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- chedderfiend, on 10/12/2007, -1/+69what was that little DOG doing there. If i were the lion I woulda eaten that little fluffy dog-snack, bite size + not followed by immediate death
- TheGreenBastard, on 10/12/2007, -2/+44The lion is better off...
The rest of it's life would've been spent in a cage, being tortured by these *****.
Leave them in the wild. Circuses are so 19th century. - Yashar, on 10/12/2007, -1/+39He was speaking Farsi., some things he said:
The trainer was holding the lion for over 45 minutes while help arrived. Throughout the video he was calling for a gun. (no idea why it took so long) - metamorfoza, on 10/12/2007, -1/+39I *liked* the way the guy with gun came in. It was like "WTF is this?! bang, bang, bang"
Also, I don't understand though why they didn't have some kind of tranquilizers, considering that they have a lion 'ruining' around.
anyway , intense and disturbing nevertheless. - durru7, on 10/12/2007, -2/+38I feel bad for both the guy and the lion, he acted off his instincts.
sad :( - kakwakas, on 10/12/2007, -5/+39You can take the animal out of the wild, but you can't take the wild out of the animal...
- thenativeraver, on 11/11/2007, -8/+35*Died
- jftitan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+28The problem of when a wild animal is captured (attempted at taming), publicly displayed is this. Once that animal has taste of live flesh, it will from that day forward not have a problem with attacking another human being.
While this isn't a 'fact' in my mind, other than opinion, I personally would say that should be accurate enough to account for reason to kill the lion. The lion had attacked a person. What is there to say the lion won't attack another person because it lived after the first attempt.
I do feel sorry for the lion, and the last sound it made was almost heart wreaking to me as well, as seeing the man survive. (don't get me wrong, I AM glad the man survived, but this will scar him for life or not... you never know.)
I can say, I know the feeling. I was attacked by a wild dog/wolf while camping a few years ago (2003). It sucked and I survived fully intact with a few deep bites and a ***** load of scratches. The lucky thing that helped me survive the situation was not panicking. I let the dog take a bite out of me, while trying to let it take a fist down its throat. When I was able to jam my closed hand and arm in its mouth, it was too much/not normal for it at the time, and it backed off. We had bit of a staring contest, and then it left me to bleed like hell. I made it back to the camp parking lot, and got help.
I wish there was a merit badge for getting your ass kicked by a wild animal. - reddevil3, on 10/12/2007, -2/+27Damn...at least the guy is alive.
Wtf was he doing there in the first place? - thenativeraver, on 10/12/2007, -2/+24You have issues.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+25We don't take kindly to PETA around here.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+24because if they waited another minute the man could have died. second of all, they didnt have a tranquelizer.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+22In case you wanted this translated. they are speaking in farsi. that guy was at first begging someone to help him. then when he got dragged in they were saying to hit the lion on the head with something. they were telling the officer to shoot it in the head. again. and again.
and on that note... that was a pimp gun the cop had. - Fhionnlaoch, on 10/12/2007, -7/+27"By saying this I am not in any way saying the mans life wasn't important or that no action should have been taken, I just don't see why its ok for us humans to kill something and its not ok for animals..."
Let's start with a few underlying philosophical concepts:
1. There is not absolute morality.
2. Humans feel bad about killing each other for no reason because we evolved this way. It's like societal co-operation, you just can't have every one going around randomly killing other people and expect to maintain societal order within our species.
3. Other animals act the same way, but only within their own species and in special cases outside (such as in symbiotic relationships).
4. Animals usually (as there may be some exceptions to which I am not privy) have no qualms about killing outside their own species. Ever notice how cats kill rats and play with their corpses for fun?
5. It is the same with humans, for if we had morality about killing animals outside our species, we become less competitive.
Furthermore, anthropomorphised cartoons have made society view animals in a human way and, from childhood, westerners begin to feel an illogical compassion for these animals. Don't take that as an insult for I suffer from this too. However, someone growing up around dangerous creatures and knowing their full killing potential would not feel such irrational compassion for them.
In conclusion, it is not immoral, but we feel it is so due to a misfiring of our social/moral complex. - KuntaKinte, on 10/12/2007, -2/+22considering the cruelty animals go through in a circus or some zoos, this lion was probably not well supervised, fed, maintained. it was a ticking time bomb, better this happen here than during a live show or near kids even though it was unfortunate that they didn't act faster which could have saved the lion's life and could have gotten the guy out of there in a better state.
- ckedge, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21It's already happened. Nothing is going to change that. Whether we watch it or not - the past is the past.
Information is knowledge. And we learn from "our" mistakes. - bIuebonics, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19you'll change your mind once you see the unicycle riding, flaming bowling pin juggling, twinkle twinkle little star grunting bear.
- wasd, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18Just crazy. Wow.....
- Lux7, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14Yeah, they were speaking Farsi.
They kept saying, "Shoot it in it's head!".
But yeah... really graphic. - labmouse42, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13Honorable death?
An honorable death is dying during oral sex, not getting eaten by a big cat. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -18/+29"I just don't see why its ok for us humans to kill something and its not ok for animals"
If you can't see that, you're past the point of no return. Go live in the woods or something, spare us.
