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- inactive, on 07/30/2008, -6/+74The guy was stupid, but let's face it - the real crime here is that he embarrassed the US bigwigs by showing how pathetic their security is. For that, they 'want to see him fry'.
Unfortunately, since the UK is pretty much just another US state, they're getting what they want. Which is to give him more jail time than a murderer or rapist would expect.
If we had any sense, we'd give the guy a job in the 'intelligence' services and tell the Americans to get stuffed. - inactive, on 07/30/2008, -3/+44The hell with locking him up. Put him on the payroll. Let him figure out how to secure all these secrets from getting hacked. Who knows better than him.
- frelk, on 07/30/2008, -10/+37Is anyone surprised that hacking into military systems equals jail time?
- iamcitiz3n, on 07/31/2008, -0/+25there wasn't THAT much "hacking" going on, after all the computers he got access to didn't even have passwords.
- suckonthat, on 07/30/2008, -4/+25he looks kind of like dahmer.
- contemplate, on 07/31/2008, -1/+20He ought to be getting a reward for finding the weaknesses in those 97+ systems. The us gov should hire him to fix all their leaky networks. Typical gov solution to everything, throw him in prison. What happened to all the people that were supposed to secure those systems? Embarrass the gov and they have to get their revenge, just like children.
- FairDinkumMate, on 07/31/2008, -0/+19Why is nobody addressing the real issue here?
Why is this guy being deported from Britain to the US? If a US citizen that had never set foot outside of Idaho 'hacked' a British military computer, would the US extradite him to Britain? What about China? Russia? Cuba?
There are obviously huge issues with where someone like this should be 'prosecuted', but I think it's pretty amazing that someone can be tried by the US for a crime HE committed in Britain(& yes HE was in Britain) and even more amazing that the British are allowing it. Mind you, Australia did the same thing not too long ago but that guy was a spam king so nobody cared! - inactive, on 07/30/2008, -0/+17I totally agree with you. I would also get him to work for us, instead of wasting his talent in a prison, where we end up paying for him anyway.
- MacBookForMe, on 07/30/2008, -4/+21Pentagon top brass deserves much higher sentences due to their own professional blunder!
p.s.
that poor guy could be financially rewarded for finding military loop holes... - inactive, on 07/30/2008, -3/+20when he gets out, he'll have lots of job offers like Mitnick.
- webresources, on 07/30/2008, -2/+1810 years. Wow, he is in trouble.
- inactive, on 07/30/2008, -2/+17Thats stupid(putting him in jail)...I mean its better to work for goverment, he can help them to stop hacking!
- inactive, on 07/31/2008, -2/+16***** Americans and their insane punishments. LEAVE GARY ALONE!
- hep2djive, on 07/30/2008, -0/+14We wusses out on him.
- inactive, on 07/30/2008, -2/+13can he at least get some tea and crumpets before the lock him up?
- chrisduser, on 07/31/2008, -3/+14Explain to me why he is being extradited when he never committed a crime on US Soil.
- inactive, on 07/30/2008, -17/+27Only ten years? He basically committed espionage seems kinda like a weak sentence.
- phpchris, on 07/31/2008, -0/+10Gary did an interview on a tv show here in the UK a while back saying what he did to gain access to these systems was basically use a program that could be downloaded online (of course he didn't say which). He also said the reason why it was so easy was because most of the systems were wide open with no security whatsoever.
He left messages on some of the systems he gained access to saying how weak (or nonexistent) their security was. - BeyondDGrave, on 07/31/2008, -0/+10say that after being in jail for ten years...
- inactive, on 07/30/2008, -0/+9Someone will hire him . . . probably the russian mafia!
- SSUK, on 07/31/2008, -2/+11Because Britain and America's 'special relationship' means Britain is the neglected wife. Britain will bend over backwards for America, hoping that they would one day do the same for us.
Fat ***** chance. - PeterBassett, on 07/31/2008, -0/+9The problem is, he'll be 10 years out of date by then...I don't envy him at all.
- inactive, on 07/31/2008, -0/+8so the MPAA and RIAA hire hackers.. can we extradite them too?
- AaronMan24, on 07/31/2008, -0/+8I agree totally. They are just locking him up to make an example of him.
- Frostek, on 07/31/2008, -0/+7He's from Ireland. But the UK does seem to be getting pushed around by the US more and more these days. I suppose that's what happens when you're in a "special relationship".
- IgWannA, on 07/31/2008, -0/+7from wikipedia - "He claims his motivation, drawn from a statement made before the Washington Press Club on May 9, 2001 by the "The Disclosure Project", was to find evidence of UFOs, antigravity technology, and the government suppression of "Free Energy", all of which he claims to have proven through his actions.[10]"
- mmzero, on 07/31/2008, -3/+10I smell swordfish 2!
