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- AlexPod, on 10/10/2007, -0/+93Here comes the fear train. Choo choooo!
- COLDshiver, on 10/10/2007, -0/+90"He was murdered, it wasn't suicide, he was murdered"
So, I guess according to the lady, his son was killed by a plant, more specifically a bunch of leaves - diizy, on 10/10/2007, -5/+80Its not dangerous, I've done it a few times, and I suggest people give it a try. It's nice to see what the second, or fourth dimention looks like from time to time.
I wonder how long it took them to find that one kid who killed himself cause of it - the only injury I've ever heard of due to the drug. Weak ass report CNN - none of the kids in the videos got hurt because of it. - SickFinga, on 10/10/2007, -0/+72Just because marijuana is illegal, doesn't mean it's dangerous.
Another DEA agent. - InfamousX241, on 10/10/2007, -1/+51"Much like LSD"
Right-o, CNN. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+48It has nicknames like Divine Sage? That's what it means, asshats. Salvia isn't going to kill anyone.
- e3boy, on 10/10/2007, -1/+42so following the logic, if i kill myself after getting depressed from watching CNN, it should be banned too!
- hambend, on 10/10/2007, -0/+41I wish I could bury CNN stories in real life.
- darkfate, on 10/10/2007, -2/+42They had that stupid mother in there. All the parents always say their kid was a model child until something happened. If you're taking drugs, you aren't a model child! The drug probably helped him "open up" and he realized stuff and said screw it.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+37Ahh ***** now they will make this against the law because of the salvia kid. Thanks for destroying everyones fun saliva youtube kid!
- flip, on 10/10/2007, -2/+30CORRECTION, He didn't die because of salvia div. He killed himself inside a camping tent in his fathers garage. It was a intentional suicide on the boy's part. There was no drug paraphernalia with him or in his things at his fathers house. The story infers that the cause was *somehow* caused by salvia use. IT WASN'T. The mother read his diaries after his death and decided to blame his experiments with the plant VS HERSELF for abandoning her son. The divorced parents are simply looking for a way to take the blame off themselves and place it on something else. For crying our loud, they left the kid to be raised in catholic boarding schools and then shipped him off on "vacations" for the summer breaks! Look at that video, did that kid seem happy in those pictures they showed?
No way.
I have always disagreed with bozo's posting salvia smoking online
this is the kind of attention that I've always warned others about... Illegalization isn't that far off. - letusburnone, on 10/10/2007, -0/+28salvia messes you up... for about 30 seconds.
I wouldn't recommend it behind the wheel though, that would be bad news - flip, on 10/10/2007, -0/+27I've looked into this story when it broke last year
there's lots of information that wasn't making it into the reports.
Firstly, the parents are divorced and well connected.
They have sent this child of theirs to live in a year round catholic boarding school.
when the kid was home on sumer break they again shipped him off to europe or south america
the pictures of him are always alone and not smiling... that tells loads about his family life right there.
His experiments with salvia were entirely at this boarding school. nothing was found with him or in his belongings at his suicide.
He actually killed himself inside a camping tent erected in his fathers garage.
symbolically that also says quite a bit about his perceptions of how much he felt at home with his "family".
His decision to kill himself in that way was a message against his parents .. sadly one that they refuse to accept.
The mother went though his diaries and discovered a few passages regarding his salvia experiments and decided that this was the cause of his killing himself vs accepting any responsibility.
When any reasonable person could see that their only child was abandoned by the parents in large part
and that his life was not very nice at all -even with the money and being packed off elsewhere.
Sadly i also blame all the youtube bozo's that have posted video's of themselves acting stupidly.
not to mention the greedy bastards that have turned the plant extracts into a over the counter item vs the selling of live plants.
more than anything else they've set the platform for illegalization by offering a powerful tool to people without any instruction or REAL guidance. - NikoKun, on 10/10/2007, -0/+25CNN... you *****... You can't outlaw something because one parent is stupid and wants to blame their problems on that something.
