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- AtheismFTW, on 02/19/2008, -19/+1205This was not suicide.
- Servebot, on 02/19/2008, -20/+719***** $cientology.
- forgeflow, on 02/19/2008, -5/+644How convenient for Scientology. I am sure the Clearwater police will do a thorough job of investigating this. After all, running a hose from your car into your house is a very common method of suicide.
- Drkgodess, on 02/19/2008, -6/+449To Anonymous: Be careful out there guys, these people are insane.
- yelnatz, on 02/19/2008, -16/+402nope, not a suicide at all.
- JMWarden, on 02/19/2008, -6/+357I guess nobody would consider it odd to see a hose running from a running vehicle into the window of a house. Are you fukken kidding me?!?
- AshamedAmerican, on 02/19/2008, -73/+390I hate to resort to primitive thinking and methods here, but I think it's about time somebody stepped up and started killing some of these high-ranking scientologist *****.
Let's start with that Tom ***** (not Cruise, the other one who harassed the BBC guy). Sure, go ahead and make it look like a half-assed suicide or accident while you're at it too.
"Well apparently he fell down an elevator shaft and onto some bullets." - aliengoods, on 02/19/2008, -4/+315Apparent suicide, which means the police aren't going to investigate for more than 5 minutes.
- Drkgodess, on 02/19/2008, -8/+260dugg for "and onto some bullets"
- fixty, on 02/19/2008, -2/+242You can see Shawn in the BBC documentary "Scientology and Me" starting about 50 seconds into this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGecZssWc5M
You fought the good fight. RIP. - DeathJux, on 02/19/2008, -0/+194I just read through some of the bios on http://whyaretheydead.net , and apparently a whole lot of Scientology-related deaths ("suicides") are at the hands of exhaust hoses into windows. Interesting.
- reuscel, on 02/19/2008, -3/+147Given Scientology's "fair game" policy, how could anyone not be suspicious of this "suicide"?
- zerodaysoon, on 02/19/2008, -6/+145"They hired a private investigator to look into Lonsdale's background and found two misdemeanor convictions for lewd and lascivious conduct, both related to public sex with men, in 1999 and 2000."
who cares!! Scientology has done far worse! i guess double standards dont apply to them, f**k scientology!! - centran, on 02/19/2008, -4/+143what makes you think that? Lot's of people run a hose from their car to their house. That is much more simpler then running the hose straight into the car and sitting in the car.
I mean, who would not want to wait for half a day for the house to fill with fumes instead of half an hour? - sweetleaf10, on 02/19/2008, -4/+130This is just how Hubbard's gay some died. Either they are ritualistic (probably) or this is a set up (unlikely). http://www.whyaretheydead.net/Quentin_Hubbard_22/i ...
- Drkgodess, on 02/19/2008, -2/+113Scientology pays off-duty police $45.00 AN HOUR to work security for them. So the cops in Clearwater wouldn't want to upset their cash cow.
- mllawso, on 02/19/2008, -1/+110*cough*
police@myclearwater.com
(727) 562-4080
and
http://www.clearwaterpolice.org/contact.asp - ZenMojo, on 02/19/2008, -3/+106He killed himself through carbon monoxide poisoning by running a hose from his car into the window of his house? Oooookay....
- GhostyBoy, on 02/19/2008, -6/+108R.I.P. Shawn.
What are they trying to make an example of him and scare us?
***** you cult. I ain't afraid of you. - inactive, on 02/19/2008, -6/+104Suicide more like murder.
- inactive, on 02/19/2008, -7/+95How conveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeenient.
- inactive, on 02/19/2008, -7/+93$cientologists killed him. Its as plain as day.
- wrillo, on 02/19/2008, -3/+88its all fun and games until someone's server gets DOSed
then people start to die - babar77, on 02/19/2008, -2/+84of course not.. Clearwater Police are on the take. They have been currupted and infiltrated by Scientology, and so have all the town's officials.
- absentmindedjwc, on 02/19/2008, -10/+88flood the FBI tips form (https://tips.fbi.gov/)
if enough people send it in, they might take a look... you cannot trust clearwater police in this matter... they are far too bias... - LiquidIse, on 02/19/2008, -1/+73I fail to see how the hose doesnt classify as "foul play"
- Ellipsys, on 02/19/2008, -4/+76"Apparent suicide" my ass. I'm sure some investigators were on the Clearwater payroll. He piped exhaust from his car into his HOUSE to kill himself? Why wouldn't he have taken the easier, quicker, and less likely to be "stopped" route of running a hose inside his car window instead, or simply turning his car on inside his garage. That by itself is a giant red flag that warrants a full investigation.
