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- samard2002, on 09/30/2009, -10/+158He's here to "enforce the laws put in place by the citizenry of California and the city and county of San Francisco" -- which sounds like a great speech, but it isn't until the moment the punk calls him a dick that he decides that the enforcement is necessary. It hard to interpret his actions as anything other than "I can't arrest you for calling me a dick, but I can arrest you for this."
It's particularly disgusting that he gleefully informs the kid that the state is going to seize and hold his property for a period longer than his arrest.
But the bottom line is, everyone in this video is a jackass. The skater wants to act like a badass, now he gets to go to jail like one. Johnny Law wants to puff out his chest and show his power, so he tosses a kid in jail. Everybody's playing their role.
I'm just glad a couple of jackasses ruined each other's day instead of ruining mine. - gwtgator, on 09/30/2009, -0/+91it's illegal to skateboard in san francisco?
- anonymousmedic, on 09/30/2009, -46/+113What a dumbass. You don't resist arrest, internet tough men. IF you decide to be a dumbass and do so, don't smart the ***** off to the cop either.
It's not his fault you're being an ass. - ProjectGSX, on 09/30/2009, -8/+58If he had actually resisted arrest, you would have a point.
- lespaulplayer08, on 09/30/2009, -3/+49it's illegal to skateboard in san fransisco? that's ***** stupid...
- cbabraham, on 09/30/2009, -14/+56The cop asked the kid what was wrong, he said he was pissed off. He asked why he was pissed off, he said because you're a dick.
The cop arrested the kid for answering his questions honestly? If he didn't want answers why did he ask? - Nathrat, on 09/30/2009, -4/+41I was fine for the most part with everything except the arm breaking statement. Cops think they can do and say whatever they want nowadays. We need a police force to monitor the police force.
- richIsBored, on 09/30/2009, -28/+62Unfortunately so long as it's illegal to skateboard, those kids are "real criminals". Take it up with your legislature.
- Gatchaman, on 09/30/2009, -2/+35Memo to self..."keep mouth shut to avoid arrest"
- Sfweb, on 09/30/2009, -4/+34They don't have a magic ball, however the police force can allocate their time according to the seriousness of a crime. Technically jaywalking is illegal, but everybody does it and I don't think any of us would be too pleased if a cop threatened to break our arms for jaywalking. Granted rules are rules no matter how serious, I just don't think this was enforcing the rules, I think this was an ego thing from the police.
- Rain12913, on 09/30/2009, -14/+44As of right now, I've watched the video up to the 1 minute mark and paused it there. This is what I've seen so far:
Clearly not in a good mood as a punk kid who has just been stopped by the cops, the kid is on the ground looking upset but not bothering anyone. Noticing this, the officer asks "Anyone have any Exedrin? Your boy has a headache", clearly mocking him and trying to get a rise out of him. In response, the kid calls the officer an inappropriate name ("***** dick") which seems to be just what the cop was hoping to get him to say.
As soon as the kid says this, the cop rushes over and places him under arrest. If the officer had been lenient with him up until that point and had then decided (after being called a dick) to arrest him for a crime that had indeed committed, then there is no problem here. However, in doing so, he clearly uses unnecessary physical force. This kid has not resisted one bit up until the one minute mark, and yet the cop is manhandling him. Instead of simply placing him under arrest like normal by asking him to stand up and put his hands behind his back, it's quite clear that the cop is getting out some aggression on the kid. This is the problem.
I honestly don't give a ***** what happens after the 1 minute mark. I’m sure the kid starts to resist arrest and do more stupid *****, which doesn't surprise me because he seems like a punk kid. However, in that first 60 seconds I saw an officer of the law bully a kid and take out his anger on him physically, and that shouldn't be happening. I’m all for officers’ right to use force when necessary, but using it against someone who’s called them a name is not an appropriate usage of the power they have. - JohnBantam, on 09/30/2009, -10/+39Clearly this cop was made fun of as a kid.
- doctechnical, on 09/30/2009, -15/+41Bad interpretation. The kid was breaking the law by skateboarding. The cop was going to let him off with a warning when Einstein decided to run his mouth. So the kid's idiocy won him a first-class upgrade from Admonishment to Night in Jail and Date with the Judge.
The kid was an idiot who didn't know when to keep his filthy pie-hole shut. - Hetman, on 09/30/2009, -1/+19Every generation since the 50s have been claiming that the next generation is a bunch of young punks.
- badwithcomputer, on 09/30/2009, -2/+18it's illegal to skateboard pretty much everywhere that isn't your private property/a designated skate park. it's not just san francisco, it's all over america.
