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- alfredscakes, on 04/21/2009, -3/+58In fairness it's about time he was freed. Yes, he was a villain but to my knowledge he never killed anyone although I suppose he was complicit in the death of the train guard but it was a long time ago plus you only have to open the papers or turn on the news bulletin to hear how child killers and drunk drivers get months not years. I am getting really hacked off with our double standards in this country.
- MrCrissypoo, on 04/21/2009, -0/+33I question why this needs to be asked, while rapists and sexual offenders are quickly released on parole, only to become repeated offenders.
This man poses no threat to society, yes, he was a convicted criminal, but that's been dealt with. I think it's time to forgive and move on, I doubt he'll be robbing any more trains with that back of his. - jiggawatt, on 04/21/2009, -2/+24So of his 30 year sentence, he served 15 months, escaped, went on the lam, then turned himself over in 2001. I dunno... everyone want's go to say "ahhhh he's an old man he wont hurt nobody", but he did, and he didn't pay his debt to society. He spent his freedom outside and postponed his time for his last years apparently.
- Wolfie351, on 04/21/2009, -3/+22I can't understand people saying he "did his time" He didn't, he escaped prison and lived a full life only to turn himself in 8 years ago. He has spent less than 10 years of his 30 year sentence, not including additional time for escaping. Had he not escaped, he would have been released in 1993...perhaps much earlier with good behavior. Let him rot.
- RansomHoldiay, on 04/21/2009, -0/+16he should. that would make him one of the most bad ass mother ***** ever.
- chicagojack, on 04/21/2009, -1/+14Doubt he robs another train
- Langford, on 04/21/2009, -1/+14But do we as a civilization want the criminal corrections systems to be about revenge for misdeeds, or to be about preventing future misdeeds? If this guy isn't going to rob another train, than keeping him in serves no purpose.
- littlenan, on 04/21/2009, -11/+23I think it is just spite that is keeping him in prison. He is an old man and prison is no longer needed to stop him robbing trains.
Yes, he was part of the gang where one member fatally injured the train guard but I believe he has done his time for that. Don't get me wrong, nothing can ever pay for a fatal injury but he was not the man who did it and when you look at the villains walking the streets today, you wonder who is keeping him behind bars and why. The man who did strike the guard should have had life imprisonment.
Yes, let him out to die but do not allow him to mix with other criminals and the papers should not make a hero out of him. He is not a hero but I do not think he is as much a danger to the public as many of the criminals Labour have persuaded the authorities to release. Let Biggs out and get some of these vicious thugs back behind bars or deport them if they are foreign..Just make sure they do no come back in.
VOTE BNP and get the justice system sorted out. - inactive, on 04/21/2009, -0/+12heh if he successfully pull that ***** off again... he deserves the booty... or rather, the train passengers deserves to be robbed!
- mrhahn, on 04/21/2009, -3/+13Uh.. you had me up until the BNP comment.
- titstes, on 04/21/2009, -3/+12Train robber, escapee, on the run for 30 years......
He has served 7 years of 30, parole in this case should not be granted.
he is not a model prisoner that should be granted early release privileges. - SocialPoison, on 04/21/2009, -0/+8The joke is going to be on you pricks when he hi-jacks an Amtrak train bound for Louisiana
- mmittimm, on 04/21/2009, -1/+8I've got to agree, sure he may no longer be a threat, but he had 30 years on the lam to savor freedom. It sucks for an old guy to rot in jail but he's just getting what's coming to him. If he'd done his time and not escaped I'd say by all means parole him, but he should have to play by the exact same rules everyone else has to play by.
- inactive, on 04/21/2009, -2/+930 years is a very steep sentence by todays norm. I heard that a London Cab driver got eight years for sexually asaulting numerous women in the back of his cab. Why didnt he get 30 years?
This man is old. They should let him go. - adeelarshad82, on 04/21/2009, -2/+8I agree with the first two comments. Plus even though training robbing is a thing in the past but lets say that he does rob one. He's 80. Honestly much can he run. You will probably find him in the nearest hospital.
- borez, on 04/21/2009, -0/+6"VOTE BNP and get the justice system sorted out."
As much as I agree some way with your sentiment, having considered it myself and very nearly becoming a card carrying BNP member before talking to one of my LSE political science professor friends ( who FTR has spent his whole life dissecting the ins and outs of political dissent caused by extraordinary circumstance and the rise and fall of extremist parties who use these circumstance to gain power ) therefore seeing sense. IMO actually having a BNP elected government would lead to a situation within the UK tantamount to a pre WW2 Nazi elected power. i.e. Not a particularly good look, and not something I wish for the future of my country. It would lead to all sorts of ***** when you actually sit down and think about it properly mate. Sorry to ruin the illusion, but it's asking for trouble. - UK31337, on 04/21/2009, -1/+6The BNP would be a disaster, they're just fascists preaching rhetoric and I have serious doubts about their ability to run the country. Hell, if they were that good they would have a much higher profile than they already do.
- UK31337, on 04/21/2009, -0/+5Hmm, kind of torn about this one. I can't predict whether or not he's going to get parole; chances are he's too old and infirm to do a runner but, in all fairness, he did escape from jail 15 months into his sentence and hide in a country with no extradition treaty with the UK for close to 30 years. He is a convicted person, with a history of escaping from lawful custody, and he is serving a long sentence for a notorious high-profile crime which took a lot of careful and deliberate planning to execute and used a lot of violence.
