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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -10/+128That is how to protest!
- dagonweb, on 10/12/2007, -22/+139Yes, and it will happen M O R E.
As society becomes more repressive, as politicians more detached, as big business becomes more strangehold exploitative more people will do this. And if you think an armored bulldozer is effective just wait a decade untill people with rogue nanofactories, biochemistry labs, high energy physics, lasers, artificial intelligence come around.
There is a huge market for vengeance. Loads of people are simmering with frustration, resentment, despair, humiliation. You don't need to go far abroad to find loads of suicide terrorists. And worse, I don't blame all of them for their ideas. If driven hard enough, i'd do this. - verifex, on 10/12/2007, -4/+85Here is WHY this guy did this: http://forums.facepunchstudios.com/showthread.php?t=143648
I would be angry too, but come on, there has to be some other way then go A-Team crazy on the whole town. - Bhima, on 10/12/2007, -2/+53I've read about this a while back.
Once you find out the background it seems like the town had it coming. - ArcticCelt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+50Seams to me that corupted city officials where screwing him very hard. I never approve violence but this case could be an exception.
"...52 year old welder Marvin Heemeyer lived in Grunbee Colorado fixing vehicle mufflers. His small repair shop was located near a concrete factory called Mountain Park. To Marvin and his neigbors' horrors, the owners of Mountain Park decided to expand the factory, forcing the people living near-by to sell their land to Mountain Park.
Sooner or later the factory's neigbhors gave up, except for Marvin. Having tried every way possible, the owners of the factory failed to acquire his land. However all the surrounding land was now owned by the factory, which resulted in Marvin's shop getting cut off from the rest of the world...."
"...He had purchased the bulldozer to construct an alternate route to his muffler shop. This was because the concrete plant blocked the original road to his shop. However, city officials refused to grant him permission.
Other factors were also hindering his business.
The concrete plant often left large quantities of dust on Marvin's property, and cut him off from the city sewer line. When Heemeyer requested to extend a sewer line across eight feet of the plant's property, he was denied. Not being connected to the city sewer line resulted in a $2500 fine that Marvin had to pay.
As a last measure, Marvin petitioned the city with his neighbors and friends, but to no avail
Faced with the failure of his business in spite of his efforts, Heemeyer was forced to sell the property. He was given six months to leave, and it was during this time that he constructed the Killdozer...."
Sources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Heemeyer
http://forums.facepunchstudios.com/showthread.php?t=143648 - AlmostEvil, on 10/12/2007, -1/+38Fascinating and so very sad.
- aaarrrgh, on 10/12/2007, -6/+40Truly an american legend!
- cerisaac, on 10/12/2007, -1/+34"He was a fine lad", - said the people that were close to Marvin. "They shouldn't have made him angry". "If he was your friend, he was your best friend. And if he was your enemy, well he was your worst and most dangerous enemy." - said Marvins friends.
- H3BR3W, on 10/12/2007, -2/+35YouTube showed it all for me.
- hygraed, on 10/12/2007, -3/+35Now you know what would have REALLY packed a punch?
If he had gotten hold of one of these:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bagger_288 - rewritable, on 10/12/2007, -3/+32I wish he were still alive, he would make a great president after I bonded him out of prison with my bulldozer.
- umdigger, on 10/12/2007, -9/+37Hey at least he did kill himself. That saves the tax payers ~20k a year. Thanks dude.
- ArcticCelt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+28Ho and also this had a litle more context to the story:
"...Marvin was described as an obedient, honest, and loving man. However, prior to his rampage, his family life was also falling apart: his father had just died, and he was forced to auction his house. When about to get married, Heemeyer found out that his girlfriend had cheated on him.
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The rampage
On June 4, 2004, he drove his Killdozer through the wall of his former business, and tore down the concrete plant that had destroyed it. He then proceeded to destroy many other buildings, including City Hall.
Some witnesses say Heemeyer made calculated movements with the bulldozer to avoid injuring anyone...."
(From Wikipedia)
Plus the aftermath show what king of son of a bitches rule that town.
"...Rather than using the occasion to consider or address the underlying issues of the act, the date of his death has become a "everyone be glad he's gone" celebration , with the town holding ice cream socials and "old fashioned baseball games"..."
Poor guy RIP. - concreteclam, on 10/12/2007, -0/+28ase111:
Quoted from the forum post article: "Despite the great damage to property (13 buildings were destroyed, most requiring hundreds of thousands of dollars to be replaced), no one besides Heemeyer was injured; observers noted that Heemeyer appeared to go out of his way to avoid injury to bystanders." - RichPowers, on 10/12/2007, -2/+29Ya, I swear I've seen the A-Team make an armored tank out of a bulldozer at least 3 times - assault rifles and all.
- ase111, on 10/12/2007, -5/+31Sniping is hard outside of video games. Let's not promote murder here.
He took action, we should give him credit for that. He also build a kick ass tank out of a bulldozer fitting for the A-Team. Let's credit that too. But it was an act of violence, remember that. But yes, I'd be pretty peeved too if I were in his position.
I wonder, would there have been a way to take effective action as effective as this but not hurt anyone? - waldo21, on 10/12/2007, -1/+27Part of the problem this guy was facing is what some call the 4th branch of government. Un-elected public administrators are given the authority to implement rules using their own personal or departmental judgment. Furthermore, these administrators cannot be sued for actions taking during the “planning” process. So basically you are at their mercy, and since they aren’t elected, they can’t be voted out. These professional level administrators can easily cater to the whims of powerful people or interest groups. They develop levels of rules and regulations to hide behind and to increase their self-importance. The other problem is that responsibility becomes diffused. The administrators say that they are just “following the rules” (the ones they created by the way), the legislators say they are not responsible because they just make the laws and are not responsible for how they are implemented. Of course there are laws to protect the citizenry such as public notice, public hearings etc. But too often administrators just engage in “proceduralism” and say, “well we followed procedure, so we followed the law”. A lot of public meetings just take place so administrators can say they let the public provide input, when in reality the public input has no affect on the final outcome.
