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- Skuzzlbut, on 05/08/2009, -7/+52So let me get this straight…bang 10 year old boy in the sanctuary, here is a merit badge and a free pass to any destination you want. Hook up with hot legal chick on the beach, GTF OUT OF HERE!!!
Uh..ok..Got it - sousademiami, on 05/07/2009, -3/+32I live down the street from the Archdiocese and down here there's been protests all day at his Parish and the Archdiocese had hired security and closed the parking lot gates. People are pissed! It's time to let Priests get married!
- boshhead, on 05/08/2009, -9/+36Celibacy is an unnatural abomination.
- superdigg, on 05/08/2009, -2/+20"Father Cutie"? really?
- had3l, on 05/08/2009, -1/+16People should mind their own ***** business.
- inactive, on 05/08/2009, -4/+19I'm not catholic and even though I think it's kind of weird, I respect the celibacy vow that priests have to take in the catholic church (SEE PICTURES OF 25 HISTORICAL CATHEDRALS IN EUROPE). It is a lot to ask of their priests and considering how many of them there are it isn't a surprise that some of them don't take it seriously. (CLICK HERE FOR TIME MAGAZINE'S BEST COMEDY TV SHOWS OF ALL TIME)
I respect the people who can make it work and I understand how the catholic church would value it so much but for your run (READ ABOUT AMERICAS BEST MARATHON RACES) of the mill, low level clergyman it seems a bit overboard (NEED A VACATION? SEE THE 20 MOST POPULAR DESTINATIONS TO TAKE A CRUISE.). This is the kind of things that leads to kids (ARE YOU KILLING YOUR KID? TOY RECALLS LISTED HERE) oh for ***** sake, go to hell time.com - twtmc, on 05/08/2009, -3/+17Next thing you know word will get out that he used a condom and there will be riots in the streets!
- JMilton, on 05/08/2009, -5/+17Pics or it didn't happen.
- nonpareil, on 05/08/2009, -2/+13In eastern orthodox Christianity (Greek, Coptic, etc.), priests are allowed to marry and have families as long as they do it before they enter the priesthood. For those who wish to live a celibate life dedicated to God and meditation, there's monasticism (monkhood). This always seemed like a better setup than the Catholics have offered their clergy.
- mirunit, on 05/08/2009, -0/+10Who said he wanted to get married?
- compulsive1, on 05/08/2009, -4/+13You are correct. Priests could marry in Catholic church until the issue of inheritance started to bug the church leaders. So to ensure that all wealth accumulated by priests remains the property of church they decided to forbid the priest marriage. Problem solved. Now the priests can quietly have sex, but they will not be leaving their possessions to widows or children.
- Skuzzlbut, on 05/08/2009, -3/+12Forget about the Gelgameks?!?!?
- lordmike, on 05/08/2009, -0/+9Or a way of life on Digg! ;-)
- Super6, on 05/08/2009, -8/+15I never understood why the Vatican seems to have more tolerance for pedophiles than priests getting it on old school style.
- thscientist1, on 05/08/2009, -4/+9this will make a great porno
- edgarreyes, on 05/08/2009, -3/+8he's gonna have to recite 10 rosemaries and have a gang bang with 175 altar boys to show the Pope he's sorry.
- camilos007, on 05/08/2009, -5/+10Flirt with women, you get reprimanded. Rape little children, they turn a blind eye.
My oh my, the beauty of the Catholic church.
How is it possible that this pre-historic monstrosity of an institution still exists and has devout followers? - charlie6969, on 05/08/2009, -0/+5Dugg for Father What-a-Waste. LOL
- joe7845, on 05/08/2009, -0/+4It's actually Cutié - his last name.
- killtr0city, on 05/08/2009, -2/+6Better an adult woman than a boy
- EricDraven, on 05/08/2009, -0/+3I see what you did there.
- lemur, on 05/08/2009, -0/+3In the Byzantine Rite they can. Isn't he allowed to change rites? I was told a catholic may change rites once in his life (don't know how this relates to clergy).
