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Team Fortress 2 Update in Mid-April: Goldrush, New Weapons

shacknews.com — The next batch of free content for the PC edition of Team Fortress 2--including the new Goldrush map, unlockable weapons, and Meet the Scout video--is slated to arrive the week of April 20, Valve has informed Shacknews.

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  • timbro1, on 03/27/2008, -2/+32http://steamcommunity.com/groups/digg
    • antdude, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1Does Kevin and other Digg staff members play too?
      • BugMeNot2, on 03/27/2008, -1/+5I doubt it. The only PC games they seem to play are MMOs.
        • LongShlong, on 03/27/2008, -2/+1I can't see Kevin playing an MMO, as stated... I'm sure his ADD is to account for that...
      • SharkyTech, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1There was some TF2 machinima I saw with Kevin and Alex, or at least their voices in it. It was just a 10 second thing, like an intro for diggnation, it didn't seem like someone just copied and pasted their voices.
        • seanthebond, on 03/28/2008, -0/+1It was an ad. for a company on Diggnation.
    • lava, on 03/27/2008, -6/+1I played a goldrush map a couple of nights ago, I wish I could remember the server. It was one of the coolest maps I've ever played.
  • Burrito, on 03/27/2008, -1/+23I WANT TO PLAY THE ROCK MAP!
    Why is that so difficult for Valve to grasp?
    • swrostmore, on 03/27/2008, -1/+2what rock map?
    • Lokishot, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1You mean "the rock" map?
    • FieldAnonymouse, on 03/27/2008, -1/+0If that's the same one I'm thinking of, I'm right there with you. It was one of my favorite maps. Not so much Canal Zone.

      Also I for one hope they never bring back "hunted" style maps.
      • surf314, on 03/27/2008, -0/+10You mean the VIP maps? I loved those!
      • bearcat8543, on 03/27/2008, -0/+4Last time i checked, goldrush is supposed to mimic the hunted. get it? escort?
    • f4nt0m4s, on 03/27/2008, -0/+13are you referring to Rock2? That was my favorite map in TFC. The level with the two courtyards, the underground mine tunnel and the sniper forts with water separating the two bases...that and Badlands were my two absolute favorite maps, both had great balance and multiple paths to avoid linear battles.
      • Burrito, on 03/27/2008, -0/+8Yes, Rock2, that's the one.
      • Somedude2137, on 03/27/2008, -1/+6you forgot to mention the "GAS GAS GAS GAS.... GET A SUIT QUICK!!!!"
      • Chetyre, on 03/27/2008, -0/+2Actually, people are already working on Rock2. I downloaded it but haven't gotten a chance to play it yet.
        Here's the link for the thread on the steam forums: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.p ...
      • xlneoMAXlx, on 03/28/2008, -2/+1Hmm... two forts... sniper posts...underground passages...courtyard between...

        sound like every other damn Valve map for TF2.
    • zephyr42, on 03/27/2008, -0/+6Yeah me too.... It's like when UT3 came out and they didn't release the map Face.
    • RockStrongo1, on 03/27/2008, -0/+0I was just playing this yesterday on TF2. If you hunt for it, there are a few servers running it. It brings back fond memories.. like where the hell to run to grab the last gas mask.. muwahahahaha. One of my favorite maps too....
  • logicalnoise, on 03/27/2008, -0/+6out of everything listed the new meet the short has me the most excited. Suposedly all of them are done they are just waiting to release them all.
    • Kingoftherings, on 03/27/2008, -0/+2Yeah, meet the Scout will probably be the best release out of those. :D
      Don't get me wrong, I've been waiting for this update forever. The new game mode sounds awesome, and more achievements should keep me busy.
    • Gir53457, on 03/27/2008, -1/+1lol valve tiem
    • thrillhouse900, on 03/28/2008, -0/+2i heard of them working on 'the next Meet The video on that thing in game trailers, so i think they do them one at a time, i dont think theyll get through all of them

