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- goldfenix, on 03/20/2008, -3/+104You can all thank dvsbastard for originally posting this, it was simply so far buried in the original thread that only a handful of people saw it.
- dvsbastard, on 03/20/2008, -2/+53Well thank you very much, however, the thanks is unnecessary and I believe Google deserves most of the credit!
Inflammatory stories such as this one tend to produce irrational and emotional responses (and this is perfectly understandable), but I try to ensure that my anger or disgust is warranted, and is not just a result of being mislead... and I'll always gladly share anything I find, just as much as I appreciate reading it when others have done the same! :) - dmacmattack, on 03/20/2008, -2/+31Dammit I'm a sheep.
- Haplo, on 03/20/2008, -1/+29See also: http://www.snopes.com/critters/crusader/vargas.asp
- unicronband, on 03/20/2008, -3/+30What part of "the dog ate repeatedly and not died, but escaped during the night", aside from the poor translation, do you not understand?
Art is meant to provoke an emotional response, which in this case it certainly did. Yeah, it would be ***** up if he actually starved a dog to death. But he didn't.
I think the point people are missing is that ***** up ***** goes on under our noses so often that we have become totally desensitized to it all. Imagine if we did this, not with a dog, but a Gitmo detainee. Place him in a gallery and put him through all the ***** we put the detainees through behind closed doors for the public to see. People would be appalled, "This is TERRIBLE! How can you treat a person like this?!?!" Well, we do every day, just because you don't see it up close doesn't mean it's not happening.
I think this is the kind of reaction the artist intended, for people to be shocked and disgusted, but then realize that it's not the artist they should be disgusted at, but humanity in general. Wild dogs die every day, but when if it happens in an art gallery, it's a tragedy. War happens every day, but when it happens in your backyard, it's a tragedy. I for one salute this guy. - bradcrc, on 03/20/2008, -1/+27the starving nearly dead tied up dog "escaped during the night"
sure. I'll buy that. Most dogs too weak to stand are able to untie themselves, and then navigate a museum and open locked doors to let themselves free.
I'm glad this is all cleared up now, and not just some CYA action going on. - skipstar127, on 03/20/2008, -2/+24Good catch! I Dugg the dvsbastard story after seeing the first pic. Appears I should read the entire article and maybe a little research first too.
- hexydes, on 03/20/2008, -28/+46I'd digg this, but to be quite honest, there are much better advocacy efforts that could be employed for proving your point than something like this. I'm sure the intention of the "artist" is to shock people towards a point, but as is proven again and again, this type of activity simply serves to desensitize society to these types of actions, so that when it actually does happen, people aren't as shocked anymore.
Like that story about the boy who cried wolf. Just look at the comments from posters wishing violence against the "artist". That type of animosity should be reserved for when this actually happens (and it does). The more people see it, and get used to it, the less they are shocked to action when it actually happens.
Sorry, this isn't useful art, just an attempt of 90% shock, 10% attention. It shouldn't be rewarded. - protodon, on 03/20/2008, -4/+22People are sheep because they reacted as predicted to a story of a dog starved to death? If I told you I ate my dog last night would you do follow up research or would you just think I was an ***** for eating my dog? Most likely the latter. People aren't going to do research on everything they hear. it's just not an efficient way of doing things.
- n8o8, on 03/20/2008, -3/+18I'm sure the gallery owner would say that the dog "escaped" into the night if it did indeed die to save his sorry ass. Who can know for sure whether it is true or not. One thing we can know is that this is absurd and awful conduct by both the gallery owner and the pitiful excuse for an "artist". The one picture of the dog which I have seen reveals an animal which is obviously malnourished and uncomfortable.
- thesonofdarwin, on 03/20/2008, -4/+19I have a question, and it may seem obvious. But aren't you buying what you are fed? I mean, you are under the assumption now that what the article said is true, right? That it was well-fed and escaped, yes?
Oh, I see. You can crawl back under your rock now. It doesn't matter if you are a white sheep or one of the black sheep on the otherside of the fence; you are still a sheep. - swrostmore, on 03/20/2008, -4/+16" According to him, the important thing was to show the hypocrisy of people and see how a dog becomes the focus of attention when it is in a gallery and not when they are on the streets."
No *****. See my comment in the original thread. Not that hypocrisy on digg is "BREAKING NEWS" or anything. - DigitAl56K, on 03/21/2008, -1/+13Next story: The dog *did* die and people are sheep for believing it didn't...
