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- W00DR0W, on 10/10/2007, -1/+76Just to clarify, officers are legally required to give you the complaint form and you do not have to answer questions before hand
- Numarx, on 10/10/2007, -3/+64seems like when they thought it was an undercover bust they changed their attitude and got all nice and professional again. It seems if your in a position of power in America you can break the law and act like a fascist ***** in the process. This is becoming very common lately.
- eckre, on 10/10/2007, -3/+49this is good. who is going to police the police is the question....
- Soriven, on 10/10/2007, -1/+42"People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people."
- W00DR0W, on 10/10/2007, -0/+39I just looked up who posted the video, he's a retired sheriff deputy.
- budgetguitar, on 10/10/2007, -3/+38Way to perpetuate the stereotype officer 'hospital visit'. And the police wonder why people don't trust them. It's douche-nozzles like this that give cops a bad name. Bad cop, no donut.
- rlahiff, on 10/10/2007, -0/+34Here is the individual that took the video.
Paul Wesley Parker, III -- Staff Investigator
Undergraduate Studies, University of Nebraska
Paul Wesley Parker joined the firm as the senior staff investigator in October 2006. Mr. Parker is a nationally recognized seasoned staff criminal investigator. The vast majority of Mr. Parker's clients regularly face serious felony charges, with potential sentences ranging anywhere from 5 years to life imprisonment.
Mr. Parker frequently assists in preparing criminal defenses, locating witnesses, serving legal documents, interviewing police and prospective witnesses, and gathering and reviewing evidence. Mr. Parker also collects information on the parties to litigation, takes photographs, testifies repeatedly in court, and assembles evidence and reports for trials.
Mr. Parker is a seasoned investigator whose services are regularly sought out by numerous legal professionals. Mr. Parker came into national prominence related to his investigations during the Reginald Denny trial in the early 1990's. As a result of his investigative work, Mr. Parker has been interviewed on numerous television news shows, including, but not limited to, Dateline NBC, FOX News in Texas, New Jersey and New York, and CNN Headline News. Mr. Parker's former corporate clients include Dateline NBC, MTV and FOX News. Some of Mr. Parker's former criminal clients include the late Tupac Shakur, OJ Simpson, Ray Arnold, and the LA Four defendants in the Reginald Denny case.
http://www.lutilaw.com/thefirm_pwp.htm - eckre, on 10/10/2007, -3/+36Will someone post some details on what the officer's name is, and where I can email superiors? OR lemme guess, it has to go through him first.
- ReturnToFreedom, on 10/10/2007, -1/+34I don't think that this is what the authors of the constitution had in mind.
- wofldibofl, on 10/10/2007, -2/+31youtube ?
- Stochio, on 10/10/2007, -2/+29Nice "hospital" line, you ass.
- dreicher, on 10/10/2007, -5/+31The L.A. County Sheriff's Office is not the LAPD. The LAPD has an external intake process for civilian complaints - it's even alluded to by Officer Friendly in the video. Nice work poster - way to completely screw things up in ten words or less.
- UtopiaInTheSky, on 10/10/2007, -0/+24The guy walks like he's a mech robot.
- an0nymous, on 10/10/2007, -1/+22He said he wanted a complaint form. They didn't want to give it to him.
He had broken no laws, and was not offensive. There was no jerking around.
He sounded coherent to me. Scared (justifiably) but his intent was clear.
I guess by "sounds like he was on drugs" you mean he was a lower income black guy and spoke like it. right?
All they had to do was give him the form.
Noone is above the law. - saleem, on 10/10/2007, -2/+22coast guard?
- cptpike, on 10/10/2007, -1/+20This really is a shame. Hopefully we can get this to the front page and have someone shed some light on it. I really hate it when anyone abuses authority.
- Yankees368, on 10/10/2007, -1/+20I love the pen clicking by the officer at 10:45....he knows hes in trouble at that point
- 0zzy, on 10/10/2007, -1/+17The hell, what is wrong with the world?
- DoctorX, on 10/10/2007, -0/+15My brother was one of the good cops you speak of, an officer of the Western Australian Police Force. He'd go out of his way to help people, such as driving little old ladies home late at night. The harder he tried to serve the public trust, the more he was ridiculed by his fellow officers for his efforts, most of which were just school bullies turned pro. He recently quit the force in disgust.
So yeah, I ***** hate cops. - mablco, on 10/10/2007, -16/+31cops are so pathetic
- roastnewt1, on 10/10/2007, -0/+14Funny, I was robbed last month, and it just reinforced that sentiment for me. Especially after I called it in and they said they'd be right over, but never ***** showed up.
