pretty sure it says PROLOGUE for a reason.
- kanariya, on 04/23/2008, -1/+6You have the OPTION to NOT BUYING this.
It's still a $60 game. Just wait?
If you chose to buy it, and bitch about it. Cry me a river.
Sony did not hand you the Prologue with a gun on your head. Keep crying. - digitul, on 04/22/2008, -6/+11i love how the people eating this crap up are the same ones that always want to cry about micro transactions.
- mywhitenoise, on 04/22/2008, -3/+8porn is.
- Flynnz, on 04/22/2008, -0/+5not to mention it was going against Forza 2....I know they are different types of racers. But with the hype around Forza 2 when it came out, PGR4 didnt stand a chance.
- NsertNameHere, on 04/23/2008, -1/+6GT Prologue series have never been free. I don't know why people are whining about.
- antonio97b, on 04/22/2008, -4/+9Why the ***** are people bitching over what is a demo and what is a game and the fact it costs 20$ to play it. No one marketed this as a full game (obviously) You know you are buying a fraction of a finished product. Why bitch and moan that it plays "just like a demo."
No ***** *****. - logicalnoise, on 04/22/2008, -12/+17roughly 59 white castle cheese burgers
3-4 dvds from deepdiscount.com
as much free porn as you want.
2 circuits at my local pro am go kart track
4 tickets to a movie
or an awesome amount of marshmallows. - WhereAmI, on 04/22/2008, -1/+6We can't talk about GT5...its not out yet...
- inactive, on 04/22/2008, -15/+20Stop ***** complaining I paid $50 (£25) and I reckon it was worth every penny, the game has hours of content.
- WhereAmI, on 04/22/2008, -4/+9"If there was a Halo 4 prologue and you bought it, are you automatically a Microsoft fanboy?"
Yes. - Sirocco, on 04/22/2008, -7/+12Which on the internet means you work at Taco Bell and make just over minimum wage.
- melondoc, on 04/22/2008, -7/+12If you figure in number of dollars per hours of enjoyment, then GT5P isn't too bad of a deal - at least for me. I've been playing it longer and having more fun with it than with Burnout, anyway. I just hope that there are some substantial free updates over the coming months...
I'll be curious to see if this game has any effect on PS3 sales. I know a lot of people were waiting to see what this would be like before deciding whether to get one. -
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