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- GidsR, on 07/01/2008, -0/+33The fact that there are so many dogs involved suggests these people are supplying pet shops... name them and shame them...
- OC73, on 07/01/2008, -0/+30It really angers me to know there are many more of these puppy mills out there.
Those who run these disgusting operations should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. - manzplan, on 07/02/2008, -2/+23Selling of aniamls in pet shops should be banned
not only do they support puppy mills (which of course they deny - but who else would have to hide behind a pet store? /and who else would sell to a pet store??)
but the other animals they buy from mass breeders so the animals are not used to being handled.
its all about profit. so to make profit you have to take short cuts
most pet stores mark up their animals by 300%
for those who dont know what puppy mills are...
not all are bad condition wise. but NONE care about genetics, mental health.. etc
http://www.gomestic.com/Pets/What-are-Puppy-Mills. ... - Michiko280, on 07/01/2008, -0/+16Humane Society's Wayne Pacelle also wrote about this here:
hsus.typepad.com/wayne/2008/07/tn-puppy-mill2.html - lucy22, on 07/02/2008, -0/+15They need to throw away the key with these people. We need stronger prosecution laws for animal abuse.
- veganima, on 07/02/2008, -5/+20Pet shops should be banned. Breeding should be prohibited and breeders persecuted. Stop breeding and get jobs which are productive for society you ***** parasites!
We need harder laws, what do we pay politicians for? Bureaucrats move your ***** ass!! - manzplan, on 07/02/2008, -0/+13of course they are supplying pet stores, who else would sell to pet stores except puppy mills? no reputable breeder would EVER have to.
- candyman682, on 07/02/2008, -0/+12Too bad they can only go to jail for a year.
- jcaino, on 07/02/2008, -0/+12i got my puppy at Animal Friends. Awesome organization, great facility. He's a mutt (doberman, lab, beagle, and collie) but he's the best damn dog and cute as hell. Heck, he was completely housebroken by the time he was 10-11 weeks old.
Pet stores suck. I don't have a problem with people that are all into specific breeds for showing, hunting, etc...there are good breeders out there that take pride in what they do. But for a family pet, you're better off with a mutt. There's plenty of 'em out there and they love you all the same. Even though a good breeder will keep an eye out for health problems in their line, in general, mutts are healthier and live longer. - inactive, on 07/02/2008, -0/+11The full extent of the law is what angers me about this.
The maximum you can do for cruelty to animals, in this case over 700 animals x years of exploitation, is not even one full year. It's still a misdemeanor.
And there's no way he'll serve that time. Maybe a fine and three months in jail. He won't even lose his business over this.
They should at the very least forbid him of taking care of animals in any way for life. - HHP2K, on 07/02/2008, -0/+11"and a goat." Awesome.
- uwiniwin, on 07/02/2008, -0/+9This is so sad. As you say, sale of dogs in pet shops should be banned. For an excellent article on the same subject please read "Paying for Cruelty" by B Nelson at http://dogcarereviews.com/paying-for-cruelty/
- ryan83189, on 07/02/2008, -1/+10I see no need for designer dogs, or even paying for a companion animal that is like a part of the family. I think there should still be responsible, certified breeders, operating on a small scale (one litter at a time). Without them I fear more of these underground breeding houses would pop up for people who think they need pure breeds. Pet adoption is still the best since there are needy dogs who are quite friendly (and nearly free) whose life depends on the kindness of strangers. I really hate pet shops that sell dogs and cats at a premium, i think that the people who buy them there will treat them as property, not companions. If they're coming out of a place like this, it is a much better life than they are used to though, and im sure most will be loving owners, just not aware of adoption programs.
- Miamisun, on 07/02/2008, -0/+7http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/broward/sfl ...
Over 100 were were brought to south florida by the local humane society and hundreds of people lined up to adopt them on day one. This really touched a lot of people who wanted to help. - Crosshare, on 07/02/2008, -0/+7There's nothing wrong with a "backyard breeder". This is where most of my dogs have come from and they're all well taken care of. It's puppy mills where they use the mother as a machine to churn out offspring and have horrible living conditions for the pups.
- inactive, on 07/02/2008, -0/+6IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SUPPORT PUPPY MILLS, NEVER BUY A DOG OR A CAT FROM A PET SHOP.
Sorry for the caps. But that's who buys these animals (the ones who make it). Your dog is supposed to be expensive. If you can't really afford a real pure breed, get a bastard from a shelter, he'll never get sick and he'll be smarter. And he'll love you just the same. - MammasMilk, on 07/02/2008, -0/+6Both of our dogs were adopted as senior dogs. Our first was 7 years when he was rescued from a puppy mill, yet he is extremely well behaved. On occasion he'll pee on something of mine if he is mad... but I think he learned that from my cats.
Our other dog was 10 years and blind when we adopted him. Also well behaved, and he gets around the house well so his blindness isn't a problem in any way. - basye, on 07/02/2008, -0/+6If the pet stores won't sell them that doesn't matter--they advertise on the internet through their own websites, petfinder and craiglist too. Craigslist has become a way to have free advertising for any backyard breeder or puppy mill as no one checks these places out and people prefer puppies over what is at the shelters.
