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- tidu, on 10/11/2007, -7/+119I thought it was a great and honorable choice Ron Paul made when Jon Stewart kept asking if he knew anyone in particular he wouldn't want to be next to, and instead of bad-mouthing Rudy (more than he has already), he just said he disagrees with a lot of their policies. Great man.
- tedez, on 10/11/2007, -32/+120No one should be surprised. Keep your eyes open, stay awake. Breathe normally. The Doctor is on his way.
Ron Paul for President 2008 - SinkToTheBeat, on 10/11/2007, -22/+105Healthcare is so expensive right now because of government intervention.
- SinkToTheBeat, on 10/11/2007, -6/+85You do realize it's the federal government that lets the RIAA and the MPAA harass people currently. If a few laws were repealed, they would have no basis for the things they do.
- psg188, on 10/11/2007, -11/+82I still can't wrap my head around Digg endorsing a republican, when all this Ron Paul hype started I thought to myself..
"Digg raving about a republican? wtf?"
I checked him out and now Ron Paul '08! - GoatBn, on 10/11/2007, -5/+64***** blogspam...if you insist on having blogspam, you should make sure that I can actually load the page. It took me 10 minutes before the server responded to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qrwy3mR3Mo - mstebbins, on 10/11/2007, -11/+64"Hey Tommy Thompson! What's your middle name, Tom?" "I'll have these on cards for you, in case you want to use them in the debate." LOL
- 89vision, on 10/11/2007, -8/+56Wow I never thought my favorite candidate so far would be a republican
- tidu, on 10/11/2007, -5/+52Anyone else see Paul's face after he said that he suggested a new idea: the constitution? He looked so silly (in a good way) sticking his tongue out a little :D
- geezlouis, on 10/11/2007, -10/+56Average Joe Voter usually considers two things when he/she goes to the polls:
Do I have a job?
Do I make enough to provide for myself/family?
Most people don't even think twice about what this nation was founded on because they [digg me down if I'm stretching] just take what their given and their rights for granted. They are not seeing their rights slowly being eroded, they only care about the bottom dollar. If Paul gets elected, he's going to make some MAJOR changes, all good, and all in line with the constitution and what the founders of this nation intended this place to be, but it will drastically go against the status quo/biblebelt/middleamericans worrying about health care and paying lower taxes. Average JV is in the tax system looking in, he/she's in the health care system looking in, they don't understand the root of the problem, they just want to be told that there are ideas which can be applied to the current system, to help fix it, rather than told that a major change needs to happen in order to fix it. And as sad as it is, no one wants to cop up to the latter, even sometimes knowing that the change will rid us of most of our problems in finance, and the increasing power of our unchecked government.
Ron Paul 2008 - R34C7, on 10/11/2007, -2/+47He has stated time and time again that he may believe in Christian ideals, but that the constitution does not grant him power to regulate those ideals...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -10/+48ron paul or global nazi germany, what do YOU choose?
- polyGone, on 10/11/2007, -3/+38I am an atheist. No.
His policy is states rights, not a large federal government. It is for the people to decide, not the federal government. Every candidate hold some sort of religious viewpoint. I agree with enough of his policies to vote for him. - Buttercup, on 10/11/2007, -6/+37how to: Become a Dictator!
Step 1. Get the citizens scared. (oh teh noes, the terrorists are coming!)
Step 2. Take power in order to "protect" them (its "patriotic!")
Step 3. kill everyone, except those who kiss your ass. (good lap-boy... sit! you want a treat, mr. bush? yummy yummy!)
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Step 4. kill even those who kiss your ass. - cr4ft, on 10/11/2007, -7/+36John Stewart: Here are some zingers, with Guiliani, just ask him "Hey, if you love the war on terror so much why dont you marry it"
LMFAO - tidu, on 10/11/2007, -13/+41...because more opinions than yours exist. Just because a ton of people on here like him doesn't mean the whole world does. There are people who believe government-run programs are important, so they'd definately disagree with Paul. There are people that favor security over some of their freedoms. They're not insane, thye just have differing opinions.
- SinkToTheBeat, on 10/11/2007, -14/+42"Hey Rudy, if you love the war on terrorism so much, why don't you marry it?"
- wild, on 10/11/2007, -4/+28"i attended a public high school where under two thirds of the senior class graduated. show me a private school where that happens, and show me a home schooler who isn't at least a grade level above a public schooler in reading and writing."
