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- apratsunrthd, on 07/06/2009, -1/+52If we sell reasonably priced cigarettes, the terrorists have already won.
- bigjoker420, on 07/07/2009, -1/+41$10 a pack in Chicago IL. I wish someone would smuggle cigarettes over here.
- Pantheran, on 07/06/2009, -1/+40Buried for the story at the beginning. It's enough to just report the news, don't try to make it seem like buying these cigarettes in tantamount to murdering soldiers.
- DouglasQ, on 07/07/2009, -1/+29I remember this one time I was found passed out naked in the gutter because I'd had one cigarette too many.
- inactive, on 07/07/2009, -0/+26Imagine that! ....A black market arises when the cost of a pack of smokes goes up thru the ying yang. Who would of ever thought!
Oh...By the way (if you make your own smokes), I believe there is a loophole that excluded mixtures of pipe tobacco and regular tobacco from the recent tax burn...so it is back to 78 cent packs of smokes for me.~Ohio - hiphoc, on 07/07/2009, -1/+24Once again free market and government creating a black market by prohibitive taxing. I have even had a guy on the corner try to hustle cigs to me... In NY, in the Bronx, like he was selling weed or crack. I kind of stopped and said to my self, is this guy selling cigarettes on the corner like it was weed or something? Wow
People want to do what people want to do. Prohibition creates a black market which fuels crime. Just look at alcohol prohibition.
Government cannot protect you by stealing your money (taxation).
Thanks for the education Ron Paul! - roddack, on 07/07/2009, -0/+22Welcome to what happens when you try and prevent people from getting a product that they want.
- asgardshill, on 07/07/2009, -4/+25This article illustrates why "sin" taxes like the ones we're currently seeing on tobacco are such a lame and dangerous idea. Sin taxes worked so well to eliminate alcohol consumption during Prohibition, so they just have to work to reduce tobacco use today. /s
- tonyjorb1337, on 07/07/2009, -0/+18Maybe the government should stop creating black markets.
- avengingturnip, on 07/06/2009, -2/+20Only a terrorist would try to avoid paying taxes on cigarettes.
- The2DQuartet, on 07/07/2009, -2/+17FTA: "One in ten cigarettes is sold underground."
Does that figure include subway station kiosks and vending machines?
Go ahead, bury me. I would. - g0atm0nster, on 07/07/2009, -0/+12I could be wrong but I thought the whole point of prohibition was that they prohibited the use of alcohol.
- cfuse, on 07/07/2009, -0/+11Terrorists. FFS can we just stop with that ***** already?
- inactive, on 07/07/2009, -0/+10eh i would say that paying taxes funds terrorism.
- AmyVernon, on 07/07/2009, -0/+10Why didn't he just go to the Seminole reservation and buy Harley cigs for $9 a carton? (OK, maybe they cost more than that now, but it wasn't that long ago....)
- missinglink, on 07/07/2009, -0/+10Government Logic: Raise taxes on cigarettes to fund the fight against black market cigarettes.
- MargotCross, on 07/06/2009, -3/+11meh.. cant we let them smuggle cigarettes? i feel like the feds have bigger fish to fry.
- casspa, on 07/07/2009, -2/+10No good news ever comes out of Florida...I don't get it, we have such a lovely state.
- mikeruiz7, on 07/07/2009, -0/+6Not that you can smoke them anywhere around here.
- mrmod, on 07/07/2009, -0/+6We need a war on cigarettes!! /s
- Greengoo, on 07/07/2009, -0/+6Pro: Beautiful warm weather
Con: Half the state is a festering swamp
Pro: Hot young women on beaches
Con: Clammy old people everywhere
Pro: Disney World
Con: Epcot - inactive, on 07/07/2009, -0/+5"terrorist" = anyone the government thugs don't like, ones avoiding their protection racket..um i mean taxes for one.
- darrellcskinner, on 07/07/2009, -0/+5your apparently unaware of the laws of the Universe. For every positive there is a negative.
- asgardshill, on 07/07/2009, -2/+7Mea culpa. Using Prohibition as an analogy here was stupid of me. Insufficient coffee input = tortured prose.
Confiscatory tax rates on any commodity tend to create a market vacuum for it which WILL be filled by any means necessary. - TheNik, on 07/07/2009, -0/+5Loose rolling tobacco has been significantly raised...
- diggduggjoe, on 07/07/2009, -0/+5The problem they do not really want to stop smokers. They hope and pray the addiction holds up against the high taxes. The states want the tax money.
