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Man Says JetBlue Airways Made Him Sit on Toilet for 3 Hours
usatoday.com — A New York City man is suing JetBlue Airways Corp. for more than $2 million because he says a pilot made him give up his seat to a flight attendant and sit on the toilet for more than three hours on a flight from California. Gokhan Mutlu says in court papers the pilot told him to "go 'hang out' in the bathroom".
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- KnifeOrSpoon, on 05/13/2008, -23/+89disgusting. I cannot believe the pilot would be so irresponsible to endanger a passenger in that regard. It makes me wonder if this is the only time this pilot has shown such recklessness with the lives of both crew and passengers.
- korvan504521, on 05/13/2008, -3/+49While the pilot is in his rights to order people around on the plane, he must also pay the price for endangering passengers through his orders. The key component of this law suit would have to be that there was no safety gear on the toilet, in addition to the fact that they won't let you use it during take off or landing. This guy has a very good case, although 2 million may be excessive.
- CryRightardCry, on 05/13/2008, -3/+56Actually I'd argue that a captain can make changes on his plane for safety, but that does not include rearranging seating due to a whiny staff member. And it definitely does NOT include forcing someone to sit in the bathroom, which CANNOT be part of SOP.
Jet Blue is stupid to have not paid this guy off before it hit the news. - greevar, on 05/13/2008, -7/+11$2 million is a reasonable amount if you consider the impact is has. It raised the profile of the case to where the media would take notice and that sends a message to the company that they have to remedy this issue rather than just sweep it under the rug.
- Archimboldo, on 05/13/2008, -9/+7If the $2 million was a fine to the airline, I guess I could stomach it. But this guy really doesn't deserve that much money in my opinion. He does deserve an apology, a fare refund and some kind of compensation, but $2 million is ridiculous.
- Egoist, on 05/13/2008, -4/+11Wait, what?
$2,000,000 to a big faceless government in the form of a fine -- great idea!
$2,000,000 to the guy who actually sat on a nasty airplane toilet for 3 hours -- horrible idea!
All discussions of excessiveness aside, your view of government makes me hope that you're not an active voter. - dkapuchino, on 05/13/2008, -4/+5Give the fine to charity. 2M Is an obscene amount of money for this. The courts shouldn't help you become filthy rich just because you had to sit on a crapper instead of a chair for a few hours.
- Archimboldo, on 05/13/2008, -7/+4Wow. That last is pretty sarcastic. The point is fixing the situation, not creating a worse one.
$2 million to some opportunist in exchange for sitting on a toilet. Heck, I'd sit on a toilet for 3 hours for $50,000. Fines will discourage airlines from this kind of stuff, but big awards to schmucks who have to (oh moan, woe is me) sit for 3 hours on a toilet encourages more opportunists to sue for ridiculous things. - Crake, on 05/13/2008, -1/+2Well, by awarding the damages to the plaintiff directly, they are providing an incentive for him and an attorney to bring the suit. If the case were less cut and dry (he has a good case), no lawyer would put the time, effort, or money into pressing the suit, unless the damages were substantial. In the end, he'll net 500k out of 2 million, which is fair because he was legitimately wronged by the pilot (the representative of JetBlue), he has suffered some unwarranted embarrassment by a JetBlue employee, and he his life was unnecessarily put in danger by one employee of JetBlue to satisfy the demands of another employee. Beyond that, he has been forced to resort to the courts to find justice, spending his time and energy to right the wrong. So I think 2 mil is pretty fair, actually.
- Egoist, on 05/13/2008, -4/+11Wait, what?
- Pzycho, on 05/13/2008, -2/+6The whole point of them having to pay $2mil is so that they will think twice about doing this again. The point of the lawsuit isn't getting the guy money he deserves, but punishing the airline enough so they don't endanger anyone else again without remembering that it could cost them 2 mil.
- Archimboldo, on 05/14/2008, -0/+1The punishment should fit the crime. If I was this guy, by now I would say, "Let's settle it out of court. I'll save your lawyers, my lawyers, the court system, and all their minions oodles of money. You apologize, give me, say, $5000, promise not to do it again, and I'll forgive you for my having 3 hours of sitting on a toilet. Fair?
Doesn't it bother you that our system is so bloated that it takes $2 million to setting something relatively simple and minor?
- Archimboldo, on 05/14/2008, -0/+1The punishment should fit the crime. If I was this guy, by now I would say, "Let's settle it out of court. I'll save your lawyers, my lawyers, the court system, and all their minions oodles of money. You apologize, give me, say, $5000, promise not to do it again, and I'll forgive you for my having 3 hours of sitting on a toilet. Fair?
- Archimboldo, on 05/13/2008, -9/+7If the $2 million was a fine to the airline, I guess I could stomach it. But this guy really doesn't deserve that much money in my opinion. He does deserve an apology, a fare refund and some kind of compensation, but $2 million is ridiculous.
- CryRightardCry, on 05/13/2008, -3/+56Actually I'd argue that a captain can make changes on his plane for safety, but that does not include rearranging seating due to a whiny staff member. And it definitely does NOT include forcing someone to sit in the bathroom, which CANNOT be part of SOP.
- Chompy, on 05/13/2008, -4/+115Something tells me that there is more to this story than what has been presented.
- cigawoot, on 05/13/2008, -0/+5agreed
- wastelander, on 05/13/2008, -2/+7My guess is that English is not the first language for Mr. Gokhan Mutlu and this was all a misunderstanding. He was never told to go sit on the toilet. The crew didn't even know he was there until the seat-belt light was turned on and he was told to leave the bathroom.
- davidrools, on 05/13/2008, -23/+16This guy got on the plane cheap with a "buddy pass" and ended up in the bathroom for what was probably much less than 3 hours. He should have either insisted on taking the jump seat or asking his so called "friend" to let him have the regular seat. Having done nothing at the time to try to improve his situation, he accepted what he got.
Regardless, the end result will be no more buddy passes, no more making exceptions getting the last seat on the plane, and more seemingly stupid rules and regulations that inconvenience us all.- MxM111, on 05/13/2008, -2/+15He did ask for the jump seat, but it is against policy to sit there. I guess it was not against policy to sit in the bathroom...
- dkapuchino, on 05/13/2008, -3/+9Sad to admit I was also one of the flock, digging up comments against the Pilot, without understanding that there are probably two sides to this story, and the guy looking to making 2M probably isn't the most objective person in this case.
- gbarger, on 05/13/2008, -7/+4It's definitely NOT a 3 hour flight. I fly from Kansas City to NY all the time, and it's 2 hours 40 mintes going to NY and 3 hours coming back. ...and Kansas City is closer to the NY than CA. So...I'm guessing the flight is about 6 hours or more. How would you like it?
- DooM, on 05/13/2008, -1/+14And his 'friend' was likely not on the plane at the time - I get buddy passes from my brother all the time, he doesn't have to be going with me for me to use it.
- surKaz, on 05/13/2008, -1/+3I think they said he tried to get on the jump seat... there's only so much one can do when you have people telling you can't do it. Also, how would his friend have given up his seat, he'd be stuck in the same predicament then...
I understand getting a "buddy pass" means less rights and privileges in the air... but... I guess they had to put him in a safe place somewhere.. instead of somewhere open in the aisles where he could hurt himself even more - bradleyland, on 05/13/2008, -3/+6You can't blame the victim here. The only person to blame for this mess is the pilot. The flight attendant didn't want to sit in the jump seat because it was "uncomfortable", which is just ridiculous. Had this guy made a stand, we'd be reading an entirely different story. He'd be escorted away by the Dept. of Homeland Security as soon as they arrived in NY.
- dkapuchino, on 05/13/2008, -0/+7A commericial airline is not the place to "make a stand".
You bite your lip until landing, then you sue.
- dkapuchino, on 05/13/2008, -0/+7A commericial airline is not the place to "make a stand".
- Spuy767, on 05/13/2008, -17/+11what's disgusting is that there are people these days who think that a minor inconvenience to them is worth such an exorbitant settlement. He was flying for free.
- MacEnvy, on 05/13/2008, -2/+6The point is to make JetBlue understand that this is NOT acceptable behavior and to make them think twice before letting it happen again. $20,000 probably wouldn't do that, but $2 mil just might.
