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Atheist challenges "In God We Trust" on US currency.

msnbc.msn.com — Please vote on this poll to keep "In God We Trust" on our currency. Digg and share.

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TheAmbushAhead, on 08/24/2008, -13/+12I voted to get it off just because you're bitching about it.
rightwingattila, on 08/24/2008, -8/+14Should the motto "In God We Trust" be removed from U.S. currency? * 6914767 responses as of 08-23-2008 9:25pm EST

Yes - 22% It's a violation of the principle of separation of church and state.

No - 78% The motto has historical and patriotic significance and does nothing to establish a state religion.
reland1, on 08/24/2008, -8/+13TheAmbushAhead oughta change his name to BushwhackedFromBehind....In God We Trust! In God We Trust! In God We Trust! In God We Trust! In God We Trust! In God We Trust! In God We Trust!.
.......ooooooh did that hurt? The only thing on our fiat money that's worth ANYTHING is.....uh...In God We Trust!
ChristNewsWatch, on 08/24/2008, -12/+9Maybe if the phrase was removed then more people would notice it and start asking why and figure out just how far this country has fallen away from God...

What Satan means for evil, God can use for good!
- KOSmurfy, on 08/24/2008, -4/+5More than 3/4 of the U.S. is christian. This country has not fallen away from god, but when it does, and society doesn't crumble, maybe you'll lighten up.
  - flip2trip, on 08/24/2008, -5/+53/4? Based on what? A survey of some type? God doesn't need a survey, He knows those who are sealed with the Blood of Christ.
    
    Matthew 7
    
    21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
  - 4Christ, on 08/26/2008, -0/+2Excuse me little g "god"? My God deserves the respect the Bible gives His Holy name with a Big G. And you are totally clueLESS if you don't see that American "society" has fallen away from the Creator of the Universe and all created life. Indeed the world has,but the once United States used to stand underneath the banner of "Under God" Now we're a country filled with so many "religious" beliefs, that they have served to dilute Christianity in the minds of some weaker Christians. Thusly satan has succeeded once again, at being able to pervert what God has said and meant for man's blessing into that which could be used to further his agenda.>The eternal suffering and damnation of mens souls.. Minister's,( and I do use the term VERY lightly--) of "light" stand in the pulpits of buildings that CALL themselves Churches, and preach/deliver another "gospel/message", one according to them,or rather Lucifer. They say: Don't WORRY bout IT!--We can CHANGE the laws--Look-- It's okay to be "gay"-kill your baby-commit adultery--lie-cheat-gamble-do drugs--steal, kill and destroy! -Eat,drink and be merry for tomorrow we shall NOT surely die AND stand before a Holy and Righteous Judge and give account for what we have done IN our bodies!!--and should we be found guilty before Him-??-be cast into Hell for all eternity! There? there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Jesus Christ warned us of this place and the deception which would come upon this world in these latter days. If you don't believe these ARE the latter days? Study some Bible Prophecy--You'll soon see. The liars are the ones who tell you God is dead-the big bang created it all--Darwinian rules or whatever the latest lie and delusion of the devil is. I'm here to share with you this most marvelous of truths. God IS Real and He is One. Jesus Christ is Lord and Savior and He would like nothing better than to be yours today if you do not not yet know Him? He is only a prayer away.
    John3:16 John 14:6
- osko2052, on 08/24/2008, -2/+7Recently I got one of the new USA gold dollar coins. I was looking all over for "In God We Trust" on it. Finally I found it printed in very small type around the outside edge of the coin.
mak747, on 08/24/2008, -10/+6ChristNewsWatch, you are so spot-on. The insanity of this culture and this country appears to know no bounds. No one knows how badly I wish that these little Digg posts cound reach the ABCNBCCBSCNNMSNBC, et al, ad nauseum folks. The very same people I call sheeple, lemmings, and ostriches. I'm no damned better than the whole lot of them, because I'm not spreading the message like I should be. You already know who I refer to. Folks who call themselves democrats (notice I never capitalize that word anymore) who listen to talking heads and stare blindeyed at their TV sets waiting for the next talking head to tell them what to think. These people on the "news" are the same ones who tell people to change the batteries in their smoke detectors when we go from DST to ST, as if we are too stupid to think for ourselves. They are the same people that tell us to send our kids into the maw of government schools so that they can be prechewed, masticated, expelled as feces and then reingested to appear again as perfect little government servants.
Of course! Take "In God We Trust" off of our currency! It's a god-damned lie having it there! What kind of ***** hyped-up tripe is going to convince the likes of me that there is enough trust in God to warrant us printing a lie on our money, which really isn't worth a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of to start with?
Of COURSE this pisses me off! Why should it not? This country simply doesn't give a rat's ass about God anymore, and I dare anyone to prove me wrong! I would welcome real contradictory news with a hug and two tons of repentance-I just don't see it coming any time forthcoming. Remember the Roman Empire. Learn from history, for God's sakes, people! D-u-u-u-h, IGWT will soon be a relic of the past. Satan smiles.
- DuggDowner, on 08/24/2008, -0/+3The Roman Empire was destroyed because they got lazy and quit feeding Christians to the lions. Had that worthless tribe been eradicated we might all still be speaking latin.
- SQLDigger, on 08/24/2008, -0/+1mak747, I couldn't agree more. I don't think it makes much nevermind to God what we put on our money. "Render unto Caesar" and all that. I think God would much prefer to write His Own Word on all of our hearts. What God really wants is the sacrifice of 300,000,000 broken and contrite hearts, and that is what I pray for.
- somnambulator, on 08/24/2008, -1/+2The decline of the Roman Empire seems to be proportional to the number of Emperors that became christian.
  Not, as the fundy's claim, though decadence and depravity.
  
