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- ExRe, on 05/06/2008, -13/+446How many reasons do they need to give us to stop purchasing games? It's already tempting enough with having it available for free, and now they try to screw the legitimate customers over?
That's practically like them telling me they don't want to me to purchase it. - Hoov, on 05/06/2008, -11/+399Part of the reason for owning Mass Effect is it's an OFFLINE GAME GOD DAMN IT.
- wisedude, on 05/06/2008, -10/+269This was the first game in a while where I actually WANTED to give EA my money. Not any more if this is true..... I'll just wait for a cracked copy, ***** you eA
- bumcheekcity, on 05/06/2008, -7/+244In other news: Spore and Mass Effect to be the most pirated games in history.
- nailPuppy, on 05/06/2008, -4/+190Well, at least we know that piracy groups won't be stopped by this. I hate when companies make legit customers jump through hoops when people determined to break their security methods won't give a damn.
- TehChemist, on 05/06/2008, -3/+187I was totally hyped for SPORE, but now not so much.
how long until they require blood samples every day to verify you were the one who bought the game? - mrfreeziexp, on 05/06/2008, -4/+167Can't they see that they can't stop the pirates? They will get around this, the only thing it'll stop is legit buyers from playing/buying. Piracy will always be an issue on the PC and if you don't like it, don't make a PC game.
- KnightMareInc, on 05/06/2008, -2/+160Its amazing that people who pirate games get a better experience
- Hydroxyl, on 05/06/2008, -3/+155So if I activate it once, and I disconnect internet, or lose internet, I'm going to lose my ability to play my game I legally bought?
What the *****.
But it doesn't even matter if it has to phone home period. Someone WILL figure out a way around it. For every person creating the security software, there's 10 trying to find loopholes.
You're just losing potential buyers by doing this. - melkore, on 05/06/2008, -4/+135-1 Sale here. I bought Mass Effect on 360 and I was looking forward to Spore but not after this. Phone home once to activate then let it stay activated.
If it comes to Steam I'll think about it because it only phones home to activate once. - chukd, on 05/06/2008, -2/+116You are exactly right. My job requires me to be out in the ocean for months at a time with no internet. During my free time, I like to play games on my laptop. I was looking forward to Spore, but with this requirement it is impossible for me to play. DMCA says I can't make copies of DVD's to watch while out at sea. I can't play online games. Why are you making it harder for non-pirating military people to enjoy your products?
- Aokitsune, on 05/06/2008, -3/+100What the hell?
Schemes like this really aren't going to do anything but annoy legitimate customers. The simple fact is that there will always be ways to get software-music-movies illicitly. End of story. Piracy will eventually become as big a problem on consoles as anything else- all it takes is time and there will develop a method. Copy-protection hasn't worked yet- anything that can be done can be undone or worked around. The saying goes "Locks only keep honest men honest" for a reason.
The inconveniences contrived to stop hackers are no more than a nuisance to those of us that feel that developers should be amply rewarded for a job well done. - kextype, on 05/06/2008, -3/+98they turned a must buy into a must crack
- chrispeters, on 05/06/2008, -5/+84I had every intention of buying Spore, but after reading this ***** 'em. If they want to treat me like a criminal, I'll act like one.
- Kakaze, on 05/06/2008, -1/+79DRM only serves to punish the legitimate customer by requiring them to go through draconian activation schemes, put up with needing to activate whenever they change hardware in their computers, put up with activation failure, and in the case of ongoing validation, what happens if the activation server goes offline or you're not able to connect to the internet?
Meanwhile, the people who pirate the games only have to install the game, crack it, and they're up and running without having to make any phone calls or wait for activation to kick in. The simple fact of the matter is that DRM has NEVER stopped piracy and most DRM schemes are cracked before they're even made public or within the first few days.
So, yeah, those thousands of pirates are going to be playing the game while you're on hold with techsupport because you just put in a new video card and the game won't run now because it thinks it's on a new computer. - DeathJux, on 05/06/2008, -6/+82Exactly! I was considering purchasing it, but this will likely drive me to piracy. Why is it so difficult for companies to realize that adding DRM significantly lessens the appeal to nerds, whom, I presume, is their primary demographic? They need to hire some young blood as consultants or something.
Normals will only get pissed off at DRM when something goes wrong and they can't play the game because it's been deemed "pirated" or whatever. - gritta, on 05/06/2008, -3/+75Some insanely skilled scene group will just make a binary patch to remove the validation process altogether. End result being that legitmate customers get ***** over and piracy is not curtailed.