- drvcr, on 05/13/2008, -2/+4False. Jet Blue buddy passes require you to a pay a fee, based on distance, for your ticket. You are also classified as the second lowest class of passengers.
Sitting in an airplane lavatory for 3+ plus hours, if his story is true, hardly constitutes a minor inconvenience. Way to completely understate his predicament. 2 million is excessive but he does have a case. - sliksta, on 05/13/2008, -2/+4I agree about the settlement asked being TOTALLY out of line. Why should sitting on a toilet for a few hours get someone compensated more than someone else's LIFETIME of work. Give him a fair amount like a few thousand. But instead of taking it from the company as if it was a human being, take it from the pilot(if he is at fault). People should be responsible for their own actions. Corporations are not people.
Of course, I do realize JetBlue should not let this happen. Management is responsible, but they are never held accountable for anything. That's why managers are the stupidest people on earth, because they can be.- dkapuchino, on 05/13/2008, -0/+5Individuals shouldn't be sued for actions they've done while on duty, unless those were criminal actions.
Being that there was nothing criminal here, it is definitely the companies responsibility. By sueing individuals, you open a pandoras box in which companies will start blaming employies for their policies.
- dkapuchino, on 05/13/2008, -0/+5Individuals shouldn't be sued for actions they've done while on duty, unless those were criminal actions.
- drmangrum, on 05/13/2008, -2/+17This is just one side of the story. A very far fetched story. I would wait to see what evidence he has to back that up. If this really happened, it should be fairly easy for the other passengers to corroborate his story. This seems more like a get rich quick scheme. Notice the amount of money is large, but small enough to where it might be cheaper to settle for 750k or so instead of fighting it in court and dealing with PR backlash.
- richbleak, on 05/13/2008, -9/+9Why didn't he just use instant transmission to get where he needed to go? He could have at least rode his Nimbus when it was revealed the plane was full. Do I have to think of everything?
- richbleak, on 05/13/2008, -2/+5Too soon?
- StolenLamp, on 05/14/2008, -0/+1DBFTW!
- SkippyDoorknob, on 05/13/2008, -1/+5Did they at least give him a magazine or a DS?
- lex0nyc, on 05/13/2008, -1/+3Didn't you see "Top Gun"? Those guys just don't care about anything!
- SillyRabbits, on 05/13/2008, -5/+10"disgusting. I cannot believe the pilot would be so irresponsible to endanger a passenger in that regard. It makes me wonder if this is the only time this pilot has shown such recklessness with the lives of both crew and passengers."
Could you be more over dramatic? There's almost zero chance of injury, let a lone threat to life. Out of the millions of flights a year, you can count on 1 hand the number of flights where turbulence was bad enough that seatbelts were even useful. Even in those cases we aren't talking about life threating instances. The airlines and FAA have trained you very well to believe you are in mortal danger if you unbuckle you seatbelt for a moment. You might want to try using a little common sense.- dkapuchino, on 05/13/2008, -1/+3Never stand in the way of a digger's rhetorics and demagogy.
- fargo182, on 05/13/2008, -2/+2Why don't you look up instances only a couple months ago, over the Rocky Mountains where alot of people got hurt due to "the fake turbulence".
- RearNakedChoke, on 05/14/2008, -3/+2You are SO right. Why do they even have seatbelts on airplanes? Clearly useless. They should remove them.
BTW, that's sarcasm.
- Tomchei, on 05/13/2008, -10/+5The guy didn't pay for a seat so he was effectively and technically a stowaway.
He was told there was no seat - jumpseat withstanding.
This is they kind of guy you give a gift horse to and he sues you because the horse has a tendency to kick at the fence. - warriorscot, on 05/13/2008, -0/+2Why couldn't the stewardess use the jumpseat for take off and landing?
- korvan504521, on 05/13/2008, -3/+49While the pilot is in his rights to order people around on the plane, he must also pay the price for endangering passengers through his orders. The key component of this law suit would have to be that there was no safety gear on the toilet, in addition to the fact that they won't let you use it during take off or landing. This guy has a very good case, although 2 million may be excessive.
- Miamisun, on 05/13/2008, -5/+40What happened when others needed to use the bathroom? Did he need to have the door shut the entire time? I would sue too.
- Chompy, on 05/13/2008, -0/+16The planes used for flights from New York to California flights are generally large enough to have more than one bathroom.
- cbegin, on 05/13/2008, -5/+1AW! DUDE! Did you have Cheerios for breakfast!?
- TheCash, on 05/13/2008, -1/+10I think its a crappy situation too, but 2 MILLION dollars?! Get the hell over yourself man. Ever had to spend two freakin days in an airport getting tossed from standby flight to standby flight like a hot potatoe because your original flight was delayed coming in and you missed your confirmed connecting flight? Sleeping in the terminal sucked, but then I thought about the people in places like Africa and India that have to hold on to the *outside*of a train just to get from point A to point B, and my suffering was all kind of relative and I lost the right to bitch about it.
- dkapuchino, on 05/13/2008, -2/+3I was once on a trip to the far east. Riding on the back of a shaky bus, on a hot and humid day, hanging halfway out of the window, all I could think was - "well, at least it's not sleeping in an airconditioned airport terminal".
It's a shame the US doesn't have mandatory military training. People would stop being such ***** cry babies. - unpluggedboy, on 05/13/2008, -1/+1Agreed. A few grand should be more than enough. That and a chance to beat the ***** out of this ass of a pilot. That'll probably be more satisfying.
- dkapuchino, on 05/13/2008, -2/+3I was once on a trip to the far east. Riding on the back of a shaky bus, on a hot and humid day, hanging halfway out of the window, all I could think was - "well, at least it's not sleeping in an airconditioned airport terminal".
- MikeDirntRulez, on 05/13/2008, -23/+235What a ***** way to fly.......
I bet he was POOPED after that flight....
I would be PISSED if that happened to me.......
Thanks, i'll be here all night!- Black6x, on 05/13/2008, -7/+13Did you make it a point to do this on all of the duplicate entries? Talk about being jealous about not submitting it first.
- SeaweedWater, on 05/13/2008, -10/+4Like a bathroom. hahaha.
- ryan83189, on 05/13/2008, -17/+6* Thanks i'll PEE here all night!
- getisboy, on 05/13/2008, -7/+6i see what you did there
- hauntedchippy, on 05/13/2008, -4/+16The airlines really do treat you like *****
- dkapuchino, on 05/13/2008, -4/+2Dumping you out over the ocean / Nevada Desert?
- jjustice, on 05/14/2008, -0/+1I was their number 1 son...and they treated me like number 2...
- pintomp3, on 05/13/2008, -7/+13man who drop watch in toilet have ***** time.
- trogdor282, on 05/13/2008, -1/+22On the toilet for three hours? Airplane food, am I right? It don't get no respect.
- punkcat, on 05/13/2008, -0/+8i've had just about enough of your Bathroom humor.
- coyote1284, on 05/13/2008, -1/+18So many Diggs, you must be FLUSHED with joy.
- dburr10085, on 05/13/2008, -0/+4I didn't know planes had a poop deck
- yingjai, on 05/13/2008, -1/+1that was quite lame
- TheFamousOne2, on 05/13/2008, -2/+54Easy money...
- lex0nyc, on 05/13/2008, -0/+3No kidding. It wouldn't have occurred to me to comply with the pilot's order and take the money later...
- samoan27, on 05/14/2008, -0/+1While it will never happen, one can always dream that we'll someday live in a world where if someone recieves free airfare and then demands $2 million because he had to spend it a few hours sitting in a bathroom that that person by law should be counter-sued then thrown in the street and publicly mocked. Honestly what evil befell him that's worth $2 million of increased airline fares to me.
- killdashnine, on 05/13/2008, -8/+57JetBlue's future is going down the toilet.
- Chompy, on 05/13/2008, -1/+9*****, that was a pretty crappy pun.
- SkippyDoorknob, on 05/13/2008, -4/+1He was pooped out by the end of the flight
- Jerky1312, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1I bet the JetBlue CEO had a hard time digesting this news.
- foofiejnooner, on 05/13/2008, -16/+57i find that hard to believe. especially if the pilot is unnamed in the lawsuit.
- TheR3dMenace, on 05/13/2008, -2/+21"unnamed" refers to the fact that he is not a party to the suit (i.e. he doesn't have money). Its just easier to sue the employer with deep pockets. The emplyer is liable for their employee's actions while performing their duties.
