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- KJGJ, on 10/06/2008, -28/+777Franklin was deist, not atheist.
- 1776, on 10/06/2008, -50/+647Einstein was more of an agnostic than an atheist, I think.
- geoffg, on 10/06/2008, -41/+427Digg is completely out of control with misinformation.
- inactive, on 10/06/2008, -34/+377Franklin was a Deist.
Jefferson was a Deist.
Einstein was probably an agnostic although it isn't very clear.
Twain probably wasn't an atheist, more like a critic of organized religion. His faith is dubious.
Didn't Darwin believe in lesser gods or something, or am I thinking of some other 19th century biologist.
Also, Lincoln was an atheist? I'll need a source for that.
I'm an agnostic that sympathizes with atheists and religious people, but I must say this picture and people digging it up are making your cause look bad. - inactive, on 10/06/2008, -105/+413Sagan wasn't an athiest.
Digg, a wonderful source for misinformation! - Jb611, on 10/06/2008, -76/+358k we get it. People on digg are atheists. But why is it that the atheists seem to be pushing their message more than the religious nuts? It's started to get a little annoying.
- ggnictee, on 10/06/2008, -27/+240I think one of the best tools to get people thinking about their beliefs and dogma etc is not doing something just because that's what someone else did.
Also: it's not really clear that the poeple up there are atheists. Didn't Einstein say "God doesn't play dice". Either he believed in God or just very much disliked dice.
Anyway: I know what the picture is trying to say "Hey, Atheists aren't crazy people who want to destroy society, eat babies and marry monkeys." And this is an important message that a lot of people Really need to hear and take to heart because I know a lot of very nice Atheists who aren't trying to destroy America at all (it's just as important to note that not all Christians are Sarah Palin (she scares me))
I just don't think this picture does a good job at achieving the goal of conversion or teaching tolerance. - lowbot, on 10/06/2008, -10/+152No, its pretty much agnosticism. Or at least closer to agnosticism than atheism.
Atheism is a complete denial of god and supernatural beings. Hence the whloe " a - theism."
A lot of these people were not atheists and its disingenuous for atheists to lump them into their numbers.
>there really weren't any other ways to explain the creation of the world and life on it during the 18th century.
An agnostic approach was certainly known. Heck, buddhism was 2300+ years old at the time and its clearly stated in the suttas that the buddha refused to answer these questions and monks classified them as "unanswerable."
So there are alternative explanations. Again, atheist evangelists really need to be more honest. - Yookji, on 10/06/2008, -21/+157Sagan once wrote, "The idea that God is an oversized white male with a flowing beard, who sits in the sky and tallies the fall of every sparrow is ludicrous. But if by 'God' one means the set of physical laws that govern the universe, then clearly there is such a God. This God is emotionally unsatisfying... it does not make much sense to pray to the law of gravity."
In other words, he did not believe in a personal god, so, like Einstein, he was essentially an atheist. - psykiv, on 10/06/2008, -17/+139I'm atheist, but I find this to be annoying. I don't want people pushing their ***** down my throat, so I don't push it down theirs. That is exactly what this is doing: shoving atheism down people's throats.
- Yookji, on 10/06/2008, -22/+141I believe this would be a better picture:
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/08/02/good ... - bixby1, on 10/06/2008, -29/+140Is that Tom Selleck with the pipe? He's libertarian.
- tigertee, on 10/06/2008, -6/+103 just so you guys know, you being an atheist doesnt make you intelligent like these guys!
- TxAggie08, on 10/06/2008, -17/+107Digg is getting out of control with a pro-Atheist, pro-Obama, Republicans are the devil, Christians suck mantra.
- orp2000, on 10/06/2008, -21/+103Why do atheists proselytize so ardently, when that is one of the things they claim to hate most about religious people?
- crusel832, on 10/06/2008, -6/+85i completely agree, i scarcely recall any article on Digg pushing Christianity, so what exactly prompted all the atheism articles and pictures attacking religion?
- inactive, on 10/06/2008, -16/+91Atheism, good enough for the idiot that put this image together in probably five minutes of research on some ridiculous atheism site. Just because someone doesn't claim Christianity, or questions conventional religion, doesn't make them an atheist.
- JigoroKano, on 10/06/2008, -11/+81He was neither actually. His views were most in line with the pantheism of Spinoza.
But he didn't believe in a personal god at all, so as far as most Christians are concerned he was atheist as he did not believe in Yahweh or anything remotely compatible. - TxAggie08, on 10/06/2008, -15/+74I decided most of the people on Digg are retarded, if anything. Facts be damned as long as its a pro-Apple, Pro-Obama/ Ron Paul, Pro-Atheism or Anti Microsoft, Bush, Christians, McCain, Palin. It's just ridiculous. I'll get dugg down just for pointing out this mere fact.
- rhinofinger, on 10/06/2008, -13/+70Abe Lincoln was a badass.
- CoreyTamas, on 10/06/2008, -14/+67Sagan and Einstein? Atheists? Hardly.
If some Christian put together a "motivational" poster with atheists in it and called them Christians, this place would be burned to the ground. - scarz99, on 10/06/2008, -8/+60Whoever pasted all that together needs to gtfo the internets.
Franklin WAS a deist. - Klowner, on 10/06/2008, -3/+55WTF, Lincoln? Something about this screams false information..
- col381, on 10/06/2008, -6/+58Sorry, but dead wrong. I suggest you read "The Demon Haunted World" and then get back to us champ, he devoted this excellent book entirely to dismissing belief in the supernatural - including god.
