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Teenager Killed His Father After Being Banned from Myspace
kpho.com — A teenager who confessed to killing his father last month told police he hated his dad for taking away his Internet access, according to a police report released Wednesday. He told police that his father had taken away his Internet access after seeing suicide threats the teen had posted on social networking Web site MySpace.com.
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I'm not condoning what this kid did, but don't you think his father could have thought of some better sort of way to parent his child if the kid is threatening to kill himself? It seems to me that if you have a suicidal child the last thing you want to do is punish them for expressing these ideas and trying to communicate them-- even if that communication is through the Internet.
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And not to blame the victim, but leaving firearms laying around the house when you know your son is suicidal isn't good parenting either.
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Except the rotten brat wasn't suicidal. He was obviously homocidal.
Ans while we can get into issues of parenting here I think all of you are doing exactly what you say you aren't...blaming the victim.
The kid may have had no real outward signs of being depressed. In fact, he may have acted perfectly normal usually and just "vented" on MySpace.
He probably told his dad he was just saying things to be cool.
The kid is a *****. The only remedy for these brats (because parenting will fail most of them too) is the death penalty.-
"Schlicker told police his father had taken away his Internet access after seeing suicide threats the teen had posted on social networking Web site MySpace.com."
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Except that's not what the story says. Friends saw the notes, informed his mother (who presumably told the father) and they took away internet access completely (which would also mean no MySpace). I'm guessing the parents aren't real web-savvy and couldn't just block their browser from going to MySpace.
Guns weren't the problem, bad parenting (which none of us can really say was the case here since none of us know the kid or his parents) wasn't the problem. The problem was a ***** crazy kid who instead of admitting he had a problem and asking for help, decided to kill his father instead.
How people deal with their kids isn't a black and white issue. As a father myself, each situation is different, each child is different, and you can't apply a one-size-fits-all solution to every problem. However unless the child was being physically or emotionally abused (and no, taking away the internet does not constitute emotional abuse), he had no reason to do what he did and I hope he enjoys spending a lot of time bonding with his new roomate "Bubba" -
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I agree with you. Depressed people do not usually exhibit homicidal tendencies. Most often, they exhibit self-destructive tendencies. -
"The problem was a ***** crazy kid who instead of admitting he had a problem and asking for help, decided to kill his father instead"
Uh, he did ask for help. That's generally what suicide threats are. If he didn't want help, he'd have done it.
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As a father of two, I won't blame the parents. However, there are things I would have done differently. If my kid is expressing suicidal thoughts, I would *probably* get them some psychiatric help for starters. To me, it seems weird to punish a kid who's basically telling you he's having a hard time coping. "Dad, I'm having a hard time dealing with life." "Okay, son. Here's your punishment..." Crazy!
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the kid is not the victim he waited all day to commit the murder suicide.. as most parents the farther only ever hears negative things about that Myspace so he did what most parents think is logical which is take away that "problem". Unfortunately he wasn't smart enough to remove the guns from the house... and probably didn't have too much dialog with his son about it since most parents tend to ignore the bad an imagine that all things are fine... I don't know what else was going on in this kids life to make him want to kill himself but to me this is the type of mentality you find in the kids responsible for the school shootings... where your life is ***** so you want to take those who you perceive are agianst you and off your self... I'm agianst the death penalty epically in this case since it's a reward to the kid not a punishment
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@"The kid is a *****. The only remedy for these brats (because parenting will fail most of them too) is the death penalty."
Wouldn't it have saved everyone a great deal of trouble if they just had an abortion or used a condom? I'm just saying... -
cdahlk, Man... I dugg you before I read your entire posting... I agreed with what you had to say until death penalty came up.
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Too bad he didn't kill himself too, this family of geniuses needs to have their genes removed from society. Hopefully the kid never reproduces, but if he does, he'll probably get shot in the head by his offspring.
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Leaving guns around the house without proper locks is just bad parenting in general. I grew up in the South in a poor community and knew more than one kid who died because they were playing with loaded guns. There is nothing wrong with having kids and owning a gun, but you need to leave the gun unchambered and either a lock on the gun itself to prevent ammunition being put into it or in a cabinet that is locked.
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If it wasn't MySpace, it would probably have been something else. Warning signs are just that. If you don't take advantage of them, your kids will kill you.
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a close friend of mine committed suicide just this Friday, and i feel horrible for not looking into it... *sigh, just felt like getting that out =(
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Did he/she also have myspace woes?