- dkapuchino, on 05/13/2008, -4/+4This shows the guy is after money and not justice. If you were after justice, you'd sue the pilot for a small ammount that he can afford (but will hurt his pockets), instead of going for the big fish.
- TheR3dMenace, on 05/13/2008, -2/+21"unnamed" refers to the fact that he is not a party to the suit (i.e. he doesn't have money). Its just easier to sue the employer with deep pockets. The emplyer is liable for their employee's actions while performing their duties.
- INDOAZZ, on 05/13/2008, -15/+9JET BLUE will be paying Big time for this mistake. One of many for that Airline.
- Tenlow, on 05/13/2008, -11/+3He didn't even pay for a ticket. He was told the plane was full but argued his way on anyways. He is more at fault than the airline. If he wasn't just out for a quick buck, I'd support his lawsuit. He did not get injured. There is no conflict. He didn't even get the pilot's name. Lawyers are the cancer that is killing this once great nation.
- Tenlow, on 05/13/2008, -4/+3I see I'm getting dugg down, and I don't know why. Maybe I'm wrong, it could be that the airline *is* at fault for letting this con man on the airplane. The correct course of action would have been to turn the plane around and force him off. Also, naming the pilot would make him look like less of a tool.
- drvcr, on 05/13/2008, -0/+5"He didn't even pay for a ticket. He was told the plane was full but argued his way on anyways. He is more at fault than the airline."
Where in the world did you get that information? How would someone argue their way on a full aircraft regulated by the FAA? Buddy pass users have to pay fees, albeit a small amount, nonetheless their travel is not free.
Quit pulling stuff out of your ass. Lawyers may be misguided souls, but they are not a cancer killing this great nation.
There are far greater threats retard.- sliksta, on 05/13/2008, -0/+3Misguided souls? I thought lawyers were lying crooks. And I do believe they are helping kill this nation. I have no problem with the rest of what you said but to defend the integrity of lawyers I don't understand.
Guess there have got to be some good ones, but most are just money-grubbing lying @$$####s from what I've seen.- drvcr, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1There are good ones and there are bad ones in every profession. I'm an ER resident right now and I can honestly say that I worry about some of my peers when it comes to treating patients.
The problem with the bad lawyers is that they are heavily placed in the media spotlight, especially in the fields of personal injury and entertainment. You can blame both the media and the money grubbing lawyers for this bias. You have to remember that the precedent of laws that guide this country are based on the work of the legal system and the lawyers that support it. I don't condone the misuse of the legal system, but I do feel that lawyers are an integral part of our society. How integral? I'm not sure, but just as I mentioned before the bad ones always received greater coverage than the cream of the crop and unfortunately it has negatively influenced america's perception of lawyers.
- drvcr, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1There are good ones and there are bad ones in every profession. I'm an ER resident right now and I can honestly say that I worry about some of my peers when it comes to treating patients.
- sliksta, on 05/13/2008, -0/+3Misguided souls? I thought lawyers were lying crooks. And I do believe they are helping kill this nation. I have no problem with the rest of what you said but to defend the integrity of lawyers I don't understand.
- Tenlow, on 05/13/2008, -11/+3He didn't even pay for a ticket. He was told the plane was full but argued his way on anyways. He is more at fault than the airline. If he wasn't just out for a quick buck, I'd support his lawsuit. He did not get injured. There is no conflict. He didn't even get the pilot's name. Lawyers are the cancer that is killing this once great nation.
- suzywang3000, on 05/13/2008, -14/+68oh come on, I'd have done it for a grand... $2 m, get real.
- pintomp3, on 05/13/2008, -4/+27a grand won't get a company to examine or change it's policies.
- dkapuchino, on 05/13/2008, -2/+5The bad publicity will.
- Elshar, on 05/13/2008, -1/+14And exactly what media outlet is going to pick up a lawsuit over $1k? When was the last time the national media picked up a story about a dude's car getting repo'd? Because that's worth way more than $1k :P
- dkapuchino, on 05/13/2008, -1/+1That's between you and your media. The country I live in, all prime time channels (Whether it's a commericial channel or the public broadcasting system) have special TV programs which are dedicated to exposing corruptions, injustices, heartbreaking stories, and investigative journalism.
- Elshar, on 05/13/2008, -1/+2We have those kind of stories too. That doesn't work too well here in the states. Pretty much the only thing that companies here respond to is cash. You take it away and they'll listen. Especially if you take away a ludicrous amount of it.
- dkapuchino, on 05/13/2008, -2/+1It shouldn't be the government's job to take away the cash from the companies, it should be the consumers. You're the one that should vote with your money. Same thing with the Media. If you'd rather watch American Idol over 60 minutes, these shows will have no effect.
- Elshar, on 05/13/2008, -1/+14And exactly what media outlet is going to pick up a lawsuit over $1k? When was the last time the national media picked up a story about a dude's car getting repo'd? Because that's worth way more than $1k :P
- koft, on 05/13/2008, -3/+4Who cares if they change their policies? I'm free to not book a flight with them.
- TheCash, on 05/13/2008, -0/+4Pretty sure its not company policy to make customers ride in the ***** champ. This was one guy who decided to be a douche apparently. And a flight attendant too. They have their own special seats built into the bulkhead... the hell did she need a passengers for?
- 1337Einstein, on 05/13/2008, -1/+1In that case let's praise this selfless man as he asks for rewards thousands of times greater than the damages inflicted on himself.
Get real, not only on the absurdity of believing that this was the airline's official policy, but also in your belief that 2 mil is some big hit to an airline.
- dkapuchino, on 05/13/2008, -2/+5The bad publicity will.
- uriman, on 05/13/2008, -1/+17there is a difference between consenting to do something and being forced to do something (e.g. sex for money and being raped anally and then sueing for compensation).
- dkapuchino, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1So If I get it you right
paying someone for sex - okay,
forcing something into someones anus - bad?
- dkapuchino, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1So If I get it you right
- munawarali2, on 05/13/2008, -4/+12He spent 3 hours in the air without a seatbelt. He could have been horribly injured in that time frame if they hit turbulence, embarassed by his seating and treatment, the smell was probably terrible, not to mention he was probably traumitized from ever flying again. Give me a break...that's an easy 2 million.
- suzywang3000, on 05/13/2008, -0/+6you wouldn't do that for $20k? Surely $100k...
- Harelin, on 05/13/2008, -0/+8I'd do it for the price of my plane ticket. It's a free ride. They should start offering it as a seating option.
- tacojohn48, on 05/13/2008, -0/+6I believe that would be American Airlines.
- Harelin, on 05/13/2008, -0/+8I'd do it for the price of my plane ticket. It's a free ride. They should start offering it as a seating option.
- Yazilliclick, on 05/13/2008, -1/+5He could have been but was not. Him suing for $2 million is ridiculous. Now if aviation authorities choose to fine the company for this practice for breaking rules that's one thing, but him, I don't see how he could possibly have grounds to sue for $2mil.
- Arxor, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1I know that sounds like a lot... but aviation authorities? Why should the FAA get the $2 mil? I can't say I trust them to spend it all that well.
- TheCash, on 05/13/2008, -0/+3Sounds like my last few trips on Grayhound... you see me suing anyone? 2 mil is a lawyer number, not a disgruntled passenger number.
- diggopolous, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1Jackie Chiles is that you?
- MrWhite7, on 05/13/2008, -2/+3You sue for 2 million, they settle for less. You sue for 20 thousand, they settle for less. Which number would you like the high end to be...
- suzywang3000, on 05/13/2008, -0/+6you wouldn't do that for $20k? Surely $100k...
- TheCash, on 05/13/2008, -0/+3Hell I'd have done it for a couple bags of peanuts and open bar service. They pack you in like cattle these days anyway, and I'm betting that bathroom had more leg room then his assigned seat to boot.
- pintomp3, on 05/13/2008, -4/+27a grand won't get a company to examine or change it's policies.
- tuntcickle, on 05/13/2008, -38/+15it seems pretty clear that this was an overbooked flight that this dude begged to get on to (probably weeped about a wedding he had to get to or something), and though it was unprofessional to let this dude on the plane, he really shouldn't be turning around to bite "the hand that fed him" and took risks to take him onto the flight
- nblsavage, on 05/13/2008, -1/+16It seems pretty clear you didn't read the article. Why would it even be a factor? Flight attendants have their own seating seperate from the passengers.