  This decline in the Roman Empire culminated in the Holy Roman Empire holed up in a little walled city, where they spent all their time navel gazing, and arguing the toss over who was more religious than who, and holding a popularity contest to be included in their new book.
  
  Roman Empire:
  Julio-Claudian Dynasty
  Flavian Dynasty
  Severan Dynasty
  Constantinian Dynasty = Ruled by Julian, a baptized christian (though hated by other christians) followed by Jovian, another christian (loved by christians).
  Valentinian Dynasty
  Theodosian Dynasty
  
  Roman/Byzantine Empire = Completely christian. The destruction of Constantinople and most of its ancient treasures, total discontinuity of leadership, and the division of its lands into rival states with a Catholic-controlled "Emperor" in Constantinople itself was a blow from which the Empire never fully recovered.
  
  The Holy Roman Empire = On the Christmas Day of year 800 Pope Leo III crowned the Frankish monarch Charlemagne "Emperor of the Romans".
  More than 150 years later the title of Emperor of the Romans passed to the German monarch Otto I, who founded the Holy Roman Empire.
  Although most of the emperors were Germanic, the Holy Roman Emperors thought of themselves as being successors to those of the Roman Empire and called themselves Augusti.
TheGroje, on 08/24/2008, -2/+8Does anyone remember the last time a user poll on msnbc or cnn actually changed national policy?
Sludgehammer, on 08/24/2008, -3/+8I suspect that that poll is even more meaningless then a normal online poll. Because, unless this is such a amazing topic that around 7 million people have rushed to vote, someones been using a voting bot.
- rightwingattila, on 08/24/2008, -9/+4Of course this poll is meaningless as it does not support your anti-God beliefs. If it did, you'd be all over it and we all know it. Sorry Sparky, many more polls show some 80+% of Americans believe in God, even with all the garbage they're taught in public school and university to the contrary.
  - eir574, on 08/24/2008, -2/+7"f it did, you'd be all over it and we all know it."
    
    Um, no. It sounds like sludgehammer understands that online polls are completely useless. My understanding of basic statistics doesn't change based on the outcome of the poll.
- jub0r, on 08/24/2008, -1/+5I got the link spammed to me by Christian family members on Friday. I think the word got out about it on the Christian email lists.
- flip2trip, on 08/24/2008, -6/+3Ummm no, you just don't want to be in the minority which is why you like coming on digg so you can hang with yo' atheist homeys.
  - SQLDigger, on 08/24/2008, -3/+3Word, brother.
  - Evilena, on 08/24/2008, -2/+4That is really stupid flip. Even if we cared about being in the minority, atheists are not going to feel better about anything by telling themselves lies.
  - flip2trip, on 08/26/2008, -0/+2Ahh, you do care Evilena which is why you follow all the Christian threads so you and your "brethren" can gather to symbolically "throw the Christians to the lions". You love spouting your so-called logic as this is what makes you feel superior to the "idiots" who believe in the "sky-fairy". It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.
- dan2, on 08/24/2008, -1/+6Check out the date of the article. It's been circulating forever, hence the all the votes.
  - Sludgehammer, on 08/24/2008, -1/+1Right, I know the polls old, but if (now over) 7 million people voted on this, that would mean that 2.31% percent of America has visited this poll at some point. If I saw a three year old poll about console gaming, or sports teams, or something else people get themselves really worked up over, with over seven million votes I would still say the same thing, someone has been using a voting bot.
waggdogg, on 08/24/2008, -9/+10If we don't trust in God, than who do we put our trust in? Washington?
- dan2, on 08/24/2008, -5/+6Trusting your imaginary friends has no impact in the real world.
- Evilena, on 08/24/2008, -2/+6You are free to put your trust in God if you want. No one is telling you not to. We just don't want the government putting it on the money.
  - Equinox2012, on 08/24/2008, -2/+5What's the annual interest rate God is pulling down right now?
- KOSmurfy, on 08/24/2008, -2/+4"If we don't trust in God, than who do we put our trust in? Washington?"
  
