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- macmcraeart, on 03/12/2009, -7/+67I guess technically - since life originated in Africa - we all have African ancestry. (There those wacky Brits go again trying to one up the US.)
- HotSaucePanCake, on 03/13/2009, -2/+36Who cares
- inactive, on 03/13/2009, -9/+33Historical accuracy is important. Given that the Afrocentricists have had nothing but wild claims to their credit, I seriously doubt this claim, too. Why is it important? Let's look at the reason for existence of "Black studies" -- it exists as a feel-good prop to inner city youths, Marxist blacks, and other assorted fifth-columnists who need to nurse a hatred against a successful culture. They themselves are obsessed with race and feel bad because they do not see enough black faces in history. Somehow they manage to ignore he existence of many successful blacks both in the past and today; those examples are not enough, and so they try to "blackwash" history to feel like they belong; it is a futile, never-ending quest that results in tediously stupid theoretical literature that seeks to attribute the success of other cultures to a nonexistent "African" culture distinguished primarily by skin color. This not only threatens science, epistimeology and history, but it creates a clear and present danger -- to wit, America's black prison population has already been harvested by Islamic recruiters. The "DC Sniper" was a black Muslim.
- deadlikemesteve, on 03/12/2009, -2/+23Really interesting article, particularly about how painters at the time had a lot of influence over how their subjects would be remembered in what features they chose to keep and what features they chose to disregard. It makes you wonder what other secrets might be hidden.
- inactive, on 03/13/2009, -0/+18To put these silly "bloodlines" in the perspective they deserve...
Everyone has:
2 parents one generation ago
4 grandparents two generations ago
8 great grandparents three generations ago
16 great great grandparents four generations ago...
Continue the pattern to 10 generations, and we're talking over one THOUSAND ancestors.Go back 20 generations from you, and you have over 1 MILLION ancestors.
So... who really gives a rat's ass who's in who's family tree centuries ago? Go back that far and pretty much everyone's your daddy. - tzvika613, on 03/13/2009, -5/+22And if this was true - what difference would it make to the average Briton or to members of the royal families ? Nothing would change ? Who cares ?
- Rogor, on 03/12/2009, -4/+20A simple DNA test would prove this conclusively. I suspect BS though.
- inactive, on 03/12/2009, -11/+27This article suggests that most of the royal families of Europe are black, all because Alfonso III may have had a Moor lover over 750 years ago [which most modern historians deny]. The whole thing is preposterous. It's another Afrocentric myth. Prince Harry is not African. Neither was Plato, Beethoven, Cleopatra, etc.
- r0g3r, on 03/13/2009, -2/+17Cleopatra was greek, descended from the Ptolemies, who Alexander left in Egypt when he conquered it. She was born in Egypt, but not truly Egyptian.
- ChelseaBlacker, on 03/12/2009, -3/+18Oof, not exactly a looker was she? Too bad the interesting part of this article is about 1/2 down the page. I never knew there was a "black branch of the Portuguese royal family."
- elfprince13, on 03/13/2009, -5/+19Actually Cleopatra was. She was Egyptian, which by definition makes her of African descent.
- youannoyme, on 03/13/2009, -1/+14Elf, So if I move to Africa, then by that logic any children I have (assuming by another anglo-saxon woman) are of African descent too... She may have been born and raised in Egypt, and a few generations before her, but she is of Greek descent...
- waydee, on 03/13/2009, -4/+17No, not at all. After all, that's their official stance these days isn't it?
Shame every single BNP ***** I've ever had the misfortune to encounter has been a racist, fascist, ignorant piece of *****. Shame their leader is a hatemongering, slimy piece of ***** with a long history of being a Grade A *****.
There is no place for the far right in the U.K. or Europe. A lot of people had to die in learning that lesson. - Truth3, on 03/13/2009, -1/+13You have to have black skin to be black. Ancestry doesn't count. Try going up to a black guy in the hood while saying, "What's up my n%gga?" and try to explain to him that your ancestry is African, so that makes you black. lol.
