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- flossdaily, on 07/18/2009, -0/+19Dugg for pointing out how awful the underlying philosophical message of Battlestar Galactica was.
- JoeHague, on 07/18/2009, -1/+13I thought this was going to be an article about homeless people being abducted and experimented on by aliens.
It's not/ - Nintendesert, on 07/18/2009, -2/+12I couldn't get past "de-housed"
- Subduction, on 07/18/2009, -0/+9Thanks, you saved me some time.
- uncleosbert, on 07/18/2009, -0/+8do they carry FUNbags?
- Tumblew33ds, on 07/18/2009, -2/+10Good analogies... This article allows you to consider the 'by-products' of wealth and power
- DarkShroud, on 07/18/2009, -0/+8Farscape is an awesome show. I just couldn't get into BSG now or back in the 80s.
- tomarocco, on 07/18/2009, -1/+7Relevant
- milomilomilo, on 07/18/2009, -0/+6That really surprises me, I would have said florida without question.
I was homeless for a time, and its no joke down here.
I was lucky to get in a spot at one of the shelters trustee programs, where they give you a paying job and you along with the other trustees run the shelter. The only non previously homeless staff there is 2 9-5 counselors and the woman who did fund raising.
The place could accommodate 70 or so on bunks and another 40 on matts when it rained at night, and we always had a line of at least 200 people outside that we let shower and get dinner but had to turn away at 6pm. and this was only one of 5 shelters in the town.
Even those that do aknowledge the homeless problem always have to have some reason to put on it; whether it be laziness, drug problems, mental health issues etc. yet we completely ignore that all you need to do is miss two rent payments, or lose your job in todays economy and its the same raw deal for you.
And try getting a job in garbage clothes, or stinking like pure ass because you have to pretty much keep walking all day because the cops will come hassle you if you sit somewhere for too long.
But I guess its how people assuage their guilt for being such compassion-less pricks; from some kind of label that makes people without a place to live inferior to you as a human being and therefore not worth your attention.
edit: also, being homeless in florida is a good way to get a criminal record without really doing ***** wrong. I'm not going to race the edit timer to type out half a dozen paragraphs on how the judges are in bed with the police and so on down here, but if you are in fascist florida you know exactly what I'm talking about.
from,
Imperial polk county
(thats really the name of the county, with a big badge as the emblem on all the signs, its *****)
- DerangedPenguin, on 07/18/2009, -0/+6I had a friend down in Atlanta GA, a Vietnam Vet and a former "tunnel rat" it terrifies him to be indoors now. Each month he gets a retirement check from the Army deposited into his saving account and he uses an outdoor ATM. If he needs assistance he politely asks either a police officer or a bank employee to help him outside. Yes is a little "off bubble" but to him the outdoors is his home.He tends to move about the country following warmer weather northward in the spring time and heading south as winter approaches. He will tell you to your face "I am not homeless, just a bit crazy."
- ShoggothDreams, on 07/18/2009, -1/+6I had no idea what to expect from this, going in. Odd grammar and such aside, which I consider snide and missing the point to dwell on, I found the article fascinating. I have never been homeless, or de-housed, etc. I was shown a worldview quite different from my own, but which I could still understand and respect.
- Yabutydu, on 07/18/2009, -2/+7Very good!
- gbudavid, on 07/18/2009, -1/+6Oregon Is Tops Per Capita in Homeless
http://www.portlandtribune.com/news/story.php?stor ... - k3rfuffl3, on 07/18/2009, -0/+4You win an Internet good sir
- bmcnally, on 07/18/2009, -7/+11Umm . . . After reading the article, it just seems like a bunch of buzzwords and half baked analysis that never actually coalesce into a point that relates to our present situation. I'm pretty sure that some of the allegories make no sense, but I haven't watched enough Farscape to really call her on it.
-You don't need quotation marks around everything and you don't need commas sprinkled into every sentence.
-"that only the de-housed can save ourselves by relying on our accumulated skills and wisdom regardless of what mistakes or disruption we may, in error or by deliberation, execute in pursuit of our mutual goal" -This entire paragraph made no sense.
-Our protagonist, Creighton just wants what every ‘homeless’ person wants.
A lot of homeless people want this, but more want alcohol for the night, their next fix, or medication for a mental health problem. The chronically homeless are generally not there by some mistake but rather are on the streets due to a psychological problem that prevents them from working towards a home. - ShoggothDreams, on 07/18/2009, -1/+5Umm.. I think she is in a better position to speak on this with authority then we are.
- SalmonGod, on 07/18/2009, -0/+3Well said. Few things irk me as much as assumptions that everybody has equal opportunity and if anything goes wrong it's your fault. So many people seem fully convinced that all poor people are lazy. The only explanation I've ever seen is that they're either convincing themselves of what they must to ease their consciences, or they've lived sheltered lives without ever getting to know someone who got screwed by unfortunate circumstances and/or the greed/hatred of someone else.
- goodnewsevery1, on 07/18/2009, -1/+4Conclusion of article: You can't sit on your ass and wait for big government to save you from x,y,z... band together and do it ourselves.
Argument made using plots of BSG (big God saves the day) vs Farscape. (find whoever you can and do the best you can)
- StanleyKoolPrik, on 07/18/2009, -1/+4In the future, we will feed our homeless to flesh eating robots.
- Nintendesert, on 07/18/2009, -0/+3Robots are expensive, people are cheap.
- MrTea, on 07/19/2009, -0/+3Actually, it's more about why it sucks.
- Lykil, on 07/18/2009, -0/+3Where are all the articles about those abducted homeless!?!?
- sanman, on 07/18/2009, -0/+2but Oregon is not the home of sci-fi
- inactive, on 07/18/2009, -4/+6Thats retarded, living on the street is not a home. People without a roof over their heads are homeless.
