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- LakeshoreBaby, on 10/11/2007, -1/+49Yah you can play Halo 2 on XP with a combination of both the crack and software patch. I bought the game yesterday and got the patches from Filefront. You use a special loader from abcba to install the game on XP from the Halo 2 Vista DVD and also run the exe once installed. But the guy who made the loader couldn't solve the activation problem. I was unable to activate the game even tho I had a valid product key. And without that you can't play online and you can't play the campaign past the first level. But if you add the RAZOR patch as well, you can at least play the campaign mode. Explained well on Firefront forums.
http://forums.filefront.com/halo-problems-errors-help/316160-run-halo-2-xp-10.html
For the actual links to the abcba patch and also the RAZOR patch, just go back a few pages.
http://forums.filefront.com/halo-problems-errors-help/316160-run-halo-2-xp-6.html (abcba DBG patch)
The name of the RAZOR patch is "razor1911 halo 2", search for it on P2P
But please buy the game.
Alky should be out at the end of July. - Phocion55, on 10/11/2007, -2/+26Thanks for the lame vendor lockin attempt, Microsoft!
"While Microsoft has made the argument that adding DirectX 10 required an architectural change to the operating system that could not easily be backported to Windows XP, this argument falls flat when it comes to Halo 2 and Shadowrun, neither of which use DirectX 10." - BrandonMills, on 10/11/2007, -0/+22Game developers that aim DX10-only need to consider the current Vista installed base, and the fact that a DX9 game can look pretty sweet and will run on XP. XP, which is still supported till 2013 by MS themselves. Furthermore, the OS has a smaller system footprint that Vista.
I don't understand why Microsoft doesn't just make a 'gamer mode' boot that has only things gamers want enabled on startup. Yes, you can do it on your own, but it would make so much sense to have this already there in the OS. - crazybugger, on 10/11/2007, -7/+22Microsoft thinks they are very intelligent.
"HEY MICROSOFT"
There are more intelligent people who can give a run for your money. - noctu, on 10/11/2007, -4/+16if they can hack DX10 to run on xp then it will be like vista never existed.
- zeptobyte, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9It's still vendor lock-in. -_-
- Phocion55, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8You forgot to include your PayPal information so Microsoft's marketing division can drop you some money.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6I think 486 is a processor type while here we are talkin about Operating systems (XP and Vista??).
- OpCzar, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6But you're still encouraging this practice if you're buying vista-only games.
- totorototoro, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6"showing that there is public demand for games that run on both operating systems"
Its more that people don't WANT to have to worry about "which OS" to use to play a ***** game. This whole Vista is for Gamers campaign would be more credible if, you know, Microsoft had more convincing arguments as to why Vista is "better" for games. - nihility, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Well they were able to run on Vista before Razor1911 did anything, but they did provide it to the masses. I think you mean XP though.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Works on Vista, sucks on Vista with Nvidia card. I just bought a new ATI card because Nvidia's Vista drivers suck so bad, and they show no sign of release a decent driver.
- MioTheGreat, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4The thing you have to remember is that under XP, no one felt the need to bother with dealing with user privledges, and not running as an Admin. For like 6 years, you had software coming out that did this. Now, you've got Vista, which has some pretty strong seperation of privledges for processes, and things break. There's no way around it. It was either: Break a few apps that were coded very very poorly, or stick with ***** security.
- mogdor, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4I'm still pissed that they took freakin' Internet Checkers out of vista. Bastards!
- BrandonMills, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Unless somehow surfing the internet becomes highly more taxing on PCs that it is now, I can't imagine many of the 2GHz+ PCs just being 'tossed' when XP support is over. Sounds like the perfect time to promote Linux - as MS drops support for perfectly functioning versions of Windows just to try to move OSes.
- Puripong24, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Actually, I don't like Windows Vista, I tried it and given up because it cannot support many programs I'm using for my works. I don't understand why windows vista is not backward compatible with programs based on windows xp. I also do not see any different in performance between them.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -3/+7So they are trying to shove Vista down gamer's throats when the gamers are the ones smart enough to know that Vista SUCKS ASS!
- stympman, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3How about Microsoft lowers the price and fixes all the compatibility issues. Then people will buy their new OS.
- Phocion55, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Exactly. So there's NOTHING stopping people from playing those games on XP, except some extra layers of good ol' fashion MS crippleware.
Which begs the question: What else isn't MS telling us about DX10 and XP? Are we supposed to trust them? - carl25, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5if they backported dx10 games, that would be something. This isn't
- toppgun, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3give me the phone number of this friend and I will believe you.
- awhiteflame, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Compared to Vista, that's basically what XP is.
- fibreoptix, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3What kills me is Halo 2 or Halo in General is a sub par FPS on the PC. Why bother trying to make it work on XP anyway. Play Half Life 2 to see a great FPS. Now if they could make Direct X10 run on XP now that would be an achievement.
- Genma, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3its not so much they think they are that intelligent, they just consider everyone else stupid. if they're going to use cheap hacks to lock those titles into the new OS then people will just reverse engineer them the same way. seeing how quick and easily this was done just proves how full of ***** they are.