You really think the parents of those two thirds of kids that failed can afford private school? - DruSam, on 10/11/2007, -4/+27Ah, well buddy, we have this thing in our Constitution that has something to do with freedom to worship. Ever heard of something like that? Even our Presidents get this freedom. And guess what? Ron Paul is trying to protect our constitutional right to believe or not believe.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -5/+25I really hope they give Ron Paul an equal amount of speaking time in the upcoming debate, or at least proportionally more than they gave Mike Gravel the recent Democratic debate. Although he had some of the worst questions (they asked him if he was for implementing mandatory military service; he was one of the primary proponents responsible for repealing the draft for crying out loud! That was just pure ignorance on Blitzer's part), he still was able to make some great responses. It's unfortunate that these debates seem to be afraid of those that dare to "rock the boat" and say what's really on their minds and neglect them. I hope that's not the case in today's debate...
- greysun, on 10/11/2007, -1/+21"Anyone else see Paul's face after he said that he suggested a new idea: the constitution? He looked so silly (in a good way) sticking his tongue out a little :D"
I thought this was an excellent indication that he isn't some slick Willy tossing out what you want to hear, he's just an accomplished version of your average good citizen. He's getting my vote. - ejmpower, on 10/11/2007, -4/+24So let me get this straight and please correct me if I'm wrong but Ron Paul wants to privatize Medicare?
I just want to get my facts straight before I make my decision of my vote. - CrazyMike, on 10/11/2007, -6/+25Invisible friend? How could you miss Cheney's fat ass.
- dmegivern, on 10/11/2007, -9/+27Okay, I will tolerate some comments as just different points of view, but it is so stupid to say that health care is expensive due to government. If that is true, why doesn't it happen to other countries when their governments intervene? I know about two things with expertise--health care and poverty. Check my resume--I have a Ph.D. and numerous publications in this area. It is just WRONG to believe that government is making prices for health care go up. Name even one country with private health care where people who are not rich are covered.
The market DOES NOT work for health care. You need an educated, free consumer to regulate prices in the market. You can't pick the best hospital if you are unconscious with a heart attack--they just take you to the closest one. All the rules that apply to goods and services in the free market do not fit health care or mental health care or any other services where the recipients are not informed consumers. Read some serious academics. Harvard has Steffi Woolhandler. - detuneyourradio, on 10/11/2007, -13/+29you've successfully used those with satisfaction? and you are telling me that those services are better than the alternatives?
i attended a public high school where under two thirds of the senior class graduated. show me a private school where that happens, and show me a home schooler who isn't at least a grade level above a public schooler in reading and writing.
FEMA? yeah, they were entirely successful in keeping the red cross and thousands of volunteers from getting into new orleans to help after the hurricane.
and don't forget, for every one of those programs you used, they were paid for by stealing money from someone else. what if i don't want medicare? still have to pay for it. what if i want to home school? you still have to pay for public school. - DigiRaven, on 10/11/2007, -1/+16@psg188
You know I'm republican and I voted for al gore and john kerry. It really doesn't matter what party you are on. And it really doesn't matter which party you vote for. If someone up there that sounds the best just vote. Ron Paul for 08. I cant stand the current republicans. Not sure what they really are. roaches? - CannedMango, on 10/11/2007, -1/+16@ejmpower
"So let me get this straight and please correct me if I'm wrong but Ron Paul wants to privatize Medicare? "
yes, he does. Ron Paul is very conservative fiscally and very liberal socially. So essentially what he wants is a country where everyone is as free as possible with as little government as possible. This will excite many people who feel the government infringes too much in their lives and scare a lot of people who enjoy the feeling of the safetly net that government programs provide. I can't say that I exactly agree with him on his stances for private medicare... but keep in mind that he would also remove all of the special interest laws that give big corporations and pharmaceutical companies the ability to drive up costs and overcharge the consumer. Essentially he wants a true, free-market system. Which means people will be able to import generic drugs at lower costs and make it affordable. Again, I don't agree with all of policies, but his disdain for big-government and corruption (and war!) is enough to get my support. - labmouse42, on 10/11/2007, -4/+19It was the same with me.
When I told my fiance' I was going to vote in the republican primary, she asked me if I was feeling OK.