- Spl1nter, on 05/06/2008, -3/+73This is the biggest ***** ***** I have heard of for copyright protection. Where about if I want to play the game on a PC that isnt connected to the internet, This is just stupid. This is an inconvenience to everyone.and makes me rather not buy the game. Really people have to look at what Stardock is doing a.k.a Sins of a Solar Empire where you do not even need to enter a cd key in unless you want to download the patches and extra content that comes with the game,
Hell the game will be ***** cracked in two days. They are just losing out on possible sales. Pure Stupidity. - HydrogenOxide, on 05/06/2008, -4/+73Headline from 2029
"GAMERS OUTRAGED AS EA REQUIRES DAILY RETINA SCANS AS REGISTERED WITH UNIQUE 19,000 CHARACTER SERIAL ON THEIR TELESERVER DATABASE" 129546 diggs, Submitted by SonOfBabyMan, Diggnation episode number 1,000 as reported on by Alex Rose and Kevin Albrecht. - chukd, on 05/06/2008, -1/+59They just lost my business. I am a submariner and while on the sub, there is no internet access. If I can't use the game in my free time while out in the ocean, then they will not get my money.
- Blandyman, on 05/07/2008, -1/+57This is still SecuROM, though, so don't worry about your Mass Effect. The crackers out there will get rid of that check within days, if not on zero day with an advance copy, and it'll be the same as any other game.
Best part of cracking it? No waiting for it to load on those days when it decides to phone home. It'll just start up! YAY, CRACK(S)! - SonnyW, on 05/06/2008, -3/+58This is exactly the same crap that made me steer clear of bioshock. It's insane how they think making legitimate copies of the game more of a hassle than pirated versions will somehow make more people buy rather than pirate.
- nogami, on 05/06/2008, -0/+52Wierd. They are actually inconveniencing people who purchase their game more than the pirates. Hmm... what should I do - buy the game and have it phone home every 10 days or disable itself, or just wait for a warez group to completely bypass all of their protection and release it... Hmm...
Seems a shame really... I like to support developers... But I don't like to get screwed by them. - tavisjohn, on 05/07/2008, -2/+51No I speak with my dollars. They want to monitor me, than I will not give them my cash!
Besides I have a tendancy to play games years (Even decades) after they are released. So in 15 years they may have already turned off the server that the game contacts. So my legal game will no longer work. - Tazmaster, on 05/06/2008, -3/+49This is unfortunate. I really was planning on spending money on Spore. I'll just download the torrent when it comes out, I guess.
I don't know who made the decision to use such silly protection on the game, but I will not support it by buying it. - cnot3, on 05/06/2008, -3/+49Yarrr, piracy will always win. EA is the new British Empire.
- jayzeus, on 05/06/2008, -1/+46And that's going to stop piracy HOW? I'll give them 2 days before they'll come up with a crack. They should just drop the whole scheme. It annoys legal users, and makes no difference to pirates. Pffft...
- DracoFlameus, on 05/06/2008, -3/+48Why... why Spore... any other game... but not Spore goddammit... I really wanted to buy that game... like no other before... and now this mess... *sigh*
- jer2eydevil88, on 05/06/2008, -2/+46I see the launch of spore being somewhat less successful than they had hoped... Maybe they should take some notes from the launch of Sins of a Solar Empires instead of trying to ignore it...
- joltcola, on 05/06/2008, -1/+44this is why we cant have nice things
- DracoFlameus, on 05/06/2008, -1/+44every ten days... good thing that internet connections are granted everywhere and technical difficulties just something from the past. Everything will just work out until the company takes the verification server offline... which will of course neverrrr happen... right.
- shakin, on 05/07/2008, -2/+44I bet you'll be inconvenienced by the "copy protection" after they shut down the validation servers in a few years and you can't play the game anymore. ***** Mass Effect and ***** Spore (I was really looking forward to Spore, too). If these companies are so determined to screw up my playing experience then I will be equally determined not to buy their software.
As usual, software pirates will end up with a better product than people who paid for the game. Pirates will never have to worry about copy protection. - jer2eydevil88, on 05/06/2008, -1/+42Actually games can set their own copy protection outside of steam when they are sold on there. Bioshock is the perfect example of that added protection going horribly wrong.
- Skooma714, on 05/06/2008, -2/+42They are going to release Spore?
They tried this with Bioshock, did it work? Nope. - bokep, on 05/06/2008, -1/+40Whatever... someone's gonna figure out a workaround within a couple hours of release and then it's business as usual.