- inactive, on 07/18/2009, -0/+2there goes the neighborhood
- DerangedPenguin, on 07/18/2009, -0/+2Or urban-outdoorsmen and women. What about the person who avoids urban areas entirely preferring to remain in the suburbs or country or wilderness?
- JoeHague, on 07/19/2009, -0/+2Obviously, 97.8% of homeless people are ***** with- by aliens/
- falconear, on 07/19/2009, -0/+2I guess in a way BSG is a story about the entire human race being forced to live in their cars. Think about it, no real possibility of home ownership, all lodgings are temporary, and everybody is constantly being shuffled from one place to the other. Plus, no new clothes, bad sanitation, eating garbage and recycled food...yeah, sounds like homelessness.
- SgtFish, on 07/18/2009, -2/+3Wait, "Sci-Fi"?
Did you mean "SyFy"? - TCBevolver, on 07/18/2009, -3/+4On the contrary, most homeless are homeless because of government policies such as:
Deinstitutionalization of chronically mentally ill, ultimately to lessen taxes on the wealthy;
Commoditization of real estate, i.e. profit-seeking which eliminates truly affordable housing;
Anti-union and anti-worker policies which depress wages (the minimum wage, if it had kept pace with real inflation since the 1970's, would now be about $17/hr.)
The existence of a homeless class results (largely) from the existence of a robber class. It's not as if there's no land nor building materials for the homeless to have homes; it's the way the economy is structured to aggrandize a few.
And let's not forget that our sinful for-profit health insurance industry causes more than 50% of bankruptcies. There are many Americans out on the street because of a illness or injury.
See Michael Moore's great and very true film "Sicko." - XZanatos, on 07/19/2009, -0/+1Your choice of description depends entirely on whether those various people are living that way on purpose. A "nomadic" lifestyle is by choice. On another hand there are plenty of Bums in my town because they bum money off people, and they go around scavenging cans for recycling money to buy beer. The traffic corner at the local Wall*mart if a very popular spot for their bumming activities..
I could detail other descriptions, but I mostly try to not think about it all too much. They don't have to be so annoying about it. - sooperdooper, on 07/19/2009, -0/+1De-housed in the Home-atorium?
I... I'll show myself out. - MrTea, on 07/19/2009, -0/+1or to ourselves in the form of tasty green crackers rumored to be soy- and seaweed-based
- sooperdooper, on 07/19/2009, -1/+1Very true. In Houston (Montrose-area at least), most of the homeless are schizo-affective if not fully schizophrenic.
And it's not like there isn't already enough housing to go around, but somebody's always got a "better" plan -- like jacking up rent to attract "desirable" tenants, or razing empty four-plexes to build townhomes. - inactive, on 07/18/2009, -2/+2I've been homeless before and can tell you this article was pompous, full of *****, and does nothing to contribute to the cause of moving people off the street into stable housing. People like you are fascinated by anything written by anyone who has even the most tenous claim to being oppressed whether it has merit or not.
- Ezrayan, on 07/19/2009, -0/+0actually volunteered at a soup kitchen and one time this homeless guy accidentally knocked over his milk glass. As I went over to clean it up he blamed it on the aliens.
- DerangedPenguin, on 07/18/2009, -1/+1That's because it freaking rains up there so much, even if you are homeless you can still get a shower ever day.
- Paranor01, on 07/18/2009, -1/+1One is never homeless because no one ever leaves their home, which is themselves.
- iamnotanorange, on 07/18/2009, -3/+3TL:DR
- CardHockman, on 07/18/2009, -2/+2who's going to read 5 pages of ***** about battlestar galactica? buried
- DerangedPenguin, on 07/18/2009, -1/+1I agree MetisRebel does seem to wander a mind that is not quite on track. Then again where would this world be if we all were perfectly "sane" kind of boring like painting every room in your house beige.
- jmantra, on 07/18/2009, -2/+2I hate idiots like you, if only their was some historical model for creating concentration camps to house ignorant ***** like yourself
- inactive, on 07/18/2009, -3/+3Hmmm, I think she's over-analyzing what after all are just a couple of sci-fi shows made for entertainment purposes.
- k3rfuffl3, on 07/18/2009, -3/+2Though I agree with what was said, it was poorly written and is basically someone rambling. Buried because I want to encourage articles that explain my kind of view points well to people who don't share them.
- ZenMojo, on 07/19/2009, -3/+1BSG being called the best sci-fi show ever has less to do with "politics" and more to do with strong character arcs, excellent acting, and boundary-shattering plots. The dogfights and the sex were both equally visceral in a television genre that is generally nerd-tastic and sterile.
And Farscape was always struggling for an audience. BSG's audience was dwindling but it was a relative blockbuster on cable, so much so that NBC tried to hijack it for the broadcast network. - inactive, on 07/18/2009, -3/+1I am somewhat homeless but have access to love of a normal person. Homeless to the future, yet warm and thoughtful. I praise god for what I have many benefits down the road. Many benefits down the road. Many benefits of the scientific tools such as a computer. We are all homeless yet need the love of a normal person. Homeless today are just cardboard holders, yet need the scientific tools we have.
- Anifinity, on 07/18/2009, -2/+0Why not feed flesh eating robots to the homeless?
- IvenomI, on 07/18/2009, -10/+5I'm sick and tired of seeing the word Hobo, Bum or transient. I want to put forth a motion to refer to these individuals by a more endearing name/title:
Freelance Urban Nomads.
Digg me up if you're for it, digg me down if you're not. - inactive, on 07/18/2009, -6/+1I hate homeless people, they need to be kept separate from productive members of society. There should be camps where they could be concentrated away from everbody else. If only their was some historical model for creating concentration camps to house society's undesirables.
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