      SO PUMPED for Meet The Scout though

      EAT IT FATTY
  • ryuujinusa, on 03/27/2008, -2/+12Awesome, TF2 is pro.
  • mattyice11, on 03/27/2008, -3/+17The 10 seconds of crits goes to waste if you're playing on a no-crit server.
    • alexforcefive, on 03/27/2008, -4/+1And if you're not playing pyro or heavy
      • Gerz1219, on 03/27/2008, -1/+5*****, a soldier with all crits should have enough time to destroy any engineer's den. They can even do it at range, which is an advantage over the invincibility gun. I think it would be impractical to uber a demoman using the new crit gun, though.
        • alexforcefive, on 03/28/2008, -1/+1Crits don't affect buildings. You'd have to hope to get some kinda splash damage on the engineer. Which, admittedly, would be easier if you had three or four crits to work with. But ***** it, what's a soldier trying to take out a sentry farm for anyway?
    • mustang460, on 03/27/2008, -0/+3it will work with crits off just like the sniper headshots

      turning crits off turns off the random chance to get crits nothing more
    • thrillhouse900, on 03/28/2008, -2/+1crits are for noobs
  • Shogi, on 03/27/2008, -3/+4710 seconds of crit on a soldier is going to be the new bane of engineers.

    And everyone in general.
    • jlbarber, on 03/27/2008, -0/+8IMO, everything will still be balanced. Yes it will suck, but 4 shots then reloading? For a soilder it's more like 5 seconds of crits.

      • Shogi, on 03/27/2008, -0/+2True, but utter devastation nonetheless.
      • foofightrs777, on 03/27/2008, -0/+3With a soldier you could then just switch to the shotgun. With area fire and crit bullets its gonna be great for finishing off those who were just far enough to not die from the rocket splash.

        And anyway you could easily get 5 rockets off in that time, maybe 6.
      • sgtpppr, on 03/27/2008, -0/+34 crit rockets? If you have any aim at all that will be like the apocalypse for whatever you are aiming at. Blue rockets should give anyone of any class nightmares.
        • kodek, on 03/28/2008, -0/+2Not anyone. The blue team doesn't have anything to worry about :)
    • DreKor, on 03/27/2008, -0/+14Until they get sniped and die. Checks and balances FTW.
      • Shade00a00, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1Not all medics need to have this. Imagine an ubered demoman on 10 second crits. All the stickies he places in that period crit.
    • unearth, on 03/27/2008, -3/+6Demo would definitely be the best choice for crit uber.

      And could you be ubered while you have the crit bonus, too? *drools*
      • unearth, on 03/27/2008, -0/+5True statement and a valid question. Thanks for the bury, retards.

        Is it possible to have one medic uber you, and the other one apply the crit bonus at the same time?
    • psg188, on 03/27/2008, -3/+9Bane of engineers? Why them specifically. Crits don't do more damage to buildings.
    • lava, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1Personally, I want uber snipers or uber engineers to be good for something.

      But I'm guessing the 10 second crit means that you're not invulnerable? If that's the case engineers don't have much to worry about.
      • Gir53457, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1Rapid building for engineers? Autosniper?
    • Klarth, on 03/27/2008, -9/+3***** CRIT RAWKETS. I play on servers without crits whenever I can.
      • Neiby, on 03/28/2008, -0/+2My clan has one no-crit server and I do enjoy playing it from time to time. It shifts the balance of the game a bit, but it makes it more predictable.
    • cannonball, on 03/31/2008, -0/+110 seconds of critical sapping could even be worse...
  • strafefire, on 03/27/2008, -21/+7When is the Xbox 360 and PS3 going to get some love, valve?
    • Nobiting, on 03/27/2008, -2/+27When pigs fly. PC gaming ftw
    • BrandonMills, on 03/27/2008, -1/+8When Microsoft lets Valve use Steam on the Xbox 360.

      So yes, as the previous post stated, when pigs fly. Valve has a little more invested in PC gaming. ( aka Steam. )
    • Braingoo, on 03/27/2008, -3/+4HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
      sorry...
      Not
      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
    • Whackly, on 03/27/2008, -2/+5360 player is sad :(
    • bearcat8543, on 03/27/2008, -3/+8Never. You made your first error when you bought a fps for a console. Epic fail.
      • sacr3dc0w, on 03/27/2008, -3/+3The only failure is morons who pay so much for a PC only to have it become outdated 2 years later.
        • newnie, on 03/27/2008, -2/+2lulz, learn to build a computer
          building a gaming pc is not expensive $400 every 5ish years...cmon now, that's not bad
          • sacr3dc0w, on 03/27/2008, -3/+2Unlike your spelling abilities, I can build a computer quite fine and for a good budget. What I'm not fine with is the constant upgrades of video cards if I want to run a game in something more than low/medium as they come along. Maybe you like playing games that look like they belong on the XBOX/PS2 with such pixelation, but I'm not.