- LexisNexis, on 10/10/2007, -1/+14We should have anti-police, they have purple lights on their cars and only bust cops who are doing illegal things.
- cramd, on 10/10/2007, -1/+14I am surprised that they got the tape back, or that it had not suffered and "issue" during his "reviewing" process.
- jellygraph, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13To be honest, the sheriff looked rather sheep-ish towards the end and you kinda feel sorry for him... kinda. The sheriff had no right to detain this guy, seize his property and demand identification. He was innocent and there was no cause for him to threaten him. All he had to say was, "Sorry, we do not hand out complaint forms. That's just the rules and I honestly can't help you."
So, why didn't he?
I'm thinking he tried to bully the guy, thinking that he might have something to complain that might put him or someone else important in trouble. - rlahiff, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13Holy ***** did this video piss me off at this cop. I hope he gets fired.
- CornStarch, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13Other than bully, intimidate, and lie to a civilian about his right to receive a complaint form without giving any identification.
- kob0724, on 10/10/2007, -9/+21Don't get me wrong, I'm all for holding those in power and anyone else for that matter accountable for their actions. But the sweeping generalizations that seem to crop up about cops on digg always make me wince when ever I read them. Yes, there are some dumb cops out there who make some pretty huge mistakes. But there are also many cops out there who risk their lives everyday. I've been on a few ride-a-longs and I must say my experience gave me deep respect for police officers. Once you watch a man console a woman who's husband just committed suicide while trying to protect the crime scene at the same time, or tirelessly give CPR to some one until the medics arrive even though the person is probably a gonner, you can't help but have a little respect for him.
- psyckboy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10I don't normally wear robes. Is there a connection between robes and police?
- BonerMachine, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10The police are in a position of authority, but don't forget that they serve the public. They work for us. It's not the other way around.
- geminus, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9Just contacted KTLA... is there any more information on this video, like the cop's name, station, etc?
- CornStarch, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10Like ***** and threatening civilians from behind a badge.
- Xarddrax, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10Barney Fife complex. This crap makes me sick.
- RpgActioN, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo
- CornStarch, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8The cop just blatantly lied about the man's rights, and that is a person you would entrust your name to? They are supposed to hand you the form no questions asked by department policy.
- TrevorBelmont, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Settle down, pal. He made a fairly reasonable mistake, so he's "obviously" an idiot? Do "gifted" folks like yourself need 29 consecutive exclamation points to get an idea across? "MY GOD" he exclaimed! Gonna give yourself a heart attack...
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8your stupid comment deserves to be buried
- kcpwnsgman, on 10/10/2007, -4/+10Just because of a few isolated issues like this does not make all officers evil, just like how making blind assumptions and ***** hate doesn't come from all diggers.
- Sp4nk, on 10/10/2007, -10/+16The cop says right off the bat, "I explained to you earlier..." which obviously means his earlier visits weren't taped. For all we know, this guy could've made a half dozen visits to this station and acted like a complete ass before becoming Mr. Hidden Camera Investigation Guy. Regardless of the cop's behavior, which shouldn't be a shock to anyone, the whole story isn't here. Buried.
- TrevorBelmont, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Hey, it's NEVER appropriate for a cop to tell someone he's gonna send him to the hospital.
- 8bit_Hero, on 10/10/2007, -4/+10The L.A. County Sheriff's Office is not the LAPD.
- sparf, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Those who are granted power will abuse it, in some form or another. That's what's wrong with it.
- slipgrid, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7I'm sure you are wrong.
- geminus, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6To my elected officials and representatives,
I am deeply disturbed this evening by a video I have recently bore witness to on the Internet. In this recently posted video, a civilian (maybe not too educated but still well within his rights) walks into a Los Angeles County Sheriff's (Harbor Patrol) office and vocalizes his desire to file a written complaint.
Within minutes, this video goes south. The sergeant unlawfully detains the non combative civilian, illegally searches his belongings, and makes verbal threats of potential physical abuse stating very clearly,
Officer: "Put your hands on that counter right there. Do NOT take your hands off that counter for any reason on this earth. You understand me?
Complaintant: "I gotch you"
Officer: "Okay, they come off that counter for any other reason than I tell you to take them off that counter, you're going to pay visit downtown at the hospital ward."
The officer during this begins searching the civilian. He discovers the camera, questions the civilian if he's recording the officer's actions and the civilian denies.
Later in the video a third party steps in with a video camera, Paul Wesley Parker, III -- Staff Investigator and retired police officer. The sheriff quickly changes his demeanor, obviously realizing he's made grave mistakes and civil violations. What he doesn't know is the the video has been archived wirelessly. The sheriff continues to make mistakes and denies his recorded threats.
