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Mom arrested after 32 years on lam
msnbc.msn.com — A woman who escaped from a Detroit prison 32 years ago has been arrested in San Diego, where she was married with three children and living under a false name, authorities said. Susan LeFevre, who had been using the name Marie Walsh, was arrested April 24 by federal marshals at her home in the posh Carmel Valley neighborhood of San Diego.
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- snoopduggydugg, on 05/07/2008, -11/+232While the law is the law...
Doesn't law enforcement have something better to do than to chase down drug cases from 32 years ago? It seems that her time out of jail and married is much better rehab then what she probably would have gotten in prison.- fitqueenb, on 05/07/2008, -8/+78That is what I was thinking too.. I did not realize that the country had so much extra money to throw around to find someone from 32 yrs ago, that is now a productive citizen. Now the taxpayers get to pay for her. Sometimes you wonder.... what are the priorities????
- vision777, on 05/07/2008, -6/+11I think they said an anonymous tip led to her arrest.
- chirio, on 05/07/2008, -2/+14anonymous or not. as fitqueenb said before: waste of money. she could continue working and paying taxes, but "Now the taxpayers get to pay for her".
- sailadayaway, on 05/07/2008, -4/+3I think they picked her up because her fingerprints red-flagged when she went for a driver's license. At least that's what the article said, you can take it or leave it...
- vision777, on 05/07/2008, -6/+11I think they said an anonymous tip led to her arrest.
- ElAssoWipo, on 05/07/2008, -24/+36They received a tip, they investigated. That's what they're there for.
- thedogfatherx, on 05/07/2008, -18/+18Thats exactly correct. People who digg you down are ***** dumb.
- toasterweasel, on 05/07/2008, -9/+16Dugg down for lack of compassion. If you believe they throughly investigate every tip they receive then you're the one who is ***** dumb.
- ElAssoWipo, on 05/07/2008, -5/+7Why would I believe that and wtf does it have to do with compassion?
"Doesn't law enforcement have something better to do than to chase down drug cases from 32 years ago?"
They chased nothing, they were tipped.
They investigated this one.
And what the hell is "throughly"?- DephexTwin, on 05/07/2008, -1/+5It's "thoroughly" with a missing "o" due to a typing mistake.
- ElAssoWipo, on 05/07/2008, -5/+7Why would I believe that and wtf does it have to do with compassion?
- paperclipsNsoup, on 05/07/2008, -3/+5Tho I do agree with your point, the idea of investigating is to find someone dangerous, or to stop crimes... But she was a productive member of society. Sometimes its better to let the chips fall as they may.
Try and put yourself into the shoes of her kids. Here is your mom, who, by all indications, is a loving woman and a productive member of society. She's working, married, and with 2 daughters. Now imagine, out of the blue, your mom is arrested and is facing many years in prison for (what some may consider) a minor crime that was committed more than 3 decades ago.
She sold 3 grams of Heroin to a UC cop for $200.
Whether you consider this a small crime or not, you have to concede, she did turn her life around... Thats the point of going to prison. Its not like there were any victims ie. murder, robbery, assult- leetdood, on 05/07/2008, -2/+5The law is the law, if they receive a tip about a prison escapee, they aren't allowed to say "Oh, nevermind, this lady just sold a few grams of smack to a cop, let's get outta here."
- dave122, on 05/07/2008, -13/+42it's not about rehabilitation, it's about retribution.
- sodade, on 05/07/2008, -3/+11Who the ***** dugg this down? Who could argue that we do a good job of rehabilitating prisoners?
- dave122, on 05/07/2008, -1/+19Perhaps they thought I was saying that was a good practice, i was just saying that our system does not care about rehabilitating people, it's all about punishment and retribution.
- paperclipsNsoup, on 05/07/2008, -2/+3I strongly disagree, the US does a terrible job rehabilitating.
Here's an example: You fall into a bad crowd. You start selling drug. You go to jail with felony charges. 15 years go by... Now no one will hire you, no one wants to hire an ex-con, and you haven't worked a job in 15+ years. You have to feed yourself, and shelter yourself, what do you do when you can't get a job (or at least one that will pay your bills)
There is an extremely high rate of people going BACK to prison. Rehabilitation means they have become a productive member of society. How can someone become a productive member of society, when they are an outcast, and looked down on as an ex-con.
The biggest factor in this is people in poor neighborhoods where there is no where else to turn but to crime. You can't escape if you can't make money to escape.- ElAssoWipo, on 05/07/2008, -2/+4God I hate that crap.
Poverty doesn't lead to crime, lack of integrity leads to crime. The biggest factor is bad parenting.
Being raised dirt poor, I take offense to that.
The only reason I'm not poor now is that I was smart enough to see what I needed to do: get an education. And to do this, I worked my ass off. Period.
I worked ***** jobs for years, took me 7 years to complete my first bachelor's. The only difference between me and every other guy is that I worked instead of complaining about life being hard while spending all the peanuts I earned on ridiculous clothing, drugs, clubs and other useless crap. - dave122, on 05/07/2008, -0/+4and you are the kind of person that makes me hate social programs, props to you. This is the land of opportunity and everyone has one, whether you choose to take advantage of it or not is your prerogative, I don't' feel bad for people that don't.
"The world doesn't owe you *****, it was here first." - jezsik, on 05/07/2008, -2/+2Good for you, ElAssoWipo, but imagine if things had been a bit different. Suppose you had a bad parent, what then? Suppose you were surrounded by really bad roll models; maybe people who figured life owed them something, maybe people who took the easy path of crime and drugs. Growing up in that kind of environment it is ALL TOO EASY to fall into those bad patterns and end up in jail. What will you learn there? You're again surrounded by bad roll models. Wouldn't it be nice if there was a penal system that helped people break out of the vicious cycle?
- ElAssoWipo, on 05/08/2008, -1/+2There is a penal system that helps people break out of the vicious cycle.
It's called shape up or go to jail. - jezsik, on 05/08/2008, -2/+1It's that sort of short-sighted mentality that leads to more and more people going to jail in this country. I'm sure you're the "spare the rod and spoil the child" type of parent, too.
- ElAssoWipo, on 05/09/2008, -0/+2No, I'm the kick in the ass and get a job type of parent.
And people are going to jail because they're ***** stupid and won't admit it so they never do anything about it. - jezsik, on 05/10/2008, -2/+1Yup, you're the definition of a "spare the rod" parent.
People are going to jail because they're stupid? Great, so it's the education system's fault now, ha, ha! - ElAssoWipo, on 05/10/2008, -0/+2No I said it was the parents fault. And judging by your purposeful lack of reading comprehension, yo mama needs to slap you around a little.
The education system isn't there to raise your little degenerates. It's there to educate them. - jezsik, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1So, you insist that it's the parents fault that the children are stupid and because they're stupid they'll end up in jail. Well, guess what, you just proved my point. If a child is brought up in a bad environment, bad roll models, they have a very slim chance of "making it." Throwing them in jail doesn't fix them, the threat of jail is no real threat, so the vicious circle is renewed. So, what to do? I say educate them.
- ElAssoWipo, on 05/07/2008, -2/+4God I hate that crap.
- jezsik, on 05/07/2008, -0/+8Sad but true. I don't get why people are digging you down.
- sodade, on 05/07/2008, -3/+11Who the ***** dugg this down? Who could argue that we do a good job of rehabilitating prisoners?
- xtraa, on 05/07/2008, -7/+46I bet the anonymous whistle-blower feels pretty proud now. Life just became a little bit better.
- crossmr, on 05/07/2008, -18/+4they matched fingerprints..no whistle-blower there.. but hey, let's digg you anyway..
- ElAssoWipo, on 05/07/2008, -1/+15"An anonymous caller tipped Michigan officials to her location."
Why do you come to a news site if you don't read the news? - sailadayaway, on 05/07/2008, -0/+2Actually, the article contradicts itself, it says someone tipped them off, AND it says the Feds traced her by matching her fingerprints..
There is more of the story below the ad..- ElAssoWipo, on 05/07/2008, -1/+2"She was charged with escape but was not traced until marshals matched her fingerprints to California driver's license records for Marie Walsh."
Can nobody read english anymore?
She was identified by her fingerprints.
- ElAssoWipo, on 05/07/2008, -1/+2"She was charged with escape but was not traced until marshals matched her fingerprints to California driver's license records for Marie Walsh."
- DephexTwin, on 05/07/2008, -1/+3Hey, you didn't read the article, but why not post a comment anyway.
- ElAssoWipo, on 05/07/2008, -1/+15"An anonymous caller tipped Michigan officials to her location."
- novenator, on 05/07/2008, -2/+2probably some asshole that betrayed her (or tried to bribe her)
- crossmr, on 05/07/2008, -18/+4they matched fingerprints..no whistle-blower there.. but hey, let's digg you anyway..