News of the World says he's definitely getting released though: http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/134965/Ronnie ... - solid12345, on 04/21/2009, -0/+5I disagree, justice knows no time limit, if you can charge someone for committing a murder 50 years later why not a Nazi? And its not like those being chased were just simple Wermacht soldiers who just did their duty in the battlefield, they go after the truly sick ***** who were behind torture, genocide and rape.
- MonkeyNews, on 04/22/2009, -0/+4Normally this would make sense if he was actually incarcerated since 1963 - but he escaped 15 months later and spent 30 years on the run.
Since he has only been inside since 2001, the question is if 8-9 years is long enough for the crime he committed. - borez, on 04/21/2009, -0/+4At UK31337: I completely agree, but you've got to look at the Nazi party and it's history to really appreciate how the underdog can quickly sweep the votes from absolutely nowhere, it only took the right situation and the right propaganda in times of economic crisis i.e. exactly the same conditions we are heading into at the moment. The parallels are uncanny, and so is the sentiment rising within the UK.
It's a little scary to be honest. - RansomHoldiay, on 04/21/2009, -1/+5godwin so fast. what a ***** comparison.
- petebot, on 04/21/2009, -0/+4Listen here, see, you’re gonna put that money in the giant sack with the dollar sign on it, and you’re gonna like it, see, or I’m gonna fill your belly full of lead, see...
- inactive, on 04/21/2009, -1/+5BlackJack...since when do YOU get to decide what hte purpose of prison is for?
Prison is to keep dangerous people off hte streets. But it is also to PUNISH criminals for past cimes. This man did not serve his punishment.
Sorry...but you can't just facts around to what you want them to be. - ployd, on 04/21/2009, -0/+4Sounds like he's getting ready for the biggest heist EVER!
- Dove, on 04/21/2009, -0/+4"Tough Guys II"
- LingNoi, on 04/22/2009, -0/+4The joke is on you for not realising this is about a person from the UK jacking a UK train.
- kingatrock, on 04/21/2009, -1/+4If you need the room to house a serious threat to society then let him out I say. Otherwise, meh.
- WiLdRiCe, on 04/21/2009, -0/+3he can want a lot of things, you cant just rewrite his sentencing because he looks like a nice old man
- RumpleForeskin3, on 04/21/2009, -0/+3I changed my Free Kevin bumper stick to Free Ronnie just for him
- kelvintso2005, on 04/21/2009, -1/+4Government Costs:
Old Train Robbery in 1963: 2.6 Million Euros
30 Years of chasing: 20 Million Euros
Not expecting a robbery of a bullet train form an 80 y/o man: Priceless - Burmanator, on 04/21/2009, -0/+3FREE HAT!
- tizle, on 04/21/2009, -0/+2You ignore the part where he was absconding for 30 years. I agree that he isn't a threat to society, but I don't agree with your reasoning that he turned himself in. If he did that 30 years ago, that would be a different case.
- SoCalChris, on 04/21/2009, -1/+3If he'd done his time like a man, he would have been out years ago. Let him rot.
- LargeStack, on 04/21/2009, -0/+2Well we thought piracy on the high seas was a thing of the past.
Now they just dont have parrots and peglegs. - phoenix3dd, on 04/21/2009, -0/+2Somali Pirates are the new Train Robbers.
- borez, on 04/21/2009, -0/+2Oh and I must add, the guy struck with the Iron bar in the robbery didn't actually die. Well not until 1970 that is... of leukaemia.
- Psara, on 04/21/2009, -1/+3I'm really concerned about him stealing my petticoats. Keep him jailed!
- Gixxer18, on 04/22/2009, -0/+2The dooshnozzle never did the time for the crime - I hope they increase his sentence for escaping.
- shodanx, on 04/21/2009, -0/+2yep, prison isn't about punishment or revenge.
if the only thing that keeps a citizen doing the right thing is fears of punishment and revenge, then he is not good at all - BlackJackJester, on 04/22/2009, -0/+1He didn't commit any crimes that we know of in the past 30 years, and if he hadn't turned himself in, he would still be out there. So I'd say, he probably does have all those things.
And yes it does help society not serve his sentence. It saves money.
And if old people commit crimes, obviously they'll commit crimes if they're old - moot point. - mmittimm, on 04/22/2009, -0/+1@comfort:
Well said. Don't worry about the moron(s) who dugg you down. - DDRSkata, on 04/22/2009, -0/+1Ronnie Biggs was doing time
Until he done a bunk
Now he says he's seen the light
And he sold his soul for punk - inactive, on 05/12/2009, -0/+1Dude, you've never been to jail, have you? I'd rather kill myself than spend even 1 year in jail.
- MonkeyNews, on 04/22/2009, -0/+1BNP? haha - what a muppet.
- travisty17, on 04/21/2009, -0/+1He was 30.
- inactive, on 04/21/2009, -0/+1He should have to serve the rest of his life for the musical crimes he committed working with what was left of the Sex Pistols.
- robbob, on 04/21/2009, -0/+1The Greatest Rock 'n' Roll Swindle
- jasonh1234, on 04/22/2009, -0/+1Not Woody Harrelson and Wesley Snipes?
- djAnakin, on 04/29/2009, -0/+1So.. this guy got how many years? Yet murderers, rapists, and child molesters get months?
This is ***** up. Let the man go. -
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