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- Brennn10, on 11/23/2008, -11/+223They need to stop this comparing. It is so annoying.
- inactive, on 11/23/2008, -6/+205He looks like the Penguin from Batman...
- alf86, on 11/23/2008, -43/+226So, he's going to drastically increase the size of the federal government, yet still fail to turn the economy around? Then when we get involved in another world war we'll give him all the credit for what the war did for the economy? Sounds like a plan... I guess. Not really a good one, but okay, whatever.
- sjbdallas, on 11/23/2008, -5/+177At least they didn't do one of him as Jesus.
- bryson430, on 11/24/2008, -4/+163When did really bad photoshops become acceptable material for national magazine covers?
- NyteStarNyne, on 11/24/2008, -6/+99Sorry, but that's a horrible Photoshop job.
- ultraJesus, on 11/24/2008, -2/+72I wish he actually dressed like that.
- solid12345, on 11/24/2008, -3/+70Did Time magazine hire someone from 4chan to 'shop this?
- Frodoholic, on 11/24/2008, -3/+58...yet
- Clad, on 11/24/2008, -21/+75Thank god someone here actually knows the truth about FDR's New Deal. I'm sick of people glorifying him.
- inactive, on 11/24/2008, -11/+62Two facts:
1. New Deal did not get US out of Great Depression, World War 2 did.
2. Most of economist agree that if not for wrong use of policies, Great Depression would not last that long. In fact it would be a mediocre recession - chrissku, on 11/24/2008, -1/+48I don't think we're going to see Obama riding around in too many convertibles.
- xsecretfiles, on 11/24/2008, -5/+50He hasn't even started for god sake!
So far his presidential nominations look more like Clinton v2 though.... - rjseals, on 11/24/2008, -9/+47Lame.
- vind, on 11/24/2008, -14/+50Just like FDR, Obama will pump more money into the economy that we don't have, enlarge government programs and create new, pointless but expensive programs.
(Sorry, I'm still upset Ron Paul never had a chance.) - MeatMountain, on 11/24/2008, -5/+40They should have done a cover with Obama as Batman, that would have been AWESOME.
- qwertyxuiop, on 11/24/2008, -0/+25ummm.. the sample size is too small for this to be a statistically significant conclusion
- PHJames88, on 11/24/2008, -8/+31That's lame.
- Bananaboy8000, on 11/24/2008, -1/+22At least it's not as bad as this Times cover
http://img.timeinc.net/time/magazine/archive/cover ... - CitizenSweeps, on 11/24/2008, -1/+22Are they implying that Obama is a cripple?
- roddack, on 11/24/2008, -10/+30@askantik
Perhaps you don't really understand all the falgrant violation of the constitution that FDR commited and then to top it off threatened to pack the hell out of the court until he got a majority that would agree with him - alamedaman, on 11/24/2008, -4/+23so he's going to throw thousands of american citizens in concentration camps without trial? sweet.
- PecanHead, on 11/24/2008, -2/+20It's fake.
- MrFurious2k, on 11/24/2008, -2/+20Seriously, I know people want him to do well, but until he does something I wish people would just shut up.
- alf86, on 11/23/2008, -1/+18Right, but after the war the soldiers returned home with money in their pockets and those that stayed home had money from the factory jobs they got and what was saved due to all the rationing. That's a whole bunch of disposable income that was suddenly available.
- badenglishihave, on 11/24/2008, -3/+19Pretty interesting that the courts found most elements of the "New Deal" to be unconstitutional.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Deal - chibij918, on 11/24/2008, -4/+20Wow you're really setting Obama up with ridiculously high expectations...he's gonna have to spend a lot of time making people realize he isn't a grand savior capable of accomplishing everything.
- vbullinger, on 11/24/2008, -6/+21Yes, "change," indeed!
So, does "change" just mean "Democrats" or something? Same old, same old that we had during the Clinton, Carter, Johnson years? - michaelrsa, on 11/24/2008, -3/+18God damn it, they need to stop wit these comparisons. Right after Obama was elected, all the political cartoons were having him with Lincoln or MLK in some sort of sappy situation and it was just painful. To be honest, do we really know if Lincoln would of really wanted a black president? He may of wanted to free them, but really it would not have been to much for him to view them as inferior still based on the time he came from.
To be clear I'm not implying anything myself, just making a hypothesis. - nkleffman, on 11/24/2008, -11/+25FRD could be considered the worst because he set precedents of illegality. He didn't care what the constitution said, he wanted socialism and he subverted the rule of law in order to get it. Nixon / Bush etc are just following in his foot steps...
But in my opinion Lincoln was the worst. He destroyed our Republic, which used to be a voluntary association of independent states, and turned it into a national government under the threat of a barrel of a gun. And before you cry racist, do some research. Lincoln was a white supremacist that was in favor of sending all the slaves back to Africa. He often said he wanted the new western states to be for whites only, as well as that he had no interest in freeing the slaves. The civil war had nothing to do with slavery, in fact the Emancipation Proclamation didn't even free the slaves in the union states, Virginia and other northern controlled states were exempted, it only "freed" the slaves in the southern states of which he had no control over anyway! It was just a propaganda technique because the South was winning.
Look up the book 'The Real Lincoln' or 'Lincoln Unmasked' - gonzoblair, on 11/24/2008, -0/+14Looks like Hunter S. Obama.
We can stop here, this is bailout country! - inactive, on 11/24/2008, -1/+15http://www.dominica-weekly.com/wp-content/uploads/ ...