            Do digg a favor, stop posting comments from your elementary school library.
        • Nerolus, on 03/28/2008, -2/+2KEEP CRYING BABY.
          WAHHHH
          WAHHHHH
          WHO SEND ALL THESE BABIES TO FIGHT?
        • valkyries, on 03/29/2008, -0/+1and new consoles come out how often?
  • YouRookies, on 03/27/2008, -0/+68You hear that DLC whores! FREE! Thank you Valve!
  • BrandonMills, on 03/27/2008, -1/+103Valve alone is a pretty darned good reason for owning a gaming PC.
  • YouRookies, on 03/27/2008, -0/+4From IGN's interview:
    IGN: Will the console versions ever see these updates? If not, why? If so, when?
    Robin Walker: We're still trying to figure that out. Right now we're working on a map pack that we hope will contain Goldrush and the rest of the maps we've shipped to the PC customers so far.
    • BrandonMills, on 03/27/2008, -6/+5Console gamers are sure to get a premium ( $$$ ) experience.

      That's the bargain with the devil you make when you purchase a console, though. You save a little money now, and constantly pay more as time goes on.
      • Sparkster185, on 03/27/2008, -10/+3As opposed to having to upgrade your PC every two years.
        • Fizban140, on 03/27/2008, -0/+4I made my computer almost four years ago, I upgraded it once and spent about $300 and I can run TF2 on medium-high settings. In all I spent about $1500 on my computer, including all upgrades.
        • Mier, on 03/27/2008, -2/+5lol...more like 5 years and that's if you want to keep your 16x12. Otherwise you can drag it out to 7. I sat on my rig for a long time and now that I have an SLI mobo it can probably go further since I can just add a second card of the same type.

          You console guys really need to get some new arguments cause these are more worn out than your mom.
  • jlbarber, on 03/27/2008, -1/+41Who's excited to see what upgrades engineers will get?? Maybe a sentry that shoots pies...
    • swanny89, on 03/27/2008, -0/+12I'm kind of hoping maybe different fire modes for sentrys, i.e. a "cannon" type sentry with huge damage but low fire rate vs. a flak cannon with small, area-of-effect damage.
    • SpectralSounds, on 03/27/2008, -0/+26Mmmm....... pie cannon. OM NOM NOM
      • ZombieKiss, on 03/27/2008, -1/+6"Eat it fattie!"
        • ZombieKiss, on 03/27/2008, -2/+1oh come on guys, thats what the scout says when he kills a heavy and thus is relevant to the OM NOM NOM.. /sad face
          • ehal256, on 03/27/2008, -1/+0hehe man i love the scout. "The freakin hardhat's a spy!"
    • unamas, on 03/27/2008, -0/+7multiple lvl 1 sentry guns?
    • gbro, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1Be able to take remote control of a sentry.
    • thrillhouse900, on 03/28/2008, -0/+3Spy's sappin mah....PIES?!
    • TenebrousX, on 03/28/2008, -0/+2im hoping for 2-way teleports
  • Dunhamzzz, on 03/27/2008, -2/+1About time.
  • swrostmore, on 03/27/2008, -2/+77The week of April 20? You have to hand it to Valve, they know their audience.
    • SpeshulEd, on 03/27/2008, -11/+6ZOMG 420 ROFLAFSHDAAJLKFSA
    • misfit410, on 03/27/2008, -8/+10They celebrate Hitlers birthday?
    • snotrokit, on 03/27/2008, -1/+6I was thinking tax day relief, but daaaaamn now THAT is good (cough cough) stuff
    • endlessoul, on 03/27/2008, -2/+3I was thinking more along the lines of GTA4's release date.
    • allfatherblack, on 03/27/2008, -1/+2Hahha nice catch.
    • cathl, on 03/27/2008, -1/+8The new map should have been Greenhouse instead of Goldrush.
    • Morphinity, on 03/27/2008, -1/+9If you know anything about Valve, expect it about a year from then. :P
    • bearcat8543, on 03/27/2008, -0/+4***** yeh, what better way to celebrate 420 than a full day of new achievements, goldrush, and mass j's to the face?
  • elliotys, on 03/27/2008, -7/+21I know Im a fag cause I play this on the 360 (I can't afford a PC), but will they please apply these updates to xbox live.
    • BrandonMills, on 03/27/2008, -2/+1As soon as Microsoft hurries with it's Halo 3 PC plans.