- lukas88, on 09/30/2009, -7/+22The cop asked him what was wrong, he should be able to cope with the response.
I'm not usually one to jump on the anti-police bandwagon, but this officer is clearly a dick, just like the kid said. - V1ruk, on 09/30/2009, -4/+19I skateboard, and completely agree.
Cops are usually nice to you, if you're nice to them, they deal with dicks everyday.
The kid should have shut the ***** up, granted we don't know what happened before this video that would prompt the kid to call the cop a dick.
But the cop sums up a pig headed ***** perfectly, "I'll snap your arm like a twig." completely uncalled for.
Then kicking the kid?
Sure skateboarders can be a problem, but they're a relatively small problem compared to Cops who treat all people like criminals, and aren't there so much to protect and serve, but to extort and intimidate. - AndrewJC, on 09/30/2009, -4/+18So, naturally, the cop should do it for him. That's amazing logic.
- inactive, on 09/30/2009, -0/+14No skateboarding anywhere, seriously? I haven't really ridden a bike or skateboard in years but that is lame.
- enantiodromia, on 09/30/2009, -2/+16you seem as naive as the kid in the video.
- PBRbeer, on 09/30/2009, -2/+16Unfortunately it can't be effectively taken up with legislature because the law is already in place, it's nearly impossible to have laws redacted from books, it requires millions of dollars in man hours and lobbying and public campaigning...
What the skateboarders are doing is commonly referred to in the legal world as 'Civil Disobedience' when a major portion of society deems a law unjust, they simply choose to ignore it.... - edebolt, on 09/30/2009, -3/+16giving skaters everywhere a bad name. why are you poisioning the world against my sport. pussy. Do you think Tony Hawk would have pulled that *****?
- Awwzm, on 09/30/2009, -7/+19Everyone's an ***** in this video. The kid. The cop. The loud mouth bystanders.
- Drahkir, on 09/30/2009, -2/+13Yes! We need an office specifically designed to deal with the internal affairs of that agency! An Internal Affairs Office, if you will.
- holychicken, on 09/30/2009, -4/+15I disagree.
It went from, "I CAN arrest you, but I am going to let you off the hook" to "okay, you are going to be a dick with me even though I was letting you off the hook, so I am no longer doing so."
I didn't see a kick, I saw a claim of doing so. And big f-ing deal, he aggressively told the kid he would break his arm.
Believe me, I have had run in with the cops and I don't trust them for a second, but I saw nothing wrong with the cops actions in this video (again, if the video did catch him kicking the kid, I missed it). - sneaker98, on 09/30/2009, -2/+11I agree with doctechnical. Sure, the cop acted like a dick, but that was in response to the skateboarder opening his big mouth. Whoops! Probably shouldn't do that, because now you went from a warning to jail-time.
Was it worth it, kid? I'd guess not.
As for the cops alleged "kick", sounds like the kid wouldn't get in the damn car. He's allowed to use necessary force to ensure compliance, and I doubt it was anything to get riled up over. - Nathrat, on 09/30/2009, -2/+11yeah, cause clearly that's working so well.
- sentinel106, on 09/30/2009, -0/+8agreed, the alleged "kick" conveniently wasn't caught on camera
- holychicken, on 09/30/2009, -9/+17Believe me, I hate the ***** cops. I have been harassed by the cops on a number of occasions when they had no reason to.
That being said, I fully support what the cop did here. It didn't seem to me that he was trying to provoke the kid. He asks if the kid has a headache, the kid says no, he asks what's wrong, the kids says he's pissed, he asks why, and the kid says it is because he is being a "***** dick."
I don't know what happens after that, but someone claims he "kicked" the kid, which is conveniently not on the tape.
Honestly, I see a bunch of people harassing a police officer and the police officer responding by no longer ignoring the law and being lenient. - johnnyfoto11, on 09/30/2009, -6/+14I think the real problem here is this ...
If he broke the law, arrest him. Don't use the verbal abuse as the trigger. That's the biggest problem with law enforcement. Too much judgement is placed on the shoulders of the cop and they get to use whatever ***** / bias / racial / etc. reason to actually enforce the law. Either arrest everyone for breaking the law, or it shouldn't be a law. - ryancawdor, on 09/30/2009, -3/+11Actions have consequences. The world is divided into two distinct camps that either understand that or don't. Fair, not fair, justified, not justified...whatever.
