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- Whatasillyhat, on 05/15/2009, -0/+341Update: Documents for the case have appeared online, revealing that, among other things, Take-Two is demanding a copy of the Duke Nukem Forever source code.
YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! - jmdwinter, on 05/15/2009, -3/+315Those lawyers are gonna kick ass and chew bubblegum...
- AZRoboto, on 05/15/2009, -6/+171Honestly, 3D Realms deserves it. I'd like to compare DNF to Chinese Democracy, but Chinese Democracy actually came out...
- magnus3d, on 05/15/2009, -1/+164And they're all out of gum.
- daeyeth, on 05/15/2009, -12/+143Poor souls...they actually expected it to be released huh. Apparently the 10 years in waiting didn't convince them and it took 3DRealms going under for them to finally get it. How come these idiots get to sue them and we don't?!
Seriously tho, Take-Two are some smart snakes. These guys knew Forever wasn't coming out and they were waiting to sue....they weren't even paying the development costs of the game. - daschupa, on 05/15/2009, -4/+116Update: The source code has been put up online. I copied it all:
#ifndef __I_SYSTEM__
#define __I_SYSTEM__
//ooookay, totally gonna work on this today
// ( * ) ( * ) -boobies!
//so bored!
//8=========> hehehe
//man, this crap is booooooring!
//did you see that Seinfield finale? Suuuuuuckage!
//----------------------------------------------------------------------------- end - inactive, on 05/15/2009, -1/+102they paid $12 million for publishing rights. That's no chump change for a single title.
- thefezman, on 05/15/2009, -0/+90No. The source code is CURSED. Or something.
- rodon, on 05/15/2009, -0/+88yeah so Valve can take another 5 years or more to make something out of it. :P
Don't get me wrong. Valve is a great developer, but they just take their sweet, sweet time. - inactive, on 05/15/2009, -1/+75@minorthreat.. ENGLISH MOTHER ***** DO YOU SPEAK IT?
- directedition, on 05/15/2009, -8/+76"of the Duke Nukem Forever source code --- and give it to Valve."
- inactive, on 05/15/2009, -3/+71So, 3D Realms took $12 million from Take-Two so they could sit around stoned playing WoW all day?
- i4mt3hwin, on 05/15/2009, -0/+63They could be suing just to gain ownership of the IP, if they got that and maybe the source, couldn't they complete it?
- prammy, on 05/15/2009, -0/+62Here is what 3D realms has done so far:
#include <iostream>
using namespace std;
int main()
{
// should complete this soon ... :-(
cout << "Welcome to Duke Nukem Forever!" << endl;
return 0;
} - z00k, on 05/15/2009, -1/+63 Balls of Steel
- Rhino2, on 05/15/2009, -0/+58No, Take Two DID try to sue them earlier. A few times actucally. The way the agreement was worded the courts said "The game is still in active development, therefore you can't sue". Take Two reluctantly had no other choice but to wait.
That is why 3D Releams didn't cancel it (even though they wanted to). Because they would of been sued to heaven and back. Their loop hole (due to the legalize wording) was the "nah nada, you can't touch us; we are still "developing" this game". That has held up in court till now. Now they are filing another suit because the game isn't in active development any longer. - DrProfessional, on 05/15/2009, -0/+55Smart enough to invest 12 million dollars they will probably never see since 3DRealms is bankrupt?
- ProtocolDroid, on 05/15/2009, -0/+51Take-Two previously offered 3D Realms $30 million for all the rights to Duke Nukem. Now they may get what they want for less than half of that, or at least the source code.
- DrProfessional, on 05/15/2009, -0/+42He can now focus all his attention on Ass-kicking, no more meddlesome gumchewing to muck up the works.
- ZombieSociety, on 05/15/2009, -1/+42I'd gladly take $12 to sit around stoned playing WoW all day.
- Rebochan, on 05/15/2009, -0/+40Worst $12 million dollars ever spent. They must have thought they could get the IP out of it at the very least. But now? Nothing.
- inactive, on 05/15/2009, -0/+39BALLS BALLS BALLS BALLS BALLS BALLS BALLS OF STEEEEEEEEL
- robertisaar, on 05/15/2009, -3/+38Guns N Roses- Chinese Democracy, it was/is ***** huge.
