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Man Hangs Himself After Falsely Accused of Raping a Woman
dailymail.co.uk — A man who lost his job after being falsely accused of a horrific sex crime has been found hanged in a shed. Ian Adams, 51, was suspended and then sacked from his job at a local IKEA store after his employers received a letter saying he had raped a woman and her two children.
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- topapito, on 03/22/2008, -3/+333My oh my how the lynching mentality still haunts the human race. This poor guy was done in by a letter! Filled with false accusations and nobody was intrigued enough to do any checking, it just had the dreaded words "rape" in it. The people involved may as well have hung him themselves. Sad.
- Mist0r_Wiggles, on 03/22/2008, -11/+26I wonder if he actually looked like a rapist...
Maybe he wears rapist glasses. You know, they do make the everyday man look like a sexual predator.- EllimistX, on 03/22/2008, -7/+11Jon?
- H0tKarl, on 03/22/2008, -2/+12Dad?
- grimward, on 03/22/2008, -1/+2MOM?! :O
- H0tKarl, on 03/22/2008, -2/+12Dad?
- haterofps3, on 03/22/2008, -1/+9Maybe he has an old brown van with "candy" written down one side with white house paint.
- sonofblacula, on 03/22/2008, -2/+4Maybe he had the pedosmile.
- EllimistX, on 03/22/2008, -7/+11Jon?
- themastersb, on 03/22/2008, -28/+16He will always be remembered as an hero.
- TheJokerV, on 03/22/2008, -6/+25What?
- Radical5, on 03/22/2008, -6/+14lurk more
- GothAlice, on 03/22/2008, -5/+9An hero, the world needs more.
- enclaved, on 03/22/2008, -3/+5http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/An_hero
- error2k2, on 03/22/2008, -4/+16An heroes kill themselves over crap like getting their phones stolen, that's what makes them heroes. When you kill yourself over stuff like this, it's just sad because he was driven to that situation.
- leonhyral, on 03/22/2008, -1/+3No one needs 4chan memes here.
- TheJokerV, on 03/22/2008, -6/+25What?
- pintomp3, on 03/22/2008, -0/+53it's sad that accusations of rape alone carry such a stigma and the accused vilified so immediately. this is true for most crimes, but accusations of rape or child molestation turn you into an instant pariah. it also does damage to actual victims of rape. most rape goes unreported and false accusations of rape cause victims to be unfairly dismissed or their claims taken with skepticism.
- arsonist18, on 03/22/2008, -0/+9
it's the witch hunt all over again...
- arsonist18, on 03/22/2008, -0/+9
- banmaster, on 03/22/2008, -55/+2I'm sorry, but this guy had a HUGE screw loose if he reacted this way after some letter! In fact, I'd be prepared to bet money that he DID rape someone. No normal person kills themselves over a false accustion!
- Hobofuzz, on 03/22/2008, -0/+28Jackass...
- riceklown, on 03/22/2008, -0/+21What!? I can't believe you even think that way! You're just as bad as the mobs that lynch people on accusation alone!
Although I don't sympathize with actual rapist and molesters in the slightest, I do know for a fact that in this day and age (when it's all about protecting the poor innocent children and poor defenseless women), even being accused of rape can have dire consequences for the accused regardless of guilt.
Think about it yourself. When you hear that someone has raped a little child or his ex or whoever, what is the first thing that comes to your mind? I bet the first thing you think about is the worst horrific thing that the accusation could imply. Then you think about the shear violence you want to enact upon the accused.
Why is it even in a country (I'm in the US btw) where we pride ourselves on justice and morality, has the popular thought process devolved to instantly judging the accused guilty and ready to lynch the poor bastard regardless of the fact that no defense has been permitted by the self-righteous "defenders of the innocent"?
Even the FBI will admit that many rape accusations just simply didn't happen, not by the accused or anyone. Since you are so eager to lynch them, maybe you would like to explain to the families of these poor saps that accusation are enough for you to judge them guilty.
I am just happy that in some law enforcement offices around this world there are real men and women that realize that although serious, accusations are worth only as much as the evidence that supports them.
To get closer to what you were saying however; simply being accused of rape can have dramatic effects on the accused. The innocent man will probably lose his job, most of his friends and probably several of his own family members, may have to move out of the area, and things get much worse.
Imagine you are doing everything you can to build your life up, you work tirelessly to build up for retirement or whatever. You meet a nice girl you want to settle down with and be happy for the rest of your life. Then, out of the blue, someone (probably from your past) with a grudge (ex-girlfriend perhaps) tells everyone you know that you raped not only her, but her daughter. You lose most of your female friends. No one at work trusts you anymore, if you still have a job. That perfect woman in your life leaves you. And to top it all off, some of your own family that have known you since birth, disown you for the "despicable piece of society's trash that you are".
How are you going to take it banmaster?- ultraluxe, on 03/22/2008, -12/+0It isn't the FBI's job to investigate rapes.
- Raziel66, on 03/22/2008, -0/+6The FBI may not investigate them, but it is the FBI that compiles all the crime statistics in the country. Every year they release detailed reports about growing trends in crime based on data sent in by individual precints. You can read it on their website.
- RobotBuddha, on 03/22/2008, -0/+9You'd be surprised. I actually knew someone who something similar happened to. It occurs more often than you might think. The only problem is that people usually don't talk about it. If someone kills themselves to, say, protect their family from the flack of the false charges they'd otherwise be confronted with it's pretty bad taste to bring it out in the open.
- nufoto, on 03/22/2008, -1/+12Read the Story he was fired based on a letter sent to his employer... "Police confirmed that Mr Adams, from Highams Park East, London, had never been arrested or convicted of a sexual offence or had any complaints made against him"
Someone was after his job or they didn't like him? The Police should find who ever sent this letter and charge them! To bad for Ikea getting it's name dragged in the Mud ! oh well I guess it had to happen!- Hermiod, on 03/22/2008, -0/+8IKEA should have considered their actions more carefully.
- robotsy, on 04/25/2008, -0/+0YOU have a huge screw loose, he did it to protect his family, not as a cop-out.
- RTourn, on 03/22/2008, -0/+28This is why the accused have Rights, sometimes they are innocent.
- Hermiod, on 03/22/2008, -0/+28In these cases, the accused should have an additional right - the same anonymity as their supposed victim.
- Monarch818, on 03/22/2008, -1/+11Banmaster, you are an ass. There have been very rational people throughout history that have committed suicide due to the loss of honor, be it a real loss of honor on their own actions, or actions of other such as accusations. The downfall of American society is the fact that many people no longer value their own moral honor and how people think about them. The stigma of self respect in the eyes of others has disappeared in the U.S. and much of the world, which is why there are SO many self-righteous a-holes in the world.
- spiralspirit, on 03/22/2008, -1/+1I'm not sure i understand your post. "The stigma of self respect in the eyes of others " self respect cannot be in the eyes of others - to misquote a popular comedian - its respect of yourself.
"here have been very rational people throughout history that have committed suicide"
rational people still do irrational things. suicide is irrational in almost any case.