      which is to say, whenever...sometime...maybe...
    • RetlawST, on 03/27/2008, -0/+4Microsoft has been sitting on their hands about free content release over live. Valve has been pushing for free updates of their games, but MS doesn't seem to like the idea of giving gamers something for free. Or something.
    • bizarrorollins, on 03/27/2008, -0/+2You don't need a super powerful gaming pc to play TF2. Its one of the reasons that I invested in fixing up my brothers 4 year old desktop. It runs the game well enough with parts that have no chance of playing any of the newest games.
    • thrillhouse900, on 03/28/2008, -0/+1Get out your credit card
    • jt18, on 03/28/2008, -0/+1If you can afford a 360, you can afford pc. example http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/hot-deals/818888/
      • fishbert, on 04/17/2008, -0/+1but who says you can afford a 360 *and* a PC?
  • CYG101, on 03/27/2008, -6/+12Spy Sappin' my sentry
  • f4nt0m4s, on 03/27/2008, -0/+28I'm pretty pumped for these official releases, I just hope all the new added weapons don't ruin the pretty much perfect gameplay. TF2 has been getting a ton of custom maps from the community, and a lot of them have kicked major ass. I just want to see an official remake of the classic TFC maps Badlands and Rock2...and by remake, I mean a few graphic touch-ups. Regardless, TF2 is hands down the best multiplayer game to come out since the original Counter-Strike, at least for us PC gamers.
    • swrostmore, on 03/27/2008, -0/+17Badlands has already been released by Valve.
      • f4nt0m4s, on 03/27/2008, -0/+4Yes sir, it indeed has been! I've actually played it...but I want too see Badlands classic...it's out there, someone was making it before Valve released the new official Badlands.
        • Hotrox, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1I actually managed to find a server running Badlands classic and it's every bit as fun as the previous incarnation. The only downside I can think of is that it seems a little too easy to get up the side ramps at the middle point.
    • foofightrs777, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1Yeah, these new powers throwing off the game balance do bother me. The last thing demomen need is another power lol.
  • bjarkebech, on 03/27/2008, -0/+4Actually a definite update. Valve can lead the way to proper free DLC!
  • moon118, on 03/27/2008, -17/+2bring back the nades!
  • nascapper, on 03/27/2008, -4/+1omg i cant wait to play, its gunna rock. a definate mutliplayer icon
  • pickles46, on 03/27/2008, -6/+2As long as they stop nerfing all the classes and get rid of the damn custom servers tab, im ok with the update.
    • allfatherblack, on 03/27/2008, -3/+5I really dont want to be a prick herel I dont. But nerfing is what ignorant people call "game balancing". Its not about you, figurative douchbag. Its about everyone having an equal chance to smoke bitches. And its not like they only modified YOUR game. Like they jumped on and said "Hey lets reduce the crit rate for Pickle46 and Pickles46 ALONE." No, they did it to everyone. You shouldnt whine and bitch about what was before; you should literally forget about it because whatever it was is clearly a FLAW in the game and was fixed accordingly. Had the devs the time to perfect the game before it was released you never would have even KNOWN anything had gotten.... "nerfed." Anyway, I think Ill close this up with; "The reason so many people are quick to bitch about "nerfing" is because theres all ready so much nerf in their ***** skulls that they cant stand to have any more in their lives." Shut up, and good night.
  • h0lyavenger, on 03/27/2008, -1/+10An uber that make a soldier crit for 10 seconds straight? That's more than enough time for the soldier to unload 7~8 rockets, and at the hands of a good player wipe out most of the other team especially when used against red on dust bowl.