- ShempRider, on 05/07/2008, -5/+15The Marshals don't chase drug cases, they chase fugitives. And they won't stop chasing until you're dead or captured.
- TheHayze, on 05/07/2008, -2/+28Tommy Lee Jones, is that you?
- ShempRider, on 05/07/2008, -5/+3"Don't ever argue with the big dog, because the big dog is always right."
- novenator, on 05/07/2008, -7/+1***** US marshals, they are the worst of the worst
- moofer, on 05/07/2008, -1/+2Was she hiding in a hen house, whore house, or out house?
- TheHayze, on 05/07/2008, -2/+28Tommy Lee Jones, is that you?
- ilves7, on 05/07/2008, -17/+23eh.. she escaped from prison, just because you managed to get away and haven't screwed up since doesn't relieve you of your previous crimes.
- DangerMouse9, on 05/07/2008, -8/+24Did she physically harm anyone? Did she steal from anyone? Or was she just busted for possession of drugs?
If your previous crimes are victim-less then after 32 years it should just be let go.- wicketr, on 05/07/2008, -9/+10I would love to see you try to get that bill passed. See how well that goes over for you.
"Escaping from prison is OK if you were only there for drugs" - raynar, on 05/07/2008, -2/+10No one can prove it was victimless. She was arrested under conspiracy, and was believed to have been a major drug dealer. How many lives did she ruin during this stint?
- paperclipsNsoup, on 05/07/2008, -2/+3She got caught selling 3 grams of Heroin to a UC cop
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20080503- ...
Tho that is a bunch of smack, she was also a full time student, with a low paying job.
I don't think she can be painted as some kinda drug lord. I personally have sold a little pot here an there (Good ol' Canada didn't care at the time) but I was also a student in Toronto with a low paying job, and the ONLY way I ever had any money to say... Fix my car, get gas, buy food was to make a little money on the side.
I do agree that she did commit a crime and she should pay, but she spent (Arrested in '74 escaped for 32 years) 2 years in prison and turned her life around. Isn't that the point of rehabilitation? - spikedtuba, on 05/07/2008, -0/+1There's no such thing as a victimless crime. If a crime is "victimless" then the victim is society at large.
- wicketr, on 05/07/2008, -9/+10I would love to see you try to get that bill passed. See how well that goes over for you.
- Lixie, on 05/07/2008, -5/+16What crime? I don't consider drug possession a crime.
- raynar, on 05/07/2008, -10/+6Why not? They're illegal. Thats like saying "I dont consider carrying a severed head a crime". Stupid digg lawyer....
- Diggalicious3, on 05/07/2008, -2/+9She was not convicted of simple possession, she was convicted of dealing heroin and cocaine. According to the articles, she was making $2000 a week dealing heroin. After she escaped, she obtained forged license, a fake SS number, and yet she will most likely only finish her sentence. She could be out in 5 1/2 years if shes good. She should consider herself lucky.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/inland/la-me-fug ...
http://www.mlive.com/saginawnews/news/index.ssf/20 ...
http://www.mlive.com/saginawnews/news/index.ssf/20 ... - solarsavior, on 05/07/2008, -4/+6@raynar
WRONG, dead wrong. Horrible analogy. A severed head is a crime against another person. Drug possession is a nothing of the sort. Most of America is on some type of drug: alcohol, anti-depressants, Viagra, etc. In my opinion, a person has a right to do with their own body anything they damn well please, including filling it with any kind of drug they wish. They OWN their own body. They cannot however expect me to save them from themselves. So long as they don't commit crimes against others, they should be left alone. Punishment for drug possession is stupid and provides very few benefits.- jgtg32a, on 05/07/2008, -0/+4This isn't weed though, hard drugs in a community do have a greater effect on the community, crime does go up when drugs are involved.
- lotsa1s, on 05/07/2008, -0/+0Jgtg, thinking you have absolutely any say over what anyone puts in their body is bad for AMERICA.
- Gump9005, on 05/07/2008, -3/+5@ solarsavior
To be fair, his analogy does kinda work. She was caught dealing drugs. In that case she is affecting others. If it was just simple possession, I would have no problem. - novenator, on 05/07/2008, -1/+1Agreed, and law enforcement ALWAYS exaggerates the value of drugs to make it seem like a worse crime (or perhaps to make the fish story just a little more juicy)
- Diggalicious3, on 05/08/2008, -0/+1According to the UN, drugs can negatively effect a countries economy, and gains made from producing and selling drugs are offset by a loss of productivity. Theres also negative social effects from hard drugs. So selling drugs may negatively effect me.
- DephexTwin, on 05/07/2008, -1/+4Why do we ever have a statute of limitations on crimes? I'm not saying this falls under statute of limitations, but at some point you have to look at something case-by-case and say, well clearly here we have someone who made a good life for herself and became a totally new person, and it's just too long ago to dig up this crap now.
- headzoo, on 05/07/2008, -2/+5I agree that the her escape shouldn't get unpunished. But I think her punishment should be extremely lite. Like a year of parole.
- wattersm, on 05/07/2008, -2/+1No, the state should use their head and drop the charges. Yeah, she did escape from prison but it was for something that she shouldn't have been sent there for in the first place. I live in Michigan so if I was selected to serve on her jury I'd be voting "not guilty" for damn sure.
- norcalscan, on 05/07/2008, -0/+1WHAT ARE YOUR CRIMES?! I guess you couldn't be a scientologist...
- DangerMouse9, on 05/07/2008, -8/+24Did she physically harm anyone? Did she steal from anyone? Or was she just busted for possession of drugs?
- aidave, on 05/07/2008, -10/+17Another win for the Drug Inquisi... I mean Drug War!
- Asvetic, on 05/07/2008, -1/+8Numberneal: Sorry about your mom getting caught again.
- roosterjm2k2, on 05/07/2008, -22/+14Commit Felony.
Escape Prison.
Create false identity. (means probably not paying taxes)
Live on the run, actively lying all the while.
Yeah, she deserves what she gets. I don't care if she's a saint, escape from prison = felony ... do the crime, do the time... simple.- xtraa, on 05/07/2008, -4/+12simple ≠ real life
- dfsjdkflasjk, on 05/07/2008, -5/+4dugg for ≠ sign
- wes00mertes, on 05/07/2008, -0/+3!=
- dfsjdkflasjk, on 05/07/2008, -5/+4dugg for ≠ sign
- Synn, on 05/07/2008, -3/+4I bet you were a teacher's pet.
- Bilabrin, on 05/07/2008, -4/+5That's the same rationality that nazi's used to execute our POW's when they escaped. Never mind why they were put in or whether it was right or not. (Sorry about the Godwin's law but it makes my point)
- Asvetic, on 05/07/2008, -5/+2I tend to agree... it's not like she was running from the Terminator, trying to protect her son.
- xtraa, on 05/07/2008, -4/+12simple ≠ real life
- KiraDnote, on 05/07/2008, -6/+8I'm in favor of a pardon by the Governator. And hell, why wait until a lot of time and effort is expended on her case, do it now and save the tax payers some money.
- vypergts, on 05/07/2008, -0/+13I don't think the governor of California can pardon fugitives from Michigan.
- DephexTwin, on 05/07/2008, -3/+6THE GOVERNATOR CAN PARDON MICHIGAN FUGITIVES IF HE WANTS TO!
- moofer, on 05/07/2008, -1/+3Your caps-lock key is stuck.
- DephexTwin, on 05/07/2008, -3/+2YOU MAKE GOVERNATOR ANGRY!!
- DephexTwin, on 05/07/2008, -3/+6THE GOVERNATOR CAN PARDON MICHIGAN FUGITIVES IF HE WANTS TO!
- ahoyhoy, on 05/07/2008, -0/+8Gonna need a pardon from the Governor of Michigan, where the crime took place in the first place that she is being arrested for again.
- Bilabrin, on 05/07/2008, -5/+2Not if California fights the extradition. Schwartzy nigga won't do it though. Nevermind that he used drugs too...
- moofer, on 05/07/2008, -3/+2reported.
- Bilabrin, on 05/07/2008, -1/+2Oh my bad, I wasn't trying to be offensive. Sorry.
- yacks, on 05/08/2008, -0/+1I say California just invades Michigan and taked it over.That'll be a cooler story.
- Bilabrin, on 05/07/2008, -5/+2Not if California fights the extradition. Schwartzy nigga won't do it though. Nevermind that he used drugs too...
- vypergts, on 05/07/2008, -0/+13I don't think the governor of California can pardon fugitives from Michigan.
- Bilabrin, on 05/07/2008, -5/+3Another win in the war on drugs YEAH!....What? destroyed a family over *****? what are you a commie?!?! Empty your pockets!