"The downfall of American society is the fact that many people no longer value their own moral honor and how people think about them"
morals and honors are simply obligations society sets for you. the only ones that count are MY OWN morals - and they have nothing to do with what people think of me.
its hard to even comprehend people who dugg your post up. Its harder to comprehend you.
- spiralspirit, on 03/22/2008, -1/+1I'm not sure i understand your post. "The stigma of self respect in the eyes of others " self respect cannot be in the eyes of others - to misquote a popular comedian - its respect of yourself.
- Wakuko, on 03/22/2008, -15/+0Nobody commits suicide being innocent.
He was hanged!
Was he preparing a juicy lawsuit against ikea?
There you have a clue, young detective...- nycmac247, on 03/22/2008, -0/+3are you _really_ thinking about what his daily reality was like --- and maybe, also, that he did not have your personality?
- monoa, on 03/22/2008, -2/+3It's The Daily Mail, an unpleasant, jingoistic, petty little rag of a newspaper. Take nothing they report on face value until you see the same story corroborated in the respectable press.
A quick search shows that this story is not appearing in any of the broadsheets - there'll be a good reason for that.
- Mist0r_Wiggles, on 03/22/2008, -11/+26I wonder if he actually looked like a rapist...
- jesusthatsgreat, on 03/22/2008, -0/+112wow, the poor guy..
- fitqueenb, on 03/22/2008, -2/+146IKEA should be paying a price for letting him go. Steep price. Poor dude! Feel for his family and friends.
- spudnic, on 03/22/2008, -7/+27They should be facing criminal charges, they are complicit in his death.
- dawesdust12, on 03/22/2008, -18/+0They would, but they wouldn't include the stapler, so the lawyer would need to use the 1 (missing) included staple to staple the documents.
- themightychris, on 03/22/2008, -1/+4Turn the situation around before passing judgement. What if news came out tomorrow that an IKEA employee raped some women he stalked at work, and it was revealed that IKEA received this such letter months before and not acted on it. Everyone would be against IKEA for NOT suspending him immediately.
The article states that IKEA banned him from the premises until the contractor completed an investigation into the issue. The contractor, Symonds, fired him rather than bother with an investigation. Symonds deserves all the dirt here if what the article states about IKEA's terms for suspending him are true.
- spudnic, on 03/22/2008, -7/+27They should be facing criminal charges, they are complicit in his death.
- pentupentropy, on 03/22/2008, -3/+201This is ***** is what it is. There should be an investigation as to who sent the letter. If something like that causes someone to end their own life, it may not be murder but there are laws most everywhere for causal. Whoever handed out the notice to suspend him and then fire him should also lose their jobs and see how that feels. They should be published in the paper to find out how that kind of humiliation feels.
- SpectreFire, on 03/22/2008, -4/+49Manslaughter 1 at the very least. It can even be trumped up to murder if there's proof of intent.
- gak001, on 03/22/2008, -0/+6Somebody has been watching too much Law & Order. The surviving relatives have one hell of a civil case - libel, emotional distress, wrongful death, etc - but they're not sending someone to death row for writing a nasty letter.
- aigulf, on 03/22/2008, -2/+25I agree about finding the sender of the letter, but I doubt the ones who fired him from Ikea can be held legally responsible for anything beyond wrongful firing, usually just a monetary compensation or forced re-hiring. And can you imagine the fallout they would've faced if it turned out to be true and he continued working there?
Yes, an investigation was needed, and they should've kept him on pay until it was complete instead of simply firing him. His employers reacted too agressively to the letter, but the only person who was causal is the source of that letter. - GhengisKhan, on 03/22/2008, -8/+4The suicide is too removed from the incident from a legal basis. If you were falsely accused, wouldn't you fight like hell to prove your innocence?
- EllimistX, on 03/22/2008, -0/+21But by the time that happens, your reputation is shot to ***** in the trial by media...
- DeathfireD, on 03/22/2008, -0/+26Once you're accused of something harsh like rape, your life is basically ***** even if your not guilty. So I don't think there was much else this guy thought he could do since his company flat out fired him. Whoever sent the letter needs to be sent to jail plain and simple.
- ThePirateParty, on 03/22/2008, -8/+2Scientologists.
- ultraluxe, on 03/22/2008, -10/+2*****. Words don't kill people.
- chrispr, on 03/22/2008, -8/+1lol, this isn't even libel. It's a sad story, but some letter slandering someone else is no grounds for legal action, even if the person slandered decides to end his life over it.
The guy *should* have filed a lawsuit for wrongful termination. The guy *should* have found another minimum wage job, since IKEA is nothing spectacular. - haterofps3, on 03/22/2008, -0/+1Its Ikea! Get another job and fight the accuser in court! If he felt that strongly that ending it all was his last choice, I pity the man and feel for his family as he shouldn't have had to deal with that but now his family has to deal with this. Truthfully Suicide is not something to take lightly but it was Ikea, not fame not, money and certainly not power.
Life truly is unfair.
- SpectreFire, on 03/22/2008, -4/+49Manslaughter 1 at the very least. It can even be trumped up to murder if there's proof of intent.
- DeadFox1, on 03/22/2008, -3/+73the heck? This should be investigated further.
- nextyoyoma, on 03/22/2008, -3/+9maybe it's just me, but I don't understand this dumb-ass trend of leaving out "what" from expressions. Just type the damn word.
- DeadFox1, on 03/22/2008, -4/+2Don't get your panties in a wad. It's just an expression.
- xptoast, on 03/22/2008, -1/+4Um....no its just dumb.
- DeadFox1, on 03/22/2008, -4/+2Don't get your panties in a wad. It's just an expression.
- nextyoyoma, on 03/22/2008, -3/+9maybe it's just me, but I don't understand this dumb-ass trend of leaving out "what" from expressions. Just type the damn word.
- fthead9, on 03/22/2008, -3/+128What a depressing story. He obviously had a drinking problem but the story indicates he was turning his life around. The person who sent that letter should be charged with manslaughter. It's hard enough for people with addictions, whoever wrote that letter has a malicious streak that needs to be punished.
- Scynet, on 03/22/2008, -3/+2The question is, what if charging the sender of the letter causes HIM to suicide? And what if there was a perfect explanation to the reason he sent it? It's an old gliche, but the saying goes "be careful not to turn to that which you most hate."
- dagnome1984, on 03/22/2008, -0/+1What next people on the internet get charged with manslaughter for calling an emo a freak? The charge does not fit the crime. I know that here falsifying a statement like that should be more than enough to get your ass tossed into the clink. Don't yell about slippery slope fallacy because when it comes to government it has been demonstrated to happen.
- cvh™, on 03/22/2008, -47/+8Life can be a bitch sometimes...
- schroeder, on 03/22/2008, -1/+2It's more like, a bitch can be a bitch this time.
- dynelol, on 03/23/2008, -0/+1I was taking a drink when i read this, god damnit. XD
- schroeder, on 03/22/2008, -1/+2It's more like, a bitch can be a bitch this time.
- BlindingDawn, on 03/22/2008, -2/+43Man.. That is messed up on sooo many different levels.