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Did he/she have their iPod stolen?
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If they're not using their iPod anymore, can I have it? Dibbs!!!
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Sorry for your loss.
My wife works as a guidance counselor in a high school. She says every week they'll discuss the suicidal kids and the ones that could come in and shoot up the entire school. It's always funny when people say things like, "Didn't the teachers see this coming?" Sure they did! There's just nothing legally that can be done about it!
Other than being the best friend you can be, if someone wants to kill themselves, there's really only so much you can do.-
If they started locking up every depressed teenager the schools would look like Auschwitz.
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If they locked up all the guns so kids couldn't get them it would help.
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I'm not a big fan of guns myself, but blanket statements like "lock up all the guns" would do little to really prevent a tradegy like this. Unless you believe that banning kids from drinking, smoking, or having sex has really made any difference. We as human beings are entirely too fragile to prevent someone from killing us if we aren't aware of the danger even without guns.
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And then they could've this huge party .. .like Housewitz http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_DKR3Wc4ns
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Im sorry to hear that bro, that's a horrible thing for anyone to have to be involved in, take care of yourself during this time ok?
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you *****' nimcum-*****'-poop
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No I disagree, because a lot of people do stuff like this just for attention. They should learn that they don't deserve that attention or it can cause further problems down the line. A lack of good discipline is where the problem often is.
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Yeah, because we all know the whole situation. We -know- he didn't do anything else to try to correct the situation.
Obviously, the kid was extremely messed up. He went from suicide to homicide pretty doggone quickly. Loss of internet access is not a good reason to kill someone. -
Stretching it a bit, isn't it? "Kid kills dad because of MySpace" sells more than "Suicidal teenager kills Father" I guess.
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I doubt this kid was ever truly suicidal.
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I'm not sure the medium through which the kid communicated his feelings - Myspace - was a wise choice. Doing something like that results in people perceiving you as another one of those endlessly generic 'frustrated' teens, and I can understand why the father wouldn't have taken the threats seriously.
And besides, hey, look - he didn't go ahead with his plan in the end after all. He wanted attention. His father denied him his main route of getting that attention, so he took matters into his own hands. What an immature and selfish outcome. -
I came home the other day and my daughter was scribbling a suicide note but I managed to stop her just in time. It's ok now though i've made sure there are no pens in the house, problem solved.
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I'd be suicidal too if my last name was Schlicker and I lived in AZ.
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this never would have happened had the kid discovered the wonderful world of high-grade marijuana
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This is an example, though extreme, of the consequences of horrible/nonexistent parenting. It may be hard for many people to understand, but if you crawl outside your monkey sphere for a minute you'll realize that people that do this ***** are human beings. They don't just suddenly say, "hey I'm going to kill some people today." Time and pressure wear them down. Then murder/suicide seems like the only way out of a hopeless situation. Sometimes the signs are too subtle for most people to notice, sometimes there are no outward signs. In this case there were signs and this is the price that is paid when you choose to ignore them.
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Simply a tragedy. I mean this is NOT funny you giys. I have a friend who has been saying he thinks of suicide every single morning when he wakes up- and his family, anf friends are worried sick. We can't get him to a counselor, and he has a gun...
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This kid deserves the worst. Killing your father because he took away internet access? Wow.
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Only taking away internet access when your kid posts suicide notes?
Wow. -
the usual blood thirsty comment. zzz..
he may be clinically mentally deranged. -
He should get some psychatric help and some strong meds.
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I can think of many others that deserve worse. This is just terribly sad.
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This is so sad. I really feel for the kid, obviously he's messed up but I'm sure the Myspace angle is partly media hype. Why oh why would you leave a shotgun and ammo lying around Dad? Gun control anyone?
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I don't think so. You don't kill someone for having myspace taken away. In my mind it had to be an accumulation of stress, misguided parenting, abuse, mental illness, etc
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That's not a kid. That's a psychopath.
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@delose. I agree, cause taking the internet away solves nothing, in this situation. It is just sweeping the issue under the rug. The real issue wasn't the internet. The internet was just his medium of expression.
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Obviously this kid's a psycho. No matter how bad your dad is, you don't do something like this. Mental hospital for you!
