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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+122Damn, that makes me feel uncomfortable just watching him. Limbaugh clearly has a right to disagree with Fox but to mock him and question whether he is "playing it up" is really inappropriate. I think even dittoheads are a little put off by that.
- dortiis, on 10/12/2007, -8/+93I'm sorry, i HAVE seen Rush's video, and he was not mimicking to illustrate the effects. Rush was deliberately and purposefully mimicking a disease he cannot even begin to understand, for the purpose of making Fox look like a liar and a cheat.
Rush is a horrible person for what he has done, and no matter how much backpedaling he can pull of during the next few weeks, i have lost all amounts of respect for that man.
I started out hearing it from Rush's side, on his news radio show, i did not form any opinions at the time, but instead decided to research it fuller to understand. I have had experience with some people in my life dealing with Parkinson's and i know what it can do to them. Michael's commercial to me appeared to be nothing more than the outcry of a man looking for an answer to the problems that face many Americans, and to him, the candidate he was endorsing seemed the best method to get his point across. Seeing the original Rush video after this make me disgusting. I have not seen anything so obnoxious and petty as what he did that day.
After seeing this confrontation and Rush's childlike response to the situation, I cannot help but worry about the state our country has evolved to, for there to be people so STUCK with their current political party, that they blind themselves to a sad and ignorant issue such at this. - flernk, on 10/12/2007, -3/+78@fox40
You didn't even watch the interview. Your comment reveals your ignorance. - stan205, on 10/12/2007, -7/+76Fully agree. I'm all for having debates based on the issues, but when it comes to mockery and making inflammatory statements just to win votes that's just low no matter what party you side with.
- DrinkingNyquil, on 10/12/2007, -1/+58@fox40
"Its already low for Fox to make fun of a disease that affects millions by intentionally not taking his medicine which was developed to treat it."
Sounds like you know as much about Parkinson's as Rush. It is the medication he takes that CAUSES the symptoms you see in the video.
In the absence of medication, Parkinson's sufferers experience a paralysis that typically renders them unable to speak. - eplawless, on 10/12/2007, -5/+58fox40 - please watch the video before you comment
- chicken101, on 10/12/2007, -5/+57I have so much respect for Michael J. Fox.
- Dingle, on 10/12/2007, -8/+59I have such little respect for Rush Limbaugh.
- jdavid, on 10/12/2007, -2/+36The problem in this country is we have thrown our right to reason and talk out the window, in favor of entertainment! I hate party politics and I think we should be able to vote on more issues as a country, this is not a party conversation.
Thank you for the direct link to youtube. - Hulka, on 10/12/2007, -8/+37@ killinger777
A friend of mine summed up my thoughts on the matter quite well...
Regardless of your political beliefs ... Rush Limbaugh is a big fat idiot. The video of Rush Limbaugh swaying back and forth to ridicule Michael J. Fox, and his assertion that the actor's Parkinson disease symptoms are all an "act" ... are digusting. I will tell you what's an act, Rush. Big fat idiots going on the radio saying that all drug users should be put in jail and throw away the key ... and then crying like a baby and paying tens of thousands of dollars on lawyers to stay out of jail, when that drug abuser who gets arrested turns out to be YOU, you big fat idiot. Now that's an act! - chicken101, on 10/12/2007, -2/+28http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhtYk5crxVY
There's the video of Rush making fun of Michael. - florin, on 10/12/2007, -3/+25Dugg just for the direct link to YouTube.
- parnelljw, on 10/12/2007, -3/+24Thank God for people like Michael J. Fox. I mean look at his approach to this. How can you not admire him. We need more people like him, without Parkinson's, and fewer people like Limbaugh.
Hey Rush - didn't catch Michael calling you a fat pill popping pig did you? Yea, we all missed that one too. That's why he's Micheal J. Fox and you're just a mouth with a microphone. You could only hope to strive to this mans sense of dignity and class.
Next time maybe Rush will keep his mouth shut. Or not....somehow his type never get it. - sereth, on 10/12/2007, -2/+24Why does Rush feel he has to imitate fox? I know it's claimed that he wanted to show his web viewers what Fox was doing in the commercial. I mean...are his viewers unable to watch the commercial? I would think that if his viewers were smart enough to watch him on the web that they could follow a link somewhere to see the commercial. Plus he didn't do a very good imitation. He looked more like a bobble head on Oxycontin.
