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- Xihix, on 05/04/2008, -96/+253They want to be treated as equals, don't they? Then there shouldn't be anything wrong with outing them as well as the other heterosexual couples.
- explnx, on 04/27/2009, -35/+167Why should the principal be posting the names of any of the students' private romantic relationships?
- MikeMcG, on 05/04/2008, -7/+115This story seemed funnier when I read the title as "Principal Allegedly Out Gays Students."
- fkr3, on 05/04/2008, -19/+122Pfft. Don't be such a *****.
How can they be 'outed' after having 'public displays of affection in the hallways'? Is it a school for the blind? - chrisduser, on 05/04/2008, -22/+106The principal knew about their "private" romantic relationships because of the "public" actions.
- VinnieDaMac, on 05/04/2008, -48/+131Isn't this a good thing? They're being treated the same as Straight students.
- Skootles, on 05/04/2008, -13/+88"The principal did not list any information other than students' names on her personal call list, and she certainly did not specify the sexual orientation of any student,"
Because, you know, listing two guys as a couple means they're not gay, right? - follower64, on 05/04/2008, -33/+1071. Find a slightly outrageous story.
2. Make a small yet controversial headline based on a small part of the article
3. ???
4. Get on the front page - Logicexe, on 05/04/2008, -17/+84Oh right, because gay couples have never been the victims of discrimination and harassment, sure, lets just just throw them to the hateful bigots and blame them for their own fate. Lets just ignore all the cases where homosexual teens have been bullied, killed and committed suicide just so we can sit on our high horses and mock them for wanting to be treated as human beings.
- credence, on 05/04/2008, -3/+65Did you read the same article I did?
To quote:
'Sun, who told ABCNEWS.com that she believes the Memphis school district to be "homophobic," said that Nicholas' mother — who was "shocked" to hear that her son is gay — reported that Beasley said she "had a problem with homosexuality" and that "homosexuality will not be tolerated." '
To be fair, I agree that if all that happened was their parents were called the same as everyone elses, then that would be 100% fair, but the comments from this Principal are a bit...out there? - stavrogin2, on 05/04/2008, -20/+81Because outing them can result in violence from bigots or their parents kicking them out of the house.
- kosmoX, on 05/04/2008, -15/+74It isn't private when there is PDA in the hallways.
- aywwts4, on 05/04/2008, -7/+61In an ideal world that shouldn't be a problem. but a lot of homosexual children stay closeted from their parents for some pretty good reasons, like being disowned from a family that would have no patience for a gay child in their straight household. For this reason some statistics say 40% of teenage runaways are gay. Similarly, there are a lot of households where they would be sent for reprogramming, to get the gay out of their children. Perhaps being able to be themselves at school, without having to fear the reactions of their parents was a very positive thing that these kids needed. The thing is, this principle would have no idea how the parents would react, it was a very dangerous and stupid thing to do.
I know many people who never came out to their parents until they were financially independent, and it was very good thing they waited. I know another who was kicked out of the house and pronounced "dead to them" the moment their parents found out. - rebelcommander, on 05/04/2008, -9/+56How is it that nobody in the school but the principal knew these students were gay? I would think that plenty of other students knew about it before she found out...
- explnx, on 04/27/2009, -2/+39This part of the article says it all:
"Nicholas' mother — who was "shocked" to hear that her son is gay — reported that Beasley said she "had a problem with homosexuality" and that "homosexuality will not be tolerated." "
It doesn't take a lot of reading between the lines. - samuraivanity, on 05/04/2008, -9/+45You know, you're really not helping Hillary's chances here, pal.
- explnx, on 04/27/2009, -4/+38RTFA douchebag:
"Nicholas' mother — who was "shocked" to hear that her son is gay — reported that Beasley said she "had a problem with homosexuality" and that "homosexuality will not be tolerated." " - rebelcommander, on 05/04/2008, -9/+42That is an interesting point, if no provisions are taken to conceal the "straightness" of heterosexual students than no provisions need be taken for concealing the "gayness" homosexual students either. However, we live in a country where being gay can get you killed, so perhaps the extra caution should be taken.
- inactive, on 05/04/2008, -4/+37From the article..
