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- inactive, on 07/04/2009, -1/+81WTF? Madoff is supposed to be penniless by now, no?
- PlusTheBear, on 07/04/2009, -3/+61Azkaban?
- vaguilera, on 07/04/2009, -6/+58"...We get caught laundering money, we're not going to white-collar resort prison. No, no, no. We're going to federal POUND ME IN THE ASS prison...."
Bernie... watch out for your cornhole, bud. - swordedge, on 07/04/2009, -5/+45Put him with Butch... the one packing ten inches... He is getting lonely. This way, get gets what he did to others.
- mogebier, on 07/04/2009, -7/+40He didn't commit a violent crime, so he will be put in one of those "White Collar" prisons where the inmates live in cells that are more like apartments. He won't have a cell mate. He will live the rest of his life in extreme comfort, but without the ability to go anywhere.
Just watch.
He won't go where he belongs to get raped every day in the shower.
It will never happen. - jrm125, on 07/05/2009, -1/+31These guys just never accept responsibility, do they? It's always about finding a way out, or skirting the norm.
- BubonicLouie, on 07/05/2009, -1/+29At what point did we Americans except rape as an allowable punishment for our prisoners?
- inactive, on 07/05/2009, -0/+26Can he pick his own jail? What a soft ***** up system you guys have.
How can he afford one of these consultants?
Although I liked this line: "He could be forced to mingle with murderers, rapists, drug-dealers and white supremacist gangs with a hatred of Jews. Madoff is Jewish."
Lolz!! - aethelberga, on 07/05/2009, -0/+17I figured he'd end up at one of those Club Fed places, considering his influence and his age, but who knew there were such things as prison consultants?
- khsheehan, on 07/05/2009, -0/+16What the ***** are you talking about?
- YoWhatDaFuxUp, on 07/05/2009, -0/+15FTA:
"The draconian maximum sentence imposed by the judge means that Madoff, 71, will be assigned to a tougher category of prison than most white-collar criminals." "He could be forced to mingle with murderers, rapists, drug-dealers and white supremacist gangs with a hatred of Jews. Madoff is Jewish." - DaDrake, on 07/05/2009, -0/+14I am just curious. If Madoff was a female, would diggers be advocating the rape and dehumanization of him? Do people somehow think such comments are acceptable because rape isn't something that happens to men, or if it happens... men deserve it? How about the Texan mother who drowned her children... would it be socially acceptable to wish for her to be raped in public?
Just food for thought. I've just noticed when men do horrible crimes, people hope for prison rape; when women do horrible crimes... people are civilized about it and manage to limit the emotional responses. - Gev1982, on 07/05/2009, -1/+15He gets to pick? What kind of nonsense is this?
- Konrad9, on 07/05/2009, -0/+13I'm sorry, why are you allowed to choose your prison?
- kagebutsu, on 07/05/2009, -0/+12“But it’s patently unfair to cast him as a symbol of all evil.”
Cry me a ***** river. - Inceptious, on 07/05/2009, -2/+13you're naive if you think they can just instantly take away all his money. It won't all be in one bank account...
- Crass22, on 07/05/2009, -1/+11Yeah because its so funny to joke about men getting raped in jail. But the second you joke about a woman getting raped....
- brucealmighty, on 07/04/2009, -7/+17Payback is a bitch, Bernie. Here's hoping your cellmates have no more sympathy for you than you did for all your victims.........
- inactive, on 07/05/2009, -2/+12Rape is illegal. Somehow in jail it becomes acceptable and legal to rape someone?
With that philosophy, with aren't we killing everyone who committed a murder? - chaos7, on 07/05/2009, -2/+12kneejerk reaction. modern man realizes there should be no punishment, only rehabilitation.
- enclaved, on 07/05/2009, -1/+10Don't send him to prison. Send him to my house. I need a butler.
Seriously, I saw it on an episode of Seinfeld. It'll work - JordanTW90, on 07/05/2009, -0/+9Just for fun, could you provide the name of the jail? I'd really like to check that out.