It all comes down to if you're smart enough to understand that when you do something there will be consequences. - Trent0090, on 09/30/2009, -0/+8Well you can tell a cop to ***** off. Hell you can tell any government official to ***** off and it's fine. http://is.gd/3Pn1I
- ProjectGSX, on 09/30/2009, -3/+10Only problem with your example is: you arent going to jail.
Douchebag. - rogXue, on 09/30/2009, -5/+12true the cop was a jerk. The kid was knowingly breaking the law and instead of getting a slap on the wrist he talked back. That is the first thing you don't do. Every idiot with a camera thinks they are in the right nowadays and they are not. Just because you have a camera doesn't mean you aren't going to get your ass handed to you in a court. You simply say your yes sirs and you move on, most cops are decent if you give then a little respect.
- ProjectGSX, on 09/30/2009, -2/+9You have the right to remain silent. Do so, IMO.
- enantiodromia, on 09/30/2009, -2/+9to be fair, when tony hawk was that kid's age, the cops were all in black and white, and ran around in silent movies, chasing Italians and Irish.
- V1ruk, on 09/30/2009, -1/+8Ya basically right now, the cops police themselves, if you have a complaint against a cop, it goes to a cop, that's smooth.
A police force that could only arrest the police is really a great idea.
No power to hassle the citizenry, but power to hassle those hassling the citizenry. - HeyyyJoe, on 09/30/2009, -0/+7Your comment sums it up perfectly!
- upick, on 09/30/2009, -36/+42What's the problem with that? At least he's doing his job, sooner or later that kids going to break his arm anyways
- steviesteveo, on 09/30/2009, -1/+7Enforcing the law = Good
Threatening to break someone's arm = Bad
I think the ideal police officer enforces the law without the threatening to break someone's arm for giving him cheek. - An800lbGorilla, on 10/01/2009, -0/+6Owning skateboards is not illegal. Skating on public property is. It's the same thing with speeding. If you own your own racetrack, on private property, you can drive 200 mph if you'd like. you just aren't allowed to do it on the public roads.
- crimson117, on 09/30/2009, -1/+7Cops think they can do whatever they want as long as in their opinion you are "resisting arrest".
That's also what they always yell as they taser you: "Stop resisting, stop resisting!" like some sick electrical engineering joke.
They've learned from rodney king that they can't just beat the hell out of you for no reason, they have to first declare that you are resisting.
In this case the kid had an attitude but clearly did not physically resist one bit (not to mention the cop was twice his size, so resistance was futile).
The cop never said "put your hands behind your back" or anything, he just grabbed the kid (who was sitting down at the time), and twisted his arm around (the arm doesn't bend that way - so yes, I suppose the kids tendons/bones were resisting the officer's attempt to twist them). - ptoma2000, on 09/30/2009, -0/+6The kid is better off learning the lesson now rather than when he's an adult.
- zzt711, on 09/30/2009, -3/+9I gotta say, typically I'm aghast at what many of these cop videos show, but the kid decided to be a punk and asked for it. The cop told them to stop (he could have already cited them, they were also pulling down a fence) and disperse, one decided to be a punk, what do you expect. In my personal experience, most SF cops are cool and only "puff out their chest" if you do something blatant.
- hikaruzero, on 09/30/2009, -11/+17Yeah what the hell? The kid didn't do anything at all to resist arrest. He affirmatively answered all of the cop's questions, AND took the cop's excedrin ***** without missing a beat. That cop was baiting the poor kid by saying ***** like "why, are you ashamed of yourself?"
The kid may have been an ass, but the cop was straight-up harrassing him. I'd have been pissed off too. - palehorse864, on 09/30/2009, -0/+5Unicycles are far more damaging to people's property. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jkh3cbPQB-4 - enantiodromia, on 09/30/2009, -5/+10and the moment you become a business owner in the area and you have a dozen kids grinding off your building and keeping customers away, i bet suddenly you would consider them "real" criminals.
- Paulorific, on 09/30/2009, -5/+10I hate cops just as much as the next guy but he really didn't do anything wrong...He tried to sound tough by saying he'd break the guy arm, but that's it. It wasn't a real threat, and the skater was being an idiot.
- AngelBunny, on 09/30/2009, -1/+6no it is not illegal in SF except in business areas where the sidewalk is basically treated like private property:
a) Prohibits skateboarding on any city street at any time, on any sidewalk in any business district at any time, and on any non-business district sidewalk commencing 30 minutes after sunset and ending 30 minutes before sunrise (Traffic Code, Section 100)
The officer was completely wrong. -
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