- saxreturns, on 05/13/2008, -1/+9How can anything 'seem pretty clear' from such a short article detailing only one version of events? You're making lots of assumptions.
- bxblox, on 05/13/2008, -2/+5You're joking right?
- foofoobee, on 05/13/2008, -1/+11First of all, nowhere in the article is there anything that would lead us to think that this guy "begged to get on", and it's just asinine to speculate on the reasons why. Secondly, no one lets you on a flight (especially these days) just because you're begging to get on. They let him board the plane because there was a seat available - simple as that. No one took any risks to get him onto the flight, and if they had, it would still be their fault. A passenger has some reasonable expectations, particularly with regards to safety, on a flight.
- Zoxy, on 05/13/2008, -1/+4As the article states he was flying on a buddy pass which means he would only get a seat if there was room left on that plane after the paid passengers were seated. I'm not entirely sure but I don't think that the flight attendant was actually working on that particular flight but using it to get to her next destination.
- nblsavage, on 05/13/2008, -0/+2Also from the artilcle - "The pilot told him 1½ hours into the five-hour flight that he would have to relinquish the seat to the flight attendant, court papers say. But the pilot said that Mutlu could not sit in the jump seat because only JetBlue employees were permitted to sit there, the lawsuit said."
and
"When the aircraft hit turbulence and passengers were directed to return to their seats, but "the plaintiff had no seat to return to, sitting on a toilet stool with no seat belts," court papers say."
Which sounds like a violation of safety regulations. What if he had been injured durning the turbulence?
- nblsavage, on 05/13/2008, -0/+2Also from the artilcle - "The pilot told him 1½ hours into the five-hour flight that he would have to relinquish the seat to the flight attendant, court papers say. But the pilot said that Mutlu could not sit in the jump seat because only JetBlue employees were permitted to sit there, the lawsuit said."
- takamalak, on 05/13/2008, -4/+2Wow, you're making a lot of ASSumptions here...
- aphexcoil, on 05/13/2008, -1/+95Compared to the economy seating of most jets these days, sitting in the bathroom would be considered first class!
- Unlgued, on 05/13/2008, -0/+4Yeah, what's he complaining about? I'd kill for a private room!
- Psi57, on 05/13/2008, -0/+2You do have a point sadly...
The leg room must be nice.
- Kr1ngle0, on 05/13/2008, -1/+37I would get suspicious if someone was in the toilet for three hours..
- V3n0M, on 05/13/2008, -2/+15Now that's what I call a sticky situation!
- russ3, on 05/13/2008, -2/+80I think we need some time lapse video!
- jawagas, on 05/13/2008, -9/+3Ya, because jetBlue puts cameras in the bathrooms.
- alittleroy101, on 05/13/2008, -1/+20No, but I do.
- talonstriker, on 05/13/2008, -0/+3Pics or it didn't happen
- alittleroy101, on 05/14/2008, -0/+1http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1145/848462267_7624 ...
- talonstriker, on 05/13/2008, -0/+3Pics or it didn't happen
- alittleroy101, on 05/13/2008, -1/+20No, but I do.
- jawagas, on 05/13/2008, -9/+3Ya, because jetBlue puts cameras in the bathrooms.
- NeoCortex, on 05/13/2008, -14/+10Seriously, I can see filing a complaint against the airline and maybe getting a few bucks, but how on Earth is it worth $2million? Is his ass really that important.
- RC212V, on 05/13/2008, -4/+2Random guy's ass? No. J-Lo, Beyonce, or Jessica Alba's ass? Definitely.
- dynelol, on 05/13/2008, -0/+2As nice as the asses you've named are, I still wouldn't pay two million for access to them.
- RC212V, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1Hmm that's a good point. But I was thinking in terms of how much the respective ass owners could insure their asses for. I mean, if Beyonce's ass had a big dent in it, she'd definitely lose some of her multi-million dollar earning potential. This guy could lose 80% of his ass and it wouldn't affect his earning potential at all, unless he's an ass model or something.
- dynelol, on 05/13/2008, -0/+2As nice as the asses you've named are, I still wouldn't pay two million for access to them.
- nblsavage, on 05/13/2008, -0/+13How else do you suggest punishing a large company? Harsh language?
- dynelol, on 05/13/2008, -0/+5I suppose it DOES need to be an amount that they'll care to lose rather than just what's fair.
- santaliqueur, on 05/13/2008, -0/+3How is any extreme lawsuit "worth" the amount asked?
- jawagas, on 05/13/2008, -1/+5To hire lawyers and advisers with enough skill and know-how to take on a company as big as JetBlue you are going to have to pay out the ass. At the end of the day this guys going to probably have near 1 million or less, which in today's economy is ***** well deserved for being humiliated to the toilet.
- dkapuchino, on 05/13/2008, -1/+1A computer programmer won't be able to save 1M bucks in his entire lifetime, this guy is able to get it for just sitting on a crapper for a few hours?
- jawagas, on 05/13/2008, -1/+5To hire lawyers and advisers with enough skill and know-how to take on a company as big as JetBlue you are going to have to pay out the ass. At the end of the day this guys going to probably have near 1 million or less, which in today's economy is ***** well deserved for being humiliated to the toilet.
- bloogoo22, on 05/13/2008, -4/+1he's exploiting the legal system looking for a settlement
- RC212V, on 05/13/2008, -4/+2Random guy's ass? No. J-Lo, Beyonce, or Jessica Alba's ass? Definitely.
- Enfecktion, on 05/13/2008, -31/+111LOL!!! I work for JetBlue, i'm a pilot crew scheduler.
I also happen to know the exact pilot in question.
I also know who the deaheading and operating flight attendants are.
Just an FYI, this pilot would NEVER do such a thing.
I'm pretty sure that this fella is just out for an easy payday.- nblsavage, on 05/13/2008, -9/+84And I'm Tsar Nicholas.
- Enfecktion, on 05/13/2008, -25/+9no, you're an idiot.
- nblsavage, on 05/13/2008, -3/+16Oh how clever.
- cha5e, on 05/13/2008, -4/+13Why is it so ridiculous to think that an employee of JetBlue might read digg? Airline employees like their tech news, too (I used to work for ATA Airlines).
And any digger working for Jetblue would of course read this story, and comment on it.
And, given that JetBlue is still a relatively small company, why would you assume it's so unlikely that one employee would know 3 particular other employees?- Enfecktion, on 05/13/2008, -1/+12http://www.flickr.com/photos/26569241@N06/24895762 ...
- Darrelc, on 05/13/2008, -0/+3Hi Tim
- oderdigg, on 05/13/2008, -3/+6I don't think anyone is questioning whether or not a JetBlue employee would post on Digg. When someone says that they work for X company, what proof is submitted to make this claim? In this case, none.
- Enfecktion, on 05/13/2008, -0/+8http://www.flickr.com/photos/26569241@N06/24895762 ...
- dkapuchino, on 05/13/2008, -2/+1That's not proof. That's just a picture of some jet blue employee you found. Replace that picture with a picture of you holding up the tag AND a sign saying "This is proof", and I'll believe.
- EtherGnat, on 05/13/2008, -0/+2It's not hard to believe a Jet Blue employee is reading Digg (although it's not hard to believe somebody could be lying either). The real problem is he didn't add anything to the discussion. His sole argument consists of "this pilot would NEVER do such a thing" which is a pretty lame argument even if he is who he says he is.
I'd LOVE to hear the other side of the story, because I'm sure there is more to it than we are being told. Remember the lady with the baby and the sippy cup that claimed she had been abused by the TSA that had everybody up in arms? ( http://digg.com/security/Nightmare_at_Reagan_Airpo ... ) Then the video of the incident was released that showed the woman was nothing more than a spoiled @#$@% ( http://digg.com/odd_stuff/TSA_denies_sippy_cup_inc ... ).
If this guy really knows the people involved he should give us the scoop, rather than useless platitudes.
- Enfecktion, on 05/13/2008, -1/+12http://www.flickr.com/photos/26569241@N06/24895762 ...
- gl77, on 05/13/2008, -3/+1you're the drug czar? oh wait...wrong spelling...
- coyote1284, on 05/13/2008, -0/+9I am Spartacus!
