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- lroche, on 08/20/2008, -0/+49There are lots of dogs that need homes so why clone them. Its ridiculous.
- inactive, on 08/20/2008, -0/+41For 50k I can rehabilitate and find a home to 500 dogs.
For 50k she adds 5 dogs into this world, causing the death of 5 dogs. - HeyArnold, on 08/20/2008, -0/+22RE-PET!
- FlyingPhotog, on 08/20/2008, -6/+24If you're going to clone a dog, why a Pit Bull?
- gkiltz, on 08/20/2008, -0/+18With so many good-dispositioned dogs killed every day, because there simply are not enough homes for them, why do this?
Why not go by your shelter and find the right mutt for your personality? - inactive, on 08/20/2008, -0/+18I think Primus said it best when they said: "Too Many Puppies."
- therealkdog, on 08/20/2008, -0/+17Why not just adopt a pet that doesn't have a home? :(
- browe07, on 08/20/2008, -0/+15Exactly! And why the hell do people pay more elsewhere? Should start a scam where dogs from the pound are sold as top breeds. People won't know the difference anyway. Then the money could be used to keep alive the rest in the shelter. It would be the most benevolent scam in history!
- altgeeky1, on 08/20/2008, -1/+13>but probably not OK just so you can pretend you have the same dog that you once had.
That's exactly what I thought when the 'cloned puppies' story broke: someone has some BIG TIME emotional issues. This wasn't research (which I view would be 'different') this was simply someone who is trying to get through life while avoiding the processing of any "loss".
And then we hear more to reinforce this... the woman who financed this belongs to a cult, is a compulsive liar, has kidnapped people, and has been a stalker. Unbelievably, authorities don't want to re-open multiple cases against her because the cases are "old" and they don't see any pattern to her behavior.
ATTN DIGG BURY BRIGADE - Please please don't bury posts that allude to the woman's psychopathic criminal "past". There's no reason to bury these posts. This woman is a textbook case of cloning abuse, and the kind of person who would pay huge sums for something so trivial. This is part of the controversy about cloning, and therefore part of the discussion. It's not just about puppies. Thank you for reading this. :-) - bort27, on 08/20/2008, -6/+18"But at What Cost?"
$50,000... durrrrrrr - madrigaelic, on 08/19/2008, -0/+12And the behind-the-scenes science is a bit gross. Dead puppies, basically. Probably tolerable for research purposes, but probably not OK just so you can pretend you have the same dog that you once had.
- aekdbbop, on 08/20/2008, -0/+11wasn't the woman that had the dogs cloned a stalker of a Mormon guy in the 70's? She changed her name.. but when you do something like this.. you are bound to be recognized.
- Wornstrom, on 08/20/2008, -2/+12because Pit Bulls are awesome if you raise them right. And if memory serves me correctly, the lady who owned the dog Booger had her life saved by this dog, some event dramatic enough for her to find it reasonable to part with $50k to have her dog cloned... I think another animal attacked the crap out of her and her dog killed it, saving her life.
edit: yeah, here is a link with some more info
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/a ... - Marshalus, on 08/20/2008, -1/+9I don't understand why anyone would want their dead dog back. I love my dog, but when he dies, he's gone. People forget that when you clone them you are just cloning (most) of what they look like, their personality doesn't come with it. I think my odds of being happy would be better to find a new (legitimate) dog of the same breed and appearance and give it a good home then to create a copy of my old dog in a test tube.
- ldw4686, on 08/20/2008, -0/+7I think you are on the something. here's the link to the article:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and ...
Bitch is crazy! - kevdotbadger, on 08/20/2008, -1/+8$4
- inactive, on 08/20/2008, -4/+11Then why do reggins always have them at the beach with giant chain collars and train them to defend their crack stash?
- Rudegar, on 08/20/2008, -1/+7kinda pricey for the illusion of getting a reincarnated pet
guess it would be cheaper for the cloners just to get a replacement that really really looked like the pet
then they dident have to start over with the puppie but get a mature dog right away - DeFex, on 08/20/2008, -1/+7how about cloning peoples own organs to replace failed ones. now that would be a good use for cloning.
- coyote1284, on 08/20/2008, -0/+6No, it just costs an arm and a leg.
/The philosopher's stone is PEOPLE! - altgeeky1, on 08/20/2008, -0/+6It's nothing to do with the breed of the dog. She could have had a pet skunk, and this would be a skunk cloning story.
This and everything to do with the former owner's mental state and denial. Read the background on this woman (more than one story). - KarlH, on 08/20/2008, -1/+6$50,000? I can produce an almost unlimited amount of "boogers" for free.
- ldw4686, on 08/20/2008, -0/+4but when these dogs are cloned, they actually get more diseases. and it wouldn't eliminate the homeless pet population, it would add to it. There is an estimated 6-8 million pets that are added to shelters every year, and about 3-4 million pets euthanized every year. So, no, I don't see your stupid point.
And for the record, I have a shelter dog, and he is the best dog and doesn't have any problems. Plus he is a designer dog that we got for 40 bucks. Go ahead and spend thousands on your 'superdog' only to find that it will have more problems than you baragined for. - ahtu, on 08/20/2008, -4/+8I kind of want to see the failed puppies more.