- moofer, on 05/07/2008, -2/+10So we should be encouraging people to escape from prison and find meaningful lives while on the run? Did I miss something here?
- Bilabrin, on 05/07/2008, -2/+3We're talking about drugs here not rape, arson, murder, child abuse, robbery etc..
- wattersm, on 05/07/2008, -2/+3Yup, you totally missed the point, people should not be going to prison for possession of drugs, or even selling them, ESPECIALLY for a first offense. The whole war on drugs is insane and needs to end NOW.
- moofer, on 05/08/2008, -0/+1I beg to differ. Why she was in jail is irrelevant. The fact that she escaped from jail is a felony. The reason why she was there in the first place is of no consequence. If I got arrested for doing 30 mph over the speed limit in a school zone, and I escaped from custody, my life just got a lot more difficult than what should have been a simple traffic infraction. The fact I escaped from lawful custody makes me a felon, and prosecutable under the full extent of the law.
- LingNoi, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1"Why she was in jail is irrelevant." - Wow, how ignorant. I wonder how you'll feel if you get jailed in Thailand for stepping on a note with the kings head.. Yep, irrelevant, you're a criminal.
Sounds stupid right, well it's about as stupid as drug laws and your point of view.
- Blitzenn, on 05/07/2008, -1/+5Since when has the prison system here in the US had anything to do with rehabilitation? That is a sales pitch thrown out there by authorities whenever they are challanged, not reality. Prison is all about F'ing someone's life up enough so that they don't do it again. It's an obvious fallicy as you have done just that, F'ed up thier life to the point they don't have one to go back to. You haven't taught anyone anything except hatred. Prison doesn't 'help' anyone. Its not at all what the purpose is. IF you want rehab, then ditch corporal punishment and stop trying to convince people corporal punishment IS rehab. Duh! Beat someone with a stick and expect them to be nicer? Who is stupid now?
- thedogfatherx, on 05/07/2008, -3/+4Of course prison is a punishment. Although they are getting somewhat better now on the rehabilitation part. Finally. It's not about ***** someones life up. If you've been to prison, you shouldn't be an idiot again and want to go back. Simple. Prison is suppose to suck so bad they don't want to go back. If you don't want to go back, follow the ***** laws like everyone else.
- Jashobeam5, on 05/07/2008, -1/+2http://www.cnn.com/US/9907/27/tough.sheriff/
If you make prison unpleasant enough, people actually don't want to go back.
- Jashobeam5, on 05/07/2008, -1/+2http://www.cnn.com/US/9907/27/tough.sheriff/
- thedogfatherx, on 05/07/2008, -3/+4Of course prison is a punishment. Although they are getting somewhat better now on the rehabilitation part. Finally. It's not about ***** someones life up. If you've been to prison, you shouldn't be an idiot again and want to go back. Simple. Prison is suppose to suck so bad they don't want to go back. If you don't want to go back, follow the ***** laws like everyone else.
- hmunkey, on 05/07/2008, -0/+2The point of this arrest was to show that fugitives can't escape. It has nothing to do with the original arrest, but with the fact that she escaped.
- hyperden, on 05/08/2008, -0/+1yup, that is what i was thinking to, she did a better job with herself out of jail then in it...
Some people do learn lessons and move on, and she was only young and stupid back then...
- fitqueenb, on 05/07/2008, -8/+78That is what I was thinking too.. I did not realize that the country had so much extra money to throw around to find someone from 32 yrs ago, that is now a productive citizen. Now the taxpayers get to pay for her. Sometimes you wonder.... what are the priorities????
- MikeonTV, on 05/07/2008, -4/+11Any word on what she could do if she is convicted?
- Abomonog, on 05/07/2008, -3/+33Her original time (10- 20 years) plus 5 years for escape plus 5 years each year she was on the lam.
Doesn't matter though. The escape plus living under a false name and getting married under that name. All of the false ID and now dozens of pending federal purgery charges once they trace her last 32 years will guarantee she never leaves jail ever again.- brufleth, on 05/07/2008, -5/+26Which is the law and all but...is it really worth jailing her for life when she was apparently a productive member of society? I agree it isn't fair for her to just "get off" but it also seems silly to spend all the money on keeping her jailed the rest of her life if she was apparently a productive member of society.
Guess the law is the law though.- nodong, on 05/07/2008, -6/+21Guess the law is the law though?
***** that. Just because some asshat legislators pandering to their ***** sheeple electorate decide they don't want someone doing something doesn't mean they had divine insight into The Way Things Have To Be. - matschig, on 05/07/2008, -3/+4Why are you being dugg down?? You're right on.
- roosterjm2k2, on 05/07/2008, -9/+6The law is the law. That's correct.
You don't "bend" laws for special cases. Doing so sets precedent and opens the door for all kinds of problems. Clearly defined laws have clearly defined punishment, and that should be kept.- vtron, on 05/07/2008, -1/+12The law is "bent" every day by the people we pay and elect to uphold it. They just call it "interpretation".
- DephexTwin, on 05/07/2008, -2/+3You absolutely bend the law for special cases. If someone who gets jailed for drugs thinks that they can escape jail and get away with it as long as they start their lives over, make a nice family, and become a contributing member of society, then that doesn't sound like the worst thing in the world.
- roosterjm2k2, on 05/07/2008, -1/+3So when someone escapes from prison, we should just let them go, eh? I mean, they might become "productive members of society" right? Even though with their fake identity, they dont pay taxes and support the society itself and all...
- DephexTwin, on 05/07/2008, -1/+2One would look at each case and weigh the pros and cons individually.
- fantasticjon, on 05/07/2008, -2/+5One the one hand she did break the law. But on the other hand she is now an upstanding member of society. Just give her a butt load of community service. like 500 hours a year for the next 10 years. That is a win-win.... win
- nodong, on 05/07/2008, -6/+21Guess the law is the law though?
- MikeonTV, on 05/07/2008, -10/+1There is something wrong there.. cant DNA get her off?
- raynar, on 05/07/2008, -0/+3It was on the news last week that she's not being charged with the escape.
- Diggalicious3, on 05/07/2008, -0/+6Someone in the corrections department said she might only end up serving 5 1/2 years if shes good. They said Michigan isn't really looking at slapping on extra charges.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/inland/la-me-fug ...
http://www.mlive.com/saginawnews/news/index.ssf/20 ...
http://www.mlive.com/saginawnews/news/index.ssf/20 ...- wattersm, on 05/07/2008, -2/+4Yeah, ONLY 5 years. Let's turn somebody's life upside down, for what? Selling a ***** baggie of heroin? Damn this ***** ***** me off.
- Diggalicious3, on 05/08/2008, -0/+1If you read the articles, you'd see that she wasn't selling just a baggie of heroin, but that she was pulling $2000 a week dealing heroin. She had connections to big time drug dealers. It's not the case of some teen that got caught selling a bag of pot to his friends brother.
- wattersm, on 05/07/2008, -2/+4Yeah, ONLY 5 years. Let's turn somebody's life upside down, for what? Selling a ***** baggie of heroin? Damn this ***** ***** me off.
- brufleth, on 05/07/2008, -5/+26Which is the law and all but...is it really worth jailing her for life when she was apparently a productive member of society? I agree it isn't fair for her to just "get off" but it also seems silly to spend all the money on keeping her jailed the rest of her life if she was apparently a productive member of society.
- GOVStooge, on 05/07/2008, -5/+8She was already convicted... 32 years ago.
- Abomonog, on 05/07/2008, -0/+11Yes but she escaped. Under get tough laws you lose any time earned when you escape.
- MikeonTV, on 05/07/2008, -3/+2Convicted of breaking out.
- Abomonog, on 05/07/2008, -3/+33Her original time (10- 20 years) plus 5 years for escape plus 5 years each year she was on the lam.
- JimmySpaza, on 05/07/2008, -70/+12If you can't do the time, don't do the crime. Justice knows no time limits. It's great that she's married, etc. Now she can show that she respects our legal system and do the time quietly and obediently.
- Maynza, on 05/07/2008, -6/+15Yes master.
- dhaugen, on 05/07/2008, -6/+11yeah you probably shouldnt talk for a little while
- DangerMouse9, on 05/07/2008, -8/+6I hope by "a little while" you mean for the rest of his life.
- blitzkriegpunk, on 05/07/2008, -4/+1"If you can't do the time, don't do the crime."
Miami Vice was a pretty decent flick. Thanks for that.- bronxelf, on 05/07/2008, -0/+7If that's in the Miami Vice movie, they ripped it off from Baretta. It's the first line of the theme song. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baretta
- Herostratos, on 05/07/2008, -2/+5As a matter of fact, most laws *do* know time limits in other parts of the world. Over here only murder investigations are ever closed, if you do other stuff you're usually free to go if not sentenced within a decade or so.