- guillebravo, on 03/22/2008, -100/+3This is very disturbing, see what women do to us? Digg this story if you like. Feel feel to send me some shouts!
http://digg.com/odd_stuff/Sexual_favors_for_a_Gree ...- tolbs, on 03/22/2008, -3/+21wait...what?
- Tenlow, on 03/22/2008, -4/+37Spamming gets your story buried.
- oreonblade, on 03/22/2008, -3/+97I hope they reserve a special place in hell for the author of that letter.
- whereiseljefe, on 03/22/2008, -5/+9They won't cause even if they find out they won't publicize the name of the accuser, just like every other rape allegation that turns out to be false.
- bemidia, on 03/22/2008, -0/+27I'm sure that a reserved place in hell doesn't require that the media acknowledge the person.
- junaru, on 03/22/2008, -2/+8Highly doubt that hell exists at all.
- Turambar, on 03/22/2008, -0/+7the real downside of atheism :-/
- bliz, on 03/22/2008, -0/+1On one hand I wished hell exist for such people. On the other hand I doubt the existence of hell too.
- whereiseljefe, on 03/22/2008, -5/+9They won't cause even if they find out they won't publicize the name of the accuser, just like every other rape allegation that turns out to be false.
- Member148, on 03/22/2008, -9/+63IKEA should have put him on a leave of absence, until the letter was investigated further. When the letter was found to be a fraud, then they should have let him return to work without break in service.
- demonologue, on 03/22/2008, -5/+14Apparently, that's what IKEA did?
The article says, "Mr Adams worked for a contractor named Symonds employed by IKEA to collect trolleys. Both Symonds and Ikea appeared to blame one another for the loss of his employment. Ikea claimed that it had only suspended him from the premises until Symonds had carried out an investigation, while Symonds claimed that it had no choice but to let him go because Ikea would not let him work on its premises."- Zarokima, on 03/22/2008, -1/+8They fired him after the suspension.
- jm4847, on 03/22/2008, -0/+47No. IKEA should have done NOTHING without corroboration.
- Dichotomic, on 03/22/2008, -1/+22That's EXACTLY right!
- Pake, on 03/22/2008, -1/+27Exactly. Unless the police confirm something, an employer should never act off just a letter.
- TheSpook, on 03/22/2008, -0/+26So if I send a letter to your employer, assuming it's not yourself, that says you raped little boys, would you find it acceptable to go on leave without pay for a few weeks? IKEA is treading on thin ice here (at least by U.S. law). Apparently the Swedes think the idea of "innocent until proven guilty" is overrated.
- goldfishey, on 03/22/2008, -1/+7IKea should have turned the letter over to the police. Suspending him from the premises while investigated is acceptable I suppose, if there are saftey issues present. (not sure if there are here, but giving them the benefit of doubt.) It is Symmonds who failed to act properly. They fired him rather then investigate. If anything they should have suspended him with full pay - until the hoax proved then welcomed back.
- RobotBuddha, on 03/22/2008, -1/+4Everyone except people in the judicial system tends to think innocent until proven guilty is overated. It's the reason why we had to make a law to force people to comply with what otherwise would have been an emotionally unacceptable position for most.
- demonologue, on 03/22/2008, -5/+14Apparently, that's what IKEA did?
- Nitrodist88, on 03/22/2008, -75/+24In Soviet Russia... Pics or it didn't happen WTF? But... Will it blend? Will YOU blend? Pwned /sarcasm !!!!!!11!1!one!!eleventy!!!!! I for one welcome our __ overlords I'm in ur __ __ing ur __ Made with Adobe® Photoshop® Software
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3)Profit!!! Digg me down! There aren't any girls on teh internets The internet is a series of tubes My tubes are clogged!Ninjas > Pirates Pirates > Ninjas Google it, noob I'd hit it Dugg Windoze sucks! But does it run linux? Ubuntu rules! Ubuntu is for n00bs! But there are no games for linux Ever heard of WINE?? It's not Linux, it's GNU/Linux Mac > Windows Imagine a beowulf cluster of those I love Stephen Colbert! I love Kevin Rose! Micro$oft sux! Sony sucks The RIAA sucks! ***** the RIAA! The MPAA sucks! I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet I put on my robe and wizard hat What is the average airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow? Gameplay > Graphics- saxreturns, on 03/22/2008, -0/+48Congratulations on becoming everything that's wrong with digg.
- scy1192, on 03/22/2008, -2/+33you forgot "the cake is a lie"
I'm appalled- kjk437, on 03/22/2008, -0/+8You actually read through that to find "the cake is a lie" is missing.
I'm amazed.- dudeguy1234, on 03/22/2008, -0/+2I read the whole thing, and agreed with some of it :P
- kjk437, on 03/22/2008, -0/+8You actually read through that to find "the cake is a lie" is missing.
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- Zarokima, on 03/22/2008, -1/+10That's because it's amazing in all the wrong ways.
- TheJokerV, on 03/22/2008, -0/+6and also because he wasn't the original writer of the comment. That comment appeared first( with much better format) during one article's digg down party (I don't remember which article). Now it has become overused and a dead joke.
- Jeffler, on 03/22/2008, -1/+3Actually, you're wrong. He just went click happy on a greasemonkey script that improves the comment system with stuff like embedding vids and pics, and having prewritten messages. He just clicked most of them.
- Nitrodist88, on 03/22/2008, -0/+1Bingo.
- Jeffler, on 03/22/2008, -1/+3Actually, you're wrong. He just went click happy on a greasemonkey script that improves the comment system with stuff like embedding vids and pics, and having prewritten messages. He just clicked most of them.
- ElRayQuieres, on 03/22/2008, -1/+4what ads?
- Synapse84, on 03/22/2008, -1/+13forgot anything on scientology and anonymous too...
and is the unladen swallow an african or a european swallow?- EllimistX, on 03/22/2008, -0/+6Probably European, the African swallows are non-migratory...
- dudeguy1234, on 03/22/2008, -0/+2I don't know! AHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhh.....
- almightyzam, on 03/22/2008, -1/+3DOES NOT APPLY!!!
silly digger, trying to make use of all his pieces useless of knowledge he's gained from digg - Jeffler, on 03/22/2008, -1/+7Congrats on knowing how to use that greasemonkey script.
http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/7714
- jeimus, on 03/22/2008, -2/+176What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty
- saxreturns, on 03/22/2008, -0/+74Doesn't exist in the UK anymore. We're all under suspicion, under surveillance and under the thumb of an idiotic government which is obsessed with making more laws.
I realise I probably sound like your typical Daily Fail reader, in actual fact I hate it with a passion, this is my own informed and independent opinion. I find it highly hypocritical of them to report on things like this while they and other trash newspapers are quick to demonise certain people or groups of people for the sake of selling more copies.- Fatcheeseguy, on 03/22/2008, -2/+14I hope you have read 1984.
- saxreturns, on 03/22/2008, -0/+3Yes, it was double-plus good!
- Hermiod, on 03/22/2008, -0/+1I completely agree with you. I hate the Daily Mail as well, but kudos to them at least for publishing this story. Many other newspapers in this country would be afraid to in case they receive a bag full of letters denouncing them for not concentrating on the low conviction rate for real rape cases. That low conviction rate is the result of false accusers creating a boy who cried wolf scenario.