- cfuse, on 05/08/2009, -2/+5This man just demonstrated that you can be a priest without being a child toucher. They need to give him a medal.
- inactive, on 05/08/2009, -2/+5Actually, Catholic priests are allowed to BE married but not TO marry. If you are a married before you decide to become a priest (eg: a married Baptist minister), the Catholic church is ok with it and allows you to remain married.
- rjan, on 05/08/2009, -1/+4Apparently he did, in an interview where he said he opposed celibacy and wanted to have a normal family. Here's an excerpt from the interview in Spanish:
http://sonfamosos.com/2009/05/06/padre-alberto-con ...
The title reads: Priest Alberto confessed he wanted a family and that he opposes celibacy.
- swissjames, on 05/08/2009, -0/+3Who told you you weren't gay?
- Suricou, on 05/08/2009, -0/+3A little research reveals that one person, and only one, has the authority to chance the catholic church's position on priestly sex and marriage: The pope. I *think* he has the authority to free priests from their vows too - as they are only vowing to abide by the church rule, if the rules change the vow is invalidated.
But it'll be a cold day in hell before the current pope does that. He's already said that he has no intention of changing those rules. - wattersm, on 05/08/2009, -0/+3We ARE Catholic ;)
One Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church. - Dermbrau, on 05/08/2009, -3/+5The article opens with "If only it were the worst thing that a Roman Catholic priest has been caught doing."
How exactly is this wrong?
This article headline could easily read "Man Breaks Contract with Conservative Boss. Gets Fired"
I've been fired for worse. Where's my media attention. - radix2, on 05/09/2009, -0/+2I agree with your point a). I do not agree with b). However, if he wants to pursue another course, he should leave the establishment to which he made his vows.
- obamabarack, on 05/08/2009, -4/+6His real mistake is preaching at a church and taking an oath of celibacy. What man with a penis does that? His act with the girl was just a natural instinct.
I would like to see a news story like "Beach lover playboy goes to church and preaches an imaginary creator'
Where's the disgust there??? - cfuse, on 05/09/2009, -0/+2Are you really suggesting that out of 10,000 priests *one* will be a paedophile?
Either you don't understand crime statistics or you think the clergy are exempt from them. - yoderizer, on 05/08/2009, -0/+2Priests in my diocese are usually paid $20k to $30k. Considering the ratio of parishioners to priests is approaching 1000:1, I'd say a lot more money comes from tithing than the accumulated wealth of priests. On the other hand, raising a family would take a lot of a priest's attention away from his religious duties. But hey, if it makes you feel clever, you keep pushing that inheritance conspiracy.
- yoderizer, on 05/08/2009, -0/+2Let's say for the sake of argument your source is unimpeachable (which I don't) - even the source you provide doesn't argue that priestly celibacy is a simple a matter of preventing inheritance related loss of land. Since Rice's book (which is the single source of your assertion) is one long screed against celibacy, color me unconvinced that the inheritance issue is / was even remotely important. Exactly how much did the Church stand to lose from inheritance?
- compulsive1, on 05/08/2009, -0/+2It was about land. Read up on the history of your church.
http://www.arthurstreet.com/celibacy1993.html#Anch ...
"(...)
David Rice presents a comprehensive historical look at celibacy in his book about resigned priests entitled, Shattered Vows. Rice credits Catholic theologian Edward Schillebeeckx in The Church with a Human Face with asserting that clerical celibacy originated in "a partly pagan notion of ritual purity," as Sipe indicates with the aforementioned examples. At the Council of Nicaea in 325, a proposal to require celibacy for all priests was defeated and at the Council of Trullo in 692, marriage rights for priests were reasserted. (Rice page 161.)
Schillebeeckx says that, first in the fourth century came a law that forbade a married priest from having sexual intercourse the night before celebrating the Eucharist. However, when the Western Church began celebrating a daily mass, abstinence became a permanent factor for married priests.