- tgc1, on 07/05/2009, -0/+9It's like those sorts of people figure they are above everyone else. I bet he doesn't even FEEL guilty. That ***** should feel lucky he's not dead. I'm sure the people who lost their life savings were sharpening their pitchforks.
- inactive, on 07/05/2009, -2/+10You're seriously not comparing one of the greatest presidents ever, a man who pulled us out of the great depression to this cheap scam artist? What are you smoking and where can I get it?
- inactive, on 07/05/2009, -0/+8I'd kill to stay at a place like that.
- fury420, on 07/05/2009, -1/+9there's a place near here that's on beautiful oceanfront property in the forest, complete with a large golf course. The inmates get their own apartment/townhouse style dwellings, have "jobs", and even get "paid" (fake money) for those jobs so they can "buy" luxuries, all while safely behind bars.
- YoWhatDaFuxUp, on 07/05/2009, -4/+1285 mph on a highway is not that big of a deal.
Hefty fine sure, but definitely not jail. - blackinthmiddle, on 07/05/2009, -1/+9Unfortunately, it seems apparent that the Madoffs knew they were going to be arrested long before they actually were. It explains why his wife, on two separate occasions within a week before being arrested, took out millions from the bank. Were the Feds able to seize that money? Did it end up in an off-shore bank somewhere? I'd be shocked if the guy who robbed his own family and was smart enough to swindle intelligent people out of billions upon billions of dollars wasn't smart enough to tuck a few dollars away in accounts that can't be traced to him.
- blackinthmiddle, on 07/05/2009, -0/+7While I dugg you up, this is *always* the norm for powerful, influential people. My wife works as a guidance counselor in a rich suburb in Westchester, New York. The kids learn very early on that they can get away with absolute murder. And as much as we'd like to say, "Oh, when they get out into the *real world*, they'll learn that mommy and daddy can't protect them forever", it's pure *****. Often these guys have enough influence to create their own little world where nothing is ever their fault and they never, ever, EVER have to learn what accountability is. The real world for them is what their money and influence can get them, which, not surprisingly, looks nothing like the average person's world!
- Ninh, on 07/05/2009, -0/+7Rura Pente comes to mind. Or maybe Crematoria.
- copypastry, on 07/05/2009, -0/+7Looking for the prison with the lowest average ***** size?
- SEN5241, on 07/05/2009, -1/+8He needs another consultant to help him pick the best anal lube to use.
- blackinthmiddle, on 07/05/2009, -0/+6Your judgment is clearly clouded by your personal experience. You're definitely not being objective. Let's break this down objectively:
o Did Madoff break the law? - If you haven't figured this one out by now, there's no hope for you.
o Did Madoff rob people (including his own family members) of billions and billions and billions (and billions) of dollars? - again, if you don't know you haven't been paying attention.
o Are there 70+ year old people who are now penniless - unfortunately, yes
You say, "Yes, he stole money - so what?" very flippantly. What would you be saying if you had to give up *your* house because of this thieving bastard? What would you be saying if your grandmother could no longer afford her $300 a month in medications because of this scum? Many of the older people he robbed built up their wealth over an entire lifetime. If you have money in your family, maybe it's "easy come, easy go". For guys who are first generation Americans and have been working like hell to carve out the American dream, especially the elderly, what Madoff did is nothing short of a death sentence. A slow, painful one.
And btw, when you break the law, don't expect a pat on the back. It's called a "deterrent". I bet you don't do 85mph anymore. Let the punishment fit the crime. 150 years, while it won't help the thousands upon thousands of people this devil has now destroyed, will make other copy cat artists think twice. - shniper, on 07/05/2009, -0/+6That sounds way better than my life. How do I get in?
- inactive, on 07/05/2009, -5/+11I hope the other inmates shred his sphincter and keep on going.
Madoff destroyed thousands of people's ability to live the lives they worked hard for. I've read accounts where people are now rummaging through dumpsters to feed themselves when they should be living off their hard earned retirement money. That is as bad as rape, but it never ends for them. They are ***** for life.