- COINTELPROAgent, on 03/13/2009, -3/+14Not like the BNP would suddenly add black Portuguese people to their list of acceptable races...
- kahn2001, on 03/13/2009, -1/+12moor does not = black, nor does African automatically mean black
- rolf, on 03/13/2009, -0/+11It is BS. This is her:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlotte_of_Mecklenb ...
The whole theory predicates on one ancestor 9 generations before her and some speculation. It's all a highly ridiculous "one drop" theory. Geesh, do the math (1/2)^9 = 0.001953125 or about 2/10 of 1%. Ridiculous to call her black even if true. It really just reflects society's biases. Either that, or it's perpetuated by those that want to establish Cleopatra as a black queen as well. - Jascol, on 03/13/2009, -2/+12If they're (BNP) not racist then why does every single story on their website blame blacks/jews/muslims/gays... ***** it anyone who isn't white British and straight (don't worry they haven't forgotten about Eastern Europe) on every single problem in the UK?
Plus the fact that Nick Griffin (BNP fuhrer) is an avowed anti-semitic, although Muslim hating seems to be the order of the day at the moment.
The BNP, National Front and any other neo-nazi fascist so called "political party" can ***** off - Electric_Sheep, on 03/13/2009, -0/+10The British stopped slavery before the Americans did..
- username7410, on 03/13/2009, -0/+10She descended from the Moops?
- kcp12304, on 03/13/2009, -1/+11http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSL188558 ...
- username7410, on 03/13/2009, -1/+10"Queen Victoria's descendants are spread across most of the royal families of Europe and beyond. If we class Charlotte as black, then ergo Queen Victoria and our entire royal family, [down] to Prince Harry, are also black"
Are we still using the the one drop rule? The current members are so removed from Queen Charlotte it's ridiculous to call any of them "black" ...we're all black, we all cam out of Africa. It's somewhat disturbing that something like this matters. - marklestrange, on 03/13/2009, -1/+10So if somebody has 1/16 of their racial make-up from a black person then we call them 'Black'.
How about if a black person has has 1/16 of their heritage as white ... shouldn't we then call them white.
The level of implied (overlooked?) racism in most of the posts as well as the article is mind-bending folks. - inactive, on 03/12/2009, -2/+11There are white moors. Just google the term 'white moors' and you'll see.
- r0g3r, on 03/13/2009, -0/+9FTA: " He claims that the queen, though German, was directly descended from a black branch of the Portuguese royal family, related to Margarita de Castro e Souza, a 15th-century Portuguese noblewoman nine generations removed, whose ancestry she traces from the 13th-century ruler Alfonso III and his lover Madragana, whom Valdes takes to have been a Moor and thus a black African."
...But the Moors weren't black.
- waspbr, on 03/13/2009, -1/+9First human beings may have originated from Africa, but not life. Most likely life originated in the oceans
- inactive, on 03/13/2009, -0/+8Well *****, as long as we're going by the one drop rule, I'm black, too. Great grandmother was a quarter black, but I seriously doubt anyone would be so quick to label me, what with my blond hair and blue eyes and pale skin and all, as black.
- mashedup, on 03/13/2009, -1/+8us:
1. the objective case of we, used as a direct or indirect object: They took 'us' to the circus. She asked 'us' the way.
I'm suprised you haven't come across it before? - waydee, on 03/13/2009, -2/+7Having "African ancestry" doesn't make someone black, by a liberal enough definition we're all black if that were true.
- LeviTheSmith, on 03/13/2009, -0/+5So we're related
- emix, on 03/13/2009, -0/+5one-drop rule is alive and well
- cyberthief, on 03/13/2009, -1/+6If we class Charlotte as black, then ergo Queen Victoria and our entire royal family, [down] to Prince Harry, are also black ... a very interesting concept." thats kinda stretching it.
they may have a drop of black ancestry.. but that does not make them black. - MelissaOfTroy, on 03/13/2009, -1/+6Cleopatra was macedonian greek, and going back some 300 years to the first Ptolemy, most of her ancestors were brother-sister marriages, meaning Cleopatra was very inbred and not too many nonPtolemy genes were introduced. at least two non-macedonian women married into the line, though (and by this article's definition having a single black ancestor 700 years back makes you black) and no one knows for sure who Cleopatra's mother was. There is some evidence that she was not a Ptolemy, so she could have been Greek, Egyptian, Nubian, Lybian, anything.