"At the origin of the law of abstinence, and later the law of celibacy," said Schillebeeckx, "we find an antiquated anthropology and ancient view of sexuality." (ibid) Rice follows with a quotation from St. Jerome which expressed the views of both pagans and Christians at the time that, "All sexual intercourse is impure." (ibid)
Because the resulting implication of a priest living with his wife like a brother led many priests into "deplorable situations," in 1139, the Second Lateran Council forbade the marriage of priests altogether and declared all existing marriages involving priests null and void. (ibid)
"One does not approach the alter and consecrated vessels with soiled hands," had been the pagan view and then became the cornerstone for compulsory Christian celibacy. (ibid) Other not-necessarily concurrent or chronological developments also contributed to the establishment of the celibacy requirement for catholic priests. More bishops began to be chosen from the ranks of monks who had already taken monastic vows of chastity. Another factor was an economic development as the Church began acquiring his own property. According to Rice, there was a real danger that legitimate children of priests could inherit and deprive the Church of its land. At the time, common law prevented illegitimate children from inheriting property.
In reality, the 1139 law did not enact celibacy but merely changed marriage into concubinage. Rice quotes from a document on celibacy prepared by church historian Hubert Jedin for the Second Vatican Council:
"It would be a mistake to imagine that these permanent concubines, especially in the countryside, would have aroused a lot of scandal," said Jedin. "We know of many cases where these `keepers of concubines' possessed the sympathies of their parishioners and were looked upon as good and virtuous pastors." (ibid page 162)
No finer mind than Thomas Aquinas (Summa Theologia II-IIa, 88, 11)had provided stubborn opposition to those who saw celibacy rulings as part of divine law. Thomas contended that the celibacy requirement for Catholic priests was merely Church law that could be reversed by any time by papal or conciliar authority. (MacGregor pages 108-109)" - Stevethegreat, on 05/08/2009, -1/+3Still unnatural though, it's easier (and more practical) to go out and find a girl/woman than crying over it, it's not like the human population is not 50-50...
It seems that Digg is filled with drama queens...
(I know you're joking) - Suricou, on 05/08/2009, -1/+3Linquistic drift. 'Catholic' origionally meant 'united.' It made sense, back when the catholic church *was* almost all of christianity. Today, Christians arn't united any more.
- rjan, on 05/08/2009, -0/+2It happened:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/07/us/07priest.html ... - fury420, on 05/08/2009, -0/+2RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!!!!
- swissjames, on 05/08/2009, -1/+3Wait a minute- that guy is 40?!
- SaladCactusKing, on 05/08/2009, -0/+2TEXT ADVENTURE: UP MADDIECAKES SKIRT
Command: "put hand up plaid skirt*
You reach into the plaid skirt and feel within. It is nice and moist at first, and you continue. You withdraw your index finger and discover mucous, blood, and pieces of Hidden Treasured cereal circa 1994 - zaferk, on 05/08/2009, -0/+2very subtle. i like you.
- Gloogle, on 05/08/2009, -1/+2You and your God, you weak *****! Sorry...
- wattersm, on 05/08/2009, -0/+1@Tophen, we have similarities but the Orthodox are not in communion with Rome. There are some major differences in our theology that most people don't really understand.
- Topheh, on 05/08/2009, -0/+1You know... I was about to bury you for blatantly copying something from another news place, but... then I got it. Nice.
- inactive, on 05/21/2009, -0/+1Celibacy until marriage? Maybe...
Celibacy your whole life? Impossible. - seanayb, on 05/09/2009, -0/+1Thing about the vows is this: he didn't vow just to the church, but to God (and arguably, himself). He would have to discontinue believing in God for such a vow's moral weight to be lifted. Even the rules changing would not invalidate the vow of celibacy, because it was not sworn with an "as long as the rules are what they are now" clause.
- o3man, on 05/08/2009, -2/+3Michael Jackson should become a priest!
- StarDust13, on 05/08/2009, -1/+2Your right, that is exactly the message the church is sending. Fondle away at a little boy and we pay off people then give you your choice of vacation spots till the heat is off so you can do it again and again but NEVER have a "Normal" relationship with a consenting adult or you are banished and flogged to be made an example of.
- Gloogle, on 05/08/2009, -1/+2AY! CALIENTE!
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