- NJank, on 07/02/2008, -1/+7just find a pet store that works with a local animal shelter (something like PetSmart). They don't sell pets, they just keep a handful on display in the store for adoption.
- thedogfatherx, on 07/02/2008, -0/+6God some people are so ***** disgusting and worthless in this world.
- ldw4686, on 07/02/2008, -0/+5It is so nice to see this make the front page of Digg! I hope that people stop and read this article to educate themselves about the horrid conditions these animals have to live in. If this article can change just a few people's mind, then we are on your way to stopping this abuse. Don't buy! Adopt:)
- blackgt93, on 07/02/2008, -0/+5It sucks that it takes something as tragic as this to raise public awareness of the problem(s).
It's the same story with Greyhounds, there are tens of thousands euthanized every year and nary a word is written about the gross over-breeding and mistreatment of these dogs.
I hate puppy mills, I hate Greyhound racing, and I hate horse racing. It's all pretty much cruelty in one way or another. And don't give me that "they like to run" *****, of course they do, but I'm pretty sure they don't like to be killed for easily fixable injuries (like broken hocks in Grey's), and they damn sure don't like being locked in kennels for 80% of their racing lives.
Also, if you MUST have a $1000+ designer dog you are not an animal lover, you are looking for another accessory/status symbol to go with your Prada bag and H2.
/rant - austin63, on 07/02/2008, -0/+5The same thing happened in Atlanta. They received 129, and "More than 200 people were waiting in line before 9 a.m. when the animal center opened Tuesday"
It's weird to say but this actually helped the animals not involved get adopted as well.
.http://www.ajc.com/news/content/metro/atlanta/stor ... - aserer511, on 07/02/2008, -0/+4what a low life.
- scabbers, on 07/02/2008, -2/+6See my vest, see my vest,
Made from real gorilla chest,
Feel this sweater, there's no better,
Than authentic Irish setter. - inactive, on 07/02/2008, -0/+4I would never get a puppy, sure they are cute, but alot of work and you don't know how they will be as they get older. Sadly I had to give a dog up, he was too high strung to be around my grandparents.... I rescued my current dog, she was full grown, I saw the temperament... Best dog ever. Its sad so many great dogs are killed because people want puppys... But I guess it is the same that people want to adopt or test tube babies when grown children will spend their lives bouncing around foster care or orphanages.
- DemonDivaDani, on 07/02/2008, -1/+4stuff like this makes me glad i get shelter mutts, and shelter kitties. my mom has a purebred chihuahua, that she treats like a human baby (it even goes on vacation with them, and NEVER goes in the cargo area of the plane) but most people don't treat their animals like she does. they get their purebreds because of the 'status' factor and don't even realize that different breeds have different personalities.
- Miamisun, on 07/02/2008, -1/+4Yeah i agree it did help the animals not involved. The shelter does not put a tag on the ones rescued saying they were rescued. They are sitting right next to the dogs not rescued. I am sure a bunch of those dogs were adopted just because they were there.
- MammasMilk, on 07/02/2008, -0/+3Our dog was rescued from a puppy mill where about half the dogs found were dead or died. His normal weight is 5 - 5.5 lbs, when he was rescued he was close to 3 lbs. He lived 7 years of his life there.
He's got some health problems associated his size and how he was bred. He's absurdly adorable, but he really shouldn't have been bred that way.
What makes me sad at times is sometimes people see him and they fawn and say "Oh, I WANT one!", yet I'll bet most people would not be willing to pay the vet bills and keep up with his meds the way we do. I think people just see these designer dogs as a shiny accessory in some ways. The public needs be better educated on the health problems that occur with this sort of breeding.
My dog maybe be uber cute, but he is the thing that should not be.
I do like how they mentioned in the article that puppy mills would decrease dramatically if people would adopt the existing homeless pets. I'd also recommend adopting senior dogs. - hexydes, on 07/02/2008, -1/+4Dear people that abuse animals,
Kill yourself.
I'm sorry, but animals (especially dogs and cats) only want one thing, and that's for someone to be kind to them. I'm not an animal activist by any means, but if you abuse animals, then your just a loser. Period. - BrewBeau, on 07/02/2008, -0/+2I love (meaning, I hate) the designer mutts, like the puggle. Who are these people with low self esteem that want a unique mixed breed but won't go to the animal shelters because they're too good? Pound dogs usually end up being the friendliest, most unique looking dogs you can find.
- waydee, on 07/02/2008, -1/+3I don't really support dog breeders be they legitimate or puppy mills, I understand that some people may want a certain type of dog but it all seems so shallow... there are always lots of dogs in the local pound needing homes and I hate when people discount a dog because it isn't pure bred, just seems ***** up.
If you want a dog you'll likely get a healthier and happier dog from a pound than from a breeder. - ooby, on 07/02/2008, -0/+2It's pretty easy to spot a puppy mill or backyard breeder on Craigslist.
- blackgt93, on 07/02/2008, -0/+2The sad part is it takes something like this to make people aware of the problem(s).