    I'm actually more interested in what unlockable items they are planning for engineers. I know I'm not the only one who is getting bored with the usual turret/dispenser setup when I camp my last point.
    • psg188, on 03/27/2008, -1/+6It won't be as useful for the attacking team, sentries can still mow down those people. A soldier can't kill a sentry that's being constantly repaired. Crits don't do extra damage to buildings.
      • evilpenguin81, on 03/27/2008, -1/+9Yeah, but the splash damage will almost instantly destroy the engie frantically trying to keep the building alive.
    • bearcat8543, on 03/27/2008, -0/+11You watch: the engineer will be the last to be updated.
    • gbro, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1I'd like engies to have a "snap-to-grid" option for building stuff. To often I see engineers on my team spend way too long placing a sentry and end up getting ganked before its down.
    • looksliketrent, on 03/29/2008, -0/+1You do realize a medic and his partner are easily seperated. Just have a soldier on your team blow him away from whoever his gun is on.
  • seanmanseanman, on 03/27/2008, -1/+9god I love valve
  • mizike, on 03/27/2008, -9/+4nerf demoman plz..... a single sticky is generally a one hit kill, they either need to scale the damage down or place a longer delay before they can be triggered.... it's annoying as hell to go after a demoman and have them turn around and lob a single sticky at you killing you instantly.... *****, none of the demos on the servers I play on even use the regular grenade gun anymore....why would they when stickies are way overpowered?
    • Somedude2137, on 03/27/2008, -1/+3a single crit one yes.... but one normal generally does NOT kill instantly.... unless ur a spy, scout, engie
    • swrostmore, on 03/27/2008, -0/+12Sticky bombs need the ability to stick to enemies without exploding.
      • giid, on 03/27/2008, -0/+12And stick to teammates too, for a good suicide run for Allah.
    • totaljerkface, on 03/27/2008, -0/+3no way they just recently limited the demo's ammo supply to less than half of what it was. one lone sticky won't kill anyone if it's not crit
    • Matt2k, on 03/27/2008, -0/+2Even though it's not in slot #1, stickies are the demo man's primary weapon. Kind of like the shotgun isn't the engineer's primary weapon or the needle gun, the medic's. Also, it's probably not going to be a one-hit kill. Two, yeah, if they're dead-on. There's some nice damage charts floating around
      http://www.flamingbaby.com/gaming/tips-and-tricks/ ...
    • Asheis, on 03/27/2008, -0/+2Yeah, my experience has been that demos with stickies ARE annoying, but generally only able to kill with one hit if you're low on HP, or playing a class with low HP.
      The real thing they need to nerf about the demo is that damn bottle. They need to lower the amount of humiliation that it causes when you are repeatedly bottled to death.
    • mercano, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1Demos already got nerfed when they took away most of his ammo. I think you only get four grenade reloads and three sticky. (Also, why can you only load four grenades into the grenade launcher when the model of the weapon has six chambers?)
      • Asheis, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1ha! I didn't even think about that... the manufacturers of the grenade gun must have sold valve a seriously large shipment of defective grenade launchers.
        I think the nerf was called for.. They didn't decrease damage, right? just the ammo amounts?
      • giid, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1With the XBox 360 version you can load 6 grenades. I think it was reduced to cut down a bit on spam.
        • Asheis, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1That does make sense. Sometimes demos just annoy the hell out of me. It really feels they are just random-killers. Of course there are some people who play demos with real skill, but it doesn't take much skill to lob 50 grenades in a corridor, and get three kills.
          • macweirdo42, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1Only if you're playing against idiots who'll just rush out into a hail of grenade fire. Yeah, there's an element of randomness, but that's the whole point of the demoman class - suppression. Besides, the demoman is totally boned at close range.
  • allfatherblack, on 03/27/2008, -10/+1I know they have because theyre Valve, but have they considered how implementing class specific weapons one at a time might ruin the nigh perfect balance in that game? But I couldnt be more excited. TF2 is the best multiplayer FPS there is (youre welcome to your opinion but I will think youre wrong until its topped) and sweet holy god the new game type ACTUALLY sounds worth playing. Look like Ill be back to stabbing you bitches. Catch me online with the same moniker, and chances are I will be smoking your ass. What can I say? Im pathetically good at this game.
  • Somedude2137, on 03/27/2008, -4/+8PUT DISPENSER HERE!!!!
  • RedViper1999, on 03/27/2008, -3/+7When I toured Valve in February they actually let me play test this. Gold Rush is very fun.
    • zephyr42, on 03/27/2008, -0/+12pics or it didn't happen.
      • RedViper1999, on 03/27/2008, -0/+8I have pictures of valve but not of the game so I lose.
        • zephyr42, on 03/28/2008, -0/+6pics in valve would be good enough for me
  • Shakermaker, on 03/27/2008, -15/+1Whatever - I'll still be playing CoD4
  • zzzpoohzzz, on 03/27/2008, -1/+1this will finally get people to actually want to be a medic...
    would 2 medics be able to uber the same person at the same time? one for the crit and one for the invuln? because i doubt they would put crit/invuln together, that would just be absurd
    • seanmanseanman, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1I don't see why people DONT want to be a medic. The syringe gun can do up to 400 damage in a clip, is great for taking out sentries/engies from range. The bonesaw is ridic. Second fastest class in the game, and HEALS people. So many fun reasons to play a medic.
      • diggduggDOOM, on 03/27/2008, -0/+0I love playing the Medic. That syringe is a very quiet weapon, too.
      • ehal256, on 03/27/2008, -0/+0Actually, I love playing a medic as my secondary class (second to Scout), contrary to popular belief the syringe gun, and the bone saw, together are quite a potent threat ^^.
      • zzzpoohzzz, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1i agree, i just started playing medic more and more recently... its my 2nd most played class, next to the demo
      • atbnet, on 03/27/2008, -2/+1I hate the syringe gun, it needs a shotgun like the old medic.
  • diggduggDOOM, on 03/27/2008, -1/+17BONK!