- elegantjihad, on 05/07/2008, -0/+4yeah, but isn't that for stuff they haven't tried you on? She was convicted and escaped, would that be any different?
- elegantjihad, on 05/07/2008, -2/+3Whatever you say, Inspector Javer...
(it was just a loaf of bread, you prick) - Bilabrin, on 05/07/2008, -4/+1But it was drugs and it was the 70's. We're not talking about bank robbery here or manslaughter. Most likely it was for marijuana.
- JimmySpaza, on 05/07/2008, -1/+2It was for a LOT more than a little marijuana. And she escaped from prison too. RTFA.
- Bilabrin, on 05/07/2008, -0/+1I did, thanks but I didn't see why except for the vague term "drugs."
And escaping a prison sentence for Marijuana conviction (which may or may not be the case) and then living 32 years with a new family...C'mon, I think it's time to let it go allready JEEZ!- JimmySpaza, on 05/08/2008, -1/+1Well, in the grand scheme of things...I suppose so. But, given the state of America lately, I think that it is even more important today to stand on principle and not just look at the magnitude of the offense.
- Bilabrin, on 05/08/2008, -0/+1I think that's what she did. She realized she didn't hurt anyone and that the law was wrong. She stood on pricple and broke out.
- Bilabrin, on 05/07/2008, -0/+1I did, thanks but I didn't see why except for the vague term "drugs."
- JimmySpaza, on 05/07/2008, -1/+2It was for a LOT more than a little marijuana. And she escaped from prison too. RTFA.
- Indierocka, on 05/07/2008, -3/+6Exactly. Maybe after her time is served she can be rehabilitated back into society, ya know, become a normal citizen and then who knows, maybe she can get married, have some kids, move to San Diego. There's a lot of potential for this woman.
- JimmySpaza, on 05/07/2008, -1/+2There is a lot of potential for every human being in prison. Having potential doesn't mean not having to do the time if you do the crime.
Apparently, her potential didn't include being sorry for her past and turning herself in to make amends.
- JimmySpaza, on 05/07/2008, -1/+2There is a lot of potential for every human being in prison. Having potential doesn't mean not having to do the time if you do the crime.
- Abomonog, on 05/07/2008, -16/+107Sad. A family wasted for a bad law.
- thanakar, on 05/07/2008, -18/+16No, a family wasted by the rash judgement of a 19 yr old convict.
- DangerMouse9, on 05/07/2008, -6/+14wow... someone has some pot in the 60s and should go to jail for life. You sir are a winner!!!!!
- wicketr, on 05/07/2008, -1/+9I pretty sure she didn't get 10-20 years in prison for having a small amount (is that like 5lbs in the 60s?) of pot. She did something a little more serious I'm sure.
- Lixie, on 05/07/2008, -2/+7You'd be surprised how little drugs you need to get charged with so many crimes by today's DA. It's never just possession. They throw on "intent to distribute", "possession of paraphernalia", if there is a minor ANY where nearby "contributing to the delinquency of a minor", was the arrest made within 2000 ft of a school bus stop then "child endangerment" and so on.
- Bilabrin, on 05/07/2008, -2/+3@ wicketr
I really fail to see a positive linear relationship between severity of crime and quantity of marijana. I mean it's weed dude!- Niightwitch, on 05/08/2008, -1/+1RTFA. It was heroin she was selling, not weed.
- Bilabrin, on 05/08/2008, -0/+1@nightwitch. I did now you RTFA. It mentions simply "drugs". You pulled "heroin" out of your ass. Did it hurt?
- Diggalicious3, on 05/07/2008, -1/+4Well, she was caught selling heroin to an undercover cop, for $600. She had the tools for cutting heroin on her at the time. She was connected to bigger drug dealers. She was making $200,000 a week, which was estimated at $100,000+ a week in todays money. Why does everyone assume that drug charges is pot? Do some research.
- DangerMouse9, on 05/07/2008, -3/+1I still don't give a ***** that she was selling heroin. It's not like she was molesting kids, breaking into cars/houses, forcing people to do drugs. She was providing a service, even if some government official thinks it should be illegal. I'd still rather live next door to a heroin dealer than a gang banger.
- lotsa1s, on 05/07/2008, -1/+1Why does the type of drug matter the slightest?
- Diggalicious3, on 05/08/2008, -0/+2I'm still undecided on whether or not pot is that bad. I think we could set up a good system to legalize it, but I'm not sure if it should be done. However, heroin is serious stuff. Based on the intensive research I did while watching "Ray", it's not something I think should be legal and available legally, based on how addictive Wikipedia said it is.
Now for a ridiculous analogy-could we say the same of murder? Is bashing a mans head in with a nerf football worse then a gunshot? Some would say so.
- Rodman930, on 05/07/2008, -2/+4Yeah, because we should be putting 19 yr olds in prison for 10-20 years on drug charges.
- DangerMouse9, on 05/07/2008, -6/+14wow... someone has some pot in the 60s and should go to jail for life. You sir are a winner!!!!!
- Bilabrin, on 05/07/2008, -2/+2Drugs are bad mmmkay, nevermind that drug laws do more to destroy famies than drug use and tha rehab is much more effective.
- thanakar, on 05/07/2008, -18/+16No, a family wasted by the rash judgement of a 19 yr old convict.
- fluidfoundation, on 05/07/2008, -6/+118I'm gonna tell you a secret. I'd do her.
- briguymaine, on 05/07/2008, -4/+8wow, that made me laugh out loud. thanks!
- Abomonog, on 05/07/2008, -9/+8Yeah she looks better today than she did 32 years ago.
- alpha19, on 05/07/2008, -1/+19I was thinking the exact opposite.
- timusca, on 05/07/2008, -0/+9Really? Because she looks like this today :
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photo ...- ohgr, on 05/07/2008, -1/+15still, she's not bad looking, for a 53 year old woman
- leerayIG88, on 05/07/2008, -1/+2"Bam bam bam bam bam! Wanna take it from here Bam Bam?"
"Bam Bam: Bam bam bam bam bam! You wanna take it from here Emeril?"
"Emeril: Bam! "- timusca, on 05/07/2008, -1/+1Family Guy FTW
- leerayIG88, on 05/07/2008, -1/+2"Bam bam bam bam bam! Wanna take it from here Bam Bam?"
- CSharpSauce, on 05/07/2008, -1/+1I have a thing for the older ladies... so yeah i'd still tap that
- ohgr, on 05/07/2008, -1/+15still, she's not bad looking, for a 53 year old woman
- GarrettAren, on 05/07/2008, -23/+9Please sign the petition http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/freesusanlefevr ... and of course, Digg the story. Do the crime, do the time? - How about I give you life for being a dumbass... er.. douchebag
- Abomonog, on 05/07/2008, -5/+2Why? She is a dead woman walking and no petition will change that. Her life is over. At this point the judicial anger is so hot that a petition will only make it harder on her. As it is she is most likely in the hole and will remain so for at least the next 6 months. Sending a petition at this point will only extend that time.
- DangerMouse9, on 05/07/2008, -1/+5You make me wish I could reach through my monitor and smack the ***** out of you. When the state decides to kill someone, are they harsher because of the people standing outside asking for a stay of execution?
For *****'s sake, just when I think people can't get any stupider you go and make another post. - utahnkid, on 05/07/2008, -0/+5Are you being sarcastic?? Thats easily the most asinine thing I've read on here all day...
"At this point the judicial anger is so hot that a petition will only make it harder on her"??? What does that even mean?? The judicial anger is so hot? Do you personally know the prosecuting attorneys? - Niightwitch, on 05/08/2008, -0/+1" As it is she is most likely in the hole and will remain so for at least the next 6 months." In the hole?? You've been watching too many prison movies.
- DangerMouse9, on 05/07/2008, -1/+5You make me wish I could reach through my monitor and smack the ***** out of you. When the state decides to kill someone, are they harsher because of the people standing outside asking for a stay of execution?
- posermobile, on 05/07/2008, -4/+4I don't see what her original crime was, but it got her 10-20 years on drug charges. Then she escaped from jail a year into her sentence and we are supposed to want her to be free now? Why? Because she looks pretty in her mugshot 25 years ago? It doesnt work that way.
- utahnkid, on 05/07/2008, -2/+5No, because she has a husband and family to take care of. Because she's a mature women now and was only a teenager at the time of her crime. Because our drug laws are so f***** in in so many ways.
- Diggalicious3, on 05/07/2008, -0/+3Yeah, we really need to be less harsh on heroin dealers. She was only pulling down $2000 a week back then. Give her a break.
