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- Janinco, on 05/15/2009, -12/+131I am not an advocate for lawsuits, but this EMT should be sued by the victim's family and criminally prosecuted.
- WhiskeyWrites, on 05/15/2009, -3/+96I'm putting this guy in the same file as the Dominoes employees from a few weeks ago. Do these people really think that somehow no one is going to notice that they've put this stuff up somewhere?
- Landthatilove, on 05/15/2009, -7/+84Literally, what was he thinking?
- inactive, on 05/15/2009, -4/+67I'm glad they fired him. And I hope the family of the murder victim sues him, too.
- QiJiGuang, on 05/15/2009, -4/+65This is the most cold hearted sh*t I have seen so far today.
This clown not only needs to be sued, he needs to be barred from having ANY jobs in the medical field in the future. - sockpuppets, on 05/16/2009, -12/+62Of corpse he should be.
- Kraviwannabe, on 05/15/2009, -0/+48The guy violated about a gazillion HIPAA laws as well as being totally insensitive to the family. It's bad enough they have to be violated by the murderer. They should have to be victimized further by the people who are suppose to help?
- smindsrt, on 05/15/2009, -1/+48WOW... talk about a lack of judgment. I would be very upset if someone did this to a family member of mine.
- bicyclethief, on 05/16/2009, -5/+36You've been tagged!
- Lst01, on 05/16/2009, -0/+22No one is an advocate for lawsuits...until they advocate for lawsuits.
- hannahmar, on 06/11/2009, -1/+23Why the ***** did he upload it to facebook? What purpose does that serve?
Those poor parents :( - thoughtsonthis, on 05/16/2009, -1/+20When I think of all the times EMTs had to take my Mom to the hospital, I shudder. No hospital should have this kind of employee on their payroll. There should be some kind of check on people in the field.
- pookydirt, on 05/16/2009, -0/+18Some stories just make you so mad at the sheer stupidity, lack of decorum, and wholesale absence of respect for other people...
...and this is one of 'em. - Medic253, on 05/16/2009, -1/+18As a medic myself, all I can say is it people like this that give medics a bad name. I work damn hard. I try to think I am kind and care for every person that has the unfortunate luck to meet me professionally. I want to think my coworkers are the same way. This makes me sick to think that someone who is trained to treat and heal can be this unprofessional and heartless.
- Gondring, on 05/15/2009, -0/+16That would be great if he had to pay any damages himself, but it will go on Richmond University Medical Center's insurance, raising everyone's rates, and he'll barely get slapped. :-(
- charlie6969, on 05/16/2009, -0/+16You are in the majority. My neighbor(who was awesome even before this) was an EMT, off duty, and stopped to help someone that had a wreck. While he was helping her, he was hit by a car. Broke both legs, and a whole lot more. They weren't for sure that he would ever walk again. MONTHS later he is walking again and went on to finish his schooling. He is now a nurse. He had planned on nursing anyway, but his time as a patient just clinched it.
No worries; we know that most EMT's are the bomb! - rileyhallwood, on 05/16/2009, -5/+21pix or it obviously happened but i'm curious so pix.
- anonymousmedic, on 05/16/2009, -2/+17This idiot gives everyone who worked hard and spent sleepless weeks (not nights, but weeks) in medical textbooks, paramedic textbooks, and in external professional classes for countless hours of their life to become an EMS professional a bad name. These people perpetuate the stereotype of the ignorant ambulance driver to the public that they have come to expect due to the representation of the profession in the media since Emergency! went off the air. (Think how many times you saw them throw the patient in the back and both get in the front cab and drive off in TV and movies.) People like this asshat need to be weeded out and stripped of their licensure and ability to represent EMS as a whole. He'll probibly end up getting his license revoked, and paying AT LEAST 50 Grand to the Federal Government/CMS for this (The going rate for knowingly violating HIPPA).
Please don't take this asshat to represent the whole of EMS. Most Firefighters and Ambulance Workers, from the lowly first responder, to the most highly trained Critical Care/Wilderness Paramedic out there are driven by a desire to learn and serve competently. We train hard, and work thankless, often dirty and dangerous jobs, and it's not for the money, because we get paid on average a fourth of what an RN who trains for comparable time to a medic gets paid. (Medic and RN takes an average of two years in most states, And in most states, a Paramedic can do more with on-line medical control than an RN could ever hope for outside of being a Nurse practicioner.) 99% of all Paramedics and EMTs are competnant, highly trained individuals who care for our community with a passion. It's this stupid 1% that tends to represent us.
If you really want to see EMS represented well, go to our medical journals and sources:
http://www.ems.gov/
http://www.jems.com/
http://www.emsmagazine.com/
http://www.naemt.org/ - azureskies88, on 05/16/2009, -0/+13"If you wanted to be a doctor, maybe you should have buckled down a little more in high school."
-Gregory House to an EMT - purseonality, on 05/16/2009, -0/+12Actually, it IS against the law. Federal law. He was a medical professional, and he violated her medical privacy.
- thenemo1, on 05/16/2009, -0/+12Don't feel bad because most folks that are emt's are decent people this person is a pig and a screwball.
- robrohan, on 05/16/2009, -1/+11@sealbeater Patient confidentiality. There are lots of laws federal, state and local laws that every EMT or medical worker has to obey. (I used to be an EMT in a former life). He did indeed break... likely several laws.
- paloooz, on 05/16/2009, -0/+9Dugg for "posting it on an internet?"
- pkjay, on 05/16/2009, -1/+10After he uploaded it someone clicked the 'Like' button, and subsequently, the police found the murderer.