Now shes going to the polls with me! - SinkToTheBeat, on 10/11/2007, -1/+15@ejmpower
He doesn't just want to drop it, but he has hopes of weaning people off of it.
Watch this http://youtube.com/watch?v=wVnZERC9OFs he talks about using the money we'd saved from not fighting wars over seas to pay off debts and to help those who are dependant on welfare programs. - kaelyiesta, on 10/11/2007, -4/+17@dmegivern,
You seem to conclude any social contract and libertarianism is mutually exclusive. This is wrong. Libertarianism IS a social contract. Like any other set of rules a group of people agree on, thus giving up complete 'freedom of nature', libertarianism also has a set of rules to follow that take away certain freedoms. Those rules just happen to be less demanding than most other social contracts. You seem somewhat familiar with the term so I won't belittle you by suggesting some more reading by Hobbes, Locke or other social contractarian theorists, but I just wanted to point out your error.
So really, your problem is with the extent of the libertarian social contract. It doesn't take away enough freedoms(taxing everyone) to provide you with the social benefits(giving you money from those taxes when individual patient cant afford bill) you crave. If I've misrepresented your argument digg me down. In any case it is an interesting point. - Culled, on 10/11/2007, -1/+12Here's the iFilm link since this will get pulled from youtube any minute now.
http://www.ifilm.com/video/2861933/show/17676 - typo180, on 10/11/2007, -2/+13@DSG188
It sounds weird when you say it, but I think what people around here are looking for isn't necessarily the Democratic party. Maybe it's more of a progressive attitude or, as Stuart said, integrity. And I'm all for shrinking the government at this point. - ringworm, on 10/11/2007, -4/+14The reason that I don't think the free-market would work for health care is because health care costs the least amount when it is done pro-actively. This means regular physicals and checkups save money in the long run, but can be a heavy burden in the short term. Private companies are always looking at the bottom line, in fact if they are a publicly-traded company it is illegal for the company to do otherwise. Short term gains are the single most important thing to a for-profit organization. Healthcare needs to be the exact opposite, it needs to be constantly looking for ways to serve the largest number of people and help them spend the least amount of money.
- jmpeagle, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10healthcare costs are through the roof because of drugs patent enforcements by the government making it easy for firms to charge 1000% markup or more on drugs. Imagine if we allowed competition...drug prices would fall by over 90% and total healthcare costs would fall by over 50%. All Ron Paul is asking for is that competition be allowed instead of BANNED by the government.
- geezlouis, on 10/11/2007, -9/+19post above was @antineocon
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@tidu
Do you feel any more "secure" now than you did before 2001? Truthfully? To tell me that you feel more secure is to blatantly lie to us and yourself. Do you live in a big city? I feel less secure now than I did before 2001. Hell I feel less secure because who knows when the next 'terror' attack is going to be, and who knows if our government is even going to do anything about it, or hell if they're even part of it, anymore!
Also, have you looked at the way government run programs are working? They're *****. Take any micro economics class with a professor who has half a brain and he'll tell you that the private market is the best way to stimulate benefits for an end consumer of a good or service. Government regulation is good, but government run programs SUCK. - ehafner, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9Paul desperately needs more money to have any chance in this race. Please give what you can.
https://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate/ - ZWarren69, on 10/11/2007, -3/+11Junkie, your at it again, I see. As an atheist, I would fear electing anyone who would try to force feed me some biblical fairy tale. Thankfully, Ron Paul is not the rest of the GOP. Go Ron Paul!
- kapsar, on 10/11/2007, -3/+11@dmegivern
Yes, my brother worked in a similar situation. But i've seen private organizations work very well for mental health. UPMC Western Psych is a good example of that. The problem is that many of the companies are for profit, but just because it's private does not mean the company has to be a for profit company. I know there are some very good companies that do what you are talking about and some very bad ones. It's a shame. i hope that the companies that get into the system he proposes are held to very high standards. There is ISO:9001 standards for health care. Perhaps as a requirement to get contracts from the government or as a requirement on the hospitals they all must have that certification. - Frozo, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7Too bad you will never get the chance to vote for him. Even if you change your status from Democrat (or whatever else) to Republican, you need to wait a full year before voting in a primary. And because he's so not what the GOP wants, he will never see the light of Election Day, sadly. You would think that because he has such a fanbase on the left, the GOP would embrace this and use that to better their chances of another 4 years. But they are willing to sacrifice that at the hope of having someone in office that suits THEIR needs.
