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- tiresias2, on 09/01/2009, -5/+28I really hope this slaughter ends forever!
- BeShirtHappy, on 09/01/2009, -3/+17Well, thank goodness!
- Piha, on 09/02/2009, -3/+15Humans put the greatest pressure on the fishing industry, and other natural resources too.
Cull them also? - stephhicks68, on 09/02/2009, -3/+13Truly a good day for dolphins!
- adamkmccarthy, on 09/02/2009, -1/+10what are the odds they just decided to move to a less known cove....?
- hauntedchippy, on 09/02/2009, -2/+10Dolphins are self-aware and altruistic. We should not be mass murdering such an intelligent species, no matter the cost.
- ChristoFox, on 09/02/2009, -4/+10The kangaroos in Australia are "humanly" killed where as these dolphins are not, that's how this is different.
Have you seen the video?! - Octanum, on 09/02/2009, -0/+6Not sure why, but the first three comments sound like spam bots to me o.O
- Rugmeister, on 09/02/2009, -2/+8"Other fish" you say?
Dolphins are mammals not fish. They are also highly intelligent, and capable of altruism. - Piha, on 09/02/2009, -4/+9Good. Here's hoping it hasn't just shifted elsewhere.
I am no vegan, I eat pig, cow, chicken, fish etc. So I am sustained by the death of other creatures, but killing dolphins (and whales) is going much too far IMO, this is the same as killing fellow humans for consumption.
These beings are closer to fellow citizens than animals. They have very complex culture, intelligence and empathy. I have experienced encounters with these amazing beings first hand in the wild.
Hopefully next, we'll see an end to whales being murdered in the Southern Ocean Whale SANCTUARY - under the pathetic guise of research. - sloonark, on 09/02/2009, -10/+15From my understanding, the dolphins exist in such great numbers that they are harming the fishing industry. As a result, they are culling them back to more manageable numbers. This kind of thing goes on all around the world with other species. For example, here in Australia, kangaroos are frequently culled so they do not harm local agriculture. There is no worldwide uproar over that. How is this any different?
- Piha, on 09/02/2009, -3/+7Dolphins are not fish, that may be able to spawn thousands or millions of potentially viable eggs, at a time.
Dolphins don't work like this, their breeding cycles are much closer to our own, they are K-strategists. Their estimated rate of viable calves per mature female per year has been placed between .58 and .37 *source below
http://www.dolphin-institute.org/our_research/whal ...
So assuming this is close, then sure the population could nearly double in a season, but remember mortality is still very high. I think they have a lot of mortal risks to deal with, illness, accidents, predation, fishing nets, sharks etc...
So I don't think populations will 'explode' anytime soon. The thing that is crazy from an economic perspective like this is, surely a healthy population of dolphins would be a great tourism win?
The income could easily dwarf the cost of funding fish stocking programs - to boost whatever fish it is people are so fond of eating. - Spirods, on 09/02/2009, -0/+4ii hope that dolphins start fighting back
- laterthanyou, on 09/02/2009, -5/+9I hate the fact that people can walk into other cultures and say “that’s morally repugnant–stop it” when they can’t demonstrate that there own cultures engage in roughly equivalent activities (the equally brutal treatment of domesticated meat animals). To mix metaphors, get your own house in order before you start pointing out the sticks in your neighbor’s eye.
Do you think the French and Japanese would listen if the Americans and Brits started trying to stop them from eating horse? Will Europeans stop eating pig because it offends Muslims? Should Koreans stop eating puppies? Should we go into the South American Rain Forests and stop the tribal warfare that still partakes in cannibalism? Oh because they are so few they are culturally important? But they are eating the other "culturally important" tribe.
I’m sick of the Western notion that they’re morally better than other “backwards” countries. - funklor, on 09/02/2009, -0/+4"Southern Ocean Whale SANCTUARY"
They should, but it doesn't help when Greenpeace/Sea Shepherd make bogus claims about it being illegal, etc. The ban was created by the IWC -- an organization which has absolutely zero legal authority, it isn't backed up by treaty or international law.