- my 2 cents. - n3tfury, on 10/12/2007, -6/+32AMERICA, ***** YEAH!
- LordSkywalker, on 10/12/2007, -11/+37That was crazy, but I do really wish there were more vigilante acts by people. You know, real-world anti-heroes who take justice and punishment into their own hands.
- ParadoxControl, on 10/12/2007, -1/+26This might actualy be cooler then the tank rampage. If the guy with the tank figured out how to fire the thing, THEN it would have been cooler.
- latency, on 10/12/2007, -1/+26go back to playing counterstrike.
- jefbob, on 10/12/2007, -0/+23"I wonder, would there have been a way to take effective action as effective as this but not hurt anyone?"
From the article verifex linked to, it says that he was the only one injured in the whole adventure, and that was because he shot himself once the tank died. - brettotte1, on 10/12/2007, -2/+25that guy was in my relative's town. the city gave the concrete plant a permit by his paint shop i believe which ended up getting dust everywhere & ruining his biz. he holed up for days in the shop building this thing
they called us while it was going on to tell us to turn on TV's and watch the mayhem from choppers - dose, on 10/12/2007, -1/+24Wow so the concrete plant cuts him off from the sewer line, he asks the city to extend the sewer line 8 friggin feet and they say no, and then on top of that fine him for not being connected to the sewer line??
My head is going to explode. - buba447, on 10/12/2007, -0/+22Behind this bulldozer there is more than just a man, there is an Idea; and ideas are bulletproof. So is the bulldozer, but you get the point.
- brettotte1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+22above comment has more of the story:
i remember my relatives telling us that he went after government property as well as any property owned by the City Council Members due to them granting the commercial permit of the concrete plant across from his biz.
originally, that land was rated for residential or biz i'm guessing, but they changed it to commercial for the plant which caused all that dust
for quite some time he wrote letters, made calls, attended meetings to stop the rezoning, but they basically just let the biz swoop in and ruin his shop
i think this should really make ppl think about the consequences of whom you piss off when doing crap like this. - waldo21, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23 - HERO -
- cardyology, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23Mental. You USA guys know how to get revenge. ha.
- legolasegb, on 10/12/2007, -1/+22@ theoallardyce
Come on dude, the news reporter said the police were surprised. The media always sensationalizes things. While they often get the thrust of the story, they REALLY screw up the details. In my experience, you just come to expect inaccuracies. I agree, it was not surprising that he committed suicide and I seriously doubt if the police were surprised. - MackPrime, on 10/12/2007, -1/+22this is supervillain grade creativity.
- Ratteler, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21Of course there are other "acceptable" ways. That what "they" want. They want you to peacefully wright letter and ask nicely for your rights back.
We need to do this ***** to the RIAA/MPAA, Oil companies, drug companies. We need an ARMY of Heemeyer's to remind these bastards WHO owns WHOM!!!!
We need to make a banner and slogan out of "What would Heemeyer do?" because REASON doesn't work on Tyrants. - toastgodsupreme, on 10/12/2007, -7/+26Damn right!
Wish he hadn't killed himself in the end, but I applaud him for standing up like that. We've become to complacent here in America. Letting our Govt run ***** how ever they want, forgetting that they are servants of the public, NOT the other way around. - nofxjunkee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18Days? Try 2 months planning and 1.5 _years_ to build it.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -10/+28Sorry youtube didn't show you the whole thing, you only missed about 20 seconds, the Bulldozer breaks down and the guy shoots himself.
Here's the whole thing with the extra 20 seconds:
http://www.filecabi.net/video/bullydozer6.html - bodger, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19Sad and cool at the same time.
- mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20Holy *****. I thought this only happened in hollywood action films.. wow.
- b403, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16If he had a D9, the whole town would have been fubar'ed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armored_bulldozer - Democritus2, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17bull.
You let yourself get kicked around and you might as well be dead. FREEDOM is worth fighting for. Just seems we are fighting the wrong people........................ - Phosphan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16Bagger 288? Easy to stop. "Powered with 16,560 kilowatts of externally-supplied electricity" - pull the plug (ok, it's a BIG plug) and it can't move.
- BufordT, on 10/12/2007, -4/+19I love it when a plan comes together.
- ase111, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16In modern society, there really is little else in the way of how to communicate trouble. politicians abondon the old promises, and here in the US, think they're in charge, it's for you to follow. The should be thinking of serving the people as best as possible- some do some (I don't think anit-video-game legislature is the right track).
I can't say he was without reason. I really can't. - ZigZags, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15I had flashbacks of Twisted Metal while he was positioning his bulldozer to take on the much larger machine. He completely raged against that machine. He must have been screwed over hardcore by those politicians for him to build an armored monster of that magnitude.
- Punisher2K, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry.
William F. Buckley - GutshotJimmy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17I wonder if this scared the FBI into monitoring all sales of bulldozers?
- Zippo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15It's like a trainwreck... it's so horrible and yet I'm enjoying every second of it.
- SpacemanSpiff, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Battlebots 2.0
- jasgeo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15Almost as cool as that guy who stole a tank
San Diego Tank Rampage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-ZlAK13RYE&search=stolen%20tank - justinmorris, on 10/12/2007, -6/+19I just watched this from work (Planning Dept and a county) and showed my boss (Planning Director). We loved it. Crazy nuts out there.
- nerdofnerds, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13Viva la V for Vendetta!
- MacGyverDXS, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Truly sad. I really feel for this guy. It's a shame that the city council pushed someone to do something like this.
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