In fact I hope that's you in that position one day, and then I'd love to see you scream 'don't shoot him' while a lion digs his teeth into your neck. - Goner, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12@PJBonoVox -- you be in charge of hitting the lion on the head, m'kay?
- Greyhaven7, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14Holy *****... I can not imagine what that was like. The terror must've been imense.
- whobutsb, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Leave the animals in the wild. Go on a safari if you want to see them, or watch Planet Earth. Absolutely no reason to keep lions, tigers, bears in a zoo or a circus.
- theoristbj, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Li-ownd!
- Greyhaven7, on 10/12/2007, -5/+14WTF is wrong with you? He may have just been the guy being paid to clean the cage or something. You don't know that that man was the one keeping the lion in captivity you damn hippie.
- AhrenBa, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11That was extremely graphic. I can't imagine what was going through everyone's minds at that time. Wow...that is horrible.
- Spyscience, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11damn, i hope your keyboard eats you Achalemoipas!
- sherwinn, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9***** stupid idiots. I hate all these people. I'm Iranian and I'm ashamed to be associated with them. They killed a lion for nothing. What did you expect would happen, *****? Leave wild animals in the WILD, for ***** sake, what is wrong with the human species? Why must we ***** with EVERYTHING?
- NanoStuff, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9"Wtf was he doing there in the first place?"
Giving the lion the daily beating to keep him submissive. Must have been on vacation the day before. - TheGovernor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Wow, those guys were persian. They were speaking farsi!
The guy being interviewed at the end says:
"He is my brother, he is the lion tamer. I told him the lion is aggitated today but he wouldn't listen. The lion attacked him 20 times before I could grab him and hold his head back against the bars...see there? The bars are bent." - RedHeadedFreak, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11Oh, that lion must have been confused. He thought he was on top of the food chain...nope, king of the jungle has guns now. Sorry lion, you messed with the wrong predator.
- arem, on 10/12/2007, -0/+61. What the heck was the guy doing?
2. Why the heck did they not have a gun ready in case something like this happened?
3. Why the heck do none of the medics know proper CPR?
4. How the heck is he still alive?
He's one lucky son of a gun. Glad he's ok. - ICSU, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Did you notice the small dog walking around without troubles? The lion obviously had a good reason to attack that guy.
- EvilDr.X, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I assume you're joking, but just in case... what exactly is "honorable" about being killed by an animal? Seems to me, short of autoerotic asphyxiation, it would be one of the most embarassing ways to go.
And not completely killing it? Looked pretty dead to me. - dzlpwr, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7He wont do it again.
- EvilFerret, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I'm willing to bet they threw the dog in there hoping the lion go after it instead.
- bIuebonics, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10well... sucks for the guy but umm... it's a lion. i'm pretty sure lions do things like that. lion /= domesticated cat....
- Dumbcollegekid, on 10/12/2007, -7/+12I'll give you a much shorter, easier answer. We have guns and lions don't. Score: 1 Humans, Lions: 0.
- bashar129, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I agree, after they got the guy out of the cage and were giving him medical treatment the lion was still moaning in agony...the guy that shot it could have just walked up and put one between the eyes. The blood pool means that the blood was still flowing inside the lion several minutes after it was shot. Sad to see it die that way...but then again, sad to see a guy get mauled.
- Hale, on 10/12/2007, -1/+69 minutes and 12 seconds
- nick111, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9Well err... quite.
But on that note, ***** people who are cruel to animals. - exoendo, on 11/11/2007, -4/+8"but you can't take the wild out of the animal..."
except when you shoot it. - Brows, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I feel bad for the lion. What we don't see is what provoked the attack.
- deivys, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@Achalemoipas
I do not agree with you one bit but I think I understand where you are coming from. I wish that guy a quick and healthy recovery. Saying that, I think wild animals should not be put in circus and cages for the entertainment of people. They should in my opinion be free in the wild where they belong or placed in zoos where they don't feel too constricted and everyone can observed them from a distance. After all they are wild and they might snap if too much stress gets to them. In this case I feel really bad for the guy getting mauled and a bit sadden at the fate of the lion. - 47knight, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Yashar, any idea if he survived?
- edilclyde, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7the guys dont know how to do CPR correctly.. yet atleast the guy lived..
i know this might sound cruel but i kinda giggled a bit when the medic came running then drops the medic box and leaves.... its like he said.. " ***** this im leaving "
and yeah... very Graphic.. - RedHeadedFreak, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Oh I know, we've been king of the jungle for a long time now. And on another note, it seems that the PETA people would be pretty indifferent to this video. At least the lion is free from captivity now. They wanted Knut the polar bear to die because in their eyes, it's better for an animal to die than be in human captivity.
- voyvf, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Ban all firearms? What the *****? Banning the caging of wild animals for entertainment purposes, I could see. Banning people from being stupid enough to get in the cage *with* the aforementioned wild animals, I could see. But banning firearms?
No. As much as I hate to admit it, a firearm solved this incident.
Outlaw firearms, and only outlaws will have firearms; I wish it weren't true - I personally dislike guns, myself. But it's reality. In this case, unfortunately, Pandora's box has already been opened. - Goner, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5the guy was breathing (and unconscious) on the floor in the cage just before they shot the lion.. I don't think he needed CPR or mouth-to-mouth. I think the 'medics' were just panicking like everyone else and did the only thing they could think of.
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