- Asystole, on 03/22/2008, -0/+7Dugg up for "daily fail"
- fuckingusername, on 03/22/2008, -0/+1in the USA that only works if your rich or work for the goverment
- Fatcheeseguy, on 03/22/2008, -2/+14I hope you have read 1984.
- Justice101, on 03/22/2008, -8/+2Where's the guy that post:
WAR IS PEACE
LIES ARE TRUTH
HATE IS LOVE
let's get him in on this ; )- h4mx0r, on 03/22/2008, -0/+8Isn't it suppose to be
WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH - NameTry2468, on 03/22/2008, -0/+5Orwell Reference.
UR DOIN IT WRONG!
- h4mx0r, on 03/22/2008, -0/+8Isn't it suppose to be
- reed311, on 03/22/2008, -3/+10You have to be careful about that. You are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law only, not in the court of public opinion. If the guy you work with is accused of raping 8 year old girls, you are going to think twice about him. It doesn't matter if he's guilty or not. Do you really want someone accused of such a crime working for you? No, it's bad for business. I'm not arguing whether it's right or wrong, but business is business; and businesses exist for the sole purpose of profit.
- Yamoth, on 03/22/2008, -0/+11As much as I hate what he is saying, it is absolutely truth. I really wish there a law where it say if a person is proven innocent, they are able to get their job back with paid of absent.
- tavisjohn, on 03/22/2008, -0/+2Soon that will be a thing of the past in the US...
- nonymous666, on 03/22/2008, -0/+2It already is. What was left of it disappered back with the O.J. trial. He was easy to pull the "guilty until proven innocent" card on but ever since him, people have been doing the same to others where circumstances are far less clear.
And don't even get me started on Nancy Grace.
- nonymous666, on 03/22/2008, -0/+2It already is. What was left of it disappered back with the O.J. trial. He was easy to pull the "guilty until proven innocent" card on but ever since him, people have been doing the same to others where circumstances are far less clear.
- extr3mer, on 03/22/2008, -1/+4It got changed to guilty until proven innocent.
- saxreturns, on 03/22/2008, -0/+74Doesn't exist in the UK anymore. We're all under suspicion, under surveillance and under the thumb of an idiotic government which is obsessed with making more laws.
- JimmySpaza, on 03/22/2008, -45/+19You feminists and leftists are to blame for creating this environment where the mere mention of the word "rape" is enough to destroy someone's life.
I would never wish such a crime on anyone...but you feminists make me want to rethink that stance.- badwithcomputer, on 03/22/2008, -5/+21not all feminists are bad. some of the ones who go to pitzer college can be a real pain in the ass though.
- burgermind, on 03/22/2008, -2/+7Squirt them with some man juice.
- badwithcomputer, on 03/22/2008, -0/+1http://masculinists.org/images/manjuice.jpg
- RobotBuddha, on 03/22/2008, -1/+3There's something very depressing in the fact that I automatically think "I wonder if she's sexist" rather than "I wonder how she's fighting sexism" when the term feminist rises. Things change a lot in 30 years.
- burgermind, on 03/22/2008, -2/+7Squirt them with some man juice.
- publiclurker, on 03/22/2008, -6/+14Leftist? I always thought they were the ones blamed for forgiving everyone and being too soft on the criminals. In this case it would be the "rightist", who shoot first and aim later, if at all.
- JimmySpaza, on 03/22/2008, -13/+5Sometimes. But, this crazy political climate where the mere mention of the word "rape" can destroy people's lives is the results of liberals, in particular the feminists...at least the vocal ones.
- saxreturns, on 03/22/2008, -4/+35Generalising wildly about feminists and 'leftists' isn't exactly going to help the situation. Oh, and saying rape is justified against feminists isn't going to do much for your credibility! The people who should be blamed, if anyone, are those who deliberately falsely accuse others of rape, and media outlets (particularly tabloid newspapers) who encourage witch-hunts and demonisation of people who haven't even been to trial yet.
Here's what I think could be done to help the situation:
- Harsher punishments for those who deliberately falsely accuse others of rape, and a fresh trial for EVERY maker of a false accusation of rape after the originally accused have been proven innocent in a court of law.
- Greater legal powers to punish newspapers and other media organisations who demonise people who have been accused of rape before they even go on trial.- JimmySpaza, on 03/22/2008, -3/+4Sounds good. I actually dugg you up.
Now, someone show me a politician who has the guts to follow through with these great ideas.- saxreturns, on 03/22/2008, -0/+6Ah yes, well, unfortunately we seem to lack politicians willing to grow a pair and say all this. It's a very sensitive issue, of course, but hopefully soon people will realise that a false accusation of rape can be equally as traumatising an experience as being raped, given the current 'guilty until proven innocent' attitude that gets whipped up with many sexual assault trials these days. I'm hoping for change sooner rather than later.
- smotpoker, on 03/22/2008, -1/+2Hard to prosecute/control the press due to fear any form of regulation being considered fascist and frequent dismissal capitalism at expense of the public as "just doing business" (unless you are famous and it makes a good story!)
- RobotBuddha, on 03/22/2008, -0/+1Any political school of thought which puts forward a philosophy so void of actual fact that they can be so easily generalized deserves it.
- JimmySpaza, on 03/22/2008, -3/+4Sounds good. I actually dugg you up.
- smotpoker, on 03/22/2008, -5/+13That is a stupid assertion. Liberals tend to believe you should investigate any credible evidence thoroughly and not jump to *any* conclusions or attack *anyone* without any definite proof and believe anyone equally unless you have hard evidence not to.
It is more a conservative and religious right view that all women are innocent/vulnerable and should be treated as such and any man who is ever accused of anything is guilty and should get the electric chair- scy1192, on 03/22/2008, -2/+3let's not drag religion into this.. you can be both liberal and chirstian/muslim/jewish/buddhist/taoist/hindu/islamic
- smotpoker, on 03/22/2008, -1/+3Sorry, hard not to because the right tends to drag it in... sometimes hard to distinguish
- Pake, on 03/22/2008, -0/+1Liberals are humans, just like conservatives and whatever label you want to throw on them. As such, like all humans we jump to conclusions and there is no bias to which group of labels is more likely to jump to conclusions than another. It's all equal.
- smotpoker, on 03/22/2008, -1/+4I disagree. Liberals tend to give people the benefit of the doubt and trust people equally without jumping to conclusions. Generally, most of us try to examine all evidence at hand objectively and defend from those who jump to conclusions based on bias or lack of evidence.
Conservatives generally seem to be infatuated with appearances and overreact accordingly... at least that the trend I tend to see. Disregard for safety, possibility of human error, intent, circumstance, etc- Pake, on 03/22/2008, -1/+3You disagree because you have a bias (which is human nature). You are jumping to a conclusion and are less likely to notice the biases presented by people who you agree with.
- Aensland, on 03/22/2008, -0/+3@Pake: just because he has a bias doesn't mean that those statements aren't true. He said 'generally', and for the most part that's true.
- smotpoker, on 03/22/2008, -2/+4I am jumping to a conclusion right now? It is a conclusion I determined a while back...