- TheFrod, on 05/16/2009, -0/+98-10 bucks is the starting rate for most EMTs all over the country, unless you work for a hospital as a gurney pusher or an EMT tech stocking shelves and doing CPR most fo your shift. also to reply to videodroner:
"I don't know about elsewhere, but where I live, the colleges here to become an EMT are a disgrace. They are the last resort for someone to get some sort of education in as quick as 3 months."
of course the class is short, most doctors dont learn 80% of their craft in school, same goes for nurses, PA, Rad Techs, and 100% of the people in direct patient care. the only difference is that most doctors nurses and everyone else gets to practice in a hospital. out in the field you wont see alot of new EMTs "practicing" CPR on someone, or dropping OPAs, or wrapping broken a broken pelvis. Most EMTs learn more in the 3 months in the field following the sometimes 2 week to 2 month programs that are offered elsewhere, then again most people who take an EMT course dont get into an ambulance because the pay is horrible your "customers" treat you like crap and everyone seems to have an issue with you.
what this person did is horrible, awful, etc etc etc but it happens all the time in EMS and in the hospital. also before anyone says anything my profile picture is me at work... during a training session. - cfuse, on 05/16/2009, -0/+8That's exactly the problem: they don't think. Posting on the internet is pandora's box - once it's out there it's never going away, and you're going to be judged on it until the end of time.
- legalizeitmon, on 05/16/2009, -2/+10What a disgrace to the profession. Totally unprofessional and unethical.
- sockpuppets, on 05/16/2009, -11/+18He poked her but she was unresponsive.
- xieodeluxed, on 05/16/2009, -0/+7To be honest, you guys would be surprised at how many retarded EMTs there are out there.. I mean, here in California the starting pay is anywhere between 8 and 10 bucks an hour. They'll honestly let any kind of ***** pass
- timrob, on 05/16/2009, -0/+7I think breach of confidentiality is more of a civil matter than a criminal one.
- adremali, on 05/16/2009, -3/+10so does anyone have the pic?
- oda1, on 05/16/2009, -1/+8what kind of society are we living in?
- videodroner, on 05/16/2009, -0/+7I don't know about elsewhere, but where I live, the colleges here to become an EMT are a disgrace. They are the last resort for someone to get some sort of education in as quick as 3 months.
- Medic253, on 05/16/2009, -0/+6Yeah. what that guy just said. I'm one of those sleep deprived Paramedics. So thank you for saying what I really wanted to say, your answer sounds better than mine.
- cdubd, on 05/16/2009, -2/+8I actually do believe it is illegal in this case, since it is involving a murder case.
- inactive, on 05/16/2009, -2/+80 is buried?
You must get catatonic at -2.
I'll help. - purseonality, on 05/16/2009, -1/+7So you've read the HIPAA statutes? I have. I had to implement them.
If he had not been an EMT, he would have had a constitutionally protected right to post whatever he wanted. But he was an EMT. You might want to do your reading. - smemily, on 05/16/2009, -0/+6Don't worry, we know the vast majority of EMS are hard-working honest people not ***** like this guy. It makes the news *because* it happens rarely, not frequently.
- somnus, on 05/16/2009, -0/+6What the hell? Just fire him. What monetary loss did they suffer from this? What would taking his money correct? Fire his ass.
- cornfeed, on 05/16/2009, -0/+6Sealbeater as an EMT myself, there is a breach of confidentiality here. All medical personal are required to operate under HIPPA. Doctors, nurses, EMTs, and even the janitors. And we even have to attend annual lectures on HIPPA.
Though taking the pictures in and of themselves wasn't technically wrong, (educational purposes and is often done), posting them on a blog was increadibly stupid and an opening to criminal and civil suit. - captspaulding, on 05/16/2009, -0/+5Is it just me, or has the news gotten even more ***** up than usual lately?
WTF. - dime5150, on 05/16/2009, -0/+5A murder scene is protected by the law. Obviously he was not authorized to be taking pictures. There are confidentiality laws just like anything else. Just like HIPPA laws. He obviously violated the policy(hence why the dumb ***** was fired) but there is a reason why the NYPD is taking it over and investigating. They wouldn't if it wasn't a criminal act.
- anonymousmedic, on 05/16/2009, -0/+5Actually, Ogrish used a lot of public domain footage from teaching institutes, forensic textbooks, criminology textbooks, the national archives, and pictures obtained from FOIRs from the government. In addition, a lot of the foreign photos were from private collections or from citizens.
- thoughtsonthis, on 05/16/2009, -0/+5My Mom had to be taken to the hospital many times by the EMTs because she had diabetes, which sometimes went out of control, and because she was confined to a wheelchair and tried to get in or out of it without help. Her falling was bad, because we could not help her and didn't know if she had broken anything. This happened about four times Luckily my sister had a contract with the company, so this helped with the cost. We always followed her to the hospital in our car, because we were not allowed in the truck. It was not an easy thing for her, because she was always embarrassed about it.
Thank you for asking. - yurimxpxman, on 05/16/2009, -3/+8Pics or it didn't happen.
- Networktwenty3, on 05/16/2009, -1/+6I guess I'm sick cuz im looking for the picture.
- geodescent, on 05/16/2009, -1/+6Just because it happens doesn't make it right.
- anonymousmedic, on 05/16/2009, -0/+4There are. State Board of EMS' are very brutal. They pull licenses on EMTs and Paramedics that would just result in a nurse or even MD getting a slap on the wrist for.
- charlie6969, on 05/16/2009, -0/+4I call *****!
Most see so much crap that it only makes them MORE empathetic, not less. - thecoolestguy, on 05/16/2009, -0/+4Why have you had to take your mom to the hospital so many times?
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