  What else do you think you're doing every time you vote?
  - SQLDigger, on 08/24/2008, -3/+3Speaking for myself - my duty as a citizen. However, my trust is in God, because even the most honorable of men are untrustworthy, and politicians even more so.
    
    That being said, I care more about the personal truth of the statement "in God I trust" than what's on the transitory money in my pocket.
- kayala, on 08/24/2008, -3/+4I don't trust in "God." I trust in reason. Therefore, "In God we trust" is inaccurate and a personal smear against those who obviously do not put their trust in supernatural creatures.
Falldog, on 08/24/2008, -5/+5I say they replace it with a picture of God giving us the thumbs up sign. Or Raptor Jesus.
DuggDowner, on 08/24/2008, -8/+8We can't take God off our currency because bilking people out of money is what religion is all about.
- flip2trip, on 08/24/2008, -5/+6How is it you equate God with religion? Putting "In God We Trust" on our money is religion neutral. Surely even you know that God does not equal religion.
  - Coven, on 08/24/2008, -3/+5Many religions do not believe in "God" so to speak. You, and the slogan on the money, reference the Judeo-Christian god, who is also the god of the Muslims. The capitalized "God" indicates that specific deity, whereas a lowercase "god" refers to no specific one. Your god, is not the god worshipped by other religions and spiritualities. There are those who believe in no god, or multiple gods, or spiritual planes of existence, or clusters of spaghetti and meatballs, etc. Saying "In God We Trust" is inherently false, because it is stated as though it is coming from a group of people as diverse as the United States. In actually "In God We Trust" is an inaccurate statement. It should be "In God A Bunch Of Us Trust". I am part of "We" and I do not believe in a god.
  - Sludgehammer, on 08/24/2008, -2/+6I disagree, for starters "In God we trust" implies one God, which by default discriminates against pantheistic belief systems. Secondly, when "In God we trust" was put on to the currency it's very naive to believe that they didn't have a very specific very Christian God in mind.
    
    Actually, that raises a question, how would you feel about "In God we trust" being on our money if the person who suggested it was a Satanist who put it there to extol the virtues (or would that be vices?) of his god Satan?
- Evilena, on 08/24/2008, -4/+8Trusting in a God you believe in out of faith requires religion.
  - flip2trip, on 08/26/2008, -2/+2Horsesh*t. You don't have a religion and you have your god science.
  - Evilena, on 09/03/2008, -0/+2Horsesh*t. Science is not a god.
Evilena, on 08/24/2008, -10/+8Michael Newdow is right. The motto is an unconstitutional endorsement of religion.
- flip2trip, on 08/24/2008, -6/+6OK Evilena--which of the thousands of religions does it specifically endorse?
  - kayala, on 08/24/2008, -3/+5All of the religions to which I do not belong. I do not believe in any "God," especially not of the Christian variety, so why should it say "In God we trust"? "We" collectively trust in tons of different things, not necessarily supernatural creatures.
  - flip2trip, on 08/26/2008, -0/+2Belief in God does not endorse any religion specifically, all it does is acknowledge a power greater than man--even you do that when you marvel at nature.
- Evilena, on 08/24/2008, -4/+6Many at the same time
jub0r, on 08/24/2008, -1/+7Pro tip: you can vote from the same IP once per computer and per browser.
- Evilena, on 08/24/2008, -3/+4Cool...
  Now someone needs to write a script to vote Yes over and over in a loop that people can download and submit the link to Digg.
ryan83189, on 08/24/2008, -3/+4Please don't, God's non existent trust is the last thing holding our currency together!
ThoughtfulWi, on 08/25/2008, -4/+1Given what Jesus Christ had to say about God and Mammon, and considering how he thought about the moneychangers in the temple, I don't believe he would be pleased with this god reference on our money.
Wolfpack46, on 08/25/2008, -2/+5Love the exchange very uplifting/LOL/do believe the law says "clearly" that CONGRESS will not establish a national religion, my question: HAS CONGRESS ESTABLISHED A NATIONAL RELIGION?, do believe the answer is NO. So what is all this stuff about separation, oh I get it, not congress but the judges are the one's establishing the religion, something like secular humanism/lol a religion they like and defend well. Now we have an active warfare against any of the expressions that gave an identity to this country, and please spare me from all the half witted trash about freedom of speech/not in the mood/will explain it for you; in a secular humanistic society there is no freedom of speech, get it, remember the boys in the hood; Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Idi, they were sh's and the only thing you said came from them/lol
Two more points:
No more jada, jada, jada, the only reason you have the right to open mouth and insert foot is because 2,000 years ago one man hung on a cross to set us free, with truth, and free indeed.
To the non-believer, your choice, that's all there is to it, your choice, you will have your day, He said it 2,000 years ago, you will kill us all day long, and you will celebrate.
But do remember; He said He was coming back.....
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