"Kill.. me.." - BradOFarrell, on 08/20/2008, -7/+11The alchemical equivalent exchange for one living puppy is three human souls. Wake up, Americans.
- Nicksname1, on 08/20/2008, -3/+7Those dogs are cute but aren't there enough pitbulls in this world, why not clone like a manbearpig or something unique?
- kennenray, on 08/20/2008, -0/+3LOOK at the middle puppies with white on it's head! They probably are just all from one litter!!!
- Risingashes, on 08/20/2008, -0/+3What's wrong with you people? What makes you think you have the right to tell someone how they spend their money? Why should they have to pick up an abandoned mutt just because they exist?
With that logic no one should be having kids of their own because there are orphans. People are allowed to do what they want to do and they have zero responsibility to house a stray dog just because -someone else- abandoned them.
Funding this kind of messy trial and error experimentation is a portion of the fundamental groundwork that will one day provide lifesaving (and vanity pleasing) medical breakthroughs for the common man. Feel free to reject that cloned heart in 30 years because you don't agree that the process involved vanity, greed and death along the way. That is how the world works- grow up. - matthewinDRO, on 08/20/2008, -1/+4For $50,000 can I clone Tera Patrick?
- inactive, on 08/20/2008, -1/+4the middle one has white fur between the eyes. This company obviously isn't very good at cloning.
- bbtweb, on 08/20/2008, -1/+4just what i've always wanted, a puppy created from a pit bull named Booger...
- sodade, on 08/20/2008, -0/+3"The biological abnormalities inherent to the cloning procedure will always make cloning inferior to natural breeding," said Konrad Hochedlinger, a Harvard Medical School cloning expert. "I don't think we will ever be able to fix the biological problems. The process of fertilization is fundamentally different from sticking DNA into an egg and generating clones."
Well that sucks. I bet that 50 years from now, scientists will laugh at this though. - coyote1284, on 08/20/2008, -0/+3LIES! All pit bulls are one step away from snapping and becoming viscious man-eaters! Destroy them all!
/sarcasm - Princeamor, on 08/25/2008, -0/+2Seems to me like cloned puppies should be less expensive than real puppies because they are not the real thing...
- altgeeky1, on 08/20/2008, -2/+4An awesome question... the answer:
The right animal for this woman's personality IS cloned puppies of her former dog. As twisted as that statement is, it is true. - Trendy2, on 08/20/2008, -0/+2That's a Great Weiner.....and I like your dog too!
- charlietuna, on 08/20/2008, -0/+2Hey, adopt No need to clone Booger, there are plenty of lonely pups who would welcome a warm and loving home. I know I'll sound like an animal rights freak when I saw that people can be such asses.
http://www.petfinder.com/ - pjr12345, on 08/20/2008, -1/+3I'd like to clone a weiner dog version of a great dane, or perhaps a great dane version of a weiner dog.
- WoollyMittens, on 08/20/2008, -1/+3Skin cells and other mature tissues contain genetic material that has been copied many times already, each time losing a little bit of it's telomere (the frayed end of the chromosome), reducing the amount of time the cells in the cloned material can divide and probably leading to premature old age.
- spiritflare1, on 08/20/2008, -1/+3another elitist fashionable hobby - if you want to do real service and think beyond yourself, adopt one of the thousands of rescues or from the pound that will be euthanized. The animal will pay-you back with a lifetime of gratitude and love.
- shutaro, on 08/20/2008, -0/+2They're not much fun... Dead puppies, that is.
- thomn8r, on 08/20/2008, -0/+2Dug up for the name "Woo Suk Hwang"
- Garofoli, on 08/20/2008, -0/+1Zing!
- Risingashes, on 08/22/2008, -0/+1What kind of absurd strawman argument are you trying to make?
When did I mention abandoning puppies and babies was an okay practice? Are you unable to recognise the difference between abandoning puppies/babies and people choosing not to go out of their way to adopt them?
You are saying that compassion should be mandatory and all encompassing. How does that sound reasonable in your head?
Adopting those that have been abandoned is an admirable thing. Things that are admirable cannot be compulsory. If a lady wants to clone her child instead of risking a horrible birthmarked freak then that's her choice- she isn't stealing anything from anyone. - merr, on 08/20/2008, -0/+1That's the first thing I thought too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mIY8bTxDsA - thunderclap, on 08/20/2008, -0/+1Because we are unwilling to ship them to Korea to help feed starving populations.
- WestonP, on 08/26/2008, -0/+1Great... blowing tens of thousands of dollars, just to play God in the hopes of feeding an unhealthy obsession. Animals and people die, that's just part of life. Nothing good is going to come from trying to live in your own little fake world, where you just copy dead animals so you can pretend that they are the same as the first one. Here's how to improve your mental health, finances, and community: let go of the past, adopt a new dog, and give half of that $50k that you were about to waste to a charity that will actually help people.
- ricksite, on 08/20/2008, -0/+1She wasn't cloning for the sake of cloning. She wanted a clone of her Pit Bull. Why would she clone some other dog? That wouldn't make sense.
- EatSleepJeep, on 08/20/2008, -0/+1There is truth in that statement.
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