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- FuZi0nDET, on 06/13/2009, -1/+37Just so you know that legalizing marijuana isn't going to be the be all end all solution here. The gangs that they worked for paid these guys cash money and keys of cocaine to finance these hits. This article didn't cover this, I've read a few different articles on these guys. This ***** still blows my mind. I could be wrong here, but I'm pretty certain that the cocaine trade represents more $$$ for these gangs than weed. So even if weed were legal they'd still have cocaine, meth, heroin, and so on to smuggle and kill over.
- inactive, on 06/13/2009, -8/+44Send these kids to Harvard Business School, so when they destroy people's lives running real businesses, at least it will be legal.
- Barackalypse, on 06/13/2009, -8/+36FTA: "Cardona's gang tosses Orozco onto his back and one of them unloads a clip from an AR-15 into his body. As Orozco thrashes in the grass, gasping and dying,"
First, an AR-15 doesn't use clips, it uses magazines. An M1 Garand is an example of a weapon that uses a clip. Second, the normal capacity magazine is 30 rounds, so if this guy was thrashing in the grass grasping and dying, these guys were truly awful shots. Finally, street gangs have been using teenagers for killings for decades, thanks to the way our judicial system works they often get much lighter sentences, so this is hardly revolutionary, even if it is the first time a Mexican cartel has done it. - TheNyquilKid, on 06/13/2009, -5/+30Hopefully this will wake some people up and understand there is a huge problem.
A huge problem that we can logically solve extremely quickly if we as a country admit what we were taught to believe about cannabis is false. Doesn't take much effort to find the truth either. Start on wikipedia, if you become interested then visit all the others including the DEAs own site.
"Marijuana isn't addictive, however learning about it is."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_history_of_mari ... - Kohaxx, on 06/13/2009, -4/+27They should never be let out of prison, even if they did cooperate. Cold-blooded monsters being taken for a ride.
This border war doesn't get enough attention. - FatGuyLilCoat, on 06/13/2009, -0/+18I dug you cause you're still alive.
- Jeveran, on 06/13/2009, -1/+18It's going to take some entitlement-laden politician-spawn's kindapping and/or bloody, violent death to get more attention paid to the hot war on our southern border.
- folwanmojo, on 06/13/2009, -0/+16weird how this all happened in my hometown.
- Nydendarin, on 06/13/2009, -2/+13Is it just me, or did the opening paragraph read like the introduction of a cheesy romance novel?
- stubear, on 06/13/2009, -1/+11They paid these guys with coke. Last I checked coke was slang for cocaine, not marijuana. I'm all for legalizing marijuana but you'd have to be an idiot to think that all the drug war problems will disappear if you legalize all drugs. First of all, drug cartels are NOT going to just throw up their hands and say, oh well, it's legal, what will I do now? Second, the money spent on incarceration will likely go to treatment programs and I'm not so sure I want my tax dollars being spent on either, certainly not rehabilitating people who don't know how to control themselves. Crystal meth, crack cocaine, and heroine are all drugs that are the bane of communities regardless of their legal status. These are not recreational drugs, they are slow painful death, not only of the person taking them but of family, friends and communities.
- kagebutsu, on 06/13/2009, -0/+10Wow that's some seriously ***** up *****.
- FatGuyLilCoat, on 06/13/2009, -1/+11From the second page....
"Tattooed on his eyelids, in crude ink, is another set of eyeballs." - gumhucker, on 06/13/2009, -0/+10He tattood eyes on his his eyelids
- mille716, on 06/13/2009, -2/+111.) No, the AR-15 uses a detachable magazine that that feeds its clip.
See "Mail Call" for more details.
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids. ...
2.) The point wasn't that the street gangs were using teenagers. It's that the MEXICAN gangs have now used AMERICAN teenagers for assassins. That's a major shift in this drug war that deserves our attention. - brainwash, on 06/13/2009, -3/+12WTF is up with this guys eyes in that picture?
- 12916studios, on 06/13/2009, -0/+9How long do you bet until someone buys the film rights to this story?
- mille716, on 06/13/2009, -1/+8Why if only there was some article that would explain why he did that?...
- tehknotte, on 06/13/2009, -4/+11@ person above me, your username makes your opinion in this matter void.
- TheNyquilKid, on 06/13/2009, -1/+8I read it thinking the reporter was on a ride along to witness a murder.
- jgtg32a, on 06/13/2009, -0/+6If it happened on the good side than the good side wouldn't be the good side would it?
- crysiss, on 06/13/2009, -3/+9The Hanson Brothers more precisely.. They couldn't get back into the spotlight, so they resorted to illegal activities.
- se7envii, on 06/13/2009, -1/+7Anything can be psychologically addictive to a degree as long as there is some reward.
- TheNyquilKid, on 06/13/2009, -9/+15If people would wake up and realize they have been fed nothing but lies on the subject of marijuana, thousands upon thousands of people would have never died.
- foxility, on 06/13/2009, -1/+7Yeah, i was starting to get a little wet
- darthweder, on 06/13/2009, -1/+6I believe your sarcasometer is broken FatGuy
- Ajajadude, on 06/13/2009, -1/+6If it's not drugs, it'll be something else. Making weed illegal doesn't turn good people into bad people. People like this would have found some way to take advantage.
- Zarchon, on 06/13/2009, -0/+5Cocaine is the drug mentioned in the article. I know all you pot heads would love for your favorite recreational drug to be legalized but it doesn't seem that would make a difference in this story.