- MioTheGreat, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Uh yeah. Unless your friend was working on Microsoft's DirectX team, and even then, working only with early versions of DirectX 10, he's full of crap.
DirectX10 has _never_ been released for XP. The API itself is so tied down in WDDM on Vista that it'd be impossible to rip it and just run it on XP. You'd have to write your own DX10 API for XP, which is a task unbelievably mind bogglingly complex. Then there's the fact that none of the DirectX 10 stuff is even in the XP drivers, so hardware support is out of the question. Yeah. He's full of crap. - Phocion55, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3There IS a "better" reason for using Vista for gaming, according to this article:
MS crippled the games so they couldn't run on XP. - bagboyrebel, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2http://www.nukescripts.net/modules.php?name=News&op=NEArticle&sid=3885
apparently it's already been done(I can't verify myself because I got vista from my school and already have it installed, so I don't know if it actually works) - hordak, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I'm still on Win2K because 99% of games that work on XP work on Win2K --- does this mean that I can play Halo2 on Win2K or are there WinXP dependancies? Thanks!
- Destinatus, on 10/11/2007, -0/+21st you mean "Vista" not "XP," 2nd you're wrong
- Dustmuffins, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2"There are more intelligent people who can give a run for your money."
Unfortunately that's a lot of running for a LOT of money =( - loneraven, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Yea, you would think with the long public beta period, that more software developers would at least have upgraded their software to work with vista by the time of retail release.
But nope, so many programs were broken or crippled. I was running vista for a couple of months, and I realized the only new feature that I really used was the integrated search. I can do the same thing with so many other applications on XP. For me, Vista isn't necessarily useful yet, and the changes they've made seem to be mostly trivial. Personally I wasn't concerned with an interface update (although apple users love these updates it seems) when I will just get bored of it in a couple of months anyway.
But yea, end of my mini rant. - nOOBert, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2WoW (World Of Warcraft) does work on XP. Works on Vista too.
- Destinatus, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I think the few people that play WoW would disagree with you. I don't play it, but I still disagree with you.
- noctu, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2this was already known and is an after the fact comment, please upgrade your thoughtware.
- Lassan, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2MS is supporting XP till 2011, not 2013
- MioTheGreat, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2It's even more than just the drivers. First you need a D3D10 API, then you need the drivers. The only directx10 api in known existance is tied down to WDDM drivers, in Vista. So you can't just pull it and run it on XP.
- SaxxonPike, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2A "minimalistic" installation option? That kinda reminds me of the Windows Server 2k3 Experience Edition. A barebones installation that loaded up obscenely fast. They need something like that for Vista as well as future releases. Price it accordingly as well. People might actually buy it then.
- brokensocialste, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2OK Bill, Will do.
- Phocion55, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3MS is trying to lock-in users to Vista with **crippled games that would normally run fine in XP**
This is the truth. - Optimaximal, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2The DX10 version of Lost Planet suffers from crippled frame-rates with little to no improvement in visuals - after all, it's a DirectX 9-ish game on the Xbox360 with DX10 code crammed in to get some sales...
Same for Call of Juarez... - Urusai, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Sad but true, ever since the original Xbox was just a stripped Windows PC developers have been jumping on the console bandwagon, which is too bad because consoles have yet to have a decent mouselook. The games are usually shallower, too. I played Halo on an Xbox all the way through, and for a console it was pretty good. For a PC, it was pretty mediocre. Developers prefer consoles because they are a fixed hardware target and the market is apparently larger.
- HolyChimp, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I'm pretty sure that the reason MS gave for Halo 2 and Shadowrun being Vista only is the Games for Windows Live thingy. I assume they put in a quick hack to stop people installing it on XP just so the average Joe doesn't install it on XP then bitch when multiplayer doesn't work. This will be news when the Windows Live thingy is ported to XP to allow multiplayer.
- halleyscomet, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2We can just wait for the WINE implementation of DirectX 10. At that point, we can create a DirectX 10 runtime for Windows 2000 AND XP, not to mention Linux and Mac.
Windows ME on the other hand, let's leave that bastard step child in the gutter. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2no point in buying a old crappy game that microsoft had the ballz to cripple it only to one os in order to force people to move to a new OS that isnt offering much anyways. Halo 2 for the most part can run fine with even a 4 year old computer running windows XP. Its MS greed that made the crappy halo franchise even crappier.
- totorototoro, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Phocion55...:lol:, well..besides that one :p
- halleyscomet, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2No, compared to Vista, that's what 2000 is.
What has MS added since Windows 2000 that's worth keeping? System restore, which rarely works anyway, and a bunch of graphical hooks that could easily have been back ported to Windows 2000.
Oh, and a bunch of animations that I could have gotten form a $20 shareware program. - skrowl, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1What good is a NON-INTERNET-MULTIPLAYER version of Shadowrun or Halo 2? They should mention in the title of this submission that you CAN'T PLAY THESE VERSIONS ONLINE.
- necbone, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1***** VISTA and EVIL MARKET PRACTICES
- championchap, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Vista only games have been cracked to work on XP for a while now.. well, one of them at least.
Geometry Wars is Vista only, but it runs just fine on my XP PC with a little patching. - sirmasterboy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1The 360 has an ATI R600 GPU complete with DX10 paths...
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