My belief is based on experience, observation and my own motivations (as well as how they're classified). I believe in holding everyone equally accountable for their actions while still accounting for mitigating circumstances. Conservatives seem to favor providing leniency to anyone who fits into a superficial image as acceptable and disregarding circumstances and opinions of others unless they have experienced them personally.
(For the record, I do not factor democrats into my view of 'liberal' for the most part). I have never actually studied politics and do not discuss it regularly until recently. My opinion is based primarily on reactions I have seen or received when various topics come up, if they are concerned with more details, how willing they are to consider context, how they seem to view others who are unconventional and whether they tend to favor authority figures or civilians when no context or facts are provided - RobotBuddha, on 03/22/2008, -1/+2Ask the liberals protesting "frankenfood" about the scientific basis of their beliefs if you want a depressing dose of human nature. Idiotic radicals come in all flavors, and logical thought is an aberration in all humans rather than the norm.
- smotpoker, on 03/22/2008, -0/+2Robo - But to be fair, the most fundamental basis for protesting frankenfoods is a protest against commercialism and corporate tendencies to produce/distribute products without proper considerations for ecology or health.
There is always the fact that a lot of activist causes are considered "trendy" to youths because of the anti-authoritarian aspects and lack of individual ridicule, just like many youth tend to fall into conservative political philosophy because they have heard it is more Christian or patriotic. In both cases people on both ends of the spectrum tend to support each other and similar causes without knowing all the details at times.
"Human nature" is a bit of an oxymoron. What defines us as humans is the ability to perceive and use patterns to overcome nature when necessary and define a sense of morality
- smotpoker, on 03/22/2008, -1/+4I disagree. Liberals tend to give people the benefit of the doubt and trust people equally without jumping to conclusions. Generally, most of us try to examine all evidence at hand objectively and defend from those who jump to conclusions based on bias or lack of evidence.
- scy1192, on 03/22/2008, -2/+3let's not drag religion into this.. you can be both liberal and chirstian/muslim/jewish/buddhist/taoist/hindu/islamic
- whereiseljefe, on 03/22/2008, -3/+4The bigger problem is not the false accusations of rape and sexual harassment (but they are big problems), its that rape and sexual harassment have been redefined.
Now rape is unwanted sex. How many people here can think of a situation where they got drunk and had sex with someone they didn't end up wanting to have sex with? (okay this is digg, stupid question)
Technically, that's rape now.- smotpoker, on 03/22/2008, -2/+2Technically, that is only rape if they didn't intend to get intoxicated (ie drugged), AFAIK
- tolbs, on 03/22/2008, -3/+6The hate you spew on a daily basis never ceases to amaze me. Blaming special interest groups for the demise of a man does not accomplish anything. How about we hold the people involved accountable for their actions and call it a day, ok?
- JimmySpaza, on 03/22/2008, -3/+1Hey! Let's put all the blame WHEREVER it belongs. That is the ONLY way to fix the problem.
- jm4847, on 03/22/2008, -6/+4The correct term is "feminazis" but yeah, I see your point.
- chochazel, on 03/22/2008, -1/+1The point that anyone who's ever said that rape was a bad thing is directly responsible for this man's death?
Not merely the most irrational and hysterical of them?
Not the people who sacked him?
Not the people who sent the letter?
Why blame them when you can push an illl conceived thinking by numbers agenda?
I'm struggling, what point are you seeing?
- chochazel, on 03/22/2008, -1/+1The point that anyone who's ever said that rape was a bad thing is directly responsible for this man's death?
- chochazel, on 03/22/2008, -1/+6Personally I believe that everybody who holds an opposing view to me is equally responsible for all the bad things that happen in the world. If all the people who disagreed with me only realized this, then all the bad things that happen in the world would suddenly stop.
This is my world view and I thought about it very hard.
/Sarcasm
Are you human? Enter some text that represents coherent thought. - topapito, on 03/22/2008, -2/+7So let me guess. According to you, leftists and feminists are to blame. Which obviously means you have taken the time to thoroughly research and possibly contact everyone involved and have specifically asked them whether they were feminists and leftists. No? Ok, then I suggest you go and obtain a card from the "ignoramus" club. They called, and they want brain back from you. You idiot, it is people like you who cause these problems. Rather than classify people as humans, you must, in your ignorance, further classify them as leftists or rightists, republicans, democrats, whites and blacks. Well idiot, I have bad news for ya, this happens where people never heard of the word leftist, or even feminist. And you know why? Because humans, yes, humans, are like this. We tend to classify people like you just did. Only the ignorant people in this article didn't classify this guy a leftist or feminist, they classified him as a rapist. See the difference? No? Thought so.
- sugarape, on 03/22/2008, -2/+2Right, because all feminists routinely accuse innocent men of rape, and then deliberately stir up a mob mentality throughout the masses to drive said innocent men to suicide.
Jackass.- JimmySpaza, on 03/22/2008, -3/+1Not ALL feminists...but most have that attitude. I'm not talking about the woman who considers herself to be an intelligent, strong woman. I'm talking about the National Organization for Women, NARAL, and other feminists who whine all the time and protest. You know who I mean.
And your name calling means that you cannot debate the issues...only respond with emotion and feelings...not logic. :-)
- JimmySpaza, on 03/22/2008, -3/+1Not ALL feminists...but most have that attitude. I'm not talking about the woman who considers herself to be an intelligent, strong woman. I'm talking about the National Organization for Women, NARAL, and other feminists who whine all the time and protest. You know who I mean.
- talonstriker, on 03/22/2008, -0/+2Oh man I gotta add you to my friends list so that I get a laugh everytime you post.
- badwithcomputer, on 03/22/2008, -5/+21not all feminists are bad. some of the ones who go to pitzer college can be a real pain in the ass though.
- Morality, on 03/22/2008, -0/+26Couldn't he have sued his employer for firing him? I mean he should have turned his misfortune into his own fortune.
- secrity, on 03/22/2008, -1/+5It sounds like he was not emotionally or possibly not even intellectually able to investigate his options, whatever they may have been.
I suspect that appealing to Ikea's fear of negative publicity regarding the firing may have had some possibility of getting him reinstated; if not by the contractor, perhaps as an Ikea employee. - NnyCW, on 03/22/2008, -1/+2Of course, during this entire time, he would have been most likely cast out by many family and friends and treated coldly by others. You know, for that whole (false accusation of) potential rape of not only women but children as well thing.
With the witch hunt style thinking of this situation, unless you are found completely guilty with mounds of evidence, and then move away from everyone who could possibly know you (and hope they never stumble across anything about it), I doubt one would ever be free from this.
The only fortune would have been in monetary amount.
- secrity, on 03/22/2008, -1/+5It sounds like he was not emotionally or possibly not even intellectually able to investigate his options, whatever they may have been.
- Motif31G, on 03/22/2008, -17/+4wow that is terrible, i do love ikea though
- digitallysick, on 03/22/2008, -0/+36His family if he has any, should sue IKEA , this mans life was ruined by a letter. Can you imagine coming into work and everyone, co workers, and management think your a rapist? The damage was done, even if he wouldn't of killed hisself, and later the letter was found to be false it would be to late, the "label" given to you would be set.
