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- bffoley, on 04/06/2009, -0/+12They wont decay at that altitude, too cold.
- TheJuggernaut, on 04/06/2009, -0/+12He's blogging his ascent this time (including videos and pics as he gets them) here: http://sherpas.sltrib.com
- Falldog, on 04/06/2009, -1/+10http://digg.com/environment/Climber_to_Break_Recor ...
- krellor, on 04/06/2009, -0/+8Maybe we are operating on different definitions of yuppie. Granted Everest, being the tallest, attracts a lot of people who have more money than skill, hiring people to take them up. But still, everyone gets there on their own 2 feet. It is a tough climb. I don't know that I want to spend the money for it myself, seeing as there are so many other mountains to climb for virtually free. Heck, denali is a heck of a mountain and globally speaking, right in my backyard.
Anyway though, if you want to find yuppie climbers, go to a climbing gym. Once you have 45mph winds and temps hitting -30C on real rock and ice, most "yuppies" are inside a starbucks. - billhanifin, on 04/06/2009, -0/+8I can't imagine doing this even once, so kudos to Apa Sherpa
- martynda, on 04/06/2009, -0/+8RTFA: it's a 40 member expedition. No one is saying they will clean all of it up, but it is a start.
- borez, on 04/06/2009, -0/+7Man that's the first thing that's actually made we want to sign up for twitter.
/still not going to though. - lithera, on 04/06/2009, -0/+7I've seen some recent footage of the upper parts of mt Everest. I'm totally baffled about the mess people leave near the summit.
You'd expect that people who go on such a adventure have some serious respect for nature and wouldn't think of dumping garbage on such a spot.
But alas.. the stereotype is confirmed, rich western bastards who don't give a damn about anything except their own egos. - saltydawkins, on 04/06/2009, -0/+6I always thought the sherpas deserved more press then they ever get. People train for years for a climb like that, many of whom will never be able to repeat the adventure. But the sherpas shlep stuff up and down all the time and never get a bestselling Krakauer novel or a summer blockbuster.
- Goochman, on 04/06/2009, -0/+5As I understand it the bodies are in a place where it would be suicide to attempt and bring them down. They are in the 'death zone' where there is not enough oxygen to support human life. Attempting to carry even one of those bodies would put anyone elses life at serious risk.
- DuckSoup1, on 04/06/2009, -0/+5In the article it mentions clearing out dead bodies and what not.
I watched a documentary before about how some climbers used a dead body to help mark where they were. It was a red jacket or something.
Sounds crazy but it's true. - EricAnderton, on 04/06/2009, -0/+5I'm actually kind of surprised this hasn't come up already. I saw a documentary about scaling Everest one time and those explorers came across stuff left behind from some of the earliest treks up the mountain.
If you pack it in, you pack it out. - SDM187, on 04/06/2009, -1/+6so should you.
- jack222, on 04/06/2009, -0/+5So give someone the Darwin award because they're trying to clean up the environment, or at least clean up the environment that matters to THEM? That's just silly
- byronm, on 04/06/2009, -0/+5Not to mention they're usually the ones free-climbing it to install the ladders & ropes and remove last years equipment. You know, so Beyond the Limit climbers can really just click in and walk to the top.
- ortucis, on 04/06/2009, -0/+4I think people are burrying you both because no one really gives a *****.
- bannor78, on 04/06/2009, -0/+3I love how the history books talk about who was first to climb mount everest. they always seem to forget all the non white people who cover the route 10x over bringing supplies from base camp to base camp. the first guy to climb mount everest climbed the mountain once the sherpa who took his picture made the trip 10x over, what was his name?
- phosphite, on 04/06/2009, -0/+3I thank the Simpsons for my knowledge of Sherpas. :)
Sherpa 1: I foresaw your death last night.
Sherpa 2: Stop saying that!
Homer: Come on, you lazy Sherpas, wake up! We've got a mountain to climb.
Sherpa 1: He shouldn't kick us.
Sherpa 2: His toes will fall off soon
Homer: I'm going to climb this entire mountain on my own!
Sherpa 1: Then technically, shouldn't you go back down and start all over?
Homer: Shut up! You are so fired.
(The Sherpas cartwheel their way down the mountain in delight) - heynow21, on 04/06/2009, -0/+3Since you've read that book I don't see why you'd say this. Some of those Sherpas/climbers can pull it off, like the guy who basically pulled the rich lady up the mountain.
- byronm, on 04/06/2009, -0/+3Believe it or not the water supply that the Sherpa's rely upon starts from snowfall/snowpack on everest. If its full of *****/piss/garbage and anything/everything else that climbers drop or that basecamp just discards then it is hurting their environment.
- ortucis, on 04/06/2009, -1/+3That's right, 40 members and one face of the campaign, the SUPER DUPER SHERPA!
Attention whore.. - DankBuddz, on 04/06/2009, -0/+2Wow, you're dumb.
- DankBuddz, on 04/06/2009, -0/+2I'd love to refute each of these horribly composed arguments, but I'm at work, so you'll have to keep being dumb for a while.
Good luck. - bffoley, on 04/06/2009, -0/+2Not to mention in a few thousand years, future people will dig them up and marvel at how crappy our equipment and bodies were compared to theirs.
- ToddIU03, on 04/06/2009, -0/+2If its too dangerous to carry them down, its too dangerous to be moving them around. Most of them are right below the summit. Very little oxygen.
- martynda, on 04/06/2009, -0/+2Quite literally, push them off the side off the mountain or into a crevasse. Or if they can't do that, move them off the trail a few feet. Those bodies are a very important reminder how dangerous it can be and hopefully scare a few people off who have no business being there in the first place.