My favorite part of the Curic interview is when Fox points out that the same people criticizing him about using his celeb status to platform are in themselves highly paid celebs doing the same thing...
Has it sunk in yet that the spasms are a result of TAKING the medication? Anyone want to take bets how many people will continue to post that he should be ashamed for not taking medication and making the commercial....
Also if anyone critical of Fox bothers to actually watch the curic interview you may actually hear his side of things and his views on stem cell research and what he supports. Why don't you listen to him instead of your news filter pundits. All he wants is dialog . He sees the other side of the story and he knows there's no guarantee that there would be a cure but he thinks science should be allowed to progress and discover if there is one. - weddle, on 10/12/2007, -1/+22Being a child of the 80's this video really makes me sad.
- GregR, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21@Abjure "He totally exaggerated it, hes just calling out to all the bleeding hearts"
You clearly have never known someone with Parkinson's! My brother suffered with this horrible disease for 10 years and died recently - a young man.
During the past few years, his symptoms were much worse that what is seen on the videos, so pull your head out of your ass and start using your brain. - yidali, on 10/12/2007, -2/+22this is hard for me to watch, watching someone with Parkinson's makes me really depressed.
- chris9902, on 10/12/2007, -5/+24The reason people don't understand is because they don't want to look what this does to people.
you should ram this video done everyone's throat who doesn't want to see how their ignorant beliefs affect real people. vote for change! - markcrules, on 10/12/2007, -4/+21I am not American and have no personal interest in your politics, but to attack Michael J Fox is seriously sick.
- mt066, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16I think that's why this video has generated such controversy, because it plainly displays the effects of a disease that people turn their backs on when they reject such research. Instead of confronting this fact, people's guilt just causes them to change the issue to "he was faking it" or "he is being manipulated by other people" because in reality they are too stubborn to admit their position hurts people.
- lebe0024, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18It's a shame what Rush did. There's no need to attack Michael J Fox personally like that. Embryonic stem cell research can be argued against for ethical reasons without having to resort to character assassination.
- flernk, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15killinger777? Oh, that's right, he never says anything worthwhile, so I blocked him.
- FTLJohnson, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16Michael J Fox says that the big irony was that he was OVER medicated.
I think the big irony is that SO was Rush when the ACLU defended him.
Fox40 is a just another example of how partisan politicos ingore evidence in favor of an emotionally created neurochemical stimulation. - bpwwhirl, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16This is not a debate about Iraq, man. Don't make this into a debate over party politics please.
- Niten, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13Of course there's no _proof_ that stem cell research will cure this disease; until scientists and universities can get federal funding for research on these widely available stem cell lines, we'll probably never know one way or the other. That's the point of this current debate.
- bouche, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13I grew up looking up to Michael J. Fox due to his characters. BTTF is one of my favourite movies of all time.
After watching this interview, I am looking up to him the way everyone should be.
I love his regarding how he's "learned to throw vanity out the window" and that he had enough years of "people thinking I'm pretty and teenage girls hanging my picture on the wall".
The guy is still young and he's giving it his all! - posterposter, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15@chicken101
Thanks for posting the link, but I can't believe how sick I feel after watching Rush behave that way. Stuff he said used to be frustrating at times, but after seeing him act like this, it's pretty much taken his power away. I don't think I can ever take what he says as being serious again. - Jansson, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11@Snoopy
Talent supported a bill that would ban embryonic stem cell research (2002), then changed his stance in February. He announced his opposition for the stem cell ballot initiative.
Republicans like to call that "flip-flopping". Maybe he should have "stayed the course". - sundancekid503, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13@killinger777
Name calling aside you must be permanently biased if you don't see some truth in what Hulka's saying. How can anyone with a reasonable mind actually back Limbaugh on this? Limbaugh has become nothing but a mockery of himself. - DrinkingNyquil, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12You know what? This is still America, isn't it? If someone like Michael J Fox has the money and the means to put out a commercial supporting a candidate, he can do it any way he likes. When the hell did Republicans start quivering and fainting at somebody's right to exercise free speech? They sure didn't kick up a fuss when Fox did the same kind of commercial for Arlen Specter a few years back.