- cutething, on 05/07/2008, -1/+3Really, Abomonog? Is the judicial system so hot-headed and uninterested in reason that they will persecute someone more forcefully because they are angered? In any event, I signed it. A law that is applied without consideration of circumstance and character is unconscionable. Suppose she assumed a new identity, killed people, remained involved in drug dealing/trade/whatever, etc.? Should the punishment be the same? The other issue is why she was imprisoned in the first place. A ten year sentence for a nineteen year old for drug charges is pretty stiff. Granted, it's not clear what exactly those charges were or what her crime was. Given the United State's drug laws and enforcement of those laws, it's likely that this was a sentence of questionable fairness and justness to begin with. That doesn't excuse escape, but it certainly makes the case for having her commuted. Give her community service, have her acknowledge her wrong and repay her debt *appropriately.* A ten year OR lifetime sentence was and is a waste and a tragedy for this woman.
- utahnkid, on 05/07/2008, -2/+1Reply to this comment..
Works, I promise.
- utahnkid, on 05/07/2008, -2/+1Reply to this comment..
- Abomonog, on 05/07/2008, -5/+2Why? She is a dead woman walking and no petition will change that. Her life is over. At this point the judicial anger is so hot that a petition will only make it harder on her. As it is she is most likely in the hole and will remain so for at least the next 6 months. Sending a petition at this point will only extend that time.
- Atlatal, on 05/07/2008, -29/+8She was making $2,000.00 a WEEK (in 1970's dollars) by selling Heroin!
I hope she rots in jail!- Maynza, on 05/07/2008, -3/+15So you hate her for being a GOOD heroin dealer? Not because she was a heroin dealer?
- Awspire, on 05/07/2008, -4/+5I think the he's referring to the amount of heroin she was moving per week. Thats an awful lot of heroin she was supplying. She may have escaped the law and went on to lead a good life, but how about all the people she suppled heroin to? Because of her participation in the distribution of one of the most addictive drugs, she probably destroyed the lives of thousands. So, screw her. I bet her kids are drug free, but think about all the kids she introduced to a life of endless addiction, and all the families that were destroyed cause of her actions.
- rossisdead, on 05/07/2008, -4/+8Don't blame the dealer for the irresponsibility of the buyer.
- thugok, on 05/07/2008, -7/+3Both are equally responsible.
- rossisdead, on 05/07/2008, -4/+8Don't blame the dealer for the irresponsibility of the buyer.
- Awspire, on 05/07/2008, -4/+5I think the he's referring to the amount of heroin she was moving per week. Thats an awful lot of heroin she was supplying. She may have escaped the law and went on to lead a good life, but how about all the people she suppled heroin to? Because of her participation in the distribution of one of the most addictive drugs, she probably destroyed the lives of thousands. So, screw her. I bet her kids are drug free, but think about all the kids she introduced to a life of endless addiction, and all the families that were destroyed cause of her actions.
- crimpshrine, on 05/07/2008, -2/+10And we all know how honest police are with details on a bust.
- Bootes, on 05/07/2008, -6/+6Was she forcing anyone to take heroin? If not then I don't care. I don't have the full details of the case, but unless she was doing something more than just selling something why should the be against the law?
- andymadigan, on 05/07/2008, -1/+4Tobacco companies didn't force anyone to smoke either.
- Divals, on 05/07/2008, -2/+2No, but they lie about the effects of smoking. If they told the truth I doubt anyone would smoke.
- Jashobeam5, on 05/07/2008, -0/+1Read the back of a pack of cigarettes lately? They do tell the truth, but people still want to kill themselves with lung cancer. I just don't get it.
- wes00mertes, on 05/07/2008, -0/+2And yet tobacco companies are still thriving.
- Divals, on 05/07/2008, -2/+2No, but they lie about the effects of smoking. If they told the truth I doubt anyone would smoke.
- andymadigan, on 05/07/2008, -1/+4Tobacco companies didn't force anyone to smoke either.
- Maynza, on 05/07/2008, -3/+15So you hate her for being a GOOD heroin dealer? Not because she was a heroin dealer?
- joltcola, on 05/07/2008, -26/+25i saw this last week. but lets just recycle the same stories.
- RealmDown, on 05/07/2008, -1/+15Ok, but remember, you requested it.
- mxmj, on 05/07/2008, -1/+5http://digg.com/world_news/War_on_Drugs_Destroys_Y ...
- DangerMouse9, on 05/07/2008, -4/+8I did not see this last week, thanks for posting it.
- sremick, on 05/07/2008, -3/+2See those numbers at the bottom of Digg? Those are pages.
Learn to click them to go back and catch the stories you missed.- DangerMouse9, on 05/07/2008, -0/+1It must be nice to have that kind of time where you can click back through 10+ pages every other day and still be able to contribute to the responses.
- sremick, on 05/07/2008, -3/+2See those numbers at the bottom of Digg? Those are pages.
- chillmandan, on 05/07/2008, -8/+120I gotta say, although she broke the law she obviously seemed to be a law abiding citizen raising a family. The person who tipped off the police is kind of a dick.
- matschig, on 05/07/2008, -3/+26Aren't they always?
- RealmDown, on 05/07/2008, -2/+12In school, we called them "tattletales"
The rewards were more appropriate too. Right after school.- Lixie, on 05/07/2008, -1/+8We call them NARCS.
- raynar, on 05/07/2008, -5/+3In the real world, we call them "helpful".
- Jashobeam5, on 05/07/2008, -0/+3We have no idea what illegal things this woman has done since escaping jail, but diggers want to say she is a perfect wife and mother. Why are they assuming because she was a herion dealer over 30 years ago, she is suddenly a great citizen? It's a good thing she was turned in.
- RealmDown, on 05/07/2008, -2/+12In school, we called them "tattletales"
- briguymaine, on 05/07/2008, -6/+3it's like an episode of Desperate Housewives. or so I've heard, not that I watch the show or anything.
- mcquitty, on 05/07/2008, -1/+6Seems to me, she got caught because she used her fingerprint to obtain a driver's license at the California DMV.
I didn't see any mention of someone reporting her in this story.- chillmandan, on 05/07/2008, -0/+4The report said there was an anonymous tip
- raynar, on 05/07/2008, -0/+1She hasnt had a license since the mid 90's since she got her first one of a SSN she made up.
- JJ2K1, on 05/07/2008, -5/+2This should be a wake up call to the rest of the country. You really want a Real ID card? And since when does a state have the right to treat its own citizens like criminals and finger print them because they want to earn the privilage of driving a vehicle legally? To hell with them, there is no bargaining with my privacy just so I can drive.
- Diggalicious3, on 05/07/2008, -0/+2Honestly, why shouldn't criminals have the privilege of driving? Its not like they broke the law.
- Jashobeam5, on 05/07/2008, -1/+1LOL
- Diggalicious3, on 05/07/2008, -0/+2Honestly, why shouldn't criminals have the privilege of driving? Its not like they broke the law.
- wattersm, on 05/07/2008, -0/+2That person needs a pair of cement shoes. What I don't understand is if you escaped from prison, why would you tell ANYBODY? I would take that secret to my grave.
- JargonScott, on 05/07/2008, -4/+1Other than that thing about her completely lying ot her husband and family about who she is, and even her name. But yeah, from the 1 picture of her in the article and the dumbfounded quote of the husband, we can clearly ascertain she's a good citizen and the tipper is a dick. o.O
- mal1964, on 05/07/2008, -4/+1The person probably has been extorting money from her for years. I'm only guessing but if true, She has had a horrible life.
- jjustice, on 05/07/2008, -0/+2She broke the law, but she's a law-abiding citizen. You want to rephrase that to be a bit more precise?
- HayString, on 05/08/2008, -0/+1Isn't the purpose of prison supposed to be to reform people? Well, she obviously got all the reforming she needed and was able to carry on as a law-abiding citizen for almost 25 years, so what's the point of punishing her now?
- matschig, on 05/07/2008, -3/+26Aren't they always?
- FearFactory, on 05/07/2008, -15/+5You can run but you can't hide.
- notoneofus, on 05/07/2008, -2/+6Actually, sounds like she hid pretty well for quite some time.
- TheVirus, on 05/07/2008, -1/+7You can run and you can hide. But not for 33 years.
- notoneofus, on 05/07/2008, -2/+6Actually, sounds like she hid pretty well for quite some time.
- CSharpSauce, on 05/07/2008, -6/+73Isn't the point of jail to rehabilitate people going in the wrong direction in life? It seems like she changed, and is now a helpful person in society (a mother) jail would only be an unneccairy burden on taxpayers, and her family.
- Handcannons, on 05/07/2008, -5/+13No, the point of jail is to punish people for crimes and keep them away from the rest of society. Long ago the point was to try and rehabilitate inmates but that almost never works (look at the recidivism rate) and no one even pretends it's about rehabilitation anymore.