One person's mistakes do not give the government the right to protect us all against something most can use safely... ESPECIALLY when that something, is what we use on our selves. What we do to ourselves is OUR business, not the government's.
They know nothing of salvia, they don't know what it is, or what it does... But they are afraid of it... so sure enough, it will get criminally banned... -_- morons.
(note: salvia sucks, it's not addictive, not harmful... and definitely not something anyone would want to do more than once or twice... definitely not regularly.) - norman619, on 10/10/2007, -0/+22LOL!!!! My god this woman is ***** clueless. That last photos of her son had him wearing a shirt with a coffin on it. But no he wasn't fascinated by death... No way.... She knew her son.... These are the words of parents to choose to ignore teh warning signs that their is something wrong with their kid.
- trippinlikegod, on 10/10/2007, -0/+22It's always been legal in the United States.
- nar3024, on 10/10/2007, -0/+22I'll have to buy some salvia before they make it illegal.
- veggiemoore, on 10/10/2007, -1/+19Yeah, it's not the drug's fault he couldn't cope. It was probably the pressure of being a "model" kid.
- jackal42, on 10/10/2007, -0/+17this is so ***** slanted. go-msm
- RanIntoTheDevil, on 10/10/2007, -0/+15He was also on a prescription acne medicine which is known to cause depression and thoughts of suicide. I am sure the salvia didn't help but it sure as hell did not cause him to kill himself.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brett_Chidester - flip, on 10/10/2007, -0/+15Look into the story. his experiments with the plant were at the boarding school and not at his fathers house.
there was no plant or drugs in his system when he killed himself.
the story incorrectly infers that salvia had something to do with it based upon a out of context excerpt that the mother found after reading his diaries. She's blaming the plant vs accepting her responsibility for abandoning her child to year round boarding schools. - NikoKun, on 10/10/2007, -0/+14Exactly...
Legality isn't a good enough reason to believe Marijuana (or salvia for that matter) is harmful. Slavery was once legal and sodomy was once illegal; legality is a horrid barometer for morality. Fears of something being harmful with nothing but scares to back it up, is not enough to make something illegal.
In reality, Marijuana and salvia are a lot less harmful to people, than Alcohol or Tobacco. And that alone should be the reason both should be legal.
America, STOP BANNING THINGS... the slippery slope is when we start banning things so one group can't use it... to protect against the fears of another group - themastersb, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13It's a crime that CNN doesn't report on important things
- minoss, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13***** you lady of that kid who killed himself. ***** you. You claim your son, who is under your care and parenting, was murdered because he was smoking something and committed suicide. I'm sorry the government didn't babysit your kid enough for you. Maybe you should think about what you could have done better and place just a little of that blame on the person alive most deserving of it, yourself.
- LaGStAr, on 10/10/2007, -2/+15"From You Tube"
- NikoKun, on 10/10/2007, -1/+14Looks like CNN needs to be educating... Salvia is not like any thing, they can't compare it... And besides that, it's way more harmless than Alcohol and Tobacco.
How come the more harmful things are legal? yet the harmless stuff is illegal just because of it's effects? - IRoaChI, on 10/10/2007, -2/+14It's been legal here in NZ for years. The sell it at any store you get party pills and other 'legal' highs.
- Dested, on 10/10/2007, -0/+12Except it only lasts for 10 minutes instead of 12 hours. Salvia has nothing on the god we call LSD.
- trippinlikegod, on 10/10/2007, -0/+12Then you've never smoked real salvia properly. Salvia D. rips apart the fabric of reality with one bong hit if you smoke 5X or better extract.
- ForTheSteel, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12more people die a year because of ball point pen accidents, should those be illegal?
- norman619, on 10/10/2007, -2/+13There is research that may point to some drugs actually opening up our senses allowing us to perceive things our sense usually aren't open to pick up.
- bjohns, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11Salvia Divinorum.
- sp1keNARF, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11i don't know what you smoked dude, but when i smoked it, it felt like i broke my brain for about 20 seconds or so - and by that i mean i hallucinated like everything i saw was two dimensional and a tan and gray. also, i couldn't move, or talk, and i couldn't hear for about 15 of the 20 seconds
- kjm16, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10I'd kill myself if that was my mom.