The only thing Sagan ever said he was "Agnostic" about was whether there was life in outer space, he took this position because he felt he did not have enough information. When asked by a journalist for his gut feel he famously replied that he "preferred not to think with his gut" & "it is ok to be agnostic about some things if there is no evidence either way".
In regards to God he once stated "The idea that God is an oversized white male with a flowing beard, who sits in the sky and tallies the fall of every sparrow is ludicrous. But if by 'God' one means the set of physical laws that govern the universe, then clearly there is such a God. This God is emotionally unsatisfying... it does not make much sense to pray to the law of gravity." -
Put simply he believed in the majesty of the Universe, but did not believe that there was a being or entity that created it.
- TJ909, on 10/06/2008, -7/+56whoever made this picture is a moron.
Look up Lincoln's famous speeches. makes tons of references to God and the Bible - jakatak, on 10/06/2008, -13/+62I am beginning to see that religious posts don't do well on Digg. Man, you guys are brutal!
- Yookji, on 10/06/2008, -51/+98As was Jefferson, but Deism is the belief that God created the world but is no longer involved with it. It's pretty much Atheism considering that there really weren't any other ways to explain the creation of the world and life on it during the 18th century.
- inactive, on 10/06/2008, -17/+64Scientists don't know everything.
(prepare to be dugg down) - Markb3489, on 10/06/2008, -4/+49im gay
eat me
.........wait...no.....something went horribly wrong there - 1776, on 10/06/2008, -7/+50@JigoroKano - Yeah, that sounds about right.
The following is from "The world as I see it" by Albert Einstein.
(On God and religion...)
“The most beautiful experience we can have is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion that stands at the cradle of true art and true science.”
“Whoever does not know it and can no longer wonder, no longer marvel, is as good as dead, and his eyes are dimmed. It was the experience of mystery — even if mixed with fear — that engendered religion. A knowledge of the existence of something we cannot penetrate, our perceptions of the profoundest reason and the most radiant beauty, which only in their most primitive forms are accessible to our minds: it is this knowledge and this emotion that constitute true religiosity.”
“In this sense, and only this sense, I am a deeply religious man… I am satisfied with the mystery of life’s eternity and with a knowledge, a sense, of the marvelous structure of existence — as well as the humble attempt to understand even a tiny portion of the Reason that manifests itself in nature.”
This excerpt alone shows that Einstein wasn't a fan of atheism even if he didn't subscribe to any particular religion. - organik, on 10/06/2008, -27/+68Atheism is as stupid as religion. You cannot know there is no god any more than you can know there is one.
I'm totally comfortable saying I DON'T KNOW!!!! - wissler, on 10/06/2008, -56/+96Deism is politically-correct atheism.
- mbm1512, on 10/06/2008, -10/+50whoever made this picture is an idiot who didn't do any more than three minutes of background searching on anyone
- idavidtang, on 10/06/2008, -5/+41I think Abraham Lincoln was a protestant.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Lincoln_and_r ... - m0laria, on 10/06/2008, -9/+44Darwin was 1 step away from being a priest. He was never an atheist.
- Ramenboy005, on 10/06/2008, -3/+38most of us religious people....are in the hiding when it comes to Digg articles....
most think that religious people are crazy and vice versa....
id rather keep my beliefs to myself rather than start a meaningless arguement..and be called a troll - FallenTurtles, on 10/06/2008, -0/+32You could do what I'm doing and just disregard this entire submission instead of waiting for a source.
- inactive, on 10/06/2008, -9/+41So what is this poster trying to say?
I can make a poster with a bunch of famous religious inventors/scientists titled "Religion, Good enough for these idiots" too. - fwertz, on 10/06/2008, -10/+42Sandwiches are God.
Eat God. - drtitanium0, on 10/06/2008, -31/+62Screw that. God FTW!!
- inactive, on 10/06/2008, -28/+58Over 230 Idiots dugg this up to the front page?
Geez - Digg is full of retards.
Don;t forget to digg my comment down you dumbasses. - bootfail, on 10/06/2008, -4/+33Mark Twain, not Tom Selleck.
- b1ffr43p, on 10/06/2008, -5/+34Atheism is not outright certainty that a deity does not exist. That is gnostic atheism.
You are conflating 2 orthogonal variables:
theism |-----------| atheism
gnosticism |-----------| agnosticism
It is another leap of faith to be outright certain that a deity does not exist, and thus I would think that one who subscribes to rationalism and reason would not be justified in taking that leap without evidence (which, since it lies outside the realm of empirical testability, is difficult at best to be certain that an untestable hypothesis does or does not exist). - Jassman, on 10/06/2008, -8/+36ggnictee, read the God Delusion by Richard Dawkins. He devotes almost the entire first chapter to explaining how people take Einstein's references to God out of context.
"I received your letter of June 10th. I have never talked to a Jesuit priest in my life and I am astonished by the audacity to tell such lies about me. From the viewpoint of a Jesuit priest I am, of course, and have always been an atheist." - Albert Einstein - kanabiis, on 10/06/2008, -10/+38Get out of here with your facts Yookji..... they have no place in this discussion!!
- RAEP, on 10/06/2008, -2/+30Hearing a voice in your head isn't called proof, it's called schizophrenia.
- rubored, on 10/06/2008, -27/+54God is gay.
Eat dick. - offcenter, on 10/06/2008, -7/+33Uh, I don't think _any_ of those people should be considered to be atheists. I hate to rain on anybody's parade but Darwin essentially believed in Intelligent Design: that evolution was the "how," and not the "why."
What _do_ they teach in the schools these days? - DreKor, on 10/06/2008, -7/+33... and therefore not atheism
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