- Dudeee, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8What do you mean after his run in with Giuliani, most underdog candidates would backed off and got lost in the media's insane criticism, but he fought back, and cleared his name and words.
He has yet to flip flop on issues, he sticks to his words.
What makes him weak? because he isn't as wealthy as the others? - Protonz, on 10/11/2007, -3/+10Well if you want an example of gov't intervention increasing health-care costs look at prescription drugs.
Patent law in the US causes products to be over-priced and prevents the need to do future research. These patent laws are created by government at the request of large corporations. This is not a free market, this is called corporatism.
Competition is the key to a free market. If you look at regulations that on the surface have 'good intentions' you will notice many act to limit competition. - dmegivern, on 10/11/2007, -23/+30Easily--He is only right about one thing--the war. He wants to end social programs and privatize them. Why don't any societies currently do that effectively? Answer that, Mr. Paul.
The only reason I abide by any of society's rules or anyone else does is what is called the "Social Contract." In exchange for the protection and assistance of my "tribe" I give up freedoms. For example, I may want to be a meth user, but I can't because my society won't allow it. If I do, I could lose the privileges I care about--participation and assistance from my society. This is why there are no good working examples of libertarianism around the world.
Super easy way to see how this won't work is to examine what is happening NOW in just one field--the mental health system. Paul does not want to provide services to people with schizophrenia. Hell, he even objects to schools identifying potential dangerous students and getting them help.
The government already tried privatizing the mental health system. Guess what happened? Yes, that's right, it is a dismal failure. You can't make money from a homeless person, thus no one is going to invest capital in attending to their problems. Thus, private agencies deliver poor services. For example, I worked last year as a mental health practitioner for a private agency contracted with the state of Minnesota and it paid $30,000 per year starting to people with master's degrees who worked their asses off with back-to-back appointments with suicidal people. They don't even cram people into psychiatrists like they jammed them into our schedules. No one stays with the job, so the clients are harmed by high turnover (they are delicate people who can't be bounced around from provider to provider). Services are never improved, and instead go downhill more each year. We had cockroaches in our FILING cabinets that would jump out at clients during appointments.
So, Mr. Paul--What are we going to do with 2 million extra destitute, untreated psychotic people? You think Wall Street has a plan, then you are smoking something. - gus2074, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7I could vote for him even though I don't agree with some of his ideas. Not that I will for sure but I'm so sick of the current status quo doing nothing and making things worse for everyone that I would vote for just about anyone who isn't part of that crowd.
- Corrosionx, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6He's the only anti-war Republican., You think that he can't handle pressure?
- Toshibi, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7If you think Government bureaucracy is democratic you have another thing coming. Think about it. You get bad service from government, what can you do? Can't stop giving them your money, you go to jail. The bureaucrats aren't elected and their superiors aren't either, and the guys at the top are appointed by whatever douche is in the office at the time.
If a company jerks you around, and the company is not propped up by government through tax breaks and other forms of help, then they lose you as a customer. They do it enough and they're broke.
The basic problem is this: What we consider corporations (most of which are small mom and pops by the way) are actually government propped up institutions which get enough in breaks to stay afloat even if people moved away from them in mass. - dn11, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5i just wonder why Jon continues to try and keep these people from leaving, he should just let them gracefully walk away rather than saying "ok, just stay there... NO, NO! don't go away!" although I do find it kind of disrespectful that guests come on the show and can't wait a few extra seconds in order to fit in with the intended format of the show. it's as if they're saying "ok i promoted myself on your worthless show, now I've got more important things to do".
- Blaatmeister, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7@frozo
Wow, you need to change your "status" before voting on someone on the other team? I really don't get how America can claim that it's the most free country in the world with weird rules like that, because that's not real freedom IMO. - bashnu, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7Jon Stewart for Vice President.
- Bigboomer223, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7Wrong. The Government would still regulate it.. But NOT facilitate it!
Duh!
There are 4 dimensions to everything even though most only see 3... - Toshibi, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7I'm a libertarian and lacking a more viable candidate, I will vote for Ron Paul on principle. I agree with more of what he has to say than I do any of the front running *****. I don't care if people say that I'm wasting my vote, it's about principle. I want to be able to live with myself after.
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