- Junkey, on 04/06/2009, -2/+4I wonder if he cleans up all the dead bodies up there?
- prasantc, on 04/06/2009, -0/+2I met this guy at the Kathmandu airport on the day he got back from his record breaking trip to Everest. Nice dude ... he even let me have a picture with him
- DankBuddz, on 04/06/2009, -0/+2"One man cannot make a difference in this case."
Your wonderful, spirited logic should be taught at schools everywhere. - haydesigner, on 04/06/2009, -0/+2@foucaultsvac: "The mountain nor the environment does not care and is not affected by some garbage strewn about, especially in a place uninhabited by humans."
While not the most ignorant thing I've read today, it does pretty well. - byronm, on 04/06/2009, -0/+2There have been a few recent expeditions very successful at retrieving bodies of fallen climbers and they have broken the idea of it being to risky in and of itself. As far as Everest is concerned helping a fellow climber is risky to your own success of summitting. Of course there are times when nothing can be done, i won't lie. However the only serious risk in everest expeditions to remove bodies or prevent them from occuring in the first place is the fact most people would rather let someone die then stop them from reaching the summit and many climbers are so gungho that they too would rather die than to realize it isn't going to happen.
- brownsin07, on 04/06/2009, -0/+2I just finished reading that book pretty amazing what it takes to get up Everest. The 2nd half is so tragic it was tough to get through.
- friday1970, on 04/06/2009, -0/+2You were doing oh, so well with "I think it's a cool idea that he's wanting to go up there and clean up the trash"
I'm in the same boat with the "over greening" of the world. But, I'll give Apa Sherpa my utmost respect for wanting to clean up Everest. I've been on a number of great American peaks, and every time I see non-biodegradable trash along the trail, I'll stop to pick it up.
I've seen footage of Everest, and the amounts of garbage up there is horrible. Climbers need to take down everything they take up, or don't go at all. - byronm, on 04/06/2009, -0/+2That body has since been removed. I believe it was Markus Kronthalurs (or something like that), the family had an expedition go up last year to prove it wasn't as impossible as people had said to remove the bodies.
Some families want to let people R.I.P up there but thats sort of hard to accomplish with people climbing all around them. - UNDERSTAR, on 04/06/2009, -0/+2I aint reading through all that *****.
- Smokeydabear, on 04/06/2009, -0/+2Dude, read "Into Thin Air" and you'll understand that people that climb that massive ***** don't even have the energy in many cases to haul their own asses down the mountain, much less ***** trash that has accumulated over the past century. This applies even to the Sherpa people. Sure they have better climbing skills because of their genetic attributes, but they are also prone to ***** dying up there. If anything Everest's trash should be kept there as a reminder to present and future generations of the selfish indulgence of mountain climbers.* The amount of money that is wasted and the amount of resources that are spend to climb the mountain is criminal.
* Everest climbers, not all mountain climbers. In many cases climbers are very "green" and don't leave anything behind, not even a candy wrapper. Everest is different. Countries that border the mountain make thousands of dollars off inexperienced climbers by selling permits. Guides promise to put people on the mountain who have no climbing experience. These people leave tons of *****, mostly spend aluminum gas bottles, at the summit, along with human waste and trash. It is sad actually. - inactive, on 04/07/2009, -0/+1Brown skinned Sherpa cleaning and bringing down the trash of White CEO's in a mid life crises and wealthy jet setting Triathlon climbers ....after first hauling their oxygen tanks, food, tents, laptops and satellite dishes and carrying their frostbitten asses down off the mountain.
Watching then getting drunk and buying their pray flags like frat boys marauding through the streets of Kathmandu
Now a Sherpa going postal on Everest would really be news - puter, on 04/08/2009, -0/+1ya, because it's clearly not obnoxious to see the same article posted over and over again each day.
- sjones, on 04/06/2009, -1/+2Yes, I would imagine the dead people are extremely annoyed by all the traffic.
- phrenzy, on 04/06/2009, -1/+2Sherpa Sherpa Bak Allah
- CRCulver, on 04/06/2009, -3/+4Bodies naturally decay. Oxygen tanks don't.
- macmcraeart, on 04/06/2009, -1/+2they should track down the knuckleheads who leave their garbage up there and fine the ***** out of them.
- trafficlight, on 04/06/2009, -2/+2Duplication station.
- everythingnepal, on 05/25/2009, -0/+0how about our blog everythingnepal.blogsite.com
- catdawg555, on 04/06/2009, -1/+1Hillary Clinton?
- Fun4Two, on 04/06/2009, -2/+2Damn climbers littering their dead bodies on our mountain.
- sonicwill, on 04/06/2009, -3/+2I don't usually realize global warming progress.
But in fact,There is people who is suffered envionmental change by my luxurious living style. - puter, on 04/06/2009, -3/+1People should not be burying you.
I think this is the third time in 3 days this article has been on the front page.
We get the point, stop posting duplicates people. - nosliwm, on 04/06/2009, -3/+1Moving any of those dead bodies would be like suicide. People that high up are totally debilitated by the lack of oxygen, even if they've got a tank on their back. Plus, they're brain is basically starved which makes them like drunk people who can't think straight and have no coordination.
PS, read "Into Thin Air." Its really, really good. - foucaultsvac, on 04/06/2009, -6/+3A noble but ineffective idea. The mountain nor the environment does not care and is not affected by some garbage strewn about, especially in a place uninhabited by humans.
If he dies he should get the Darwin award. -
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