I leave the rest up to you for your judgement... has this officer acted in the best interest of law enforcement? Or is he the very reason that people like myself have left law enforcement ?
http://media.putfile.com/Los-Angeles-County-Sheriffs
William M. Nett
Former Military Police Officer - aggrogeek, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Here is an excerpt taken from flexyourrights.org:
7. When do I have to show ID?
This is a tricky issue. As a general principle, citizens who are minding their own business are not obligated to "show their papers" to police. In fact, there is no law requiring citizens to carry identification of any kind.
Nonetheless, carrying an ID is required when you’re driving or flying. Driving without a license is a crime, and no one is allowed to board an airplane without first presenting an ID. These requirements have been upheld on the premise that individuals who prefer not to carry ID can choose not to drive or fly.
From here, ID laws only get more complicated. In Hiibel v. Sixth Judicial District Court of Nevada, the Supreme Court upheld state laws requiring citizens to disclose their identity to police when officers have reasonable suspicion to believe criminal activity may be taking place. Commonly known as 'stop and identify' statutes, these laws permit police to arrest criminal suspects who refuse to identify themselves.
Currently the following states have stop and identify laws: AL, AR, CO, DE, FL, GA, IL, KS, LA, MO, MT, NE, NH, NM, NV, NY, ND, RI, UT, VT, WI
Regardless of your state's law, keep in mind that police can never compel you to identify yourself without reasonable suspicion to believe you're involved in criminal activity. Rather than asking the officer if he/she has reasonable suspicion, test it yourself by asking if you're free to go.
If the officer says you’re free to go, leave immediately and refrain from answering any additional questions.
If the officer detains you, you'll have to decide whether withholding your identity is worth the possibility of arrest or a prolonged detention. In cases of mistaken identity, revealing who you are might help to resolve the situation quickly. On the other hand, if you're on parole in California, for example, revealing your identity could lead to a legal search. Knowing your state's laws can help you make the best choice.
Keep in mind that the officer's decision to detain you will not always hold up in court. ‘Reasonable suspicion' is a vague evidentiary standard, which lends itself to mistakes on the officer's part. If you're searched or arrested following an officer's ID request, always contact an attorney to discuss the incident and explore your legal options. - leftfield, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6he was wearing that michael jackson jacket with a hundred zippers
- sintaxi, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Im sorry, you cant judge a cop by how he treats someone who just lost their husband or by how he performs CPR on someone who is dyiing. A good cop treats everyone with respect, even criminals.
- Rooster99, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Totally agree with you kob0724, but DoctorX has a valid point. My brother works for the Australian Federal Police and he tells me the condition the majority of police outfits across the country is in, is embarrassing. All the experienced, high-ranking officers are now being payed on a contract basis, so they they are easily replaced! This makes them even more high strung in a high pressure job!
But my brother says the worst thing about the police force in its current state. is the amount of high-school bullies and jocks that are being recruited. Its been like that for at least 10 years in NSW. I don't usually make generalizations, however these days when I have to talk to a cop (breath tested, randomly questioned, etc....) I usually assume they are going to try and ***** me. It's a pleasant surprise to see the occasional cop that is doing their job, and is polite, respectful and actually believes in the laws that the are upholding. - Cmonkey67, on 10/10/2007, -4/+8I was waiting for the idiot who would say we don't have the full story.
Thank you. A police station (or Sheriff's dept.) is public property, which everyone has a right to enter at any time for any reason. If he is asked to leave the property by the authorities that is a different thing all together but that didn't happen. Therefor, it doesn't matter how many times he came in and jerked anyone around, in a legal standpoint the issue at hand is: A young black male entered the Los Angeles Sheriffs Dept. requesting a complaint form. The man in question did not understand the procedure and process of forming a complaint (which cannot be held against him). None of this gives any officer the right to detain a person and his property. (I know the officer said he "wasn't being detained" but when you come up behind a person blocking them inside a building and physically restrain them (you can hear the man tell the officer his wallet is in his back pocket, which leaves you to assume that he has no use of his hands at that point) and then proceed to do a detailed search and then seize their property, that is detention, by the definition). You can argue all you want about how "we don't have the full story", but guess what we never will, neither will a judge or anyone else except for the man in question and the officers involved. Regardless what we can clearly see on this tape is a violation of someones civil liberties, and you can take that to a judge.
Not to mention he was threatened with bodily harm for no reason, but hey! we don't know the full story, right? - UtopiaInTheSky, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4The cop gets owned at 10:00 though.
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