- ProtocolDroid, on 05/15/2009, -2/+36Those lawyers are gonna kick some ass and snort coke off of a hooker...
- DavidTurnbull, on 05/15/2009, -0/+32Better than we could've expected.
- mctom987, on 05/15/2009, -0/+32This is Duke Nukem Forever. Not Duke Nukem 2009. We still have forever to wait.
- tnoy, on 05/15/2009, -0/+32Take-Two does not own the IP.
They only purchased the publishing rights to the game. - ghostofpanty, on 05/15/2009, -3/+34Forever? For Ever Ever? I'm sorry Ms. Jackson, Duke is not for real
- fungusmonkey, on 05/15/2009, -1/+31Those lawyers must have testicles of a certain hardened metal alloy consisting mainly of iron forged with carbon.
- NathanielJ, on 05/15/2009, -0/+30And they're all out of coke and hookers.
- minorthreat, on 05/16/2009, -4/+34i swear to god he edited it... but whatever I just broke my -digg record.. woot
- demonemo, on 05/15/2009, -0/+27Great...it'll take another 12 years to sort out the lawsuit.
- ProfessorLX, on 05/15/2009, -0/+26unfortunately 3drealms typed in DNKROZ right before bankruptcy
- directedition, on 05/15/2009, -0/+26"They could just release it AS Episode 3. Who would know?"
When Alyx Vance shows up in a bikini and the rebel compound is populated with strippers, they'll figure it out. - inactive, on 05/15/2009, -1/+25according to one ex-developer, DNF was similar to a ponzi scheme. But the article was so bizarre I couldn't tell if he was for real or not.
- Ramble, on 05/15/2009, -0/+24Not really - the DNF release is a running joke as is this year being the year of Linux - stated every year.
- specter19, on 05/15/2009, -8/+29This game has haunted us for 12 years, ENOUGH ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!
- inactive, on 05/15/2009, -1/+21The guys who took 12 years to develop it, would you hire them?
- inactive, on 05/15/2009, -5/+25Lets not forget that 3DR never saw a penny of the 12 million take two gave to infogram for development. I really dont give a ***** about the lawsuit, I just want duke to be released and the IP continued in good hands. Good hands like Valve or bioware.
- mustang460, on 05/15/2009, -1/+20Take two paid infogamer the 12 million , 3drealms never saw a dime.
- guybrush3000, on 05/15/2009, -1/+20Wierd, you're getting dugg down. People must think you're being literal
- directedition, on 05/15/2009, -0/+17I'm not sure it would matter if it was. If I understand correctly they burned their servers and started from scratch at least four times.
- inactive, on 05/15/2009, -4/+21any company other than 3D Realms that touches this thing is going to completely destroy it.
It has taken forever, but looking at the demos, it's pretty obvious why. This was the next Duke3d. It wasn't just the use of the character Duke or the name. It was all the elements that made Duke3d a great game, such as the attitude, the environment, the weapons, the humor, the pop-references and the self-references.
In Duke3d there was a beginning level where you walked into a bar and you could actually play pool. On the TV was OJ Simpson, forever running from the cops. Then you walk to the back and there is a strip club where you can tip the girls or shoot them. There has never been that kind of awesome in a FPS since then. - failtrain, on 05/15/2009, -1/+18Not much use that would be. DNF uses UE3. The code would need to be rewritten from scratch for Source engine.
- magnus3d, on 05/15/2009, -3/+20Id prefer to compare it to me being laid. Not gonna happen, Never gonna happen, no matter how much money I pay.
- inactive, on 05/15/2009, -3/+19What?! That came out of nowhere.
- jonnyfatman, on 05/15/2009, -2/+17DNF = Duke Nukem Forever = Did Not Finish
The clue was in the title all along. - KaivenTor, on 05/15/2009, -2/+16Thing is, 3D Realms had 12 years. 12 years even if self-funded, they should have made something, a game, a demo level, something. Was everyone just working on this on the weekends? Also, with the release of various platforms like the Source engine or even Unreal's graphics engine, that could have cut their dev time down so that could focus on models, environment, gameplay, story, etc.
I hope Take-Two gets this and does something with it, heck, maybe they'll even hire one some of the old developers to help out a new team finish this thing. - soundsofreason, on 05/15/2009, -0/+14Dugg for Outkast
- dave122, on 05/15/2009, -1/+15DNF by valve would be awesome.
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