It does seem like she's changed, maybe the judge will reduce or eliminate her sentence or maybe Arnie will commute it and she'll go free.- DangerMouse9, on 05/07/2008, -1/+4I can see punishing someone for crimes with victims, but I don't fully understand it when they are victim-less crimes.
Talking about the recidivism rate, how easy do you think it is to make it when no one will hire you for a crime you already served your time for? Do you think you can easily get a decent job? Like it or not, many places hold prejudices against former inmates (hell, look at your blood lust every time you read about someone that broke the law on here) and will not hire them. - midejitsu, on 05/07/2008, -0/+3Arnie can’t do *****. She escaped from a Michigan Jail and that’s where she’s going back to.
- DangerMouse9, on 05/07/2008, -1/+4I can see punishing someone for crimes with victims, but I don't fully understand it when they are victim-less crimes.
- Abomonog, on 05/07/2008, -2/+15Not in America. Jail here is just a storage facility.
- jezsik, on 05/07/2008, -0/+5Or training facility.
- DephexTwin, on 05/07/2008, -0/+4It's like Public Storage, only the contents sexually assault each other.
- rolf, on 05/07/2008, -1/+2It depends on the crime - I often thought jail did the opposite; make criminals worse because they are going to a votech of crime to learn from fellow inmates. It doesn't have to be like that, but how the system is set up.
But it's not just for rehabilitation. In violent crimes or crimes with victims, it's to provide the victim, friends, and/or family closure that justice is being served. It's also to protect the rest of society. In all crimes, it's to punish, to warn others from doing it. (White collar crimes would be a legitimate target).
Since I don't know exactly what this woman did and the article is light on details, I can't say whether she should go to jail or not. If it were for drugs (not dealing), I would be less inclined to send her back than if it were, say, drug related violence.- aclyon20, on 05/07/2008, -1/+0very good point, but remember she broke out of prison and I think that would be something that would cause a punishment as an example for other people. I don't really agree with sending her back, but it is most likely going to happen. The criminal justice system will never satisfy everyone at the same time.
- uziko, on 05/07/2008, -2/+4Uh, no, the purpose of jail is for punishment. If it was about rehabilitation then the facilities would be nice and there would be counselors and therapists. Making someones life suck doesn't make then any better as people, in fact it does the opposite.
I'm not saying it's good or bad i'm just saying those are the facts, are you are one ignorant ***** to think jail is about "rehabilitation".
- Handcannons, on 05/07/2008, -5/+13No, the point of jail is to punish people for crimes and keep them away from the rest of society. Long ago the point was to try and rehabilitate inmates but that almost never works (look at the recidivism rate) and no one even pretends it's about rehabilitation anymore.
- Shao00, on 05/07/2008, -6/+24 I wonder who the phone call was from? Maby the husband thought this was a lot cheaper than a divorce.
- Jashobeam5, on 05/07/2008, -1/+1Could that be why he is playing innocent now?
- matschig, on 05/07/2008, -23/+3Wouldn't mind having my dick in her kidney
- enchanterku, on 05/07/2008, -1/+5Seems kinda strange... I'm sitting at work not one mile from where that correctional facility is. It's now a maximum security women's prison.
- wexmajor, on 05/07/2008, -6/+41There is no justice here, only law enforcement.
Isn't the government supposed to care about families or something? Soccer moms are so inconsistent.- RealmDown, on 05/07/2008, -1/+26"There is no justice here, only law enforcement."
Excellent. - JargonScott, on 05/07/2008, -3/+1No, the government should not be the one to care about this family. This is all her fault for creating this house of cards over 30 years that would eventually bite her in the ass. Why does everyone here think of her as the innocent? Did she forget she escaped prison over those 30 years or something?
The only thing I'm upset about is that it took 32 years to find an escapee. Luck of the draw I guess.- Jashobeam5, on 05/07/2008, -0/+1Apparently a lot of diggers have commited crimes and they are mad some people get caught.
- RealmDown, on 05/07/2008, -1/+26"There is no justice here, only law enforcement."
- fr3ddie, on 05/07/2008, -16/+23legalize all drugs.
- jun2san, on 05/07/2008, -11/+15Yes!! Let's legalize Heroine and Meth!! Also, let's make it easy for young curious kids to have access to these drugs so they can get hooked early on thus help the economy! ***** the economic stimulus package...this is a better idea!
- Bootes, on 05/07/2008, -3/+11If someone wants to be stupid why should we stop them. We can teach the dangers of things, but as long as they're only hurting themselves I see no reason why the government should force them to stop.
- DangerMouse9, on 05/07/2008, -1/+8Actually, the drugs can then be regulated and taxed. The drug cartels would cease to exist making the streets a little safer. We wouldn't have to spend as much money fighting the drug lords. There wouldn't be that much of an increase in the number of people doing drugs. Money wasted jailing the users could be spent on going after the real criminals. Jails wouldn't be as over crowded and we'd need less jails.
I could list more positives from legalizing drugs and ways to deal with some of the negatives, but why bother? - jumbalia, on 05/07/2008, -1/+4tell me jun2san; do you think its easier to get morphine or heroine? Both are basically the same drug, but one is dangerous and illegal (more dangerous because its illegal), and the other is regulated, controlled, and quite difficult to obtain.
Legalization doesn't mean giving people freedom to use drugs whenever - it means having the law regulate and monitor production and distribution rather than leaving it up to organized crime. As long as there is demand, the market will always maintain supply; no matter the laws. - centerblack, on 05/07/2008, -0/+1jun2sun, by your logic, everyone born after 1933 must be an alcoholic.
- Jashobeam5, on 05/07/2008, -1/+2Pretty close.
- Zippo, on 05/07/2008, -2/+2Ah, the typical American attitude towards the health of others.
Universal health care: "why should I help pay for the health of others?"
Drugs: "why stop people from being stupid and taking drugs"
Ugh *facepalm*...
- jun2san, on 05/07/2008, -11/+15Yes!! Let's legalize Heroine and Meth!! Also, let's make it easy for young curious kids to have access to these drugs so they can get hooked early on thus help the economy! ***** the economic stimulus package...this is a better idea!
- tEhKewleSt, on 05/07/2008, -12/+6Um....yea...so....um....this was on the front page last week.
- wes00mertes, on 05/07/2008, -3/+15 days ago. Quit whining. I've seen identical stories within 30 minutes or so make the front page. On the same front page...
- tEhKewleSt, on 05/08/2008, -0/+15 days ago from Wednesday = Last Friday = Last week
Just saying...
- tEhKewleSt, on 05/08/2008, -0/+15 days ago from Wednesday = Last Friday = Last week
- wes00mertes, on 05/07/2008, -3/+15 days ago. Quit whining. I've seen identical stories within 30 minutes or so make the front page. On the same front page...
- ssawyer06, on 05/07/2008, -3/+60You can debate drug policy, but clearly the reason this is on the front page is milf factor.
- Nougat, on 05/07/2008, -1/+11What people are failing to realize is that that picture is from 32 years ago. Pre-milf, as it were.
- mercuryfalling, on 05/07/2008, -0/+3Thanks, for kill the dream!
- DephexTwin, on 05/07/2008, -0/+2Sorry, Borat.
- zelzin, on 05/07/2008, -1/+3Clicky link. Scroll down. Milf.
Yay for actually reading the article.
- mercuryfalling, on 05/07/2008, -0/+3Thanks, for kill the dream!
- toonworld, on 05/07/2008, -2/+7even today she looks pretty good.... she's a FILF... Fugitive I'd Like to....
- Nougat, on 05/07/2008, -1/+11What people are failing to realize is that that picture is from 32 years ago. Pre-milf, as it were.
- tmaiden, on 05/07/2008, -2/+1Man that's beat.
- Keitosha, on 05/07/2008, -1/+1Ehmmm Malory Knox?
- NickyBatts, on 05/07/2008, -6/+14I'd hit it.
- Vvolf, on 05/07/2008, -0/+1You did look at the pic at the bottom of what she looks like now right?!
- lmhiatt, on 05/07/2008, -0/+14happiest mugshot i've ever seen.
- AirBallistic, on 05/07/2008, -0/+3happier than this NBA player? http://www.mugshots.com/IMAGES/PP__scottie_pippen. ...
- nickcozy, on 05/07/2008, -17/+3She's still a criminal,let her spend the next 32 years in prison.
- coustoe, on 05/07/2008, -1/+11what was the original drug offense? 20 years is a long time for a MINOR drug offense. I think were missing part of the story here.
- thanakar, on 05/07/2008, -0/+5Exactly, and this was 32 years ago. What were the drug laws back then and what did someone have to do in order to warrant a 10 to 20 yr sentence?