If they don't like this they should campaign to change it instead of telling bald-faced lies like the Japanese. - lucfreder, on 09/02/2009, -0/+3"I'd love to know your source for that..."
http://digg.com/d3vB6P - genjiworks, on 09/02/2009, -1/+4So, because of people's over inflated ego and sense of worth they plan on destroying the livelihood of a small village who has been doing this tradition for over two hundred years? If I recall in the 1800's there were tens of millions of 'bison's roaming the United Staes of America. Now there is only over 150,000 of them left. You say it's important to the enviroment to save dolphins.. yet the beef industry is contributing 15%+ of the world's ozone layer.
I'm saying if people want to butt in to a village's source of revenue and livelihood, then they better help fix the problem and butt out. I believe the conservationist groups should help create an industry in that village that can set up dolphin watching... if they are too lazy for that. Send beef to the village to supplement the lost. I mean they are gonna use that money anyhow to try to save the dolphin.
It's easy to stop a problem... harder to fix the ramification that it might cause. - jtens, on 09/02/2009, -0/+3So long and thanks for all the fish!
- tradeplumbing, on 09/02/2009, -2/+5"Every single dolphin saved by dolphin-safe tuna fishing means the death of roughly 422,000 OTHER FISH"
I'd love to know your source for that...
Yes, Dolphins are the only species on the planet other than humans who have sex for pleasure rather than reproduction. This makes them a monstrous creature to you? Are WE monstrous then? They kill fish for fun? Well our beloved kitty cats will happily murder or maim small animals and birds for fun. Does that make them evil too? You can't have it both ways.
Oh and dolphins are mammals, not fish. I already mentioned that but I guess it doesnt hurt to repeat, since you missed it the first time :) - Animal, on 09/02/2009, -4/+7The difference is that dolphins are cute and people feel they can act all high and mighty and ignore that they are being hypocrites. Same goes for the seal hunt and any other cute animal. Sure there are people who care about all animals but most people just care about certain select ones for stupid reasons that have nothing to do with any claimed morality.
- subliminali, on 09/02/2009, -4/+6http://www.actfordolphins.org/ for more information about it.
- manicleek, on 09/02/2009, -5/+7Same reason they kill pigs and cows?
- toDIEisGAIN, on 09/02/2009, -0/+2True story
- charm803, on 09/02/2009, -3/+5Save the cheerleader, save the whales!
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/479361/ha ...
And pictures of Hayden being a hero.
http://www.savethewhalesagain.com/wm_master.html - dikky, on 09/02/2009, -3/+5nature takes care of that itself. When fish numbers go down, so do dolphin numbers, when fish numbers rise, so do dolphin numbers
- soley, on 09/02/2009, -0/+2@JDiZZle300Z Yes, they eat whale. It's huge in Japan. They kill the whales in a whale sanctuary & claim it's research. Yes, they eat dolphin.
- counterplex, on 09/02/2009, -0/+2Pass the salt please :)
- FrameWraith, on 09/02/2009, -1/+3Exactly. It is absolutely baffling how some people seem to think ecosystems weren't around and balancing out until humans arrived.
- tiresias2, on 09/02/2009, -0/+2But the Japanese people themselves don't really know that this is going on. When they are informed, most of them also disavow the dolphin killings.
It's not just that the killings are done inhumanely, it's also that the meat from the dolphins is poison. It is filled with mercury and other toxins-- more than any other product beside a thermostat-- a fact which the fishing industry in Taiji hides by deceptively selling the dolphin meat as "whale meat" instead. It has even been put in kids' school lunches as part of a mandated state lunch program.
This is an outrage no matter where you come from. It has nothing to do with cultural relativism. - soley, on 09/02/2009, -1/+2And whales. Let's not forget whales.
Oh, wait...those are for "scientific research".
Riiiiiiight. - a117, on 09/02/2009, -1/+2"killing fellow humans for consumption"
mmm... Soylent Green.... *smacks lips* - fr3nch, on 09/06/2009, -0/+1Thats not the only cove in Japan, and I really doubt the media has the dedication to wait out the 6-month slaughter season. I know enough about economics to know that billion dollar industries unfortunately don't go away.