"What's more, according to the ACLU, the list was not as confidential as the school district claims, but rather posted in full view of those who entered the principal's office — including gossipy high school students.
"The list was in plain site of anyone who walked into the principal's office," said Sun"
So yeah it was posted fairly publicly - dinostabOMG, on 05/04/2008, -2/+34The whole situation is idiotic. Since when does the principal post a list of gossip in public in order to crack down on this kind of "problem?" This could be awkward for heterosexual couples, or alleged couples, too. These are high school kids, remember? It certainly isn't an adult way of handling the situation, much less for a principal. It makes you wonder why this approach was taken in the first place - and homophobia certainly seems like a reasonable hypothesis.
- voodoochild461, on 05/04/2008, -18/+48"a list of couples — including some who are gay"
If these kids are doing stuff in the hall at school, why are they so pissed if people know about it? - richporter, on 05/04/2008, -7/+37OMG, they have a vocabulary. They must be gay. Only fags learn how to speak well.
- staticneuron, on 05/04/2008, -1/+27They should be treat... wait.......... stop. Think for a second. A principal posted a list of couples. Number 1. I have NEVER heard of any other school trying this before. Number 2. What right does the principle think she has to do this? Number 3. If it was against the rules they should have been punished as they were caught instead of some drummed up list as a preventive measure.
This story stinks and so does everyone trying to play it down. - Hypomanic, on 05/04/2008, -3/+28Right they'll totally be treated the same when their family disowns them and their parents kick them out of their house and then they have to drop out and probably become drug addicts and prostitutes. I grew up in a large city in Texas, and that happens all the time here. I can think of two guys at my high school who landed up down that path. I'm sure Tennessee isn't that different.
- jp12380, on 05/04/2008, -21/+43PDA meaning your doing something publicly yet you are upset that your privacy is being violated.
- zbor, on 05/04/2008, -2/+23Have you ever been to a high school? People have different identities at school and with their parents. I know a lot of people who were out at school, but not with their parents.
- sethisastud, on 05/04/2008, -3/+23It wasn't even that...they didn't have PDAs...they were suspected of being a couple, then the principal called the parents. And as being a 'gay' and growing up in a gay-hostile family I can see why this is wrong. I probably would have several broken bones via my dad if this happened to me while I was in high school. You seriously don't understand what it's like to grow up gay.
- PabloMac, on 05/04/2008, -1/+21What are you really trying to say?
- SixOrSoPapers, on 05/04/2008, -2/+21That is an appealing sound bite, but I would argue that it is more complex than that. Because of society's perceptions, "outing" a straight couple is simply not the same as outing a gay couple. The fact that many people are uncomfortable with or even hostile towards homosexuality is the fundamental difference that is hindering equality, not the rate at which a principal announces couples (the latter is only "equal" superficially). I think that it is a safe bet that if gay couples were as accepted (morally, socially, legally, emotionally) as straight couples, they wouldn't have any reason to intentionally hide their orientation, and outing everyone would actually be equal.
- wacomwacoff, on 05/04/2008, -1/+19If you had any idea what kids in highschool go through if they're even suspected of being gay....
- Logicexe, on 05/04/2008, -4/+22Think about the consequences. I know it's fun to mount your moral high horse and claim you have principles but sometimes those principles just don't work in the real world. Do I really have to explain all the victimization homosexuals have gone through? Especially young gay teens who have some of the highest rates of suicide?
I'll be more than happy the day homosexuals really are treated the same way everyone else, but until then we cannot just oversimplify the issue and say "hey we're just being fair" because these actions have consequences and in these cases very often those consequences are bullying, harassment, and sometimes murder. - Silenthunter747, on 05/04/2008, -24/+42"Additionally, the list was never posted publicly anywhere at the school."
She just called the parents of the students who were publicly "romantic" in the hallways. I'm not really seeing a problem here. - Skootles, on 05/04/2008, -1/+18The principal is a woman.
- NSResponder, on 05/04/2008, -0/+17"They're being treated the same as Straight students."
You're kind of missing the point that this raving ***** of a bureaucrat has no business doing this to the straight students, either.
-jcr - GrooTheWanderer, on 05/04/2008, -11/+27Don't put on a public display and expect privacy.