- ramo13, on 02/19/2008, -7/+68Bastards !
- yohnstoppable, on 02/19/2008, -1/+62To replace the "t", and to make the story not easily searchable for those wanting to bury scientology stories I would suppose.
- toxicityj, on 02/19/2008, -8/+51I understand the $, but whats with the +?
- ohiomama, on 02/19/2008, -2/+44i think the two men were john travolta and tom cruise.
- Tiak, on 02/19/2008, -6/+47spamming the FBI is not a good idea...
- arw371, on 02/19/2008, -1/+41Unfortunately, this happened in clearwater (the city owned and operated by CoS).
There will be no investigation. - inactive, on 02/19/2008, -6/+45I call shenanigans.
- notque, on 02/19/2008, -0/+39"Clearwater police spokeswoman Elizabeth Daly-Watts"
Sci?
http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name ...
http://forums.enturbulation.org/viewtopic.php?f=12 ... - thefandango, on 02/19/2008, -2/+41The court of public opinion does not have such priviliges as "innocent until proven guilty".
Save that for the courts. I'm crying foul play. - dudefather, on 02/19/2008, -9/+47this was no boating accident!
- moush, on 02/19/2008, -1/+38Seems like Scientology is telling Anonymous that their protests meant nothing. Make an impact.
- Klowner, on 02/19/2008, -6/+43darn right, his thetans made him do it
- maeon3, on 02/19/2008, -4/+41Lets get the facts people, lets make his life worth something.
- aliengoods, on 02/19/2008, -9/+46It was cold and he couldn't afford a high heating bill. It can happen to the best of us.
- noahhoward, on 02/19/2008, -1/+37How many people in the Clearwater police are Scientologists or prospective converts I wonder. I would expect prints on the window and hose wouldn't you?
- notque, on 02/19/2008, -0/+36"Summary: the police spokeswoman in this case (Elizabeth Daly-Watts) is married to a known and published Scino author (Carl Watts), and her impartiality in this is obviously therefore in question. She's also taken some courses, but nowhere near the level of her husband (who is, if I'm reading this right, a Clear)."
- inactive, on 02/19/2008, -0/+35Well, and Lonsdale has long maintained that the Clearwater police are in the back pocket of Scientology, so it isn't like they're going to be all that eager to dig into an alternative cause of death for the guy who's been claiming that their department is corrupt for years.
- starkruzr, on 02/19/2008, -1/+36The CoS uses a cross as one of their emblems in order to make Christians think they're pro-Jesus.
- inactive, on 02/20/2008, -0/+35Something sounds very similar to this:
Hubbard's son Quentin also died under mysterious circumstances in 1976. He had disappeared from his home in Clearwater, Florida, and was found unconscious in a car next to the Las Vegas airport. (Coroner's report is attached as Exhibit U. He died unidentified, as a "John Doe.") The engine of the car was on and a hose ran from the exhaust pipe (although it appeared to have fallen off when the authorities arrived) to the window, making it appear to be a suicide. But, like his father's death, there were a number of nagging questions . For example, Quentin was found unkempt with a beard stubble, a state that no one who knew Quentin could accept. (He was ultra-meticulous in his appearance.) Or that the license plate of the car was missing and found under a rock some distance away. Or that his wallet was gone, making identification impossible. Or that a near-empty bottle of liquor was found, as if he had been drinking, when Quentin did not. Or that there were needle marks on his arms, when he did not use drugs
Affidavit of Robert Vaughn Young
9 Mar 1994. - JoshuaH, on 02/19/2008, -0/+35It seems they've used carbon monoxide before..
- Drkgodess, on 02/19/2008, -1/+34I wish people would read the article before posting comments. He ran a hose from his car, sealed the connection, then ran it to his house, sealed the window, then went and started the car and then went back inside to go to sleep and die? I'm sorry that's ***** crazy. You could easily run a hose into your car and kill yourself that way. Why would anyone go through the trouble of doing it hte way described in the article. CRITICAL THINKING = GOOD.
- dudefather, on 02/19/2008, -4/+36who needs Columbo when you have Digg?
- vegask, on 02/19/2008, -1/+32This will be one more for whyaretheydead.net
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