They were not "greedy thieves" for investing their money, just looking for what they thought was the best deal for them.
Also thanks for telling us about your ordeal, but this thread is not about you. You broke the law, you have no moral authority to tell others what to think or feel. - inactive, on 07/05/2009, -2/+720 MPH over AND an expired license is kinda a big deal.
- fury420, on 07/05/2009, -0/+5its the William Head correctional facility or somethin like that, out near Sooke, B.C.
its quite the beautiful location, located on a peninsula jutting out into the pacific with beaches on both sides. In terms of locations to spend one's life sentence, it seems like a pretty nice one to me - Duffalpha, on 07/05/2009, -1/+6Im confused..... When did rape become a justifiable response to fraud?
- damian001, on 07/05/2009, -1/+6Do you expect me to read all of that *****?
- CivicTV, on 08/14/2009, -0/+5No he cannot pick his jail, its all based on a point system. Your sentence depending on severity is a point, what you have done with your life (college, army etc.) is a point, priors are points. They all add up and then they try to send you to a prison thats within 500miles from where you live. Thats just the system in a nutshell.
- inactive, on 07/05/2009, -0/+5It's a common practice. Consultants cost from $2000 to $10000 dollars and sometimes more for this. They are usually ex-lawyers, or lawyers that had some experience with the Board of Prisons. They go on a points system. He turned himself in, age, health, etc. It is probably a fact, where he lands, he stays, so that will have bearing on where he goes.
The worst Light Security is better than the best Medium Security prison. I don't care if he lands in the lightest of the light security prisons. He's there for good. My thoughts bring me to the group he is protecting, and where all that money really went.
It's time to try and recover that money and return it to the rightful owners! so they can get on with their lives. He sentenced them to poverty, and no amount of time in prison would fix that for them. He should be charged with the process of helping every last victim in person, all day long, to help them with their finances. For real. Every step in the right direction earns him something positive in his life (in prison).. - jrm125, on 07/05/2009, -5/+9Madoff effectively raped thousands of peoples' bank accounts. Turnabout seems like fair play to me.
- j0en, on 07/05/2009, -2/+6He's right even if it is just a non-biased story it is best never to support the Fox hate machine
- Khast, on 07/05/2009, -0/+4I don't feel pity for Madoff....just put him in a jail that doesn't have overcrowding...but make sure he has a bunkmate named Bubba.
And give Bubba a special T-Shirt that says "A Present from the Investors - Enjoy" - orville1151, on 07/05/2009, -0/+4Maybe what they should do is bargain for points.
Say, subtract 5 percent from his final score for every billion dollars he can "find".
That way he can get a better prison and more people can get at least some of their money back.
After all, the important thing is to recover as much of the money as possible. - brucealmighty, on 07/05/2009, -0/+4Federal regulations compute a 'score' for each prisoner which determines which class of jail he is assigned. It's all handled by a prison board and not by the judge. One of the criteria is that anyone with unserved time remaining in excess of 30 years (allowing for time already served and projected time off for good behavior) is automatically to be sent to a "high security" institution. This is the highest/most dangerous class of prison except for the 'maximum security' facilities where inmates spend 23 hours a day alone in their cells. Bernie is no doubt paying a consultant to try to find some means of obtaining a waiver on this point as aside from the length of his sentence he would be eligible for a much lower security (and much less dangerous) facility.
- jturbo, on 07/05/2009, -4/+8Did they pull this "article" from his lawyers blog? This isn't journalism, it's a "poor Madoff" piece. Good form Fox N3ws and the T1mes of London, good form. I see the Rothschilds are sad to see their stooge go.
- Eurynom0s, on 07/06/2009, -0/+4Driving at 85 is fine, driving like a jackass is what causes accidents.
Driving at 85 != driving like a jackass. - analogkid01, on 07/05/2009, -3/+7...I like the buttsex idea better.
- Jeepinator, on 07/05/2009, -2/+6Except rehabilitation doesn't work. Killers are killers and frauds are frauds.
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