- techie4life, on 05/04/2008, -0/+16the article says several gay couples were listed and the list was about 15 couples, seems more like she just threw a few straight couples in the mix to be "fair".
- zellis, on 05/04/2008, -2/+18To everyone insisting that the principal was acting fairly and honestly in cracking down on both homosexual and heterosexual PDAs: the list WAS NOT A LIST OF PEOPLE ENGAGING IN PDAs. It was a list of people believed to be going out with each other. In fact, according to the details of the situation acquired by the ACLU, the principal in fact admitted that the two boys had never engaged in any PDAs to her knowledge.
The ACLU's letter is here:http://www.aclu.org/images/asset_upload_file209_35 ... - gcnaddict, on 05/04/2008, -17/+32Misleading title. Principal outed *couples*, not just gays.
So the ***** what? I'm tired of seeing people making out too... except I have to see it everywhere on campus. It's gross. - Logicexe, on 05/04/2008, -2/+17Can you point out where in the article it says the gay students were actually caught making out in public? Go ahead look for it, you won't find it. What the principal did was simply gather information about ALL couples and without any sensitivity towards the privacy of the teenagers proceeded to alert the parents that their kids were involved in a relationship, regardless of the consequences this may pose to the homosexual teens. On top of that, the list of couples was easily viewed in the principal's office, so it wouldn't have been very difficult for anyone to find out.
- ha1f, on 05/04/2008, -25/+40FTA: "It's raised our concerns about how gay students are treated," added Sun
What? Like everyone else? - DownloadThis, on 05/04/2008, -6/+21(@ DemsFTW)
This is one of the most ignorant comments I've ever seen. - NotOptium, on 05/04/2008, -5/+20Would they prefer palm in the bathroom?
- Logicexe, on 05/04/2008, -0/+15This may be just paranoid speculation on my part but I wouldn't be surprised if the teacher used this as an excuse to get at the gay students. Seriously, if she wanted to crack down on PDAs why didn't they just give detentions and call the parents of students who were caught?
- ADHD, on 05/04/2008, -6/+21parents didnt though
- Kennerk, on 05/04/2008, -4/+18really? only gays say fierce and phenomenal? im bi, and i almost never say those words.... weird how that ***** works aint it?
- ADHD, on 05/04/2008, -0/+14*shrug*
parents - aywwts4, on 05/04/2008, -5/+19Above any stupid "Everyone needs to be treated equally and ***** intelligent thought" drone behavior, the safety of the children should be the top priority. And yes, forcing gay kids to come out to their possibly bigoted parents is most certainly endangering. The kids could have been disciplined in a matter that would not notify the parents. And understanding should be a priority, because what is a "normal" holding hand couple walking down the hall, becomes an "obscene pda" in the eyes of a homophobe when it is two men or two women.
I remember fair while ago at my high school, we took a pretty lax view of PDAs, it was par for the course to kiss in public, just not make out or someone would tell you to knock it off. A lesbian couple kissed and the janitor absolutely freaked out in rage. Shouting at these kids to stop being so "***** disgusting", and threw one of them up against the locker pretty violently, the man was fired. but the reaction reveals a lot, especially in some areas, there still isn't an equal understanding or acceptance of gay children. - wacomwacoff, on 05/04/2008, -7/+20You truly have no idea what kind of pain kids in highschool go through if they're even suspected of being gay. Seriously. It's ugly.
- Killeroid, on 05/04/2008, -1/+14You guys are missing the point. This is not about the gay couples.Its about the violation of the privacy of ALL the students. The principal had no right to post a list of the students' private romantic relationships without their permission. Even though, from the comments of the principal, we can assume she primarily did it to out the gay couples, the principal also outed the relationships of some straight couples and so she violated both the gay and straight couples' rights. I for one hope she gets her homophobic ass fired.
- techie4life, on 05/04/2008, -3/+15I have a gay sibling, I know how much it means for him to come out on HIS own terms and often it means a gay person needs to come out within their own social group(and/or siblings) first then a little further with the other people around them before they even consider coming out to their parents. It is never okay for anyone out the sexual orientation of someone who has a lot to lose if they don't do it themselves.
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