- 1timeuser, on 03/22/2008, -0/+12I dont think suing IKEA would really change much. Suing the management of that store in particular however would teach them to do some background checking before they decide to go ahead and destroy a mans life.
- jm4847, on 03/22/2008, -1/+15If they blindly believe what the letter said, they are ***** morons. Can people be THAT stupid?
- tavisjohn, on 03/22/2008, -0/+10Yes they can. In fact, I have seen stupider!
- infinitiesedge, on 03/22/2008, -1/+2Buried for stupidity.
- tavisjohn, on 03/22/2008, -0/+10Yes they can. In fact, I have seen stupider!
- whereiseljefe, on 03/22/2008, -3/+27Of course the person who sent in this letter will not come to justice, just like the other 50% of rape accusations that turn out to be false don't result in the punishment of those that did the accusing (and never have their names released either).
http://www.glennsacks.com/- aresaypay, on 03/22/2008, -0/+17I'm waiting for this to appear on glenn sacks. Men are treated like ***** in today's society, we are deemed child molestors, rapists, and wife beaters until proven innocent
- NnyCW, on 03/22/2008, -0/+3...and even in a case where proven innocent, still carry the burden of having been at one point labeled a wife beating, child molesting, rapist.
That's the kind of thing that doesn't typically go away the second evidence to prove otherwise is produced.
- NnyCW, on 03/22/2008, -0/+3...and even in a case where proven innocent, still carry the burden of having been at one point labeled a wife beating, child molesting, rapist.
- aresaypay, on 03/22/2008, -0/+17I'm waiting for this to appear on glenn sacks. Men are treated like ***** in today's society, we are deemed child molestors, rapists, and wife beaters until proven innocent
- TheLastFreeMan, on 03/22/2008, -0/+11He should have stayed alive and sued them for mishandlement of information, failure to launch a proper investigation and gotten millions.
- fLUx1337, on 03/22/2008, -9/+7I find it strange that this guy killed himself after his boss told him he had raped 3 people! Same goes for why IKEA sacked him - even though a suspected rapist should be in custody.
Something just doesn't add up, really....- Wackoman, on 03/22/2008, -4/+2I'm wondering the same thing. Spidey sense tinkling.
I think the drinking probably compounded some depression issues and martial problems he may have had.
I'm sure the loss of his job had a part too of course.
There still is potential he has had some crime in his past that he couldn't live with anymore.
Innocent until proven guilty I know but this seems odd. - Sirlolalot, on 03/22/2008, -1/+7RTFA, this guy was 51 years old,his life had been turned upside down, his relationship with his partner was 'down the pan' oh and to add insult to injury he couldnt even keep his ***** trolley collecting job.
put yourself in his shoes for a moment. :/- Wackoman, on 03/22/2008, -2/+2I did read the article. I still think there's more to it. I know its dangerous to swim against the digg stream though.
I think that this guy may have been spiraling prior to his Ikea incident honestly.
- Wackoman, on 03/22/2008, -2/+2I did read the article. I still think there's more to it. I know its dangerous to swim against the digg stream though.
- Wackoman, on 03/22/2008, -4/+2I'm wondering the same thing. Spidey sense tinkling.
- Zane, on 03/22/2008, -18/+3His life couldn't have been too swell to begin with if he was working at an IKEA store. That's sad.
- jm4847, on 03/22/2008, -0/+16Why not? Not everyone wants to go to college and be rich and have a family. Some guys just want a simple, easy life for themselves. Nothing wrong with that.
- Asianwaste, on 03/22/2008, -0/+23Yea knew a teacher that killed himself after some kid's parents frivolously sued him and unfortunately he was losing his court battle. He was standing to lose everything.
- goldpress, on 03/22/2008, -0/+13Which is the exact reason - as a teacher - I keep plenty of insurance. I've worked too hard for crap like this to come along and take it all away. People who do this to others deserve nothing less than to burn in the deepest part of hell.
- eean, on 03/22/2008, -12/+4dailymail ftw
:| - jo21, on 03/22/2008, -3/+4this sounds like they are hiding some info, who the hell would do that?
if he knew they were false he would have fought against the accusations not hang up himself...
this sounds like a homicide- Morphine7399, on 03/22/2008, -0/+9read the entire article...
"Mr Adams' life went downhill as he struggled to recover from the accusations.
He failed to get his job back after being sacked in January. His drinking led to problems with his partner and he spent the last few nights of his life sleeping in a storage shed at the bottom of the block of flats in which he lived. "
- Morphine7399, on 03/22/2008, -0/+9read the entire article...
- al11588, on 03/22/2008, -27/+0I want to shout out my myspace myspace.com/al11588
- supermanred, on 03/22/2008, -1/+11Shut up, *****. Go back to ***** space.
- dynelol, on 03/23/2008, -0/+1His mouth is ***** space.
- supermanred, on 03/22/2008, -1/+11Shut up, *****. Go back to ***** space.
- chrissku, on 03/22/2008, -3/+53So IKEA fires people based on allegations? I'll take all future business elsewhere. Their actions contributed to a mans death.
- secrity, on 03/22/2008, -1/+4Ikea didn't fire him, he was an employee of a contractor. Ikea banned him from the store until the letter was investigated and the contractor fired him because he was banned from the store. Ikea should not have banned him from the store until it investigated the letter, and I am quite sure that Ikea could have gotten the man reinstated. I will not be buying from Ikea in the future.
- xlneoMAXlx, on 03/22/2008, -2/+1Their actions contributed to a man's death.
- secrity, on 03/22/2008, -1/+4Ikea didn't fire him, he was an employee of a contractor. Ikea banned him from the store until the letter was investigated and the contractor fired him because he was banned from the store. Ikea should not have banned him from the store until it investigated the letter, and I am quite sure that Ikea could have gotten the man reinstated. I will not be buying from Ikea in the future.
- KRNpro, on 03/22/2008, -0/+5That's so sad.
- loveforkarma, on 03/22/2008, -1/+11The movie Hard Candy reminds me a little of this.
- ultraluxe, on 03/22/2008, -7/+3Except that guy was actually a rapist. hurrrrr
- kukiweed, on 03/22/2008, -0/+0Where's the ***** spoiler warning???
- ultraluxe, on 03/22/2008, -7/+3Except that guy was actually a rapist. hurrrrr
- hollywoodphony, on 03/22/2008, -8/+1I've wanted to send a letter like that to Ikea before. All those little screws never fit right.
- FearFactory, on 03/22/2008, -1/+7whoever sent that letter better watch their back, you can run but you can't hide.
- charris1980, on 03/22/2008, -1/+15IKEA and all companies should learn from this. They should learn not to pull the trigger so fast when accusations are made. IKEA should've secretly called the authorities and started an investigation. I bet they suspended him on the spot of receiving the letter, which is wrong.
- Monarch818, on 03/22/2008, -0/+3No, the correct thing Ikea should have done is contact the contractor, inquire if a background investigation had been done on the employee in question, if so and nothing came up, then the letter should be sent to police for investigation into criminal false accusations of rape. If no background investigation had been done, Ikea should have asked the contractor to perform a criminal background investigation, takes less than a day anymore, then if the employees background check is clean, forward the letter to the proper authorities to investigate criminal accusations of the letter.