- y0y0howsdajell0, on 11/24/2008, -3/+16It's telling if you look at, 1) it's Clinton all over, and 2) who some of them used to work for (Citi, GS, etc)...
- astroslut, on 11/24/2008, -3/+16More info to agree with you.
Article from 2004:
"FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists calculate"
http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/FDR-s-Policie ... - omgwtflawl, on 11/24/2008, -6/+19"do you care to elaborate why FDR is the worst president ever? Kind of an extreme statement especially in light of the bush2 and nixon administrations"
Might be a far cry as to "worst president ever", but he did establish some worrying trends in the federal government which continue to this day.
The most obvious is warmongering. He wanted to be involved in the war in Europe even worse then the general population wanted nothing to do with it. He created a foreign policy where he knew Japan would attack the US and seized upon it when it happened to go to war with both Germany and Japan. The Japanese Internment camps are by far the worst civil rights blight on the hands of the United States since slavery. He also suppressed freedom of speech, making it illegal to criticize the war in the press. He also rang up a massive debt, more so then any president ever had in the past.
That is only war stuff, we haven't even got to the economy yet. He created the "New Deal", which took tax money from successful businesses and created government make-work jobs. This extended the depression by as much as six years by some estimates, yet somehow he gets credit for "ending the recession". I suppose if I jumped on the back of a drowning man and he somehow fights his way to shore I can get credit for "rescuing" him. He created one of the three Ponzi Schemes which are facing massive shortfalls and will bankrupt the country by 2030. His "pack the supreme court" comment as mentioned above was so scary and so Monarchical in nature it is surprising no one "voted" him out of office from the rooftops.
FDR was a terrible president, but for some reason he is revered today as some sort of deity who single-handedly rescued us from the great depression while strangling Hitler with one hand and punching Hirohito with the other. I blame Public Schools, personally. - DarkBlueAnt, on 11/24/2008, -10/+22*Insert Predictable Polio Comment*
- RudeTurnip, on 11/24/2008, -0/+12I came here for this and was not disappointed.
- cadmiumpaint, on 11/24/2008, -0/+12i was really disappointed in this cover. it just looks so bad.
- fluxion, on 11/24/2008, -0/+11Harvey Dent aint got ***** on that
- buttridge, on 11/24/2008, -1/+12We wouldn't need FDIC insurance if anyone could trust their bank enough not to loan out six times the amount of money they actually have. If banks could even pretend to be solvent, the insurance would be completely unnecessary.
- Harabeck, on 11/24/2008, -2/+12It's also possible the emancipation proclamation was merely an attempt to hurt the south economically.
- farfromsubtl, on 11/24/2008, -0/+10http://totallylookslike.com/2008/10/16/franklin-ro ...
In fact, people have always compared Burgess Meredith's version of the penguin to FDR. - greenlight2001, on 11/24/2008, -0/+10Umm... you were suppose to respond with something about pixel and having seen a lot of them in your time...
- inactive, on 11/24/2008, -1/+10@askantik
http://tinyurl.com/44ysum
New deal policies actually hurt America, prolonging the Great Depression by at least 7 years. This in a study in 2004 by UCLA - bacomage1, on 11/24/2008, -0/+9YOU'RE kidding, right?
- dawgma, on 11/24/2008, -2/+11This cover is so bad... it's not even a good composition. They've enlarged his head to fit over FDR's old image when they should have shrunk the old image and filled in extra background material. Plus, keeping the color in Obama highlights the awkwardness of how the hands are arranged. Probably should have desaturated it so the color barely came through, or not at all. Or even just colorize the whole photo.
Overall it looks awkward, amateurish and it's not a very accurate comparison.
A better comparison would have been to have a picture of Obama in place of FDR during one of his fireside chats: http://www.personal.psu.edu/t3b/Tom%27smediafolder ...
Since Obama has announced he will be issuing weekly addresses over YouTube, I think it would have been a better choice. - cochonnerie, on 11/24/2008, -4/+13I think it's a bit more complicated than that. Fiscal policy has much to do with why FDR's New Deal failed to fix the economy -- although it did improve the lives of many Americans. Despite spending more on public works projects, FDR was still a conservative in terms of budgeting. So while he spent more, he tried to offset those costs by taxing more as well -- which isn't Keynesian thinking at all. Keynes would have spent even more than FDR and taxed way less, effectively creating much larger deficits for the government. While that didn't exactly occur during the war, at least on the tax side, the government did increase its spending significantly during the war (enough to offset the increase in tax). If you think about it, WWII was one big giant public works project anyway, so in theory FDR was right.. he just wasn't spending enough for the New Deal to be effective -- that and he was shooting himself in the foot by increasing taxes.
What's interesting, I find, is that despite spending billions upon billions of dollars on the war in Iraq per month, the war itself has failed to stimulate the American economy -- let alone get it out of/prevent the current economic crisis. This probably has to do with the fact that few new soldiers are joining and also the nature of the industry itself having become highly technological (meaning only the educated can work in the field) and automation. This limits the number of people in the lower tiers of the economic/education hierarchy from benefiting very much, while making the rich even richer. I'm only speculating, however. - forthex, on 11/24/2008, -3/+12When I saw Obama in that convertible, I thought Time was comparing him to JFK.
That would have been a dick move, Time. - vbullinger, on 11/24/2008, -0/+9Yeah, Cheney's going to be pissed: that's his claim to fame.
- apackofmonkeys, on 11/24/2008, -2/+11Being a grand savior is what he promised to everybody so he could get elected, so now he needs to follow through.
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