- goldfenix, on 03/20/2008, -0/+12Excellent find, I wish I had linked to that at the start.
- omnithought, on 03/20/2008, -13/+24The first article itself was a great way of showing how people are sheep. The comments lit up with outrage and calls for the guy to be punished somehow, yet how many took the time to find out if it was true? This is how the media can be used to crucify people. Just put something out there and enough people will believe it that a person's life can be ruined.
For ***** sake, when are people going to learn not to buy what they're fed? - yaosio, on 03/21/2008, -2/+11Sorry guys, it's this story that's fake. There never was a dog, nor does the country they mention exist. Or does it? Which one makes me a sheep again, I can't remember? I know, if lots of people believe something that makes them sheep, so you should always believe the opposite of what everybody believes. But if I believe the opposite of what everybody believes, then I'm a sheep to myself, so I should believe what everybody believes. Help me out guys. :(
Actually, the dog was taken away to a nice farm where they can take good care of him. Let's go get a new dog. - Cam_86, on 03/21/2008, -1/+8Exactly.. the responsibility of verifying the story, is put on who-ever published it. Someone reporting that a dog was starved to death for art should inspire anger. Not 'how should i think of this story, and critically question the source?'. Especially when its in a country that's known to have VERY lax animal rights.
Its like reporting that a former KGB spy was assassinated, and then laughing at everyone who believed it. With Russia's history, one wouldn't need much imagination to assume the story was real.
The only point made here was:
-Costa Rica's art scene is seen as unethical by most westerners
-Digg submitters don't source their submitted material as well as they should, and ALSO see Costa Rica's art scene as unethical. - MillionsLivio, on 03/20/2008, -6/+13You recognized the artist's initial point, yet you just unknowingly proved it, funny how that works.
- Cam_86, on 03/21/2008, -2/+8Oh, and who the ***** is buying the whole 'the dog was well fed' line? Feeding the dog would go against the entire message he was trying to present... Sounds like the thing did die, and they are now in salvage mode, trying to earn back whatever respect they had lost.
- codered1322, on 03/21/2008, -0/+5I think it only clarified that this artist has about ten different stories about what he did to and what happened to that poor dog. I just don't believe that the dog escaped in the night.
- Shawshanksr, on 03/20/2008, -4/+9thank god! the first article made so angry and sad, now its just a huge relief!
- heynoop, on 03/21/2008, -0/+5this is the most truth i've read about digg ever.
- inactive, on 03/21/2008, -4/+9This is ***** i dont believe it. The dog looked extremely malnourished i could see its veins.
- Soave, on 03/21/2008, -1/+6Wait I thought the sheep referred to the people that obeyed the signs that said "don't feed the dog."
- inactive, on 03/21/2008, -1/+6Its all what we wanted to hear..the dogs dead...it escaped during the night? Picked the lock on the door and chewed through the rope..yea Im sure. We are all buying this *****?
People are sheep? Yea...thats it.
Im not buying the dog escaped...but hey if thats what they want us to believe then so be it. - endustry, on 03/21/2008, -3/+8Isn't this true of 1/3 of everything on DIGG? Here's a breakdown of what I see; let me know if I'm on crack or not.
1. Geek fanboy *****. Man builds life-sized Darth Vader out of brown M&Ms. A thousand virgins log in through their iPhones to DIGG it.
2. Obamamania. Fair enough. I kinda' dig the guy, too.
3. Manipulative articles specifically designed to provoke immediate and thoughtless emotional judgments communicated via cliched outrage typed into a computer. Scientology Sux. Cops are *****. America is a Fascist Regime. White People are Racists, Leave Da' Piratebay Da' ***** Alone, etc. - magixx2, on 03/21/2008, -1/+6Reminds me of the time my hamster ran away while I was at summer camp.
- inactive, on 03/20/2008, -4/+8Yeah that was clarified the first time this hit dig like 8 months ago, for ***** sake people are so reactionary and lazy.
- biotch, on 03/21/2008, -0/+4Dont be so naive. Just because someone writes this doesnt mean we know what happened. He still captured a dog and starved it. I have doubts as to what happened to the dog. If it couldnt escape during the day, then how did it escape during the night? This looks like PR salvaging. Regardless he still admits to using the suffering of an animal as "art". Theres nothing special about a dog becoming the center of attention at an exhibit. Of course it was, it was chained up and starved! When its roaming around on the street at least it can go find some food if it wants. This guy is a poor excuse for an artist at best.