- talonstriker, on 05/13/2008, -0/+3*****, i thought i killed you already...
- Psi57, on 05/13/2008, -0/+2***** oppressor of the proletariat! Wait... didn't we kill you and your entire family at some point...
- Psythik, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1Who?
- Enfecktion, on 05/13/2008, -25/+9no, you're an idiot.
- dynelol, on 05/13/2008, -1/+46Going to back that up with any level of evidence or should we believe everyone that claims to know the people involved in Digg stories?
- Enfecktion, on 05/13/2008, -4/+13http://www.flickr.com/photos/26569241@N06/24895762 ...
- tmcpheeters, on 05/13/2008, -3/+4Seems kind of legit... http://www.facebook.com/s.php?q=tim+hunt+jetblue
- khail250, on 05/13/2008, -1/+3why is no one ever busy in the workplace?!?!!?!? why am I not busy?!?!
- Enfecktion, on 05/13/2008, -4/+13http://www.flickr.com/photos/26569241@N06/24895762 ...
- coachmcguirk, on 05/13/2008, -4/+67Ok, well case closed then!
Good work, gang!- krogothwolf, on 05/13/2008, -0/+27And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for those meddling kids
- Matteos, on 05/13/2008, -1/+5And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for those meddling diggs.
- Vector713, on 05/13/2008, -1/+1And I would have dugg it too, if it weren't for those meddling Jet Blue employees
- metroidragon, on 05/14/2008, -0/+1SCOOOBY DOOOBY-DOOOOOO!
- krogothwolf, on 05/13/2008, -0/+27And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for those meddling kids
- happytedium, on 05/13/2008, -5/+13And I'm David Neeleman. You're fired.
- Enfecktion, on 05/13/2008, -0/+6Neeleman can't fire me because he no longer works for JetBlue.
- MxM111, on 05/13/2008, -1/+12What's "deaheading"?
- radiopayola, on 05/13/2008, -0/+8deadhead is when a flight attendant only works a city one-way and catches another flight as a passenger to either get to the destination or back home...
- awseft, on 05/13/2008, -0/+4Deadhead - A term used to describe a pilot and/or flight attendant who is on duty but not performing the duties on the flight.
So if a crew member works one way to a city and the company needs him/her back in the originating city but already has a crew member to operate the flight back. The company will purchase that crew member a ticket back (providing them a seat). Normally (99% of the time) it would be a passenger seat, NOT a jump seat.
Now if a crew member lives in one city and is getting themselves to work in a different city (commuting) then the crew member is "non-rev"ing (or non-revenue). Non-rev is also used when an employee is taking a vacation and wants to travel free. Something most people don't understand is that this is a STANDBY ticket. We get what ever is left at the last minute. A non-reving flight attendant CAN sit on a Flight Attendant jump seat (some airlines also allow their pilots to sit on a flight attendant jump seat when non-reving but this is rare).
Jump seating is a privilege given to pilots that allows them to sit in the flight deck jump seat (hence the term). Flight attendants can not jump seat because they are not allowed in the flight deck (Except in rare instances like pilot bathroom breaks, serving crew meals, etc).
- awseft, on 05/13/2008, -0/+4Deadhead - A term used to describe a pilot and/or flight attendant who is on duty but not performing the duties on the flight.
- radiopayola, on 05/13/2008, -0/+8deadhead is when a flight attendant only works a city one-way and catches another flight as a passenger to either get to the destination or back home...
- databyss, on 05/13/2008, -8/+26LOLLERSKATES! I'm GoD And i seen iT DONE!
ROFLCOPTER!!
Just an For Your Information, that pilot TOTALLY DID THIS!!!!
And he masturbates vigorously!- Aerandir, on 05/13/2008, -2/+2and furiously.
yours,
The Devil. - slazer, on 05/13/2008, -3/+3u talk weird.
- Vector713, on 05/13/2008, -0/+2You speak incorrectly.
- slazer, on 05/16/2008, -0/+1easy there, rainbow. just referring to "LOLLERSKATES". and "ROFLCOPTER". never heard those ones before. and the exploded "Just an FYI" was an interesting way to type. and while i'm at it, data-abyss is another "clevery" on their part.
and.
- Aerandir, on 05/13/2008, -2/+2and furiously.
- saunders45, on 05/13/2008, -2/+20Yeah, just like half of Digg users are ex-marines.
- databyss, on 05/13/2008, -1/+5Whoa buddy... half of us aren't marines...
Our girlfriends would get too scared if we were in battle.- gl77, on 05/13/2008, -0/+7yea right.........marines.......thats just as likely as digg users being....oh, i dont know.......mid to late 20's male computer geeks who live in their mothers basement and masturbate to porn, iphone articles, Ron Paul articles, and anything to do with Apple products. what a hoot!
- dkapuchino, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1that isn't mutually exclusive. One can be an ex marine, and still jack off to ron paul iPhone porn.
- gl77, on 05/13/2008, -0/+7yea right.........marines.......thats just as likely as digg users being....oh, i dont know.......mid to late 20's male computer geeks who live in their mothers basement and masturbate to porn, iphone articles, Ron Paul articles, and anything to do with Apple products. what a hoot!
- SkippyDoorknob, on 05/13/2008, -0/+3With girlfriends in Canada
- apmtt, on 05/13/2008, -3/+0Actually I'm in the SAS and I used to be a super secret test pilot for the USSR. But don't tell anyone because they'll kick me out of the SAS if they find out.
- databyss, on 05/13/2008, -1/+5Whoa buddy... half of us aren't marines...
- Enfecktion, on 05/13/2008, -4/+23http://www.flickr.com/photos/26569241@N06/24895762 ...
PROOF!!- Aerandir, on 05/13/2008, -6/+7I have one of those, but mine says CIA.
- darlyn, on 05/13/2008, -0/+4Nice hair mate :)
- iidestined, on 05/13/2008, -0/+3That takes some of the fun out of flaming your comment. It was temporary lulz though.
- thismortalshade, on 05/13/2008, -0/+14That's proof that you work where you say you work and in that department. It is not proof that you 1) Know the pilot in question. 2) That they would never do that. Also, you may want to avoid flashing your employee id # around. I know it's not used for much on a day to day basis, still it may be ill advised.
- khail250, on 05/13/2008, -0/+5too late google owns him now
- Enfecktion, on 05/13/2008, -1/+4good call, i did it in a fit of rage...guess i need to edit it.
- Cowboy1015, on 05/13/2008, -1/+3That's not you... ID thief...
- talonstriker, on 05/13/2008, -0/+3deleted.
- LawyersGetUOff, on 05/13/2008, -2/+4What a stupid stupid thing to do, why would you post your badge on the internet?
Don't you think there is a reason why they make you report it to the police if it is lost or stolen?
Also, you are clearly brainwashed by the company.
You know that reservations rarely verifies if the person listing on a flight is actually on your flight benefits..now you can have the joy of people you don't know calling JetBlue and listing on flights with your Employee Number! YaY!
Also jetBlue has a strict policy when it comes to blogging, and letting company information public, check it out..- almostspastic, on 05/13/2008, -3/+2Uh, there was no blogging nor was he letting any sensitive company info out. He said "Hey, I know these people, they wouldn't do that." Also, the things a person can do if they have your employee ID are very limited. Knowing someone's ID isn't going to get you free flights, period. Besides, it IS an ID badge... he used it to prove his identification, suprise suprise!
The biggest ***** alert in your comment is the brainwash segment. Who are you to accuse someone of being brainwashed when they show a little pride in the company they work for? Stop being such a poisonous little man.
- almostspastic, on 05/13/2008, -3/+2Uh, there was no blogging nor was he letting any sensitive company info out. He said "Hey, I know these people, they wouldn't do that." Also, the things a person can do if they have your employee ID are very limited. Knowing someone's ID isn't going to get you free flights, period. Besides, it IS an ID badge... he used it to prove his identification, suprise suprise!
- slazer, on 05/13/2008, -0/+5ok, now that there's proof:
the flight attendant who needed a seat, was she hot?- Scrappy1850, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1she can sit on my lap
- EridanMan, on 05/13/2008, -0/+4Then dude, shut the ***** up before someone in legal sees this. The thrill of having inside information about this douche is not worth your job.
- nblsavage, on 05/13/2008, -9/+84And I'm Tsar Nicholas.