- BrewBeau, on 07/02/2008, -1/+3All breeders are a part of the problem right now when the shelters can't keep all the dogs and cats they get from people who buy a dog and six months later find out they can't handle it.
And I'm not so sure about the "well-mannered" pure bred dog. The only pure bred dog I've had was very nervous and snapped at kids. All of the pound dogs I've had were very well adjusted. The family lines are just a little too close with pure bred dogs. - imbetterthanu, on 07/02/2008, -0/+2I don't think all pet stores support kitten/puppy mills. I know the PetSmart shops I've seen all have kittens and grown cats in the store for adoption from local rescue groups. Whenever they have dogs and puppies up for adoption it's always from a local rescue group as well.
Not sure about any other chains though. - blackgt93, on 07/02/2008, -0/+2We've got one rescued Greyhound and two rescued cats with another Grey from the local REGAP chapter before too long.
I will never understand the "need" to have a purebred dog. The fact is you can find purebreds in shelters all over the US, go rescue one if you MUST have one. - PopcornDave, on 07/02/2008, -0/+2That law should be applied for every animal taken out of that place so that 700 animals would be 700 sentences of 11 months, not to run concurrently but sequentially. 7700 months seems about right to perhaps make others think about not recreating this kind of mess. Even if the sentence was bartered down it would still be some serious jail time.
- getjustin, on 07/02/2008, -0/+2Since getting my dog from a shelter and realizing from others that shelter dogs are the best damn dogs there are, I lose a lot of respect for anyone I see who bought from a breeder. There are too damn many loving animals being put down because princess needs to have a Mini Cockapoodleteeser and because Jocky McAsshole thinks snipping the ball off his pit will make him a eunuch.
- securitymonkey, on 07/02/2008, -0/+2Both of my pups are mutts and from the Humane Society. They are GREAT dogs and just turned 12 years old. Try walking into a Humane Society shelter and NOT come out with a puppy!!
- inactive, on 07/02/2008, -0/+2In my state they would get 20 years in jail.
- faithforever, on 07/02/2008, -0/+1Let me add to the comments to never buy dogs from pet shops that you should also be very careful who you buy a puppy from, especially online, since puppy millers are finding new ways to sell their puppies. Very few pet shops nowadays sell puppies. However, puppy mills and commercial breeding operations are still in existance, and many have gone online. Some on these puppy broker sites claim their dogs are from champion bloodlines (in fake kennel clubs set up by puppy millers that award mail-order championships) and represent themselves as legitimate breeders.
When you purchase a puppy, make sure to check out the breeder thoroughly. Visit their kennel, see their dogs. Make sure they have done all recommended health checks. Breeds prone to hip dysplasia or eye problems can be certified by vets, and many breeds are also conducting specific genetic tests to eliminate diseases. Make sure to get the AKC paperwork. Don't assume what you read online is true. Do research and make sure the breeder is legit.
The majority of AKC recognized breeders who are committed to their breeds actually sell their puppies for less than pet stores or online puppy brokers do. They may have high standards for puppy buyers and long wait lists, but if you want a purebred puppy that badly, then buy one the right way and stop supporting mass breeding of puppies by commercial breeders.
If you aren't willing to do that, please go to a local shelter and adopt a pet. If you want a specific breed, there are many great breed rescue organizations you can contact. - ooby, on 07/02/2008, -1/+2Backyard breeders contribute to the pet population problem by not adhering to breeding standards (they don’t use DNA tests, family history, or other characteristics to select dogs to mate). When that happens, they create undesirable pets (either through the creation of a pet no one wants to buy, or through the creation of a pet that no one wants to keep). Undesirable pets are a public burden.
From an individual standpoint, backyard breeders do not go through the same rigor to guarantee the quality of a pet that a registered (through a legitimate kennel club) breeder would do. It’s not in a customer’s best interests to buy a dog from a backyard breeder. - gettarat, on 11/25/2008, -0/+1God some people are so ***** disgusting and worthless in this world.
http://hypoallergenicdogbreeds.org/ - iwinuwin20002, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1This is not good. puppy mills need to be banned
- celticanglican, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1Puppy mills don't contribute to society or animals in any way. As for "designer" breeders, don't get me started. I know of one such couple that was into "designer" breeds, and I think they ran afoul of their local animal control. This pair had no business keeping dogs, considering the way they treated them.
Breeders who do genuinely care about dogs should be willing to support legislation that clamps down on puppy mills & bad breeders. Contrary to popular belief, the only breeders who typically earn a full-time living off their animals are these mass commercial ones. - antdude, on 07/02/2008, -0/+1So where do you put the dog when you fly then?
- BitterrootBob, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1That is just plain over-reacting. Some breeders are top notch and breed to enhance a particular breed.
What we need is mandatory spay/neuter with a strict licensing system for breeders and not the current USDA crap that supports these puppy mills. - aaylasecura, on 07/09/2008, -0/+1""That would be an 'a' misdemeanor, which would be 11 months, 29 days in the county jail—or up to that amount," said Helper. "
--> That's not enough! I say fine him a hefty amount and let them rot in jail.. -
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