...and predict its flop at the box office - TheMachine1, on 07/31/2008, -1/+8I thought I already heard this story in the last Die Hard movie?
- inactive, on 07/31/2008, -3/+9the guy knew he would be in a world of hurt if he got caught, you don't just hack into some country's military system and expect to get a slap on the hand.
- notalemming, on 07/31/2008, -5/+11Retarded fascist Americans.
- SSUK, on 07/31/2008, -2/+8I bet you he wouldn't get extradited. That's for sure.
- piddlespank, on 07/31/2008, -0/+6correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't he just using a perl script to try default login credentials?
- thunder7, on 07/31/2008, -0/+5As ' WhitefortWhitefort ' "Said: he embarrassed the US bigwigs by showing how pathetic their security."
And it looks like he got what he may have possibly been looking for!. Hire him to keep the real bad one's out!. - ObamaWins08, on 07/31/2008, -11/+16I have, like many of you, been in IT for several years. I just hate how every time someone hacks into something, there is this big "oh, he should be paid for revealing the flaws!" movement going on. From someone who has had his life directly affected by hackers, I say screw that. Sentence him to twenty years and knock off ten if he shows his processes. If not, kiss my but and make my license plates.
- Swampthing, on 07/31/2008, -3/+8At 42 years old, he should have been doing OTHER things in his bedroom...
- notalemming, on 07/31/2008, -1/+5The question is what's different between the modern UK governing and that of a US state. The Sterling? The leaders of Ireland and the UK have been sucking US dick since the 60s.
- clumsyjim, on 07/31/2008, -1/+5Absolutely spot on. There must be some big economic incentive for this 'special relationship'. As far as I can tell we do everything the American govt tells us to & in return get to ask poiltely if they'd mind possibly doing something for us every now & again (which of course is completely ignored).
- Frostek, on 07/31/2008, -2/+6Default Windows passwords and poorly administrated systems are the real problem here.
$900,000 damage? What a joke. Why weren't these systems protected to start with. Having passwords like adminstrator, password or blank fields is no security as far as I'm concerned. - IgWannA, on 07/31/2008, -0/+4minimum 10 years. the max is 60, which obviously the US will be hoping for.
if he pleaded guilty the first time round he would have got 2 years. - inactive, on 07/31/2008, -1/+5He broke some pretty major laws over International rule - and this doesn't serve to better the relations between the US and the UK.
I don't think sending him to the US is the proper course, though. If he'd committed the crime in America, then for sure, lock him up in the land of the free (insert sarcastic joke).
What makes me raise an eyebrow is that he did this from his BEDROOM. - daPhoenix, on 07/31/2008, -1/+5US MIlitary systems are under constant attack - the really important things you never find out about.
Of course it's easy to crucify the poor guy but he's not the one you should be concerned about, it's the ones they don't tell you about - or rather ones they don't even know about.. - annenk38, on 07/31/2008, -0/+3There have been other high-profile cases where the government looked the other way. It all depends on the hacker's country of origin. Extraditions are usually quietly dropped if they are likely to wreak political havoc.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/67268.stm - raid517, on 07/31/2008, -0/+3There is money involved. A huge part of the UK's trade comes from the US. We are in quite a unique position of having one foot firmly in Europe and one foot firmly in the US - at least in terms of trade. (Which gives a rather unfortunate image of the UK with it's legs wide apart).
It's not that simple either Britain still harps back to the old days of colonial power - and in the British point of view (at least in the government's mindset - although the majority of ordinary British people despise it), if you can't have power on your own, they you might as well have power via proxy.
It's sickening really. - 1337d00d, on 07/31/2008, -0/+3I'm seeing some Richard Ramirez the night stalker action.
- inactive, on 07/30/2008, -15/+18He know what he was doing is wrong. I hope they lock him at the full extend. This send a message out to all hacker and thief.
- inactive, on 07/31/2008, -0/+3No, but we all know that prosecuting someone is easier than securing your systems.
- FreelanceCynic, on 07/31/2008, -1/+4He was a fool. That's all he was, a stupid idiiot, apparently trying to find Evidence of UFO's. He should be giving some traning in rational thinking and enough time in jail to forget how to hack. But not extridation to the US. It's all a bit extreme.
- notalemming, on 07/31/2008, -0/+3yea in his bedroom, where else? I do most of my learning in my bedroom.
- inactive, on 07/31/2008, -2/+5thank god i dropped off early.
- boobsbr, on 07/31/2008, -2/+5STFU
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