- xero9, on 05/13/2008, -2/+40I smell *****
- vize, on 05/13/2008, -2/+16You are probably standing next to a bull
- happytedium, on 05/13/2008, -3/+3How unfortunate for you.
- punkcat, on 05/13/2008, -3/+1thats what he said.
- charlietuna, on 05/13/2008, -1/+2blue *****
- mangosinslo, on 05/13/2008, -12/+5what a piece of ***** pilot
- Wesside, on 05/13/2008, -1/+9How about you get the entire story before making assumptions that some asshat that filed a lawsuit is in the right?
- RomeyRome, on 05/13/2008, -2/+3That would un-Amerrrican
- Rendonsmug, on 05/13/2008, -4/+1The pilot in that story is indeed a piece of ***** pilot. Whether the pilot in real life matches up with the pilot in the story... only time will tell.
- Wesside, on 05/13/2008, -1/+9How about you get the entire story before making assumptions that some asshat that filed a lawsuit is in the right?
- Pinkertinkle, on 05/13/2008, -3/+67Sorry but theres no way a guy named Gokhan Mutlu is going to win in court, he sounds like a Marvel supervillain.
- bicyclethief, on 05/13/2008, -1/+5Those are the guys you don't want to ***** with. Unless it's Mole Man.
- solemnraven, on 05/13/2008, -5/+3everybody knows Gokhan is from DBZ
- Bersy, on 05/14/2008, -0/+0is that a fusion of Goku and Gohan?
- rrbest, on 05/13/2008, -4/+3I could be wrong, but sounds indian.. maybe has a good racism card to play at some point
- Xephyr, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1No, he's not Indian, he's Turkish.
- coyote1284, on 05/13/2008, -0/+10If the defense attorney can trick Mr. Mutlu into saying his own name backward he returns to his home dimension and the case is a mistrial.
/I'm a D.C.- Pinkertinkle, on 05/13/2008, -1/+1backwards.. hmm that's Ultum. Like Ultumate Gokhan!
- TheCash, on 05/13/2008, -0/+5Or a freakin Super Sayan.
- Bersy, on 05/14/2008, -0/+0Hmm.. guy above mentions DBZ, gets dugg down. You say super sayajin and get dugg up. Fickle bunch.
- Liquorice, on 05/13/2008, -3/+0Actually Gökhan Mutlu is a common turkish name, like John Smith.
Fun fact: 'mutlu' means 'happy' in turkish
- fxu1989, on 05/13/2008, -14/+7I hope this happens to me one day...
So I can sue them and get money.......... Maybe I should go to McDonalds, buy a coffee, and sue them for being too hot.- dynelol, on 05/13/2008, -7/+3Maybe you should only eat at McDonalds for the rest of your life? Maybe you should start smoking 10 packs a day? Maybe you should eat a bowl of dick?
- bxblox, on 05/13/2008, -3/+7It's been done. There's a warning on the cup now.
- tak84, on 05/13/2008, -2/+2Are you serious? The things you learn on digg...
- fxu1989, on 05/13/2008, -0/+2I know .... that's why I said it :P
- dynelol, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1I was hoping at least a FEW ***** would get it.
- mciampa1214, on 05/13/2008, -4/+4get a *****' job
- dkapuchino, on 05/13/2008, -1/+5Get the ***** out of here you neo-conservative. I'm sure there's a very good reason he doesn't have a job and would rather live off others.
- dynelol, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1Called weed. I smoke it but not to that extent.
- dkapuchino, on 05/13/2008, -1/+5Get the ***** out of here you neo-conservative. I'm sure there's a very good reason he doesn't have a job and would rather live off others.
- bxblox, on 05/13/2008, -2/+19"he was the pilot, that this was his plane, under his command that (Mutlu) should be grateful for being on board"
Looks like a threat. What's he going to do, throw him off? Grateful for what?- awseft, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1Actually. Interfering with the duties of a crew member (pilot or not) is against federal regulations.
I have seen police meet aircraft at the gate and take passengers off for questioning. - samoan27, on 05/14/2008, -2/+2For free airfare, douchbag. With what a cross continental flight costs he probably saved around $200-300 and all he had to do was sit on the can for a couple hours. If you give someone the opportunity to save $100 an hour just for sitting on a toilet you're damn right they should be grateful.
- bxblox, on 05/15/2008, -0/+2Buddy passes are rarely free douchebag. They're very reduced price STANDBY tickets, as they should be, because there's no assurance that you will be able to board the plane. Once you board it means you have a seat and are equal to every other passenger. Once they take the boarding pass the seat is officially purchased for the flight. Making someone sit in a seat with no seatbelts is against regulations. You're a moron.
- awseft, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1Actually. Interfering with the duties of a crew member (pilot or not) is against federal regulations.
- SilverBlade2k, on 05/13/2008, -3/+14He has every right to sue...
- santaliqueur, on 05/13/2008, -0/+6Assuming this actually happened to him. It's an allegation, not fact.
- Wesside, on 05/13/2008, -0/+3IF he isn't making ***** up.
- happytedium, on 05/13/2008, -6/+3True, but $2 million? I'm fairly sure that for $2 mill most people would sit on a toilet for 30+ hours let alone 3.
- rrbest, on 05/13/2008, -0/+3Yeah, you're right. But what if a corporation worth a billion dollars forced you to sit on a toilet against your will and told you they'd give you nothing? Would you want to take .2% of what they had as punishment?
- macweirdo42, on 05/13/2008, -0/+3You do understand that the point of a lawsuit is to punish a company, right? I mean, yeah, it's probably only worth a few thousand at most, but to an airline company, they could probably dig that out of the sofa. How does that deter them from doing it again?
- dkapuchino, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1Then the money should go to charity. Not to the suer.
- edmcguirk, on 05/14/2008, -0/+1No, the point of a lawsuit is to compensate you for your loss.
However after you add in all the lost time, legal fees, and the negotiations to take much less in order to actually get your money in this lifetime, 2 million is about the going entry fee for using the legal system.
- jackalsclaw, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1and the airline has every right to ask that the case be dismissed
- ColorBlind, on 05/13/2008, -5/+30I'm gonna pull the BS card on this one.....
There has to be parts of this story missing. - hauntedchippy, on 05/13/2008, -9/+5I guess the airlines really do treat you like *****.
- Dan11023, on 05/13/2008, -2/+23i rather sit on a jet blue toilet than a normal seat in a regular airline
- dynelol, on 05/13/2008, -5/+54Two MILLION? How do people choose the amount that they'll be suing for? Do they spin a ***** wheel or something?
- RomeyRome, on 05/13/2008, -1/+29Their lawyers pick. Guy probably came in wanting 2 free tickets or something.
- inigomntoya, on 05/13/2008, -0/+16I'm thinking the same thing. But, I wonder if the lawyer threw in "What if's". IE - what if the plan crashed and he wasn't strapped in properly, what is the chance of getting hepatitis C during the landing, what if a poop tainted peanut was eaten, etc. etc...
Frivolous and over estimated, IMO.- dynelol, on 05/13/2008, -1/+3I am a paying customer.
You gave me Hepatitis C.
Prepare to die.- inigomntoya, on 05/13/2008, -0/+3Yeah, yeah - get in line, buddy!
- dynelol, on 05/13/2008, -1/+3I am a paying customer.
- alittleroy101, on 05/13/2008, -7/+5As has been mentioned at least ten ***** times in the 50+ comments above you,
How else do you punish a large company? Harsh language?
You have to make them change policies and training so this won't happen again. That is the rationale. Your comment was neither clever or original.- RomeyRome, on 05/13/2008, -1/+2Make them give out 2 million dollars worth of tickets... I mean if you just want to tech them a lesson & not profit from it.
- edmcguirk, on 05/14/2008, -0/+1Yeah, 2 million dollars worth of standby tickets.
That'll hurt them.
- edmcguirk, on 05/14/2008, -0/+1Yeah, 2 million dollars worth of standby tickets.
- Sumtin2Say, on 05/13/2008, -1/+2"As has been mentioned at least ten ***** times in the 50+ comments above you"
A higher position in the thread doesn't necessarily mean it was written first.
- RomeyRome, on 05/13/2008, -1/+2Make them give out 2 million dollars worth of tickets... I mean if you just want to tech them a lesson & not profit from it.
- coyote1284, on 05/13/2008, -0/+8"Big money, big money, no whammies!"