I wonder how much these game developers pay for SecureROM. They really think this will actually encourage pirates to buy games? - SharkyTech, on 05/07/2008, -0/+38@zeebo
That's different, that would take time and a large amount of money to port to mac or linux. Removing this DRM would take zero, and not using it in the first place would save them money. - Qeveren, on 05/06/2008, -1/+39Actually, they'll screw it up like they always do, inconveniencing a lot of honest gamers, and the pirates will have it cracked before it's even released. I'm not sure why they bother.
- FreDre, on 05/06/2008, -1/+39What's up with the Far Cry 2 thumbnail?
Regarding the online validation, don't worry kids, there are always cracks. Some companies never learn.... - daschupa, on 05/06/2008, -1/+38Pfft, hackers won't get by this. They aren't smart, they are idiots. We put it on a DVD, which means you can't edit it.
- EA Management - sonicm, on 05/06/2008, -1/+37What's ironic is, it may even encourage piracy. If it's really that hard to crack, I can see different pirate groups competing to crack it first in order to gain popularity and whatnot.
- gothicform, on 05/06/2008, -1/+36I bought the original Call of Duty a little while after it came out to find that the cdkey didn't work properly so I couldn't join online games. The reason? Well someone else had used a keygen and already gotten my key! I had to take the game back to the shop and get another copy with a fresh key. Stuff like this doesn't work because it catches out the innocent consumers who bought the game and had some warez user just so happen to come up with the same key in the keygen. There's only so many valid keys and with millions of sales the chances of this happening, although small, add up to thousands of legal purchasers having their access cut off. Whats even more outrageous is that they want to check every 10 days and then cut off the game anyway, even if its legal! I guess it's just better to pirate than put up with this self defeating crap games programmers foist on us.
- ExRe, on 05/06/2008, -1/+35No, it does not stop pirates. Every DRM system has been cracked (AFAIK), most games are cracked within a week of it's release.
DRM only harms those who legitimately purchase the game, pirates just have to wait maybe a week or two after it is released to get it. - Kakaze, on 05/06/2008, -2/+36They have to make a long distance call to India every 10 days that requires a minimum of 30 minutes on hold before Ron (aka Rohit Ramakrishnashivapetilan) finally picks up and asks them to recite a randomly generated 50 character alphanumeric so he can generate them a 200 character activation key which they have to type in perfectly the first time or a new 50 character key is created and the whole thing starts over again. Oh, and it's case sensitive too.
- SubjectiveC, on 05/06/2008, -5/+38Part of the reason PC gaming sucks nowadays. It's as if they're asking me to pirate their software.
- chillypacman, on 05/07/2008, -2/+31Use it as an excuse to pirate it, seriously.
After the ***** I went through with bioshock if a game recquries any sort of inane online activation I just wait for the pirates to crack it, it's cheaper AND its voting with my dollars (i.e. I refuse to pay for something that recquires online activation, therefore I download a pirated version which doesn't). - Krovvy, on 05/06/2008, -3/+32Honestly, this just makes me want to steal the games. Why pay for something with spyware that phones home?
I love(d) Bioware, but SecuROM is absolutely horrible, and now it phones home? - AngelBunny, on 05/07/2008, -0/+28all you have to do is download the crack that comes with the online rls from the scene. install the game, install the crack, then you'll be fine using it and it will not phone home.
doing ***** like this only effects the customers. I for one am going to download spore instead of buying it just for this reason. No way do I want a single player game phoning home. This pisses me off. - emezeske, on 05/07/2008, -2/+30What if 5 or 10 years down the road I start feeling nostalgic and want to break out my favorite old game Spore, only to find that they have not maintained the activation server and I don't get to play? Now I'm not saying that justifies stealing, per se, but it sure makes stealing the game much more attractive. If I steal the game (after some group hacks out the validation), I know that I'll be able to play it well into the future (or out in the ocean, etc). If I pay for the game, there's no such guarantee. The bottom line here is that the validation really just hurts the paying customer! In fact, I have cracked some of the games that I've *actually paid for* just to get around their stupid anti-piracy nonsense. It's just plain silly if you ask me.
- ExRe, on 05/06/2008, -2/+29I say it is justified when they treat legitimate consumers like criminals.
- CYR1X, on 05/06/2008, -1/+28What's funny is this is just going to annoy legit purchasers and people who pirate it will get a copy that is cracked and doesn't need online validation.
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