- ganymede2010, on 03/13/2009, -0/+5The one drop rule is only prevalent in America. In Africa, allot of the Blacks claim to be Arabs and not Black Africans, because their great great Grandfather was an Arab trader. Race for the most part is a social construct. That's why it's viewed differently in foreign cultures.
- Grazzit, on 03/13/2009, -0/+4I've driven all over Charlotte and never seen these statues!
- inactive, on 03/13/2009, -0/+4She looks about as black as Barack Obama.
- Truth3, on 03/13/2009, -0/+4After tanning in the sun with oil for about two hours you could do it. But you have to tan both sides of your body (4 hrs total for noobs). You also have to work on your "black slang" it doesn't come natural, you won't be able to do it because you are most likely a Star Trek super nerd. Leave it to the professionals to do this. You will most likely end up saying, "What's up my n%gga?" like Jim Rome. Ya, that WHITE, like so white that even white guys say, "Dayum, that dude is white!".
- Yambag, on 03/13/2009, -0/+4OMG I'm 1/10,000,000,000 amoeba!!
- oldhick, on 03/13/2009, -0/+4That's meuse for you... Nothing is racist to meuse... Of course the BNP is a racist party. They're members openly admit it. Only a fool would deny such.
- Vishalrix, on 03/13/2009, -0/+4Its Moors you idiot! Or was it the other way round?
- TomGfromCanada, on 03/13/2009, -2/+6ya, queen latifah
- Va1kyrie, on 03/15/2009, -0/+4Whites (primarily those with blue eyes and fair hair) will soon be written out of history and all depictions of such dismissed as being some kind of fashion or idealisation.
- praisethelard, on 03/13/2009, -1/+5At what level of browness do I get to say "What's up my n%gga?"
- sonycam, on 03/13/2009, -1/+5"The suggestion that Queen Charlotte was black implies that her granddaughter (Queen Victoria) and her great-great-great-great-granddaughter (Queen Elizabeth II) had African forebears. Perhaps, instead of just being a boring bunch of semi-inbred white stiffs, our royal family becomes much more interesting."
Sounds kind of racist to me. So if you're black now, suddenly you're interesting? - inactive, on 03/13/2009, -1/+5Greetings my brothers from other mothers
- mashedup, on 03/13/2009, -5/+9'one up the US'
- It wouldn't be the first time us Brits have done that to our American cousins. - ZincSaucier, on 03/13/2009, -0/+3haha.. they also started first
- ganymede2010, on 03/13/2009, -0/+3A 2006 Mitochondrial DNA study of 12th-13th century Islamic remains from Priego de Cordoba, Spain, indicate a higher proportion of sub-Saharan African lineages attributed at least partially to Moorish occupation, in addition to more ancient migrations to Europe.
- matt2m, on 03/13/2009, -0/+3The one drop rule idk how I feel about it. My mother is at least 1/3 white but she says she is black but she has white,back, and Indian in her. My great grandmother is pure white, and my grandmother is 100% Indian the slave trade brought her grandparents into Jamaica, my grandfather is half and half. My father is Indian and black and I have traced at least 3 generations on both sides of my family born in Jamaica. My outward appearance is Indian hair and facial features and my body is one of a black man, with the exception of my feet are Indian I have what Jamaicans call yam foot, (a decent size gap between the big toe and the rest of your toes) my voice is well white I left Jamaica at a young age I am a mutt. I don't care if you call me black or Indian all I know is that I am Jamaican. Now according to the one drop rule my children would be white but it would be a small percentage unless its with a white women which would be likely since that is all i have ever been with. But all of this gets pointless after a while you are what you are, would I be treated or feel any differently if I found out tomorrow that I had Chinese in me 10 generations back?
- UNDERSTAR, on 03/13/2009, -0/+3^^^Well played
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