- expo1001, on 05/14/2008, -0/+2STOP!
- novask, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1The same way the RIAA does it?
- algo, on 05/13/2008, -1/+19he should've told the flight attendant to sit on his lap (hoping it was a decent looking lady)
- dkapuchino, on 05/13/2008, -1/+2It was an American flight attendant.
- pathouston22, on 05/13/2008, -8/+19Stories like this make me call BS. I mean, who the hell would actually listen to the pilot? Are people that sheepish and afraid to say something?
I'd tell him to go f*** himself. No way in hell I would sit in a bathroom.- Ocelot13, on 05/13/2008, -1/+3he wouldnt get 2 million if he did that.
- mciampa1214, on 05/13/2008, -5/+4*whips out taser*
- madk, on 05/13/2008, -7/+1Don't taze me bro!
- karolisonline, on 05/13/2008, -1/+16maybe somewhere in japan or europe, but in america You would be called terrorist and escorted from the plain directly to the custody. especially if Your name is Mutlu...
- Vector713, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1With the prairie dogs?
- cha5e, on 05/13/2008, -0/+13Well, technically, disobeying crewmember instruction is punishable by large fines and/or imprisonment. Of course, the pilot should never tell you to do something such as what this story alleges.
- oderdigg, on 05/13/2008, -2/+2Same here man. There is no way I would accept sitting on the toilet.
- awseft, on 05/13/2008, -0/+6Actually. Interfering with the duties of a crew member (pilot or not) is against federal regulations.
I have seen police meet aircraft at the gate and take passengers off for questioning.
I hope you are never on one of my flights. =)
- RikkiTikki, on 05/13/2008, -3/+6JetBlue is my favorite airline. Does this mean I need to boycott it?
- Enfecktion, on 05/13/2008, -4/+4Just wait til the full story comes out, if it's true, i'm boycotting as well.
- cha5e, on 05/13/2008, -0/+9Wait a sec...a few comments up you said you are an employee of JetBlue...
- RomeyRome, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1Oooh... Spanked!
- imacommi, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1yeah what gives?!?
- dkapuchino, on 05/13/2008, -0/+3Are you saying a coca cola employee can't decide to stop drinking coke?
- cha5e, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1He could...although it would be at least a little weird, especially if he continued to drink cola products in general. Enfecktion's post, at least to me, implied that he/she does fly.
- PoSSeSSeDCoW, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1Yeah, because the actions of one pilot would be a completely accurate representation of JetBlue's policies.
- cha5e, on 05/13/2008, -0/+9Wait a sec...a few comments up you said you are an employee of JetBlue...
- RomeyRome, on 05/13/2008, -4/+2Oh no! A Digg boycot!
Get over yourselves.
- Enfecktion, on 05/13/2008, -4/+4Just wait til the full story comes out, if it's true, i'm boycotting as well.
- wahoomcdaniel, on 05/13/2008, -6/+6Hey, it's not as bad as being left on the toilet in a manufactured home for two years.
- inigomntoya, on 05/13/2008, -0/+5Huh?
- Monk22, on 05/13/2008, -0/+2quit being poor
- rubberbrush, on 05/13/2008, -4/+18When you pass ride you are the lowest form of life. You pay a small amount for space available seating. There were many days I would rather have been stuck in the bathroom than stuck La Guardia, Newark, Atlanta, etc.
The whole idea of pass riding is that it's a bit of an adventure. Sometimes you get up in Business Class on a trip to Europe, sometimes you can't get out of the airport for 3 days.
This ***** doesn't get it, and he is going to get the person who gave him the pass fired. No good deed goes unpunished I guess.- karolisonline, on 05/13/2008, -0/+5maybe. but it is no excuse to leave person without seat belt. what if plain crashed?
- Tyrghast, on 05/13/2008, -2/+1this would happen: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Fligh ...
- BingoPower, on 05/13/2008, -0/+3Nobody would have known about the alleged incident, and everything would be hunky-dorey... (aside from the 200 dead).
- SillyRabbits, on 05/13/2008, -0/+5He would die like most of the other people on the plane. With airplane accidents, it's either everybody walks away, or nobody does - almost always. There are few, if any cases where a seatbelt makes a difference. Just like the flotation devices, they are mainly there for physiological reasons.
- BingoPower, on 05/14/2008, -0/+2"That's all good and well, Stewardess, but what happens if we hit a ***** mountain?"
- timla, on 05/13/2008, -0/+7While he may get the person who gave him the pass fired (it would be a juvenile move on jetblues part) there are two issues, he was already on the plane, they did not tell him, "hey, you can catch this flight, but you have to sit on the pot while flying" The second issue is that it probably was a violation of FAA rules to have someone sitting without a seat belt no other reason then "The flight attendant doesn't like her seat"
- radiopayola, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1No kidding... Sounds like this guy is embellishing his story in an effort to get back at the crew for treating him the way experienced pass riders have come to expect. I don't have a lot of sympathy for the person who gave him the pass. They should know better than to give a pass to an unstable friend...or worse...a stranger.
- metolius, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1It is fairly apparent that once the plane has departed the gate, all passengers (in the same class) should be treated equally -- doesn't matter if you paid full-fare for a first-class ticket or used frequent-flier miles or used an ID90 ticket. The time to make distinctions like that is BEFORE the plane leaves the gate.
- milkmage, on 05/13/2008, -0/+2ok, so you might get a nice seat in business class, you might get stuck in an airport waiting - the POINT is that IF you are allowed on a flight you are entitled to a seat just the same as paying customers.
- karolisonline, on 05/13/2008, -0/+5maybe. but it is no excuse to leave person without seat belt. what if plain crashed?
- Connormac44, on 05/13/2008, -1/+93I'm considering suing my cheesy bean burrito for the same reason.
- inigomntoya, on 05/13/2008, -0/+6I am hoping this guy gets the same response from JetBlue that you would get from your burrito...
- hayzeus, on 05/13/2008, -0/+3I'm dating your cheesy bean burrito. I think it may be getting serious.
- Conwaysb0718, on 05/13/2008, -3/+113 hours on the can? *****, just give me a good book and thats an average sunday around my house.
- asskicker32, on 05/13/2008, -2/+11Im thinking *****. Ive seen some flight attendants do some rude *****, but never anything CLOSE to this. Add to this that Ive never seen the door to the cockpit open during flight, or the pilots come out to address a single customer on any issues and I call *****.
- kennyfulgencio, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1Oh, I've seen the pilot come out to address a single passenger about a seat assignment mixup (surprised me that the pilot would come out to make the final call on that), although we weren't in flight yet.
Assuming a copilot is still up there, I have no trouble believing it could happen midflight as easily. There are some questionable aspects to this story, but that isn't one of them. - desqjockey, on 05/14/2008, -0/+1Ive seen it happen too.
- kennyfulgencio, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1Oh, I've seen the pilot come out to address a single passenger about a seat assignment mixup (surprised me that the pilot would come out to make the final call on that), although we weren't in flight yet.
- thedogfatherx, on 05/13/2008, -11/+8***** this guy. 2 million dollars? Croch of *****. I don't care if he actually was made to do that. This person is the opidamy of what is wrong with america. Quick fixes and quick bucks.
- mciampa1214, on 05/13/2008, -2/+9crock* epidemy* America*
quick spell check- thedogfatherx, on 05/13/2008, -7/+3no time to spell check at work.....don't really care though anyways....
- mciampa1214, on 05/13/2008, -3/+4Right I'm sure your job is so important you can't spare two seconds to go back to the red lines ...oh wait, your surfing Digg.
- thedogfatherx, on 05/13/2008, -5/+2I multi-task. I could give two ***** if my grammar is perfect on digg. Go bitch about something else important. Who hired you as the digg english teacher?
- mciampa1214, on 05/13/2008, -3/+4Right I'm sure your job is so important you can't spare two seconds to go back to the red lines ...oh wait, your surfing Digg.
- jimmytree, on 05/13/2008, -2/+3"epitome", not "epidemy", you silly person... use dictionary along with your spell check.
- asskicker32, on 05/13/2008, -2/+1lol
- asskicker32, on 05/13/2008, -2/+1lol
- cgm1985, on 05/13/2008, -2/+2You are both the *epitome* (correct word) of fail.