- Thepack1138, on 05/07/2008, -0/+2heroin with intent to sell.
- D14BL0, on 05/07/2008, -1/+4I think you missed the part where she ESCAPED FROM PRISON.
- jerrycan, on 05/07/2008, -1/+9She was pretty hot, in a drug mule skanky sort of way...
- AdmiralHalsey, on 05/07/2008, -5/+31Step 1: Apply some common sense
Step 2: Leave her the ***** alone- thanakar, on 05/07/2008, -13/+5What would you do if you found out that nice law abiding citizen living next door to you was an escaped murderer who has been on the lam for 30 years? She did a crime 32 years ago that warranted a 10 to 20 yr conviction. Not suprised someone turned her in.
- aladrin, on 05/07/2008, -3/+3If that person hadn't broken a law since after they escaped and got fake papers? I dunno what I'd do, but I'd feel like a real ass for turning her in, if I chose that. If she's not breaking the law NOW, that's what the jailtime was supposed to make happen. Sounds like it happened.
- RAEP, on 05/07/2008, -3/+14She didn't murder anyone, she sold drugs. Drugs =/= murder. ***** manditory minimum sentencing.
- Bootes, on 05/07/2008, -3/+3She didn't murder someone. I agree we don't fully know what her crime was and need to know more to really make a decision, but there is a large difference between selling drugs and murdering someone.
- greenamp, on 05/07/2008, -3/+6A drug conviction IS NOT COMPARABLE to murder. In now way, shape, or form should a drug conviction warrant a 10-20 year prison sentence in the first place.
This situation proves two things:
1) Our drug laws are complete and utter *****.
2) Our prison system in some cases is a detriment to society, since had she been in jail, she most likely would not have reformed.- JargonScott, on 05/07/2008, -0/+1There are plenty of drug convictions that warrant it. One that happened recently in my area is a couple with a working meth lab in their house, while having small children present. Not everyone arrested for possession is a mid-20's that's just experimenting.
- citizen782, on 05/07/2008, -2/+1I'd shake her hand and take her out for a drink.
- RAEP, on 05/07/2008, -4/+11Common sense doesn't exist where the US judicial system treads.
- xhazerdusx, on 05/07/2008, -3/+2Beautiful.
- thanakar, on 05/07/2008, -13/+5What would you do if you found out that nice law abiding citizen living next door to you was an escaped murderer who has been on the lam for 30 years? She did a crime 32 years ago that warranted a 10 to 20 yr conviction. Not suprised someone turned her in.
- rivalius13, on 05/07/2008, -0/+6She could choose any name she wanted and she choose Marie Walsh? Maxine Power would have been far better.
- crimpshrine, on 05/07/2008, -1/+17Really sounds like most "drug busts" they exaggerate every detail, and then in the process ruin more lives by the policies in place.
What is really ironic is if she did serve her full sentence, odds would NOT be in her favor of being a law abiding home maker at the moment. - thingnumber2, on 05/07/2008, -4/+9Nobody told me mom was arrested.
Man.- mitch3323, on 05/07/2008, -0/+1am i the only one who thought this was funny!!?!?!?!?!
- Niightwitch, on 05/08/2008, -0/+1Yes.
- mitch3323, on 05/07/2008, -0/+1am i the only one who thought this was funny!!?!?!?!?!
- felixleighton, on 05/07/2008, -12/+5http://digg.com/world_news/War_on_Drugs_Destroys_Y ...
Dupe.- BetterOffEd, on 05/07/2008, -1/+4THANK YOU. Even though this story was covered by almost every news outlet, 'numberneal' still used the EXACT SAME LINK. And it's not like it was some obscure dupe either. The original already appeared on the FRONT PAGE 6 days ago, and currently has over 1900 Diggs.
Do the right thing. Digg up the correct posting. Fight poor Digg etiquette.
(You can Digg me down now.)
.- felixleighton, on 05/08/2008, -0/+1Congrats Diggtards, your collective silencing will get this story frontpaged again. Ignorance is bliss right?
- BetterOffEd, on 05/07/2008, -1/+4THANK YOU. Even though this story was covered by almost every news outlet, 'numberneal' still used the EXACT SAME LINK. And it's not like it was some obscure dupe either. The original already appeared on the FRONT PAGE 6 days ago, and currently has over 1900 Diggs.
- betacmag4u, on 05/07/2008, -5/+6Drug law enforcement is unpatriotic...... people who support allocating resources to this instead of anti-terrorism are virtually "in-bed" with the well know terrorist Osama Bin Laden.
- MMaster23, on 05/07/2008, -4/+11Hmm these charges don't expire?
I tought there was something like the Statute of limitation..
Making most crimes expire after 15 ~ 25 years of no results.
Only murder crimes don't expire. Even rape expires...
(I dunno, not american...)- ShempRider, on 05/07/2008, -0/+13A statute of limitations doesn't apply after conviction.
- faskill, on 05/07/2008, -0/+5Yup, basically there is a time limit of how long the state/feds have to bring the charges... once they've been filed or a conviction is upheld, statute of limitation no longer applies.
- Bootes, on 05/07/2008, -0/+3She was already convicted and escaped from prison.
- drvcr, on 05/07/2008, -0/+3Statute of limitations only applies if you haven't been caught or the state does not have enough evidence or reason to charge you with a crime.
Once you are convicted, statute of limitations does not apply.
Most crimes actually expire within 5-10 years. I think in most states rape has a 10 year statute of limitations- bovilexia, on 05/07/2008, -0/+3also first degree murder doesn't have a statue of limitations.
- mcquitty, on 05/07/2008, -0/+4That, and I don't believe there's a statute of limitation on escape. At this point, her biggest issue is the escape. It will make the original sentence seem small.
- ShempRider, on 05/07/2008, -0/+13A statute of limitations doesn't apply after conviction.
- ccbbb23, on 05/07/2008, -1/+3This is old for a news story. For discussion about the act or the system, then OK if retitled.
- biged123543, on 05/07/2008, -9/+8http://digg.com/world_news/War_on_Drugs_Destroys_Y ...
old news- d1a1s1, on 05/07/2008, -4/+2Even your post about it being old news.....is old news.
- skrabak, on 05/07/2008, -6/+5Did she become a hippie after seeing the wild untamed hair of Joe Nameth, then go destroy a evil old millionaire's germ warfare lab after which spent the next 32 years on the lam? And is she the mother of a lovable fat idiot bald man?
- matschig, on 05/07/2008, -2/+5What the hell are you rambling about?
- skrabak, on 05/07/2008, -2/+6Does no one here remember the Simpsons? Homer's mother, she became a hippie, destroyed Mr. Burn's germ warfare lab, and was forced to run from the law for the majority of his life.
- modex, on 05/07/2008, -4/+5yes i remember, and dugg you up.
unfortunately most diggers are obtuse faggots - Tyrghast, on 05/07/2008, -0/+3@ modex:
i don't own a TV and when I did, I rarely watched the simpsons. Sorry, we can't all be die-hard fans of the same show.
- modex, on 05/07/2008, -4/+5yes i remember, and dugg you up.
- Bilabrin, on 05/07/2008, -0/+1Okay, now that we know it's a decent comment but it's still a bit obscure...
- skrabak, on 05/07/2008, -1/+1I'll admit that, but if you only knew how my daily life is pretty much made up of obscure references to things.
- halfabean, on 05/07/2008, -0/+1I agree, this program "The Simpsons" you reference is totally obsucre.
- Bilabrin, on 05/07/2008, -0/+1418 braodcast episodes in total.
- skrabak, on 05/07/2008, -2/+6Does no one here remember the Simpsons? Homer's mother, she became a hippie, destroyed Mr. Burn's germ warfare lab, and was forced to run from the law for the majority of his life.
- matschig, on 05/07/2008, -2/+5What the hell are you rambling about?
- RAEP, on 05/07/2008, -3/+6every repost is a repost repost.
- mountchuck, on 05/07/2008, -3/+1Was she found with Mona Stevens, Penelope Olsen, and Muddie Mae Suggins by any chance? I think I know somebody who is looking for them.
- Clodhopper, on 05/07/2008, -1/+0All 1 person. Spill it Muddy Mae or we're callin' the cops.
- Blade2000, on 05/07/2008, -1/+8Kind of sad. However, if I was her cell mate and had to sit 20 years in jail for the same crime she committed (while she escaped and was living the good life) you bet your ass I would love to see her back in the slammer. Just a matter of perspective.
- willywong, on 05/07/2008, -1/+3Just because you're too lazy to get off your ass and escape.
- DroppedGT, on 05/07/2008, -0/+1Lol sarcasm... or is it? o.0
- willywong, on 05/07/2008, -1/+3Just because you're too lazy to get off your ass and escape.