- topapito, on 03/22/2008, -12/+3So let me guess. According to you, leftists and feminists are to blame. Which obviously means you have taken the time to thoroughly research and possibly contact everyone involved and have specifically asked them whether they were feminists and leftists. No? Ok, then I suggest you go and obtain a card from the "ignoramus" club. They called, and they want brain back from you. You idiot, it is people like you who cause these problems. Rather than classify people as humans, you must, in your ignorance, further classify them as leftists or rightists, republicans, democrats, whites and blacks. Well idiot, I have bad news for ya, this happens where people never heard of the word leftist, or even feminist. And you know why? Because humans, yes, humans, are like this. We tend to classify people like you just did. Only the ignorant people in this article didn't classify this guy a leftist or feminist, they classified him as a rapist. See the difference? No? Thought so.
- burgermind, on 03/22/2008, -0/+7I agree, but use "Reply to this comment" so people don't think you're schitzo.
- jblen, on 03/22/2008, -0/+3The funny thing is I was reading topapito's comment and thinking "WTF?"
- topapito, on 03/22/2008, -0/+7You are so right, and I apologize, never even noticed I did that. Heh, and here I am calling the guy an idiot. Lol.
- wyzzerdd, on 03/22/2008, -3/+5Perverted Justice kills again.
- AmericansRevolt, on 03/22/2008, -16/+9guilty until proven innocent. velkomm to amerika 2008
- scy1192, on 03/22/2008, -2/+14dailymail._co.uk_
its British. Not to say that couldn't happen in America. - burgermind, on 03/22/2008, -0/+9It's in the UK
- AmericansRevolt, on 04/05/2008, -0/+0haha sorry... well... amerika 2008 runs through the entire population of this planet so... if youre not one of us youll be infected soon enough. peace! :)
- scy1192, on 03/22/2008, -2/+14dailymail._co.uk_
- jm4847, on 03/22/2008, -0/+10A person's word should never be enough. Someone is accused and the populace (mindless idiots) don't care about all the facts, everyone just assumes they're guilty.
I don't see myself in this situation (for reasons I won't reveal here) but let's just say, I'd have a passport ready just in case if I was the kind of guy to sleep around. And consent forms.- aresaypay, on 03/22/2008, -0/+9once you're a registered sxe offendor you're life is over. I agree, it makes sense to have a passport ready and be able to start life over in another country in case you're falsely accused and ***** starts to hit the fan.
- goldpress, on 03/22/2008, -0/+6Sex consent forms... is that form available online somewhere? Also, should this be notorized? I'm just stuck on the scene: Sign here, here, and initial here --- excuse me, that's not a pen.
- FatLoser, on 03/22/2008, -0/+2Yeah, it's a pencil... you can't sign contracts in pencil because its mark can be manipulated or erased too easily.
- bxblox, on 03/22/2008, -0/+9Men just get the short end of the guilty until proven innocent argument if the accuser is a woman. What happens if a woman doesnt know who her babies father is? She can take every man shes ever seen on the street to court for child support and if any refuse to give their dna to prove they are not the father they are found to be the parent by default and ordered to pay. You never hear feminists argue against sexist laws like these because they only want to be equal when its beneficial to them.
- ccheath, on 03/22/2008, -2/+1i do get what you're trying to say, but... if you didn't sleep with her, then just give up the dna sample... and if you did... own up to the fact that you may be a father soon and give up the dna sample as well... if you are the father then you do owe... duh...
- jm4847, on 03/22/2008, -0/+2The concept of "privacy" isn't something you're familiar with right? Plus she should have to supply SOME evidence that we slept together or GTFO.
- bxblox, on 03/23/2008, -0/+1Thats like the police coming to my door and saying, "Hey somebody was killed in this neighborhood last week. We have no evidence that you were there or had an altercation with this person, but if you didn't do it you wont mind letting us search your home. If you're innocent you have nothing to worry about, if youre guilty then you should be in jail." Being innocent is not a good enough reason to let someone invade my privacy.
- ccheath, on 03/22/2008, -2/+1i do get what you're trying to say, but... if you didn't sleep with her, then just give up the dna sample... and if you did... own up to the fact that you may be a father soon and give up the dna sample as well... if you are the father then you do owe... duh...
- abox813, on 03/22/2008, -6/+9We need to investigate if this has anything to do with Scientology.
I wouldn't be surprised; the CoS uses this tactic to silence its threats.- TheSpook, on 03/22/2008, -1/+5What, did the CoS get some bad furniture from this guy?
- Berkana, on 03/22/2008, -0/+4No, they'll send false letters of accusation to harass people at their workplace, and stop at nothing to destroy the lives of its critics.
See this: http://digg.com/odd_stuff/The_Scandal_Behind_the_S ...
- Berkana, on 03/22/2008, -0/+4No, they'll send false letters of accusation to harass people at their workplace, and stop at nothing to destroy the lives of its critics.
- aprestia, on 03/22/2008, -0/+3Like I posted elsewhere, it seems like a ridiculous connection but it's frighteningly possible - maybe this guy wasn't a critic even, it wouldn't be the first time they targeted the wrong person with one of their smear campaigns - they could have easily thought they had rooted out an Anon and been taking action against them...
- TheSpook, on 03/22/2008, -1/+5What, did the CoS get some bad furniture from this guy?
- FaithclubDotNet, on 03/22/2008, -3/+22There is a commandment to not bear false witness. If you want to mess up someone's life, there are all sorts of evil things you can do. Words can kill. Sticks and stones is just an excuse.
- Jeveran, on 03/22/2008, -6/+4Please keep in mind that not everyone subscribes to Judeo-Christian dogma.
- xlneoMAXlx, on 03/22/2008, -1/+2You missed the point.
- dudeguy1234, on 03/22/2008, -1/+2Why are people digging you down? I mean I understand faithclub's point.... but I'm moral because I want to be, not because some book threatened me with eternal damnation from the benevolent GOD if I didn't pray to him every Sunday.
- FatLoser, on 03/22/2008, -0/+1Who gives a *****? The guy was making a point, not preaching. The commandments are generally good suggestions, so just because you don't believe in God that doesn't mean you should bang your neighbor's wife and kill people whilst bearing false witness against poor old trolleymen.
- Jeveran, on 03/22/2008, -6/+4Please keep in mind that not everyone subscribes to Judeo-Christian dogma.
- RyeBrye, on 03/22/2008, -3/+22Perhaps he was murdered, and now people are falsely accusing him of suicide.
- ElRayQuieres, on 03/22/2008, -4/+3It's not murder, it's ketchup.
- jjive, on 03/22/2008, -3/+22Damn Swedes, I almost hung myself after putting together my kitchen table.
- jjive, on 03/22/2008, -10/+1BTW, I predict a massive amount of digg downs.
- dudeguy1234, on 03/22/2008, -0/+1You are correct. You just had to leave yourself open like that didn't you?
- FatLoser, on 03/22/2008, -0/+1would have been so much better if you just left your original comment on its own... it was a pretty solid joke that has been tarnished by your followup.