- CivicTV, on 08/14/2009, -1/+6For those who do not know, Laredo is in Texas. You know the United States.
- folwanmojo, on 06/13/2009, -0/+4hah, guess so. the article talks way more about "the zetas" than I actually knew before. kinda scary.
- srs2000, on 06/13/2009, -2/+6Should send them off to a dark hole and brand them all as terrorists. It is what they are.
- joe86s, on 06/13/2009, -1/+5tell that to the mexican, and recently american, police and family who've lost loved ones, friends, and co-workers
and the trouble with drug gangs is that they're rarely limited to drugs-- just look up the rate of kidnappings in mexico as drug cartels have grown more powerful. i'm sure you wouldn't be saying "let then kill each other" if this were happening in your backyard... - Barackalypse, on 06/13/2009, -1/+5You do know most of the victims were murderers and drug dealers themselves, right?
- inactive, on 06/13/2009, -1/+5Even if weed was legalized, the allure of the illegal drugs will continue.
The only long term, rational solution, is full legalization.
Yes, it sucks. Being able to buy meth at the 711 would ruin many lives.
But it takes a wise and educated mind to look at the bigger picture.
And that big picture with respect to prohibition is far, far worse than legalization. Simply read this article and recognize it will only get worse. Far worse.
I'm all for weed. I smoke it everyday. I have for over 13 years and I am 27.
But legalization cannot stop with weed. It simply can't.
Legalizing weed would be a great thing for society for many reasons. Namely, its a far safer intoxicant than alcohol.
But legalizing other, harder drugs would be bad. Keeping them illegal would be even worse.
Make the sane, long term, educated choice. Full legalization.
Take all that drug war money (over $1 TRILLION dollars in 40+ years) and invest it into the biggest education campaign the world has ever seen. If the USA is the leader in world affairs then lets tackle this issue, grab it by the horns. The entire world will follow us in the quest for legalization. Just like they did for prohibition. - c0mputar, on 06/13/2009, -1/+5Prohibition of any kind creates a black market. The black market is controlled by violent gangs whom cannot be defeated.
Tell me what's better: Creating an incentive for an unending wave of violence and removing personal freedoms, or doing neither? - MadtownTim, on 06/13/2009, -0/+4Too bad the author of the article doesn't know that I-35 runs from Laredo to Minneapolis, not Chicago. Two cities that aren't even close to eachother.
- TheNyquilKid, on 06/13/2009, -3/+7I love that people are digging me down, it shows how clueless the general public really is.
Marijuana has never killed anyone, ever, not in thousands of years.
Marijuana prohibition kills thousands a year, I believe it's around 2000 people already this year in Mexico alone.
The government has mastered throwing out statistics that show how bad marijuana is, and the statistics they should are absolutely right. What they fail to mention is the negative point they are trying to prove only exists because of their misguided attitude toward it. They present things such as "X number of teenagers go to into treatment every year because of marijuana alone." They leave out that these numbers are so because a judge says they can go to jail or they can complete a youth offender program.
I honestly believe people tend not to believe what the pro-legalization crowd has to say because it is just so logical and obvious that if what we are saying is true it wouldn't be illegal in the first place. But folks I have done hundreds of hours looking into this issue for myself, keeping an open mind as long as I could, and I can not find one single reason why marijuana should be illegal. I have had lengthy sometimes heated debates with people and I asked them to give me one reason and to this day it has not happened. - jgtg32a, on 06/13/2009, -1/+5Because weed is the only drug that the cartels run
- joe86s, on 06/13/2009, -1/+5there's not as much demand for hard narcotics-- without marijuana, the drug cartels lose a major source of revenue. maybe then they won't be able to buy arsenals which outpower the mexican army...
- andreusboy, on 06/13/2009, -0/+3I thought the exact same thing but back to square one?
- TheNyquilKid, on 06/13/2009, -1/+4Agreed, so are cookies, sex, and working out.
There is zero physical dependency though. Caffeine can't even claim that, well it can but it won't make it true. - folwanmojo, on 06/13/2009, -1/+4hahah. this all happened in the bad side of town, pretty ghetto there
- iSinned, on 06/13/2009, -0/+3That was very well written, to the very last word. It had my attention the whole way through.
- Dissipate, on 06/13/2009, -0/+3The death penalty aside, life in prison seems too lenient for someone who tortures and murders another human being. And why is it that the parents of these psychos always get off scott free? They commit years of child abuse, creating psychopaths that are unleashed onto society. Someone who guts someone with a beer bottle and drinks their blood is not just born, they are created.
- alappat1, on 06/13/2009, -3/+6*****...that's messed up! Thoughts go out to all the victim's families.
- CivicTV, on 08/14/2009, -0/+3Die in a fire.
- Eezyville, on 06/13/2009, -0/+3Thats not gonna help. What happens when the war spills over to normal people's lives like it usually does since it involves drugs.
- Rivetgeek, on 06/13/2009, -1/+4pics or it didnt happen
- santixx, on 06/13/2009, -4/+7"...Plata o ploma, as the Mexican saying goes: silver or lead..."
Bad (literal) translation, it would be "money or lead". - inactive, on 06/13/2009, -1/+3I don't how much harder we can try than 40 years and over $1 TRILLION dollars. Read those numbers again and realize this is the reality you live in.
- moonasha, on 06/13/2009, -1/+3^Learn to sarcasm, douchebag.
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