- nydwarf, on 03/21/2008, -0/+4Worst translation ever!
- antdude, on 03/21/2008, -0/+4Um, Google translated it with its automated translator.
So we're indeed the sheeps then to Digg the original story. :( - knde, on 03/21/2008, -1/+5Quite a few commenters in the original story pointed out that the story was false. I believe one or two even cited sources, though many did just say they knew it not to be true.
Those comments were mostly ignored or down voted. I went through and voted every single comment that provided contrary evidence to the article. Thanks Goldfenix for submitting this. - plnegative1, on 03/21/2008, -1/+5I don't believe this.
- kupa, on 03/21/2008, -0/+4But the original posting of the story mentioned that the dog did, indeed, die due to more then just starvation. Apparently it was already sick and wouldn't eat on it's own anyway.
***** the dog escaped, the first article and comments proved the "Artist" was full of himself. - silence7, on 03/21/2008, -2/+6Didn't we already do this 153 days ago?
Artist Chains Up Dog Until It Dies… Is This Art? Or Animal Abuse?
http://digg.com/odd_stuff/Artist_Chains_Up_Dog_Unt ... - silence7, on 03/21/2008, -1/+5Depending on when they found the dog, they could have been feeding him great for a week and he'd almost look the same, it takes a long while for a dog to lose that much weight, and almost as long to put it back on. You can't just give a dog 50lbs of food and expect him to now be 50 lbs meatier.
- Licurgo, on 03/21/2008, -3/+6my faith in humanity will be restored when i read the story revealing the fact that the war in irak was just a elaborate prank
- heatmiser, on 03/21/2008, -0/+3Hmm..massive outrage and backlash against the artist and the gallery and suddenly "You had it all wrong! The dog was fine! we fed it - we swear we did!"
I smell ***** somewhere along the way. - earther, on 03/21/2008, -0/+3Well said.
- thorstrongstone, on 03/20/2008, -1/+4Man, i searched for hours on any other info on that story, good eye!
- Maver1c, on 03/21/2008, -3/+6i agree with you
- omnithought, on 03/21/2008, -2/+5I'm not assuming that this story is true either. You're assuming that I am. Should this story also prove to be false, my point still stands. You may now resume your further assumptions. Enjoy!
- rplibertybelle, on 03/21/2008, -0/+3This is true, but do you actually believe the dog "escaped?" Even if the dog was given food and water and care, he or she was too weak to go anywhere. My husband and I rescued a starving animal, and she couldn't do anything but take a few steps and lie down again. The vets tried everything to keep her alive and well, but she didn't make it. I just don't believe everything is as peachy keen as a gallery trying to clear it's name claims it is.
- papaslurp, on 03/21/2008, -1/+4I disagree. Clearly there are more direct ways to address or actively fight against societal ills, but this is only a part of what art is supposed to do, and many times it's not at all.
Sure he could have done this "installment" in a different way. Sure he could have gone out himself to go round up a bunch of dogs and treat them well. Ad nauseum. Whatever he did, it was more than we did to push the cause forward. I say leave the criticism up to the people who've done more for this cause than this guy has. - RichStradler, on 03/21/2008, -1/+4These crazy art majors! This would have been so much more interesting story if the artist had been Dutch. The dog would have probably been named Mohammed and depicted with a dog collar made out of C4. Of course the artist is the one who would be dead now not the dog and the whole diggnation would be going ***** over his racist lack of Muslim sensabilities.
- skinkaid, on 03/21/2008, -3/+6Something tells me this is a cover story to get out of a negative publicity situation.
SHENANIGANS!!!! - Fallout911, on 03/21/2008, -1/+3You should not use any living thing for your or any body's amusement.
If he did feed the dog it still doesn't clear him of torturing it by tying it up and not feeding it for the time it was on display.
Habbukkuk can go ***** himself - inactive, on 03/21/2008, -1/+3I disagree. It was not art, and it was not politics. It was just an egotistical form of sadism. Manipulating people to 'prove a point' does not justify acts of sadism. For example, I could say "I'll prove people are sheep!" and then go ahead and kill a bunch of them and claim that they all tried to run away, so it proved my artistic point. No, it would not. It would not even be an honorable political statement.
As for being art, if you remember Andy Kaufman, he tried to mess with people's heads. That was sensationalist entertainment, but not art. -
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