Oh! Oh! I do declare, how dare Michael J Fox videotape a commercial during one of his bad days suffering a terrible disease. I do believe I feel a weakness in the knees. Jeeves, the smelling salts, a fit is coming over me. Mercy. - seanherman, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13For skeptics, imagine if Limbaugh mimicked the behavior of a down syndrome child who appeared in an ad. Would your reaction be different? I don't see how this situation is significantly different.
Also, of course it's an emotional appeal. Of all the sorts of political advertisements we're exposed to, these ads are the probably the most respectable. They ask challengers to re-evaluate their beliefs, when confronted with the face of a Parkinson's sufferer. Anti-abortion advocates are doing the same thing all the time, using images or small children to elicit an emotional reaction from opponents of their position. - mapkinase, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Kudos to submitter.
1. Good descriptive title referring to current context without overly explaining which interview and what subject
2. Title is so good that the post itself clarifies the submission in the context of digg, namely, by specifying that current post does not have a typical blunder of bad diggers. - DrinkingNyquil, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13Yes, yes, we've heard that tired argument from Ann Coulter concerning the 9/11 wives. I suppose all those who are passionately involved with an issue that directly affects them should shut the hell up in your version of America.
If "Fox's view is incorrect", Rush could have stated how he believed it was incorrect, and cited the source of his information, and there would have been no uproar.
Instead, Rush accused Fox of faking his symptoms and mocked him repeatedly. THAT is what caused the uproar.
Fox looked like he was attacked unfairly because he was. Rush attacked him personally instead of addressing the issue. Your argument is the strawiest of straw men. - Jansson, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Thanks for posting this. It's very hard to watch, but I think it's important for people to see. He takes an excellent stance on it, because people are constantly trying to make issues like this a battle of science vs faith/religion.
- kavery, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Perhaps if you cut your nuts off, you could see it for yourself.
- dortiis, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10@Snoopy7176
Why do you keep asking that? Would you ask an AIDS patient on his death bed if he thought it was right to get AIDS in the first place? Michael J Fox is NOT flawless, but he is the only one in this confrontation that is acting like an adult and thinking beyond his own self. I'm actually having a hard time myself even becoming as close to calm and collected as Fox is in every interview I've seen him in since he was diagnosed, and the fact that people can argue against a currently incurable illness truly shows the level of ignorance this country has dipped too. - sych0, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13thats one of the biggest hypocrisy's of the right wing
- kolop1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9 Whats wrong with Fox using this as an emotional plea for help. Also whats wrong with him supporting the democrats if he feels the democrats are the most likely to help fund research to find a cure for this disease.
There are lots of people with this disease that do not have the type of pull, that a celebrity has. I like to think, if I am ever struck with an incurable illness, that I would do everything in my power to raise awareness about it, and everything in my power to make sure every measure is being used in an attempt to find a cure for it. - DrinkingNyquil, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8This means that the longer Michael J Fox suffers the disease, the more rigid his muscles become, the more paralyzed he is, and the less able he is to speak correctly WITHOUT MEDICATION.
If you observe video from a few years ago, you would not see the same symptoms you saw in the recent commercial because Fox probably did not need the medication in order to overcome the level of paralysis he had. Again: it is the medication that CAUSES the symptoms in the recent commercial.
Parkinson's does not cause wild and uncontrolled movement.
Parkinson's is a disease which gets progressively worse.
Parkinson's causes paralysis. Which gets progressively worse.
As it gets worse, patients require medication just to move or speak.
A side effect of the medicine is what you see in the video.
It's a tradeoff between immobility and the ability to move and speak.
I can't make it any more clearer than that. - DrinkingNyquil, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10@franksmith
"MJF has admitted to doing ads before and purposely NOT taking his meds for dramatic effect. He says he didn't do it this time but personally I have a hard time believing anyone that would do it the first time."
Parkinson's disease belongs to a group of conditions called movement disorders. It is often characterized by muscle rigidity, tremor, a slowing of physical movement (bradykinesia), and in extreme cases, a loss of physical movement (akinesia).
