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- puto, on 12/24/2007, -2/+14That is the most self-centered ***** thing I have ever read.
- ManyAsOne, on 12/23/2007, -1/+5Personally, though, while I can see where they're coming from, I'm against pre-implantation genetic screening in either direction. I've already seen evidence that the 'slippery slope' isn't just a hysterical fantasy. Some things really ought to just be left up to chance and/or the will of the divine.
- scooterbaga, on 12/26/2007, -0/+3oh... well how 'bout Stephen Hawking? Now that you mention it, I remember hearing about her dreaming about trees or some *****...
- Lane, on 12/24/2007, -2/+5This sounds like another episode of the twilight zone...
- inactive, on 12/23/2007, -1/+4why would they give their kids a disablity?
- scooterbaga, on 12/24/2007, -1/+2This is why PC is getting so ridiculously out of hand.. We've convinced so many that a disability means there's 'nothing wrong' with them... they actually believe it.
How can you argue that it's wrong when it's 'okay' to be disabled?
Let's be honest, it sucks to be crippled in any way. And it's fantastic that we live in a society that people with disabilities can thrive and contribute amazing things to all of us. But it's despicable to think that it's okay to essentially force a being into existence that's purposely lesser. For all the same reasons it's wrong to choose one that's better than normal.
The furthest this genetic pick and choose should go is to ensure the child will make it to it's own birth and that the mother will be okay. Wake up! Mistakes and hard lives are supposed to happen. Stop meddling, and let existence happen.
We're headed full steam for the next Helen Keller simply being fancied out of existence for no good reason other than our own foolish/selfish vanity. - fgaughan, on 01/14/2008, -0/+1 The Sunday Times has totally misrepresented issue.
This is NOT about genetic manipulation. The embryo is ALREADY deaf. Parliament is just making a statement that embryo is not allowed to live.
Deaf = no right to life.
Reminds you of what happened in Nazi Germany?
Deaf people being forced to respond to measures were a government is making a statement that certain classes of embryo don’t have a right to survive.
We are just responding to deaf embryos should not be destroyed on the basis they are deaf. End of. If you think that deaf embryos should be killed off on the basis they are ALREADY deaf, then why not say lets kill an embryo because it needs to wear glasses.
For the record, those with refractive errors aren’t allowed to become egg or sperm donors. If you wear glasses you have an abnormality. Do you agree with that or not?
People need to wake up to the extent of this clause instead of using it as an excuse to have a go at what they THINK deaf people stand for.
P.S. The Sunday Times got it completely wrong, just an excuse to exercise out their media misconceptions again, which gets into disability hate crime (a criminal offence)
take a look at this link on how the times get it all wrong
http://stopeugenics.org/2007/12/22/not-quite-with- ...
also Jackie Ballard chief executive of RNID is hearing and not one deaf person work for the RNID and they think they know whats best for us. - dcwaterboy, on 12/26/2007, -0/+1FYI, Hellen Keller was born with sight and hearing. She lost these two senses as the result of a childhood disease.
- Spectre74, on 12/29/2007, -0/+1How would an abortionist or a supporter of abortion feel about this topic? Do they agree with this?
- Plasmatica, on 12/24/2007, -3/+3***** retards. I would like to kick these bastards in the balls and ovaries as hard as I can.
- ManyAsOne, on 12/23/2007, -3/+1According to the article, Britain is trying to pass laws to make it illegal for parents using prenatal genetic testing for any reason to choose to carry a disabled fetus to term if there's a non-disabled alternative. I can imagine that for a lot of people, legislating what kind of person should or should not be born like that is far too close to opening the doors to the eugenics movement all over again.
Secondly, many disabled people, particularly among the deaf, don't view the physical aspects of their disability as inherently negative, so much as something that's negative in this society as it is right now. Not being able to hear isn't a disadvantage in communities made for and inhabited by deaf people. The existence of these Deaf communities and of Deaf culture is another reason why some parents may want a deaf kid- it's natural for parents to want to raise a child in their culture, and a hearing child in a community of deaf people is going to be a bit of an oddity, and even may be occasionally at a disadvantage.


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