- warholsbluecat, on 05/07/2008, -2/+5Finally got you Simpson...
- exscind, on 05/07/2008, -1/+2Well, I got it anyway. Dugg!
- thedogfatherx, on 05/07/2008, -2/+6Well she has to be punished is some way. Thats the law and everybody has to abide by it. However, at this point in her life jail obviously doesn't look like it would help anyone. There should be some alternative way to punish her instead of sending her to jail. I hope the judge uses some common sense.
- citizen782, on 05/07/2008, -5/+3She doesn't need any more punishment than the year she served. She "walked out". That's far from a calculated escape plan.
- republicker, on 05/07/2008, -3/+2So if the there was a law that said that everyone had to wear their jeans on their head and hop around on one leg, would you do it.? Of course you would because your a slave. Victimless crimes are a ridiculous abuse of human rights.
- Niightwitch, on 05/08/2008, -0/+2I'd do it even if there wasn't a law.
- Synn, on 05/07/2008, -2/+2Wow...you really a sheep aren't you?
- kenplaysviola, on 05/07/2008, -0/+2I agree. Keep it simple like a monetary fine, and/or community service. No need to put her in the slammer since it's obvious she proved that she is a functional member of society.
- jamesmudgett, on 05/07/2008, -3/+2some bull *****
- mercuryfalling, on 05/07/2008, -1/+1010 to 20 years for drugs?
WTF- republicker, on 05/07/2008, -2/+5You know the country is on a downslide when you get more time for smoking crack then you do for molesting kids.
- Rendonsmug, on 05/07/2008, -2/+3By smoking crack you mean being a high-level heroin dealer.
- wattersm, on 05/07/2008, -0/+1Like level 60?
- Rendonsmug, on 05/07/2008, -2/+3By smoking crack you mean being a high-level heroin dealer.
- bovilexia, on 05/07/2008, -0/+4note to self: don't sell heroin to an undercover cop
- willywong, on 05/07/2008, -2/+2There are consumer laws that prevent you from discriminating like that unfortunately.
- DJNephilim, on 05/07/2008, -1/+2Actually no, as a small business owner, you have the right to refuse service for any reason.
- willywong, on 05/11/2008, -0/+1So you mean I didn't have to sell those nuclear bomb plans to those arabs after all????
- DJNephilim, on 05/07/2008, -1/+2Actually no, as a small business owner, you have the right to refuse service for any reason.
- willywong, on 05/07/2008, -2/+2There are consumer laws that prevent you from discriminating like that unfortunately.
- republicker, on 05/07/2008, -2/+5You know the country is on a downslide when you get more time for smoking crack then you do for molesting kids.
- hadak, on 05/07/2008, -1/+2How the HELL did she get out of there? I drive past it regularly...and it's got some MASSIVE fences on it. An inner fence, with razorblade on the top, an outer fence with razorblade on the bottom and top, guard towers posted at regular intervals, with vehicles patrolling between the fences. It would take a superhuman to get out of there.
- Clodhopper, on 05/07/2008, -0/+6It wasn't a maximum security prison back then...
- ASSASSYN360, on 05/07/2008, -1/+4How much you want to bet that the person who tipped of the police is "the OTHER woman!"
- NikoKun, on 05/07/2008, -1/+10The law and judges REALLY need to consider the fact that she was a productive member of society, she was living a crime free life... Why does she need to go back to prison, for a drug charge which she already served a year on... Why does she need to go back, likely for life now, when she wasn't doing anything wrong besides hiding? Out of prison she probably would have remained a decent member of society, and contributed just like the rest of us. This is pointless and a waste of our money!
The justice system is in it for revenge, not justice or rehabilitation. No wonder our justice system is laughed at by the rest of the world.- Jashobeam5, on 05/07/2008, -0/+1How do you know she was productive and living a life free of crime? We have zero proof she has been innocent since her escape from prison.
- stanleyford, on 05/08/2008, -0/+1"Why does she need to go back to prison, for a drug charge which she already served a year on" -- Because she didn't serve her full sentence. You don't get to pick how much of your sentence you serve.
"Why does she need to go back, likely for life now, when she wasn't doing anything wrong besides hiding?" -- Because she broke the law.
"The justice system is in it for revenge, not justice or rehabilitation." -- Retribution is justice. Our justice system exists to punish criminals, not to rehabilitate them, and if only more judges remembered that, we'd be better off.
- rdotson, on 05/07/2008, -5/+6"LeFevre, 53, of Saginaw County, Mich., walked out of the Detroit House of Corrections, now known as the Robert Scott Correctional Facility, in February 1976 after serving the first year of her 10- to 20-year sentence on state drug charges."
***** the cops, ***** the god damn laws that put people in prison merely because of a god damn plant that people like to smoke or otherwise ingest. It is NOT the business of the government to tell me what I can or cannot put into my own body!- cmuwriter, on 05/07/2008, -0/+3It wasn't pot, it was heroin actually.
- sandiegodude, on 05/07/2008, -5/+5You don't get 10 to 20 years for a dime bag in your backpack. This story is incomplete. What was her initial charge? Drug charges could mean anything....
As much as I hate to see a family split, I can't honestly pass any kind of judgment without knowing the full details.
... Oh yea, and she was quite hittable back in the day apparently, but smug smirks in mug shots are always slightly disturbing.- Thepack1138, on 05/07/2008, -0/+4She was dealing heroin to an undercover cop.
- cgruber, on 05/07/2008, -0/+3I'm sure it was also because it was in Saginaw, MI which most people probably don't know is currently the 14th most dangerous citiy in the US. The judge probably was trying to make an example out of her..
- chaos7, on 05/07/2008, -3/+6perfect example of when the law is not always right. you don't ruin a family to put a woman in jail for something the she did many years ago.
- JargonScott, on 05/07/2008, -0/+2But then where do you draw the line? If I commit a crime now and get convicted, my family would be ruined. If it's my problem with a current crime, it's her problem with a past. Neither is the government's fault.
- momsshizzle, on 05/07/2008, -1/+1Most retarded comment of the day.
- blitzkriegpunk, on 05/07/2008, -2/+3Alright! One more win for the war on drugs! Who cares if those children grow up without a mother and end up getting teased in school about it. Who cares if her loving husband is now crushed and has to live with the stigma of his wife being a *gasp* dealer when she was 19 *gasp*!
JUSTICE PREVAILED! HUZZAH!- mcquitty, on 05/07/2008, -2/+2What other crimes should be forgiven? Is it just drugs? Is using forgivable, but not dealing? What about manufacturing/growing? How about the thefts to support the drug habit? Perhaps robberies, too? I mean, really?
I have known heroin addicts in my life. It will mess you up, cause you to do anything for your next high.
I have an idea... It's a simple one. Why not run for congress and change the law. Hell, make it your platform.
I have never used illegal drugs. I have known people who have. I say do one thing, either make smoking cigarettes illegal or allow smoking pot. I checked the CDC, and it turns out that smoking kills more people than pot. In fact, the CDC has reported zero deaths related to smoking pot (but it could have been involved in related deaths, like driving and being high).
However, she was a dealer and it wasn't pot she was dealing.- adamwho, on 05/07/2008, -0/+3Justice is NOT about absolutes.
- Jashobeam5, on 05/07/2008, -0/+1You have to be kidding. Justice is blind. That's what our judicial system is based on.
http://nces.ed.gov/programs/quarterly/vol_3/3_2/im ...
- Jashobeam5, on 05/07/2008, -0/+1You have to be kidding. Justice is blind. That's what our judicial system is based on.
- adamwho, on 05/07/2008, -0/+3Justice is NOT about absolutes.
- mcquitty, on 05/07/2008, -2/+2What other crimes should be forgiven? Is it just drugs? Is using forgivable, but not dealing? What about manufacturing/growing? How about the thefts to support the drug habit? Perhaps robberies, too? I mean, really?
- lolmacs, on 05/07/2008, -1/+3http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20080503- ...
More info on drug charges. Apparently she was a "medium-high" player in the drug world according to the cops, and she was caught selling heroin in a drug sting.- nezroy, on 05/07/2008, -1/+5"LeFevre said she was at her apartment Feb. 20, 1974, when the phone rang. The man on the other end, known only as Mark from Jackson, told her he wanted to make a deal.
Five spoons of heroin, 10 o'clock, in the parking lot of Luigi's pizzeria.
A few hours later, LeFevre, then 19, and friend Richie Anderson grabbed about 3 grams of heroin and headed out to make some money."
Oh yeah, she's a total heroin king-pin.
- nezroy, on 05/07/2008, -1/+5"LeFevre said she was at her apartment Feb. 20, 1974, when the phone rang. The man on the other end, known only as Mark from Jackson, told her he wanted to make a deal.
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