- thedogfatherx, on 05/13/2008, -7/+3no time to spell check at work.....don't really care though anyways....
- timla, on 05/13/2008, -0/+2There will be a settlement for much less then that 100K or so, you may think that is too high as well, but no where near 2mill. The 2mill is a negotiating tactic
- asskicker32, on 05/13/2008, -1/+1lol @ croch and opidamy
- mciampa1214, on 05/13/2008, -2/+9crock* epidemy* America*
- james188foster, on 05/13/2008, -8/+1I'm surprised the dude isn't also suing for racial/religious discrimination. The plaintiff has an Turkish name.
- Scottievm, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1Well considering that almost all Turkish people are Caucasian, I don't think racial profiling would really fly in court.
- Blitzwing84, on 05/13/2008, -0/+23"I'm sorry sir, but due to safety regulations, we have to upgrade your seat. You will be moved into our new lavatory class. It features increased legroom, variable seating adjustments, and personal wash facilities. Thank you for flying JetBlue."
- mlavergn, on 05/13/2008, -0/+3I prefer to think of it as a "personal office", complete with floor to ceiling walls and a lockable door. Fancy! No where's that meal tray hidden?
- Jalh, on 05/13/2008, -6/+1... and the ***** gave his sit. retard , thats what you deserve
- colin8651, on 05/13/2008, -2/+23This story doesn't sound right, something is missing. To an airline pilot, the FAA regs are GOD. I can't buy a pilot telling someone to sit in the bathroom.
- DooM, on 05/13/2008, -1/+4Riiiight - pilots are people, too. If they were all in that much awe of FAA guidelines you'd never hear about drunk pilots, pilots who fall asleep, etc. Not saying this is true - just saying it could very well be.
- JorgeGT, on 05/13/2008, -2/+6A pilot wouldn't violate an FAA regulation like this, making a passenger travel in an unsafe place with no seabelt during turbulences, having a spare seat. "just for employees?", bah, even if it was "just for the Pope", rules are rules, and pilots lose their license pretty easy if they broke them.
- DooM, on 05/13/2008, -1/+3If pilots never violated regulations then there would be no reason for revokable licenses or punishments. Pilots violate FAA regulations every day and are punished BECAUSE THEY AREN'T PERFECT. I'm sure even the Pope sometimes lies to his Cardinals about stuff - people are people, they do weird things for weird reasons.
- onionbagel724, on 05/13/2008, -0/+11"why dont you go hang out in the bathroom for a while" that sounds like something a drunk pilot would say, obviously thinking its a genius idea. yep, definitely a drunk pilot trying to win over the flight attendant.
- GreatGiftPicks, on 05/14/2008, -0/+1hahaha I thought this was a food poisoning story and was a little disappointed at first - but your comment made it worthwhile after all.
- spunkmyer, on 05/13/2008, -3/+10I call shenanigans
- PaganHeathen, on 05/13/2008, -5/+3I would have been drained after such an ordeal. Though he should have felt flush for getting such a cheap flight in the first place. Stories like this bowl me over. He had plenty of time to arrange his thoughts re, his law suit I wonder if he had point no.1 and point no.2....
- Bersy, on 05/14/2008, -0/+0You fail at puns
- cerejota, on 05/13/2008, -3/+8RTFA, you get what you paid for...
- D14BL0, on 05/13/2008, -1/+4Free flight or not, it's severely illegal to assign a passenger to a seat that does not comply with safety standards.
- cerejota, on 05/14/2008, -0/+1Water gets you wet...
- D14BL0, on 05/13/2008, -1/+4Free flight or not, it's severely illegal to assign a passenger to a seat that does not comply with safety standards.
- darkfus, on 05/13/2008, -3/+3Talk about getting ***** on...
- thedogfatherx, on 05/13/2008, -9/+3So this ***** first gets a free ticket from what it seems. Then he sues the sit out of the airline for 2 million dollars? This guy needs to be bitch slapped. Ohhhh poooor baby had to sit in the airline bathroom for a little while on a free ticket.
- bigmrjohn, on 05/13/2008, -4/+5Say hello to our future president of the United States.
- cerejota, on 05/13/2008, -1/+4You mean the IQ requirement is going to increase?
- bigmrjohn, on 05/13/2008, -4/+5Say hello to our future president of the United States.
- ethornquist, on 05/13/2008, -0/+3It's the best place to read. So are graduations. I read an entire comic book
during last Saturday's graduation in my cap and gown. - james188foster, on 05/13/2008, -3/+5Where is the evidence to back up these allegations?
- DooM, on 05/13/2008, -1/+2Uh... that's what the lawsuit is for: to provide a venue to present evidence before a judge who can make a legal decision based upon it.
- cadmiumpaint, on 05/13/2008, -2/+1maybe the PLANE FULL OF WITNESSES.
- Vector713, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1Hmm.. that seems to be missing sir, but we do have evidence to back up these alligators!
- chesscat, on 05/13/2008, -1/+5Can't most of these issues be settled with an apology and a free ticket without taking up valuable court time?
- jessehadden, on 05/13/2008, -4/+10To all of the people calling *****: have you flown, post-9/11? $2M may be the only way to reverse the trend of treating people like cattle. I doubt it will be enough.
- edgedmurasame, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1There's always the part of reversing the de-regulation of the 1980's to do as well.
- asskicker32, on 05/13/2008, -1/+2I Called ***** and I fly about 8 times a month.
AND, I fly mostly United and US Air, the airlines with the WORST service ratings.- jessehadden, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1You got me beat there -- I only fly twice a month at most. I would say this is a deviation from the "usual" ways that people are treated like cattle. Coincidentally enough, I just spent a few hours sitting rather uncomfortably in a tiny United seat, just a few feet away from the airport, while the maintenance crew took their time deciding simply not to fix the problem with our aircraft. Apparently it was a problem that wouldn't affect anything, and could totally wait until after we landed at our destination, but they considered it a non-issue to keep us waiting there for a few hours while they decided whether or not to fix it now anyhow. I actually felt rather unhappy that the captain decided to explain to us what was going on; I would've felt more comfortable simply not knowing that we were flying after having a question raised about both the fuel dipstick (I forget what he actually called it) and the amount of fuel in the plane. In any event, I have colleagues who've waited for over 8 hours on the runway before either taking off, or being mercifully returned to the airport. You really do have no rights, and if you complain, you might get threatened with severe consequences. Must be nice, not to have to worry about customer service!
- bloogoo22, on 05/13/2008, -3/+4by the little bit of dialogue shown you have to wonder what the guy said to the pilot. he's willing to sue for 2mil so he's probably a douche, i would be happy to get a free flight. who ever gave him the pass is probably getting fired because of him, stupid law suits undermine the legal system and force us normal people to pay more and more money as companies need so spend more and more money to protect themselves from idiots and their lawyers. give him a few free tickets and an apology, fire his friend and the pilot, then spend millions on a new ad campaign to fix your image.
- macweirdo42, on 05/13/2008, -0/+20Safety considerations aside, I see a lot of advantages to sitting on the toilet. You get space to yourself, you don't have to put up with obnoxious passengers, you don't have to contend with the constant stream of old people slowly going in and out of the bathroom when you gotta go, and you can join the Mile High Club at any time.
- digiguy, on 05/13/2008, -2/+0But you do get Hemorrhoids
- HawkeyeMatt, on 05/13/2008, -0/+5That's exactly what I was thinking! *****, I would pay MORE to get a private bathroom to sit in by myself for three hours. He needs to stop bitching. I don't care about safety, ***** safety.
- BingoPower, on 05/13/2008, -0/+3Especially as if the plane hits *anything* you're pretty much ***** anyway.
Hey, it might even be safer.
- BingoPower, on 05/13/2008, -0/+3Especially as if the plane hits *anything* you're pretty much ***** anyway.
- cyclonesworld, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1This is the truth. I honestly don't think I'd have a problem with sitting on the toilet for 3 hours.
- crimsonalucard, on 05/13/2008, -0/+0Another advantage is you can get 2 million after sueing the pilot for saftey negligence.
- desqjockey, on 05/14/2008, -0/+2Solo flights do not get you into the mile high club.
- antonycao, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1And you can also order a special meal: deliver to Mr. Mutlu at bathroom#3
- sbassoli, on 05/13/2008, -0/+0Some dude waiting in the bathroom for you? JetBlue? More like JetBlew
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