- panic, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11I've smoked it a few times. It's pretty harmless for the most part. It can make you trip out for a few minutes but it's pretty short-term (in comparison to things like acid). Out of the 10 or 15 times I smoked it, I only tripped off it once pretty hard, most times it just got me kinda high. I definitely prefer smoking other unmentionables over that, but it's an interesting experience worth trying. And since it's legal (or at least not illegal), you can head down to your favorite smoke shop and pick some up. One recommendation, I wouldn't do it with people around. Everytime me and my friends tried getting "f'ed up" off it, it never really worked for me. It worked when I was relaxed by myself and had the lights out. There were some LEDs on my stereo that were glowing in the darkness and that was tripping me out. I thought I was being abducted by aliens. I was sitting on my bed and I swear the top of the bed was raising up. I was holding on to the sheets because I didn't want to fall off the end of the bed and I kept looking down and seeing my legs further and further off the bed, either I was pushing myself down without knowing it, hallucinating the whole thing, or... maybe my bed was raising up! :)
- fr0ng, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11LoL at that dumb bitch mother who blames her lack of good parenting on a drug. I've tried Salvia, and had a similar experience as what was described in that suicide letter..that our existance is meaningless etc...but I'm not going to kill myself because of it. Just have a new and different perspective on things.
- bjohns, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8I said the same thing, then I saw it was illegal in Oklahoma.
This is one of the most ignorant states. They just legalized tattoos here... - ozid, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8While I don't think that it should be illegal... I don't know why it isn't, strictly by the DEA's track record, i mean.
- zweben, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Money.
- Revo75, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9I tried Salvia its completely different from mushrooms both give you spiritual trips. Its pretty crazy I recommend everyone try it once, its amazing what a spiritual trip could do to your well being =) and ***** CNN for its anti-drug bias
- inputoutput, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8And here comes illegality in 3....2....1
- elsimer, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8The Latin name Salvia divinorum literally translates to "sage of the seers". The genus name Salvia is derived from the Latin salvare, meaning "to heal" or "to save".
As an FYI. Thank you wikipedia. - NikoKun, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8yeah... she's trying to pass blame off from herself... onto an innocent substance... and CNN is glad to help her... -_-
It was her fault her kid died... she just doesn't want to own up to that... - niardica, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7dugg because of your username.. lol.
- richmessenger, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7I'm sorry for the lady's loss, however her son's death is more likely her fault than salvia's. It is a nonaddictive drug that produces hallucinogenic affects for a very short time (15 minutes tops depending on potency). It seems like for every child that commits suicide in this country, there is a set of parents that point the blame elsewhere. It's just not music or illegal drugs in this case.
- Azdak, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7ROFL, that was practically a commercial for the stuff.
- zachlutz, on 10/10/2007, -7/+13Salvia is a joke - headache, bad taste and not much more. And yet we have CNN leading the way towards its criminalization.
- veter, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Speak for yourself. High enough doses of LSD can be incredibly warping, and considering it lasts about 11 hours longer, a lot can be said for LSD. They are different trips, but it could easily be said that no amount of salvia can prepare you for a high dose LSD trip.
- FallenWings, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Do NOT do Salvia alone your first time. Some trips cause you to become extremely agitated... you feel like you need get up and go somewhere, anywhere, right ***** now. Have a sitter there to reassure you if you get spooked or block the door if you try to escape into 4 lanes of traffic.
- InitialDMP5, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7just because something is illegal doesn't mean people will stop doing it.
Our government needs to start making things LEGAL. If the temptation of doing something that is taboo and considered wrong is taken away, LESS people will try it.
Alcohol needs to be made illegal before this. More dummies do stupid things under the influence of beer or hard liquor than anything else. And cigarettes sure aren't getting banned...
That lady needs to stop blaming and start accepting that she lost her son because she wasn't involved in his life enough. He looked like a total stoner in that pic they showed. -
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