- laterthanyou, on 09/03/2009, -0/+1Thats the Japanese government's problem...and they need to deal with it. Not gaijin. Foreigners aren't going to be trusted. Do you like when your neighbor tells you how your lawn should look or your roommate tells you how you how you should make your bed? Your'e not going to listen and you are going to get pissed off no matter how sincere they are. Anyway 99% of the people on digg are applauding saving the dolphins not the children...
- Chompy, on 09/02/2009, -1/+2What about tuna?
***** 'em, they taste good. - ross., on 09/02/2009, -2/+3It's a trap...
- omae, on 09/02/2009, -5/+6why would ne1 wanna kill dolphins?
- Rugmeister, on 09/02/2009, -0/+1My point which still stands, is that you're apparently quite eager to misclassify sea mammals as fish in your zeal to define a certain species of the former as food.
You might however be accidentally right in implying with your words "so is a cow" that cows are also highly intelligent and capable of altruism, but I've never heard of any study which showed that, nor of any anecdotes from farmers. - mksmothers, on 09/02/2009, -2/+3Dolphin slaughter? What the ***** is fishing for tuna? Let's be morally consistent, if you are against eating dolphin, why wouldn't you be against eating tuna?
- purplelantern, on 09/02/2009, -0/+1Its like.. like... they haven't watched Star Trek IV at all!!!
- OasisR123, on 09/02/2009, -3/+4Hopefully this will keep momentum into the next years, so the media attention won't cease
- Piha, on 09/02/2009, -2/+3Fishing is in decline all over the world this is nothing new, many communities have had to deal with this. Happens all the time all over the world, nothing makes them so special. If the village wants to stay economically viable, they need to innovate and adapt to find new ways of earning a crust.
And if they really wanted to do something to help their fish stocks, maybe they should lobby the governement to more actively protect their fishery from illegal commercial fishing?
I seriously think: just one large illegal factory fishing vessel (operating for a few days/weeks) would kill many levels of magnitude more fish, than their 'local' dolphin population would (in a year). - a117, on 09/02/2009, -0/+1"Got to hand to them, they wanted it more"
-Homer Simpson - eliseville, on 09/12/2009, -0/+1Most of the eating is done by kids in school! The ultimate mystery meat with a full dose of mercury to aid the learning process I guess.
As far as why they do it, how does $500 per butchered carcass and $150,000 for the ones they think can be trained sound for a season's earnings? In the U.S., it's corporations that rake in that kind of dough, but it sounds like it's just the fishermen that are bloody greedy in Taiji (and other villages also.) - purplelantern, on 09/02/2009, -1/+2sniff sniff... Makes me want to go hug a dolphin right after the sushi dinner tonight!
- mishmash215, on 09/02/2009, -1/+2If you where not born in Japan you can never become a citizen. You can gain non citizen residency, but you are not able to participate in politics. If you had an infestation of cockroaches in your home would you just let them be or would you exterminate them? Maybe these dolphins can be relocated, but I highly doubt that is feasible. Also Dolphin hunting and Whaling are part of the culture of Japan. If you have been doing the same thing for centuries than how can you just abruptly stop?
- lugalasso, on 09/02/2009, -0/+1I'm glad to read that they are stopping, at least for this year. They have more than likely taken the slaughterings into another cove. What these people fail to realize is that the ecosystem is able to fix itself. The population of dolphins may explode but then they will die off naturally as their food source diminishes and then the fish population will grow again and the cycle will continue. You don't need ot kill them off
Lu Galasso - ohplease, on 09/02/2009, -0/+1You are very fat.
- inactive, on 09/02/2009, -0/+1I say we give them lasers for eyes and set them free
- Kokoboy, on 09/02/2009, -1/+1For all the trash talkers, at least do something and sign the petition.
http://www.actfordolphins.org/help.html - tiresias2, on 09/02/2009, -1/+1Well, for one they are entirely different species, with very different mental, emotional and social lives. One is a mammal, the other a fish. There is a mountain of room to draw moral distinctions between them.
Whether you agree with how those distinctions are drawn or not, to put the two species together as though they are interchangeable in a moral argument is hardly convincing. -
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