    I broke your stupid crap, moron!
  • NateTheApe21, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1digg killed Shack?
    • neflar1, on 03/27/2008, -0/+0I really doubt that digg caused it. Shack has more bandwidth than digg...

      probably bad timing
  • ISCHmail, on 03/27/2008, -1/+1Finally!!!.. Valve has only been promising this update since December
  • Panda200x, on 03/27/2008, -2/+1April 20th be my birthday :D Good timing
  • kevman459, on 03/27/2008, -0/+0Is there a mirror to the story link? I'm getting a 403 forbidden error for the link and even shacknews.com
  • Heavy, on 03/27/2008, -2/+7"unlockable weapons" .. the beginning of the end.
  • Legoman513, on 03/27/2008, -1/+1So I guess April 20th 2009 isn't that far away... ;-)
  • xerosawyer, on 03/27/2008, -9/+1q3>tf2
  • captmorgan555, on 03/27/2008, -0/+5mirro http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:UlWKG8ju-DQJ: ...
  • Slickjim, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1Yeah, I can't get to it either. Mirror anybody?
  • captmorgan555, on 03/27/2008, -0/+4also info here: http://uk.pc.ign.com/articles/861/861991p1.html?RS ...
  • atbnet, on 03/27/2008, -1/+1Does anyone remember the TFC map Nuclear? I remember playing it on a server hosted at Microsoft. Some claimed Bill Gates played there, but who knows.

    I've only had TF2 for a month now, but they killed Well for me. If you were a good sniper you loved Well because it had a lot of great sniping points. It was a great long map, now it just sucks. I also don't like how they changed Dustbowl. I rather have one person carry the flag than having to stand on the damn point forever.
  • SUPERCHIMP, on 03/27/2008, -2/+4I don't know why so many people whine about soldiers and crits. They are an assault class, they should be able to assault and be able to kill light classes in straight up battles. I think the balance of TFC is great as it is. Learn how to play the game an you can be effective with any class. I have regularly finished on the top with Medic, Engineer, HW Guy and Soldier. I don't play spy and scout much but I've seen spies do it. I like to play medic and I will fight any class and regularly beat any class except HW guy with the needle gun and bone saw. In the end, the game is about winning and all classes are apart of that.

    Lack skills to do these things? Play another game. Don't complain until they ruin a good game.
  • DecayingMadness, on 03/27/2008, -1/+5this map is awesome I played it on Valentines day when I got to visit Valve since I emailed Gabe a picture of a pinata I made.
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/23475058@N08/22554152 ...
  • dmjarrington, on 03/28/2008, -0/+5OMG A REASON TO LIVE
  • rmeddy, on 03/28/2008, -0/+2Hey KnuckleHead ,I'm Talkiing to you!!!
  • CommissarVlad, on 04/15/2008, -0/+1Nice to see that DOD:S is still lost and forgotten, though dying of a needed update for quite a few issues.
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