You may grow your own tobacco, brew your own beer and make your own wine. ***** the taxes, start fighting back, DIY! - inactive, on 07/07/2009, -0/+5They changed the law on that too. Now they have to be labeled Indian cigarettes. And any non-Indian caught with them will be forced to pay a $1,000 fine and face misdemeanor charges. It was tacked on the bill that they passed recently raising our cigs another dollar.
- drazen77, on 07/07/2009, -0/+5What did you expect to happen when you tax a legal activity til its just like the narcotics trade? More profit in the underground than to sell them legally anymore.
Good job "I know whats best for everyone" voters and big government. /s - budboomer, on 07/07/2009, -0/+5Yea, and we hate you.
- badfrog, on 07/07/2009, -0/+4The douches in Washington are just as bad for raising the taxes to more than what the product costs. Buy black market if you like freedom!
- inactive, on 07/07/2009, -0/+4Cloves are for faggy goths. Plus they make your lungs bleed. I'd rather cough up brown ***** than chunks of blood.
- clickswitch, on 07/07/2009, -0/+4Same here in Singapore. Packs are $11.80 ($8.50US), but if you know where to look, you can find them for $3.50US. All smuggled and illegal. And I don't even want to go into the price of booze. In the liquor store, a bottle of jack daniels will run you $75. UGH.
- meed, on 07/07/2009, -0/+4I didn't read past the first page, but I don't think gangsters and smugglers should be labeled as terrorists. They are in it for the money, terrorists do what they do for other reasons than monetary gain. The federal government has been too quick to label everyday criminals as terrorists for reasons that probably would make the founding fathers turn in their graves. Smuggling cigarettes is done to avoid paying taxes on a item, while I have no doubt that there is a huge amount of profit to be made, the profit potential is created completely by state and federal taxes being as high as they are.
So I think these people are being labeled as terrorist as a attempt to keep the public opinion against them. But if you ask any smoker, the taxes on tobacco are becoming ridiculous. This could create a Robbin Hood situation or a situation similar to the whiskey Rebellion. Who really gets hurt? The businesses that legally sell tobacco and charge the taxed prices. - inactive, on 07/07/2009, -0/+3did you rape him?
- inigomntoya, on 07/07/2009, -0/+3Can I bum a fag?
- sedatedbylife, on 07/07/2009, -0/+3if they keep raising the taxes on them that's just what people are going to do.
- skinny01, on 07/07/2009, -0/+3Terrorists are the new injuns, *****, demons, witches, commies, pinkos, etc... Same formula, different packaging to control and unify the people by focusing them on a specific target.
- suntzusputnik, on 07/07/2009, -0/+3i hate terrorists. ***** you terrorists
- AmyVernon, on 07/07/2009, -0/+3No. Way.
- mrbroli, on 07/07/2009, -0/+3No! We must keep the cigarettes cost prohibitive! Think of the children! We're paying for the smokers' health care down the road! If you buy untaxed cigarettes, you're funding terrorism!
Next thing you know, it will be funding illegal aliens and raping babies. - inactive, on 07/07/2009, -0/+3in the butt, right?
- socokoolaid, on 07/07/2009, -0/+35 pages and a drivel story at the beginning! ***** that ; buried!
- skinny01, on 07/07/2009, -1/+4They do, just go to the south side and ask around for some "loose squares", $.25 each or $5/pack. Or just quit smoking or at least do it downwind from the non-smokers :)
- xdviper, on 07/07/2009, -0/+2Newyork is $9.75 a pack of Marlbolo Lights. Too ***** expensive. PA and those states down south are still cheap thats why I get them from friends who travel down there in the summer. Got 6 Cartons from Va for $30 each. Considering NY cartons go for $99.
- inactive, on 07/07/2009, -0/+2Wow, is this a news story or a novella? Also, taxation is theft.
- zdwade, on 07/07/2009, -0/+2i believe it would mean that for every 9 packs sold legally one would be sold illegally (no taxes paid).
- inigomntoya, on 07/07/2009, -0/+2It is unpatriotic not buy American cigarettes. You aren't a commie pinko, ARE YOU?!
- inigomntoya, on 07/07/2009, -0/+2They can't do that! That is reverse discrimination!
If I were a smoker, I would smoke any damn cigarette I damn well pleased! - CobaltScribe, on 07/07/2009, -0/+2The recently started children's health insurance plan (s-chip) may be a noble idea, but placing a draconian tax on tobacco products was not the way to fund it. Sadly nobody looks for the middle ground anymore.
- drazen77, on 07/08/2009, -0/+2Sadly, there are laws that limit your ability to make, consume, and distribute your own alcohol and tobacco.
And they have the ATF as their enforcers. An agency already so outside the limits of their charter as they operate as an illegal paramilitary force on U.S. soil.
The government wants their cut, and they'll take it from you by force if necessary. -
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