So tell me, genius, if Parkinson's disease causes muscle RIGIDITY, a SLOWING OF PHYSICAL MOVEMENT, and in extreme cases, a LOSS OF PHYSICAL MOVEMENT, how can Michael J Fox not taking his medication cause him to appear as he did in the video?
If he didn't take his medication, he would be unable to move or properly speak. The symptoms that you saw in the video are a result of the medicine he takes to treat the disease.
I am SICK of people spouting foolish opinions on things of which they know nothing. , and making up lies like "MJF confessed to not taking his medication in the past."
Oh yes I remember that commercial where he didn't take his medication and stared at the camera for 30 seconds without saying a word, very effective indeed. - kolywater, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9@snoopy
then, before shooting his mouth off, rush should have done a little research and found out if fox had taken his meds. it was a personal attack. rush was too friggin lazy to dig up the facts before speculating. - rtini, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Rush Limbaugh is still, apparently, a big fat idiot. It sure is weird that he is so rich.
- Moonpig, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I'd rather be a bleeding heart than have no heart at all.
And you probably call yourself a Christian, why do so many Christians act so unChristlike. - Hubris, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8It's always interesting that when there is any remote political bent to a story, it always ends up coming down to politics, ignoring any other factors.
The real story here is that Rush made a personal attack against Fox, and because people are either supporters of Rush, or supporters of Republicans, they cannot see the issue past the party lines. Just because you like support the Republicans or because you are against stem cell research, doesn't mean you should be completely unable to perceive when a Republican does something wrong....and that is what seems to be happening here. Nobody has yet presented a valid argument how one man mocking another is appropriate...but it's sure interesting to see some of you try.
Fox has done plenty of PR to try advance the cause of Parkinson's research...unfortunately none of it hits front page news like controversies like this. Just because YOU haven't seen something on Fox News doesn't mean it hasn't happened. - sereth, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8
You do know that not being on meds makes Parkinson patients stiff right?
I'm assuming you do because I'm assuming you did real research..Did you bother to watch the interview? Did you know that Fox wants to use embryonic stem-cells from Invitro clinics that are slated for destruction anyways? I would love to see someone say to me with a straight face that these embryonic cells should not be used for testing but should be destroyed instead. - feelingfunky, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Funny that Rush of all people would accuse someone else of being a shill for a particular party... I find that disturbing.. but not as disturbing as his comments that MJF was purposely overacting (playing up his disease). Shame on you Rush. It is like saying that a mother of a drunk driver shouldn't campaign for stiffer DUI laws by supporting a candidate that is going to do just that. silly ... he still shouldn't mock him, especially if he is serious. Sometimes we all poke fun at others but in jest is ok... not seriously ... Shame on you Rush.
- DrinkingNyquil, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Parkinson's disease belongs to a group of conditions called movement disorders. It is often characterized by muscle rigidity, tremor, a slowing of physical movement (bradykinesia), and in extreme cases, a loss of physical movement (akinesia). The primary symptoms are the results of excessive muscle contraction, normally caused by the insufficient formation and action of dopamine, which is produced in the dopaminergic neurons of the brain. Secondary symptoms may include high level cognitive dysfunction and subtle language problems. PD is both chronic, meaning it persists over a long period of time, and progressive.
Do you need a dictionary definition of the words "chronic" and "progressive"? - sych0, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Its not necessarily about iraq. Its about the whole gun-toting, pro-death penalty, pro-war right wing. Why are they pro death on most issues but anti choice when it comes to science and abortion? Do they hope the embryo might grow up to be repbulican?
You say stem cells might not be a definitive cure. Perhaps if they had the opportunity to develop the science, they could find out. - vernsan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6When I was younger I use to watch Michael J. Fox in the movie "Back to the Future" all the time. I never knew he had Parkinson's disease until just the other day. Seeing him with that made me sad, I have always liked this guy, hope he gives a strong fight.
- bpwwhirl, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Disturbing images may not make people change their minds about certain issues, but they at the very least get people talking about the issues at hand. Discussing controversial topics like this encourages people to learn and become educated about current events/topics. Naturally, there is a point where displaying disturbing images becomes ridiculous and unneccesary (such as displaying aborted fetus pictures on placards in front of store windows), but denying the possible information and education people can get from such things is ludicrous.
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