- jjive, on 03/22/2008, -10/+1BTW, I predict a massive amount of digg downs.
- KodomoNoJikan, on 03/22/2008, -15/+6Suicide is never the answer. He should have seen a theRAPIST
- Wackoman, on 03/22/2008, -1/+6Is that you Xenu?
- byrdgang, on 03/22/2008, -5/+3I'll digg you up to make you feel like you made a good joke.
- Wackoman, on 03/22/2008, -0/+3wow that's almost a compliment.
- dudeguy1234, on 03/22/2008, -0/+1SO IS YO MOM!!!11!!1!!!
/sarcasm
- dudeguy1234, on 03/22/2008, -0/+1SO IS YO MOM!!!11!!1!!!
- Wackoman, on 03/22/2008, -0/+3wow that's almost a compliment.
- Steeple, on 03/22/2008, -1/+3they targeted a vulnerable guy, if he'd had his wits about him he could have got ikea and the police on the phone to each other and confirmed this was a ***** letter.
Ikea seems fairly blameless, their contacter should have checked this out asap, the mailer should go straight to hell- secrity, on 03/22/2008, -1/+2Ikea should have investigated the letter before taking any action. Ikea is not blameless; it shares the blame with the ***** contracting company. I will not be buying any more Ikea products.
- FatLoser, on 03/22/2008, -0/+1Ikea should OF* investigated...
- secrity, on 03/22/2008, -1/+2Ikea should have investigated the letter before taking any action. Ikea is not blameless; it shares the blame with the ***** contracting company. I will not be buying any more Ikea products.
- acoustix, on 03/22/2008, -14/+5I gotta say man, there ain't much in this article proving his innocence or guilt.
Just because he has never been found guilty of a sex crime in the past, does not mean that he is not guilty of a sex crime or offense. The woman may have been too ashamed or in a stressed state (which a woman should NEVER BE if she is a victim of a sex crime, dont be stupid i had a friend who didn't report some dumb kid who raped her cause she was scared) to report it and the only way to seek vengeance was to screw this tapped dudes life up.
It also says "he was off the drink", which leads me to believe, if I'm interpreting dialects correctly, he had been an alcoholic at one point. If so, why an alcoholic?
I could be totally wrong. He could have been totally innocent, and an alcoholic at one point in his life, and depressed enough to consider suicide, but you know what... He sure fits the profile, don't he?
It's called profiling.
This is your crime.- JonTheGoose, on 03/22/2008, -1/+7...........
So all alcoholics are rapists?- acoustix, on 03/22/2008, -7/+1I think you misinterpret. What I mean to say is he fits the profile of an offender (abused drugs/alcohol, quiet, obvious suicidal tendencies...)
- Aensland, on 03/22/2008, -0/+6According to that line of thinking, all guys could be rapists too. Hey, it fits the profile ("male").
- absurdist, on 03/22/2008, -1/+5Just because you've never been convicted of a crime, you may still be guilty of rape. So I think we on Digg should act as vigilantes and send letters to your employer demanding you be fired. Once you've been put in that untenable position, maybe you'll think about how completely asinine your statement is. Good luck with that whole empathy thing.
- vdog, on 03/22/2008, -1/+2Profiling is based on probability, it's not enough to establish guilt or innocence. He should not have been fired until that had been established, and the woman's letter should have never have been taken at face value.
- yacks, on 03/22/2008, -1/+5If your friend did not want to report it then that's her fault. You just cant say, "well I don't want to go to the police, so I'll just screw up his life." That can backfire on you. Perhaps Ikea were to investigate.. find out that no police report was ever filed.. Lets say he really did rape someone, who would appear to be the liar? You will have a harder case to prove in that case because they will question your credibility. Of course, if it weren't for false accusations, they wouldn't have to go that far.
If you want to ruin his life, report it. Get him off the streets. You keep him on the streets, you are only allow him to abuse other women.
- JonTheGoose, on 03/22/2008, -1/+7...........
- bdc83, on 03/22/2008, -1/+10You will never find a more vocal rape victim advocate than me, but this story makes me sick. Has everyone in this world forgotten about the concept of innocent until proven guilty?
- willywong, on 03/22/2008, -2/+1I hear rapists like them vocal.
- webefools, on 03/22/2008, -1/+25this is sad... it's always about the women being victimized... tend to ignore or forget that the men can be victims too...
- thailand1972, on 03/22/2008, -0/+3True. You can bet if they unearth this lying women, we will learn of her "mental illness" and how the voices in her head made her write the letter, and we should feel sympathy for such a tortured soul as this poor poor woman.
- webefools, on 03/22/2008, -1/+3Boycott Tib... err... IKEA!!!
- webefools, on 03/22/2008, -1/+2and China!!!
Free Tibet!
- webefools, on 03/22/2008, -1/+2and China!!!
- WarfareArtist, on 03/22/2008, -2/+14Was the woman a scientologist?
- aprestia, on 03/22/2008, -0/+1I dugg this initially cause I thought it was a funny joke, but the more I think about it the more I realize how frighteningly possible it is... Even if this guy had no beef with the sci's, it wouldn't be the first person they accidentally targeted the wrong person in one of their smear campaigns...
- blast_flame, on 03/22/2008, -1/+15Remember kids, before sending that false accusation think of what it could do to the other person's life.
- pintomp3, on 03/22/2008, -2/+7is there a less sensational source for the story?
- limoo, on 03/22/2008, -2/+1I agree. This reeks of sensationalism. It seems like this guy was having problems already. Most people, when falsely accused, fight back, not hang themselves.
There have been a few cases of someone impersonating a police officer over the phone and demanding a fast food restaurant supervisor strip search an employee. AFAIK, those employees prosecuted successfully, not committed suicide.
- limoo, on 03/22/2008, -2/+1I agree. This reeks of sensationalism. It seems like this guy was having problems already. Most people, when falsely accused, fight back, not hang themselves.
- letherial, on 03/22/2008, -6/+2I hope everyone who reads this learns a valuable lesson, no matter what you hear of what people do keep a open mind, lets assume that he did it...he would of done his time and been just trying to live with everyone else...that still, he was innocent, wich shows you the mod like mentality is still there, this is a witch hunt and it realy is getting out of control. There are so many more bad things that happen because of this type of mentality then good things.
- JohnFlux, on 03/22/2008, -0/+1I can't understand your english
- dudeguy1234, on 03/22/2008, -0/+1That was ENGLISH?!
- djphilos, on 03/25/2008, -0/+0It's piss poor English.
- dudeguy1234, on 03/22/2008, -0/+1That was ENGLISH?!
- djphilos, on 03/22/2008, -3/+1Alot of gamers have a mod like mentality. Is that bad? Wich is it Yes or Know?
- JohnFlux, on 03/22/2008, -0/+1I can't understand your english
- lydecker, on 03/22/2008, -1/+2I wish I didn't believe this were possible, but there's way to many people out there who don't see a person, and just see a criminal. And, in this case and others, there was no crime, but the damage was done. If anybody has any ideas on how to fix the human desire to demonize people as subhuman, I'd really like to hear it.
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