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This is a very complex case. Family matter can get real personal sometimes and even lead to someone getting killed. It is sad that it had to come to the father loosing his life. The child should be treated harshly in the eyes of the law. I still contend that a jury should decided what will happen to him. In family matters it is very important that the law does not have the final say. The people should have a change to take a look at all of the evidence and see what is best for this situation. Maybe the kid is just a monster and should get the chair for what he did. Maybe he is very disturbed young man who is better to be in a mental home for the majority of this life.
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For the majority of his life? Nope, he's a juvenile. In most states, you can't keep a juvenile incarcerated when they turn 18, no matter what they've done. At that point, the only way to keep him behind bars or in a room with padded walls is to prove in court that he's a danger to public safety. And that's a tough hill to climb, even for murder. And as a juvenile, he would never get a death sentence. He's probably going to be back on the streets in a few years.
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He's 15. What he did was really ***** up - but he should not be "treated harshly in the eyes of the law," and BTW Stonedonkey, in many states (in California for sure as I have seen it happen to someone I knew who killed another kid at the age of 12) if you commit murder before the age of 18 you can be remanded to the CYA until age 25. In cases like this where it's fairly clear that the kid has mental health issues that is likely the sort of thing that will happen.
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And if he gets out at 25 and kills his Mom for refusing to give him internet access back? He's a piece of ***** murderer. His father didn't get a trial, his father was killed in cold blood. This kid deserves to suffer.
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People like this should be removed from the gene pool, regardless of age. I wish there was a voluntary death option for long prison sentences (you have the option of being put to the death, voluntary suicide basically). So instead of spending time in jail the kid could just take the death option and do what he wanted to do anyway and do society a favor.
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with people ***** out babies by the dozens, this little ***** won't be missed, fry him
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I'm not saying he shouldn't be punished severly - my point is that this is not a simple case.
The kid is going to suffer just based on what he has done for the rest of his life...will probably be hated by his family, etc.
He's going to be tried as an adult and charged with 1st degree murder, which likely (for a juvenile) means life in prison. He's not going to get the death penalty - they don't execute juveniles....at least, not yet...
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Sigh.
And more innocent people die in gun violence.
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It's very important to be defenceless in one's own home. Because, after all, if you ban guns, no criminals breaking into your house will ever have one.
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It's very important to be defenceless in one's own home. Because, after all, if you ban guns, no criminals breaking into your house will ever have one.
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The reality is that this kid clearly had some Daddy issues and his father didn't handle the situation properly. the internet is a luxury and people seem to forget that, kids especially. Losing a luxury hardly warrants moping about, let alone killing your *father*. That said, if your kid is posting suicide threats you shouldn't try to stop him from threatening suicide, it's not the threats that are the issue, it's his thought-process. The kid should have been allowed to keep posting and should have gone to some intense therapy. Then his posts could have been monitored and evaluated. I hate hearing about these stories; they're depressing and they add to the negative news about the internet.
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What this ***** kid needs is the proverbial Holiday in Cambodia to know what a world of hurt is really like.
On a side note, has anyone considered taking a year off from the internet? Just like, shutting down, and seeing what it would be like to go a full year without using a computer for anything other than work/school? I'm considering it because I always sit down in a good mood, and leave in a bad one.
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You know where else you're banned from get on myspace? Jail.
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Turning down a friend request, the wrong way...
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Thank God he didn't play video games.
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MORE COMPLETELY INCIDENTAL ALARMIST CRAP
What color socks did he have on? Ban that color before more homocides are caused by it!-
Even though alot of people have dugg you down you do kinda have a point
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So you mean myspace is not full of psychotic emo kids looking to kill themselves or the people around them? Wow you just shattered my views of the world. I don't even know who I am anymore. I think I'll have a seat over there.
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normally i'd agree with you, except he admitted the reason he did it. besides, noone is "blaming" the internet or saying ban the internet.. they're saying that by the kids own admittance, he couldn't cope with the loss of it. that means the kid has deep mental problems. nothing else.
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If the kid didn't have a keyboard, he wouldn't have written those things. That's why I think we should ban keyboards.
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I'm guessing this kid played alot of WoW.
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Crap, bury everything I post today...I am a ***** moron.
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Yikes, he sounds like he belongs in a padded room... no mental stability whatsoever.
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Im glad this happened, parents are just plain idiots when it comes to unstable children.
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Seems to me that if his Dad let him keep using it, the whole suicide deal would have taken care of itself!
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poor kid ruined the rest of his life over a such a stupid thing
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